THE NEW JFK SHOW #234 OO7 & JFK (Better Version)

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constellatic Oswald was not involved in any way. It's a matter of fact, you were standing on the first floor watching the parade. Using unprecedented modern day digital computer technology, Larry Rivera presents scientific evidence, which in any court of law would exonerate Lee Oswald of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Rivera meticulously takes the reader through the intricacies of digital overlays, which proved that Lee was standing in the book, The Pository Doorway, while the assassination was taking place, that the backyard photos were cleverly manufactured of frame-kill. In how the 3D program blender can recreate Deely Blaset was on 22 November 1963, so we can finally determine where GFK was really shot that faithful day. As if this were not enough, Rivera reveals what really happened on Elves Street, as recently transcribed interviews with the motorcycle Esquare Officers, who were closest to GFK that day, describe a here-to-for-unknown version of the events that shook our nation to its core, and affected the history of the world forever. Don't miss it. Hi, this is Gary King. You're interested in the book. Go to patreonradiobooks.com. That's patreonradiobooks.com. All right, welcome to the GFK Show, number 234. We have a special guest tonight. David Knight, and he's going to be knighted as our guide and I guess research and videographer. Anyway, David, go ahead and take the show. I understand you. This is a presentation that you recently gave in Illinois. Yeah, sure is. I want to thank everybody for joining us tonight and thank you, Jim, and Gary and Larry, for having me on your show. It's a real honor. Please, they have you here, David. We've heard. I'm sorry, Jim. I don't want to go ahead. Yeah, no, I'm very honored to bring David into the fold here as a contributor to our show, which has been going on for so many years now. It seems like forever. Yeah, yeah. It's not- we can't call it the new GFK Show anymore, Jim. It's like, we've got to change the name a little bit. Anyway, it's a search engine thing. Yeah, you know, last, last time it's the show that's doing the cutting edge. So what we're doing is new. So I think it's fine. We can stay with you. We're just coming from here. Right. I just want to say way to David's presentation by saying that I, I we presented that my blog post and our in our last show. And I presented a lot of stuff that David is, you know, is going to present here tonight. But I want to Dave to do his original presentation, the one that he did at the Olimi conference for the Jeffy historical group. All right. And which I thought was magnificent. And I want to say that David Denton was very astute in bringing the three, the first three presenters back to back on that morning of Friday. Okay, he brought David. He brought case case. He was like he just, you know, that was unbelievable and brought. Yeah, yeah. And and it was new stuff. A lot of the stuff that these guys presented and they all work together. And that that's why you know, I thought, you know, that we should, you know, give each of them, you know, some time, you know, on successive weeks, you know, so that they can come and present it. And bring about their work, you know, so others can, can see it and give them more exposure the way that they are also going to give us exposure. And I think reciprocating like that, you know, is the right thing to do. Go ahead, Dave. Take it away. Okay, here we go. I get asked the question, so who do you think killed JFK? My answer is always the same. It doesn't matter what I think. It only matters what you think. I don't know if it's the road map, but it's up to you to strap in and drive. And I hope after today you'll do just that. Wow, you make history come alive. Thanks, Ted. We're going to make history come alive today. Quick word of thanks before I start my presentation. I do want to thank Casey Quinlan for being the first person open my mind in 1989. The moment he walked across the stage and through my school history book in the trash can, I actually started paying attention. I'm a dad for buying all my first research materials, Brian Edwards, of course, for his help and guidance and someone that I've had been able to research with and bounce ideas and theories off of. And also all the eyewitnesses, researchers and individuals that I've been fortunate enough to interview and speak with over the years. A little bit about my background. I've been a researcher since 1989. I've read over 400 books. I read thousands of documents. I viewed almost every film available. I interviewed hundreds of eyewitnesses and people involved in and around the research community. Return to the scene of the crime over 20 times made 11 documentaries released on DVD and Blu-ray. Been a collaborator of other researchers and authors works, including William Law. Been part of the national conference in Dallas for the last nine years as a videographer and producer of the conference DVD films about 200 of them. I'm also a researcher lecture on writing a book that will soon be published. And our topic today is a new theory on the present on the throat wound of President Kennedy possible weapon ammunition shooter location and why. So word my info come from came from books videos, testimony, internet documents and my direct interviews. So let us begin. We will discuss the weapons that were known for a fact that were in Deely Plaza on 11, 2263. We will discuss the weapons in question that could have been in Deely Plaza on 11, 2263. And we will discuss what I theorize is the type of weapon that could have been the cause of JFK's throat wound. So let's look at the evidence in my theory. We clearly say JFK has been hit in the throat. Governor Collins shows no sign of being shot in the Zapritor frame 230. In the Alcons photograph, I'll give you a little bit of background here. James Williams, Alcons took his two famous photographs on November 22, 1963, while working on assignment for the AP. He was supposed to work in the office that day, but instead went to Deely Plaza with his own camera and captured these two photos known as Alcons six on the left and Alcons seven on the right. And we see a blow up here. JFK's already reacting to being shot in the throat. Let's look at the picture of the hole in the crack in the windshield. We see the hole in the windshield and several eyewitnesses stated the fact that the size of the wind, the size of the hole in the windshield was about the size of a number two pencil. Yeah, but David right there. That's the secret service. That's a fake windshield that was present after it. You're okay. Go ahead. I'm good with that. I say they saw the hole in the windshield and the size of the hole would fit a number two pencil. They also said it was a hole made from the outside going to the inside. Dr. Evaled glanges, but it was very clear it was through and through the windshield of the car from the front to the back. No way there's even even any cracks associated with that bullet hole. It seems like a high velocity bullet that had penetrated from the front to the back in the glass pane. George Whitaker senior says it was a good clean bullet hole through the screen from the front right. This had a clean round hole in the front and fragmentation out the back statements from the mid who killed Kennedy. Alice motorcycle patrolman, Davis Ellis. There was a hole in the left front windshield. It was a hole you could put a pencil through it. You could take a regular standard writing pencil sticker right through there. Dallas motorcycle patrolman HR Freeman. I was right beside it. I could have touched it. It was a bullet hole. You could tell what it was. Secret Service agent Charles Taylor Jr. In addition of particular note was a small hole just left of center in the windshield from what appeared to be bullet fragments were removed. These are from David Lichten's book of best evidence. So I will this is an ear witnesses of spoken and testify what they thought they heard was not gunshots. They thought they heard firecrackers going off. Well, what kind of gunner rifle sounds like a firecracker. I will answer this question with my theory later on. Firecracker. Sound like a firecracker. These 50 names on these on this list count them 50 year witnesses heard what they thought to be a firecracker. Such as Jim Darnell Roy Troulee, Jay Malkins, Tom Dillard, Mary Moore men and so on and so forth. So what the doctors of Parkland remember seeing concerning the wound in the throat of President Kennedy and what did the doctor see of the wound of Bethesda Naval Hospital. At Parkland, they saw a perfect round hole entry wound. But as we saw three inch gash exit wound comparison parkland's on the left and the war commission drawing is on the right. The back wound Parkland doctors didn't see this wound, but during the autopsy the wound in the back was found in pro doctors probe the wound stay they could feel the end of the wound with their fingers and not a very deep wound surely not a through and through wound. The one commission would have us believe that Oswald shot from an elevated six floor shooting at a downward angle shot JFK and the wound turned upright in his body and exited his throat. And how did they explain this theory with the magic bullet theory seven wounds two people. This is the picture of the HSC a JFK with the magic bullet on the left cotton wanting in the middle to the left goat carcass breaking one bone and then the wrist bone of a human cadaver. So we have one bullet to cause all those wounds but came out looking like C E 399. And you know what I call this it's bullshit. Statements from doctors at Parkland hospital doctor Malcolm Perry, Dr. Troulee's cringe on Dr. Robin McClellan. I'm going to show a couple quick video clips of Malcolm Perry and Charles cringe all and then I'll tell you what Robert McClellan told me. At Parkland doctor Malcolm Perry attending surgeon tried desperately to keep the president alive. But the very urgency of that problem prevented him from examining the two wounds. He now explained in his first public statement since the report was published. I know he to wound when I came into the room which was at the right posterior portion of the head. Of course I did not examine it. Again there was no time for curse examinations and if a patent airway could not be secured and the bleeding could not be controlled it really made very little difference. Some things must take precedence and priority and in this instance the airway in the bleeding must be controlled initially. What about this wound that you observed in the front of the presence tonight? What would you tell me about this? Of course it was a very cursory examination. The emergency proceedings at hand necessitated immediate action. There was not time to do more than an extremely light examination. Did it occur to you at the time or did you think was this an entry wound or was this an exit wound? Actually I didn't really give it much thought and I realized that perhaps it had been better had I've done so. I actually applied my energies and those of us there all did to the problem at hand and I didn't really concern myself too much with how it happened or why. For that reason of course I didn't think about cutting through the wound which of course rendered it invalid for as regards further examination and inspection. But it didn't even occur to me. I did what was expedient and what was necessary and I didn't think much about it. The nature of the throat wound can no longer be verified for no records were made and no pictures taken before Dr. Perry cut through it in an attempt to relieve his patient's breathing. The doctors at Parkland were engaged in a desperate struggle to keep the president alive all else was secondary but their task was impossible one of the shots had virtually destroyed the president's head. Even as the doctors worked the president died. At the hospital the scene was turbulent and disorder the press and public were clamoring for news. Dr. Perry was rushed from the emergency room to a news conference where he was badgered into giving a description of the wounds. The neck wound he told the press looked like an entry wound and he pointed to the front of his neck. In the transcript of that news conference there's no doubt that Dr. Perry made it sound as if he had a firm opinion. The second wound the second wound was here in the throat right above the neck time. It was a small opening very small three to five millimeters about the size of your little fingers. In a slow motion study of the film president Kennedy grabs his throat with both hands reacting. The second wound that he had in the front of the doctor was a very small one. The first one that he had in the front of the doctor was a very small one. The first one that he had in the front of the doctor was a very small one. The first one that he had in the front of the doctor was a very small one. The first one that he had in the front of the doctor was a very small one. After he last saw Kennedy's body making it larger to resemble a bullet exit wound. Look this is the size of the tracheosomy tube incision was made and then placed in. This large part this flange stays outside. It was a small wound about the size of the instrument. An inch to an inch and a half, axonum. This wound and described in the Warn Commission was almost three inches wide. Double the size. Is it possible that the doctor working to put this in what may have been already a bullet wound made the incision too large? No, no. Now Perry was an artist with the blade. He was one of the best trained technical surgeons. And here's what Dr. Alma Klellen stated about the throat wound. We've had the pleasure of knowing Dr. Klellen for the last ten years. I've seen him lecturing. I've recorded him in lecture and I spoke with him a great length. He's been very adamant since 1963 about what he witnessed inside trauma room one at Parkland Hospital Dallas, Texas. He states that he saw the back of the president's head blasted out. I asked him back in 2014 about the throat wound and what he told me is that it appeared to be an entry wound when I asked him about the size of the wound. And it brought up what I read about what the other doctors had said about it being between three and five millimeter, asking what he had observed. Dr. McClellen states that he arrived after the tracheotomy had been performed, but that he was recalling what he and his fellow doctors discussed about the size. He told me that he thought it was a little larger than five millimeters, but definitely smaller than 6.5, which was the size of the ammunition used in a 6.5 malachir carcano rifle. I press further how much bigger and he told me just a little bigger than five millimeters, but definitely smaller than six millimeters. David David, I think that is a great find, you know, a great relationship that you had with Dr. McClellen and that you were very fortunate to talk to him, you know, so many times about this, you know, that's one of the things about what I've said many times about talking to actual witnesses and getting the students and people that were there. Absolutely, Larry, absolutely. So remember, we're looking for a round of ammunition is between three to six millimeters and a weapon that could have been used. Well, let's look at the types of ammunition and on this chart, I want to make a note here, the point 17 HMR around at the far left with the X over was not available in 1963. It wasn't produced until 2002. So what we're looking at is the 22 horit or the 22 long rifle. So let's look at the handguns, rifles and shotguns that we see pictured in photographs taken on November 22nd, 63 and D. Lee Plaza. Dallas Police Department, they were carrying Rimington 870 shotguns. We see several photographs here of Dallas PD with shotguns in their hands. Shotgun ammo does not explain the whole in present Kennedy's throat. We see rifles being carried into and out of the TSD, while they carry Rimington model eights in the photographs just shown we see Captain Fritz and detected board carrying their Rimington model eight rifles in and out of the Texas School of Positive building. Well, that rifle was chambered in 0.25, 0.30, 0.32, 0.35 and 300 Savage. All the sizes on the bottom from 6.54 all the way to 9.1 is definitely bigger than the diameter of three to six millimeters. Author researcher Brian Edwards sums up the description of these rifles better than anyone that I know. So thanks to Brian. Captain Fritz and detected boy, both carry Rimington automatic rifles, same model and caliber used by Clyde Barrow. This rifles is a pure weapon if you're hunting boars and bears is ludicrous to carry that into a building. If they would have had to fire it inside, it would go through everyone and hit the brick wall. I never did understand why they would carry rifles in there anyway patrol was already in their searching. So through the size of those bullet 6.54 7.8 8.2 and 9.1 is too big for the throat wound, so let's roll it out. Out the handguns Sergeant Gerald Jerry Hill carried a 38 coat police positive. Captain Wilfer its 38 cold Army special detected Paul Bentley 38 Smith and Wesons model 15 and 10 snubnodes well 38 special is 9.1 millimeters. Dallas police motorcycle officer Bobby Hargis is carrying a 45 ACP which is 11.5 millimeters in this photograph. And let us not forget about all the other handguns carried by all the other officers. So 9.1 11.5 is too big for the throat wounds, so let's rule those out. Sheriff's department Sheriff Bill Dicker Bill Dicker was riding in the lead car in the motorcade carrying a cold Army 1917 Army 45 ACP which has a size 11.5. He's also riding in the lead car so I don't think he turned around and shot at President Kennedy in the throat. So 11.5 is too big for the throat wound, so we're going to rule that one out. How about the secret service service agent George Hickey, AR 15 rifle, cold Army like AR 15 model 01 or 601 with a 20 round magazine is a 0.22 rimmington. It is 5.7 millimeters. It fits the throat wound, but the AR 15 wasn't raised up until after the throat shot and the car gun and agent was behind JFK the whole time the motorcade. So I'm going to rule that one out too. I keep some information here for you guys that several researchers have either not known or did not fully research is the 223 Remington round that's been spoken and written about was not even produced until 1964. Nobody had it. So possibly the round that would have been loaded in the AR 15 and secret service agent George Hickey had in this weapon that day was a 222 Remington. But just to be thorough, I've included the blistics of both cartridges of ammo here in this presentation on the left you've got the 222 in the center of the 223 and the right is a 222 Remington Magnum. All these bullets are still 5.7 millimeters, but like I say, he was behind Kennedy. How about Lee Harvey Oswald backyard photograph holding the Malachar Carcano with the weapon of the revolver on his hip. And here's a client's western store ad showing the 6.5 on Titan Carbine. Here we see the Alcar Carcano on display. Well, that one there is 6.80 millimeters. We see here an exhibit 141 FBI exhibit C8. 6.80 is too big for the throat one. So we're going to rule that one out too. Oswald's revolver was a 38 caliber Smith and Western 9.1 millimeters. 9.1 is too big for the throat one plus Oswald had to pick it up from his boarding house after he left the TSPD. So we're going to rule that one out. See a pattern catching on here. We're rolling out a lot of guns. Back Ruby November 24, 1963 Ruby shoots Oswald. Jack Ruby's revolver 38 caliber Colt Cobre 9.1 millimeters. 9.1 is too big for the throat wound and newly released documents show that Ruby was in fact and Dele Plaza at the corner of the post-oanics building across the TSPD during the assassination according to a former Bob Banderseis 9.1 is too big. So we're going to rule it out. Okay, now that we've got that all cleared up, let's move on. Let us discuss other weapons that we have reports of either being around Dele Plaza or reported to be seen around or that has been written about in the research documents in the community. Reported to different rifles found on the sixth floor of the TSPD time between these announcements that follow is 55 minutes. The reported rifle goes from a 3030 to a British 303 by Tom Whale and NBC affiliate. A short time later, Dallas Sheriff's Office here is took a young man into custody. It's believed that they also took a rifle at the same time described as a 3030 rifle which was supposedly found in the scene. Although this has not been confirmed. It's a very important term for station WBAP TV and Fort Worth and newsman Tom Whale. Here's an additional report on what you heard NBC correspondent Bob Atherney, Abernathy described a few minutes ago the building in which the sniper had hidden. It's the Texas School depository at the intersection of Elm and Houston Street in Dallas. Dallas Prime Laboratory Lieutenant JC Day went to the building a short time after the shooting took place. And he walked out with a British 303 rifle. The rifle has a telescopic sight. Now the rifle was found on the sixth floor of the building near a corner window. Also, police searching that area found three empty, 303 cartridge cases. Also scraps of chicken as if a person could have been there for some time. There were boxes of books, textbooks and other school materials stacked up all around. On three sides of the sniper's nest, as if he had been there for some time. There was a gun rest made of paper is near the open window that commanded the site from which the sniper, by which the presidential motorcane passed when the president and governor Conley was shot. As we said before, the sniper's nest has been found and police have recovered a British 303 rifle with a telescopic sight. This is Tom Wailen reporting from Texas for NBC from WBAP TV. These are images of a 3030 rifle. These are not the exact weapons that were there as reported on because we don't have pictures of a 3030 round rifle found at the particular type of weapon was never entered in any evidence. We see the 3030 rifle. Well, guess what? That bullet is 7.8 millimeters. 7.8, too big for the throat wounds. We're going to rule that one out too. These are images of a British 303 rifle. Again, these are not the exact weapons that were there as reported on because we don't have pictures of a 303 found. And this particular type of weapon was never entered into any evidence. Guess what? The 303 ammunition? 7.92. 7.92 is too big for the throat wounds. We're going to rule it out. Extra tidbit info. Here you go, Larry. The U.S. Lee Frazier owned a 303 British infield rifle after reports of the 303 on TV, Dallas Police Department looking for Mr. Frazier. The rifle was not the only reason he was wanted for questioning also is connection to leave Harvey Oswald and he too worked at the T.S. B.D. He was the first Pat Seen line. Correct. Correct. Supplementary offensive report. This is dated 1125 63 by Rose and Stovall. And it says we received information from Mrs. Bill Randall that her brother, Buw Wesley Frazier 19 at the time, same address took Lee Harvey Oswald to work on the more another murder. And that she saw Oswald put a long package in the back seat of her brothers, 1954 black Chevrolet four door. By the way, that's Lenny May Randall. They put Mr. Bill Randall the height her name but go ahead. Okay. They basically talk about in here that they see we went. They go looking for Frazier and they find him at a hospital seeing his father in law while they take. It says Frazier sister Mrs. Randall came to the location. We brought Frazier and Mrs. Randall to the homicide office. Affidavit was taken from Mrs. Randall. Frazier was interrogated and run on the paragraph and negative results. Affidavit was then taken from Frazier. Frazier and sister were the return to Irving on 1122 63. Now Larry tell me here we were just talking about this and tell us about the report that they tried to have Frazier sign on. I've heard this story too, but tell it to everybody's listening. Well, well, first of all, the dimension of David Williams is stepfather, you know, is just bizarre because Frazier left Huntsville. Texas to get away from his stepfather, okay, because he used to beat him up. He used to beat the crap out of him when he used to get drunk. That's why he ends up at Lenny May's house, you know, in Irving, okay, and not only that Frazier disappears for about five and a half hours that day. But you know, going back to your question here on the night of November 22nd, Captain Fritz, well Fritz tried to make a Westie Frazier sign a confession that he had been involved in some way in the. Jeff gets a signation at that time and this only came out in 2013 when Frazier gave an interview to the six four museum Stephen Fagan is the one who had had that. Did that interview and it's it's very, very surprising where Frazier turned that the entire interview around and started to tell the truth. He started to say, you know, how how nice Lee was, you know, with kids, you know, he started to create a persona of Lee that was totally counter, you know, you know, contrary to what it would have been presented, you know, about Lee Harvey Oswald. Not only that, he said that that Lee was not was not was not to blame for the assassination, you know, and so many things that he said that they let Stephen Fagan could not avoid. Alright, so and and one of the things that he said that in that interview was this incident that happened with Captain Fritz, you know, where Fritz, you know, got so mad and red face, you know, when he tried to hit him and everything and then he stormed out of the room and and Frazier obviously did not sign, you know, that confession so that's the story. You know, so you're so weird, the whole thing is so weird. Yeah, to me, it seems like they were trying to make sure they had a backup plan in case they couldn't frame Oswald, they were going to frame you less than Frazier. And another and another tidbit I wanted to mention, you know, that supposed polygraph, you know, that he took that night is never surfaced okay. Right disappeared. Okay. Alright, so what? Okay, so two guns in the TSPD prior to November 22nd, 1963 and Roy Trouli's later testimony, the war commission seven age three, 81 to 382. Mr. Ball asked, do you recall anytime you saw any guns in the TSPD building, Mr. Truly, yes, I did November 20th, 1963. Mr. Trouli says they belong to Mr. Warren Caster, a rifle to go deer hunting with and a 22 rifle. Let's talk about the mysterious 38 in the brown paper bag real quick. There was a 38 snub nose revolver found in a brown paper lunch sack. The revolver serial number was eight nine three two six five. There's been reports of it being found in front of the the Texas School of Depository Building, the grassy, no and the corner of Ross and the Mar street. Reports of a blonde haired woman dropping it found by Willie flat and turned into Dallas robbery homicide office by DPD patrolman J. Rads. The FBI started investigation 11 30 63. Well, where did the investigation lead to? Where's the revolver now? It's clouded in mystery. We don't have a definitive answer on this. We see here in these Google images of of Google maps. The Texas School of Depository Building is only a six minute walking distance to North Lamar street and Ross Avenue where the where the gun officially wound up that was turned into rats. Let's let's talk about the 7.65 German Mauser that was reported that they they found that as well. It's 7.94 millimeters. And Jim Garrison's on trail the assassinations page 113 to 115. Officer Seymour Whiteman, part of the Dallas police search team later described the discovery of the rifle on the afternoon of November 22nd. He stated it had been so well hidden under boxes of books that the officer stumbled over many times before they found it. I don't know if they were keystone cops or what, but officer Whiteman who had an engineering degree also operated as foreign goods store was recognized as an authority on weapons. Consequently, Dallas homicide chief Will Fritz, who was on the scene, asking the make of the rifle. Whiteman identified it as 7.65 Mauser, a highly accurate German made weapon, definitely more accurate than the than the carcano. Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig was also there later recalled the ward Mauser inscribed in the middle of the gun. Well, you're not going to find Mauser on a on the on the carcano rifle. Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone executed sworn affidavit, which he described the rifle as a Mauser as late as midnight November 22nd. Dallas District turning Henry Wade himself told the media that the weapon found was a Mauser. You know, something, David, I can't help but notice that the first three weapons were from three different European countries. Correct. You talked about England, Germany, OK, British, Italy, you know, so you know what's going on here. So, you know, other than the 30 30, you know, well, they didn't have an American made rifle on scene. So I guess they were, they were pushing that out towards our, our allies or, you know, out in the, the area. Very interesting. So 7.94 is too big for the throat once we're going to rule that one out. James files here. James files. He claims. His real name is James Sutton 21 years old to time on 1122. He was a shooter on the grassy, no, bit the bullet case and set it on the fence. He said that was his trademark. And he says he fired the fatal round into JFK's head. He worked with Charles Nickelettian, Johnny Rosselli, met up with Lee Harvey Oswald and spent time with him in Dallas prior to the assassination. There's more to his story and claims that I'll not go into here. But if you wish, you can look up on the internet and judge for yourself. He claims his, his choice of weapon was the remittance XP 100. Now this is a 221 remittance fireball and it is 5.7. Well, let's talk about that 5.7. It fits the throat wound, but files himself said he only shot Kennedy in the head. Not the throat. He fired one round, hit him in the head. So we're going to rule it out. And finally, you've come to my theory of what type of weapon could have been used. Art imitating life. Let's see if Hollywood and one of its timeless films could point to a weapon that could have been used. Come on, James Bond from Russia with Love, Ian Fleming's film. Where does he get those wonderful toys? Ask the equipment officer to come in please. Cube branches put together a smart looking piece of luggage for this. For issuing this to all double open personnel. An ordinary black leather case with 20 rounds of ammunition here and here. Now if you take the top off you'll find the ammunition inside. And the side here, flat throwing knife. Press that button there and now it should come. Inside the case you will find an AR-7 folding sniper's rifle, 0.25 caliber, with an infrared telescopic sight. Excellent stuff here David. Thank you Larry. From Russia with Love was released October 10th and 11th in 1963 in London and United Kingdom. It was released in the United States until April 8th 1964. So what would a bed like if the shooter that used this or could have used this weapon was sending there in the theater gone holy shit. That looks familiar. Not without arm you won't. You'd better leave it to me. I'm already too much in your debt. How can it find being debt? Infrared lens. Do you notice anything? Not yet. She has a lovely mouth. That Anita. Yes. I see what you mean. Arm or no arm. I have to pull that trigger. You think you can. You got one short remember. It'll have to do. Quick. He's coming. So reason for the use in the movie and assassination. Well, let's talk about the rifle. I think was used the air five and AR seven. The arm of light AR five was produced and put into use in 1956 by the United States Air Force. They actually had what was known as an arm. Alive and an arm. Alive. The air five is the one that was actually adopted in. It's released for civilian use in 1959. It weighed 2.5 pounds. The length of the stock was 28 inches barrel length 14. You got a you've got a gun length of 42 inches. And here is the bolt action of the receiver. And we see the clip assembled and they actually used to call this the ronson clip or the zip or magazine clip because the five round capacity magazine was about just about the size of a ronson zip. The 22 Hornet round, which is what was chambered for the air five is 2.3 times the most velocity and seven times the energy of the common 22 long rifle. This is a supersonic bullet. It's a it's got a ballistic tip like a polymer tip to it. And I've got one here in my hands. You can actually remove the tip of the bullet. And it goes down about about three eighths of an inch. If you wanted to tip the bullet say with mercury or a poison, you could easily do it by removing it and then just put in a wax seal back on the bullets. Jim, you were asking about this the other night. Precisely about the tip there. Yeah. Yeah. And as far as size comparison goes, this is your 22 long rifle. Okay. This is your 22 Hornet round. There's only approximately about maybe three quarters of an inch longer. But you've got 2.3 times most of the velocity and seven times the energy of this little guy right here. We see size comparison here. It was designed in the 1920s, produced 1930 to present. You can still get the 22 Hornet round. There's other rifles out there besides the AR five that will fire the same edition. If you want to buy an AR five day, you got to find a gun broker that can locate one and they're ranging about between 2500 and $3,000 for that rifle. As manufactured by Winchester and used by the United States Air Force in World War II. Specifications 5.7 millimeters 35 grain rail, which is your V max round like this is 3,060 feet per second 728 foot pounds more than enough to go through the windshield and cause the wound in the throat of President Kennedy. So 5.7 millimeter fits the throat wound. So let's rule it in. Now we're going to see the Armalite AR seven, which is the standard 22 round. It was produced and used in 1959 to present. It weighs 2.49 pounds barrel length 14 inches total length. It's actually 35. I made a mistake. I'm saying it's 28. Original it was 5 round capacity. Now you can put eight rounds in this gun. We see the 22 long rifle size here. That's also 5.7. But if you look at velocity, it's only 1200 feet per second and 104 foot pounds. So I don't think it was the AR seven rifle. I believe it was the AR five that was actually used 5.7 millimeter for the AR seven fits the throat wound. So we're going to rule that in as well. Henry survival now makes the rifle. It's made from the design of the Armalite AR seven and the AR five weight is 3.5 pounds. I measured it and the total length of it is actually 35 inches. This is completely broken down. We're going to put that together. Pull off your buttstock. Here's your magazine. This is your action. Your action goes down and slides in. There's a set screw right here that puts this together. Looks like a toy. Yeah, exactly. It's a game's bond toy. Yeah, really. And then here's your barrel. It just slides down and then you've got a spin collar. So the total length of the rifle is 35 inches. It's easily put together. You can take it apart. I'm going to put it on the stage. Yeah. And I had it in my sport coat and I took it out and put it out and put it down by the podium. And then I gave everybody a little disclaimer. I was going to show it. And I asked him. I said, do you I walk out in the middle? I said, do you see anything? You know, weird that I'm I have any bulges on me. And I said, you see a rifle anywhere on my person. And of course, nobody could see it. And then I said, you know, I'm going to put it together. And those are the pictures that Larry showed last week and also on his blog. And when people saw go together, they were just completely blown away on how easily it was to conceal. Yeah, they were going to put anything under the armpit, like Lee was supposed to do. Now, that would have been the rifle, right? Yeah, this would have been so much easier deal. And here's a picture of when I Henry survival rifle today, you can get these at any place. Bass Pro Academy sports. Damn, they're anywhere. You can order them online. They're 249 99 for this particular rifle. Two magazines, the barrel and the action and the stock all come together. And here's a good one for you. If you drop it while you're hiking, the damn thing floats. Yeah. Now, we were talking about a scope on the rifle. This here is a picture of the scope mounted on top the rifle. You can order the adapter online for 2499 that has the threads on it so you can put an actual suppressor on it. They are five, they are seven, both could have been used. They are five as a rifle that I leaned towards because the 22 Hornet is a more powerful round. Okay, so why? Well, it has very little recoil. It's easy to conceal rifle. It's extremely accurate to 100 meters. For such a small caliber, it can cause a lot of damage. And guess what? It's quiet. It sounds like a firecracker. Now that you mentioned 100 meters, I recall that Brian did that in his presentation. He was talking about the periphery, you know, based on conference, you know, and how that precise measure that 100 meters came into play from the back, from the front, the side and everything, which would have been, you know, the ideal distance for an ambush for a sniper. Oh, absolutely, absolutely Larry. What do we estimate the distance from inside the triple underpass to the 90, about 90 yards, 90 meters, something like that. Yeah, well within the range on Larry's aspect to putting the shooter in the cubby hole, or we're all show you where I've got my shooter location, which is right above Larry's. They're well within that 100 meter range. Yes, yes. This sound here is actually what a firecracker sounds like. We've all heard him before. And this is a sound of an AR five, they are seven round. The sound comparison between firecracker and AR seven, it's point zero seven decibels difference. Wow. I put it on a spectrograph on the audio from a firecracker to the AR seven round. And you've got point zero seven less than a tenth of a decibel. Yeah, you can't tell the difference. You can't tell the difference. I mean, this by shooting this rifle, you know, this this coincides with what people heard saying they heard of firecracker. It does not sound like a firecracker, the six point five round. So now let's look at the possible shooting locations and the trajectories for just a moment. A first off, I think it was a frontal shot. Obviously, that's what everybody is staying the fact that they they saw in the throat wound, the doctors at Parkland. The eyewitness to say that they saw a hole in the windshield from the front. This is an aerial photo and the red rectangle represents where the presidential limo was at the time of the shot to present Kennedy's throat. If JFK was setting in his car, this is the viewpoint of what he would have had. A South Null shooter. Sherry Feister, the author of Enemy of the Truth, stated that she thought the head wound came from the front South Null location. And she puts a throat shot trajectory of 15 degrees in the same location that I just showed what JFK would have seen at the at his view and Dealy Plaza on Eln Street. And it came from the South grassy. No, this one explained the hole in the windshield and the shot to JFK's throat. But I don't think the throat wound came from the South Null. Snipers viewpoint from the South Null. We see here in these two in these three pictures actually. So why do I put a shooter? Look at the bridge. This is the Tom Dillard photograph. And every time that we actually see the photograph in print, we usually see. I hope you can see my mouse pointer here, but the middle tail light up is usually cropped out of a lot of the photographs that we saw printed at that time. Well, when you look at the bridge and I don't know if you guys can see it yet, but let's take a look at the next photograph. This photograph was cleaned up just a little bit. Other than just taking the grain out of it. Now what do you see? How about now? Somebody's crouching there. I have to go shooting position or what I like to call I bend down a time I shoot position. Let's take a look from the shooters perspective. These were taken just last year. If you're standing in that exact location and you're standing straight up in the air, straight up and down and you're looking and just so happens there was a card in the right location when I took the photograph. Just about just about the location a little bit farther back there. And if you're crouch down between the two concrete pillars, this is your viewpoint. And just for giggles, I went ahead and put a scope on it. If the if they were using a scope, this would be a perfect viewpoint. It lines up perfectly went the windshield to go right into JFK's throat. And here's an extra tidbit of information for you to ponder. I know who had a government issued a or five issue to him and did not return it when his service ended this blue Larry away and I Jim, I yours and Gary's reaction to this was was priceless last week. General personal may. And in this photograph, we actually see that this a or five belong to general personal may it's even got his signature on it in his handwriting. And that little name plate is actually attached to the or five rifle. No, we see here and more up close. Well, you know what appears to have been an Air Force expert by the name of Jack Lawrence who fired this round. So since he was Air Force that remain would have given him his gun, he would have wanted to do it. He aided JFK. And he's location inside the triple underpass superior to up on the on the top because it would have been just too conspicuous inside there. You got the perfect place to put it in this to me real road man. Yeah, just a new public. That's where the welcome that's like the weapon now. I think you haven't quite finished David. So I want you to feel like I got a couple of comments. Well, when when me and Larry sit down at Olding and we were discussing this and he showed me what he had in chapter 17 in the book, which you know completely blew me away. I'm saying they're going, this is great. This, you know, we're working in the same area. Right. And what I what I was talking about is that well, what if we had a person, what if the shooter was down in the cubby hole. I said, you've got something definitely, you know, conspicuous there in the dealer photo. And I really like Larry's work with putting the shooter in the cubby hole. I said, so what if they were working together, perhaps. So if you got an Air Force shooter and he's concerned about the chain to command using the weapon given to him by the chief of staff of the Air Force is going to, you know, reassure him that what he's doing is what he ought to be doing in relation with responsibility is as a member of the US military. The also the position on top the triple overpass is also the Doug Weldon position gym that you publish in murder and nearly possible. Well, I think you nailed the location Gary and I think that David is almost certainly nailed the weapon. In fact, I think it fits very nicely. I would observe. Jack Jim Lewis has been going through the south and firing high velocity rounds to junk cars. And he finds it makes the right. The small white spiral nebula with a dark hole at the center. And at the beginning, of course, you show the crack windshield, which was a substitute by the secret service. The first thing that was taken back before and replaced Doug Weldon determined from discussion with the official letter replacing that that through and through hole in it. That was a third windshield gets forward, put a brand new one on, but the secret service at a whole bunch. Well, I was going to comment on that. First of all, I think that the discovery here, the presentation by David, especially revealing the high velocity. Stop stop, stop share David, stop share. Okay. The high velocity capabilities of this type of weapon. Okay. And the fact that this lower. Completely share stop share David be good. I want to get us all for here. Do I hit the new share or do I hit. Stop. Stop. Stop. Right. The fact that this is a small caliber bullet that is not really intended to go through penetrating go through an object more sold into tumble inside, you know, a target. Okay. I think that's the first to win. You had to take a lot out of it. Of course, yeah, but still it is high enough of velocity and powerful enough to go through that and do the damage that I think David might want to comment on that. Yeah, I tell you what I've talked to several ammunition manufacturers. I've talked to several people in law enforcement. The consensus is the number one ammunition you do not want to get shot with is a 22 round, whether it's a 22 long rifle or a 22 hornet round. And the reason for that is is because one of 22 rifle round, whether it's the hornet or the long rifle or even a 22 magnum. Anything that's 22, the speed at that bolt is moving when it enters the body. 99% of the time what it does is it enters the body. It starts a ricochet effect and starts hitting, you know, tendons, bones, soft tissue. A lot of people that get shot with a 22, you know, if they're out scroll hunting or running with rabbits and somebody ends up shooting with a 22. I talked to nurses and also doctors as well. I, in fact, I even asked my colon about this. I said, if you got shot with a 22, I said, well, that bullet leave your body goes, well, you'll actually have to go in and dig to get it out. Well, I got to piece this together. I said, well, why do we have such a wide gash in the throat wound instead of them, you know, a perfectly round hole that has been enlarged to put the trick to them. They went in and tore that gash in his throat to dig that damn bullet out is what I think. And I think that coincides with the 22 round bouncing around in there. They didn't just reach in with a pair of four ships and pull out the round what they just had to go down there and fish for to find out where it went to. Now, Bob Lievingston, who was a world authority on the human brain and also next from one ballistics having supervised an emergency medical hospital, friendship, Okinawans and Japanese prisoners of war during the Battle of Okinawa told me he believed the bullet had entered the throat and in fragmented and a part had gone up and ruptured this top membrane that covers a cerebellum called the tentorum. And another had gone down into the long and we know we have the bruises and it's the right long as I recall that is bruised from the efforts to retract the portion of the bullet there. And I'm just wondering if there's anything in your research that would suggest that account by this guy would be consistent with the weapon of the bullet you're talking about. Well, I tell you what, I feel that's definitely consistent because when the 22 round goes in, you know, it is known to fragment and you know, a solid, a solid piece, you know, I'm not saying the 22 warrants a magic bullet by any means, I don't think it went in and came out in a pristine condition. I think between going through the windshield, going into his throat, I feel that it definitely could have fragmented and that could explain why they went in and pulled pieces out. The enlarged throat wound appears to have originated as follows. The livingston who actually was assigned to be director for two of the national institutes of health, located across the stroke from Bethesda, Naval Hospital, actually had heard the description of the wound on radio of a small clean puncture wound, he knew it was a wound of entry. So he called over and was put into contact with James Hume and he taught Hume Saddy wasn't listening to radio because he didn't want to be affected by any reports. But Bob explained how that this has been a wound of entry and therefore the neck had to be carefully dissected they were cut off by the FBI. He thought was very odd. Hume's with that evening later asked him what it would have looked like if it had been a wound of accident instead of a wound of entry and Bob described it. Are you believe that Hume's use Bob's description to reconstruct the wound to try to make it look like a wound of exit? That Bob's analysis in which I believe is confirmed by your own observations is the bullet entered cleanly and then fragmented and part went up to rupture the tentarium because it explained to me that even the near simultaneous of two shots say from the back of the head and from the side and now it may have been two from the left and the right. The temple is actually that occurred because David Mantig is now inclined to believe there was this third shot that they had which was fired from this out. Where both Rick Russo and Ted Tato have photographs of that no shooter separate photographs. So I've now seen two with the rival. I believe that this is now consistent and puts all the pieces together that that it's inside the triple underpass from which the fire the shot was fired. And that you therefore had two sources of the sound of a firecracker one from the weapon itself which is you said makes the sound of a firecracker. And the others the bullet passing the windshield which makes its own sound of a firecracker. I think all this hangs together terribly well and of course the sound proximity would have been very close. So I mean this is a high velocity route or do I blew you know the firecracker so I would have been almost you know better than the neck out. I mean it would have been almost over laughing. Right absolutely Jim and I tell you what I gave this presentation in Dallas last year and Dr. David Mantig was actually sitting in the audience. And he immediately just started you know he had he had a ton of questions for me and we sit down and talked about and he said. I've never seen that rifle before and he said but the way that your presentation puts it out there he said you I think you've got something here. And Ed Tato himself I saw Ed down there and only and you know he was Ed was completely blown away too and I'm sitting there going well I think I might finally have something here. What I like to is that this would be Curtis LeMaine's own weapon is he which would have given the this guy was an enlisted man he just happened to be the best shot in the Air Force. Contents that what he was doing was consistent with his obligation to the chain of command I mean he got to work for the automobile dealership that provided all these different makes and models for the motorcade which was completely anomalous or all uniformly black Cadillac typically. So the first would know wherever you would was the only what to work a couple days before after the shooting he returned to the dealership all money because he made his escape through the sewer system nauseated when in an vomiting over what he got so I mean I think this all hangs together and then of course he would disappear. But I also like it you know in relation with Jim Lewis and what the only fault I would give of your presentation is in the beginning it's disconcerting you have the legitimate all chance I've got many places where I compare the all chance where you can see a close up. That it's a small white spiral nebula with the dark hole in the center to get his left ear would be if his left ear would visible juxtapose with the secret service that's already an assassination time it's clearly not the same I have much more about it actually in in the great subruder film folks. I had because I have Jim Lewis's you know photograph of the vehicles he fired through to see if he could hit a dummy in the back seat but David this is excellent work excellent work. I think that I think one of the main strengths of David's presentation is the way that he has eliminated all the possibilities you know of the rifle in the body. Well it was the following flaw he talked about the fireball and you said you eliminated because smile said he only fired it from there but it could have been a second fireball fired from another location. So I'm talking about logic. The others based on the size of the wound were of course more effective but I thought it was excellent the way you went through the multiple weapons and compared the size of the rounds and all that David that was excellent. That would be right up your alley you know using logic you know to narrow down. This is a whole argument by elimination you know you have all the alternatives a or b or c or d and not a and not b and not c and not d and so I'll probably start. It had a very nice logical structure. But you're not to be using the crack windshield which is a fake by the secret service without explaining that this was a substitute not by the secret service you did say inside the witnesses reported it wasn't cracked it was a clear clean bullet hole. But you should have had a close up of the from the all chance because you can actually see it I'd blown it up and I've used it. There are pictures of the limo at at Parkland it show what you're talking about Jim and also the recordings of the of the Jeff K. Horseman officer Freeman and officers Davis Ellis you know where they clearly said it was a whole event. I know I just say David's presentation when he shows the secret service limousine which is a fake and isn't identifying it concurrently as a fake that is disconcerting to those who know the difference. This is a form of the sequence of presentation and a note as it were about what you're doing. I think it was excellent David. I see a lot of recitation this was certainly one of the better I think from of Jeff K. Very static you know very pleased to see their persons of your degree of confidence pursuing these issues this is to me a very positive. I hope we can get in the truth of the community no doubt and you've been our honorary guy tonight so we're going to go ahead and call it if anybody has anything you have to say well done. Well you're a good job David and we hope to have you on again real soon this was J. K number two 34 just another day on JFK another day at the office. Thank you guys so much for having me I really appreciate it.