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Juneteenth: The Real Story

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Juneteenth: The Real Story
A conversation featuring Jeff Rense and Frank Joseph
Frank Joseph - Nietzsche, Lincoln, Grant &
The Huge Lies About US Slavery and the Civil War

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National Independence Day Act was passed in the law by this man, Joe Biden. It's a federal holiday in 2021. It's been a federal holiday ever since. Mao is June 15th. It's completely artificial. It is not just an artificial construct. It is a racist lie. It is based on a total complete falsehood, a series of falsehoods, has absolutely no historical foundation whatsoever and is openly racist. We are seeing the complete remake of everything in America. Literally just a destruction, a dismantling of everything, traditional, absolutely everything. June 15th, which is the National Independence Day now, is emblazoned in bright red on my calendar. But when I go to the next month to July 4th, that day is not emblazoned. It's just a regular black number. Once a month, we spend time with a number of extraordinary people, none more so than Frank Joseph, the author, researcher who has lately, well, what we've been doing, we'll see if we're going to do it again. I'm not sure what we're going to do tonight, but we've been looking back in history at the date in history or even the week in history where we are today. June 19th already. Wow. Frank, are you there? Yes, I am. Welcome back. I didn't get any emails from you if you sent them. They were intercepted. Oh my gosh. Today is not the 19th. Tomorrow is the 19th. And that's 18th. Yeah, let's talk about the 18th. First of all, how are you and what are you seeing where you are in terms of the state of what's left of this otherwise organized society? You notice any ragged edges? What are you seeing? I'm just curious. Well, what I'm seeing and I'm sure it's crystal clear to the vast majority of our listeners. And certainly to yourself who's been involved in the same was wrong if our country for so long. We're seeing the complete remake of everything in America. We're seeing a period we're going through which is unofficial, literally just a destruction, a dismantling of everything traditional, absolutely everything that has gone into building what this country was. We're going we're being blown down to a zero point. And then we're going to be remade in the image of something which is completely at odds with what we've known in the past. It's a complete extreme makeover of our civilization. And that's that is the reality that we're facing. And I don't suggest any answers to this. I don't even know a definite answer, but I know that telling the truth about it and fighting it to the best of our abilities in our own ways is the only thing we can do. The only thing left to us. What we're going through has been described long ago by a very great philosopher, one of the greatest. He was such a great philosopher. He lost his mind. He had too much thought. That's Friedrich Nietzsche. But Friedrich Nietzsche talked about the transvaluation of all values. He also talked about as the devaluation of all values. And he saw that coming way back in the middle of the 19th century. He was really a John the Baptist. He was really a man crying in the wilderness on those days. But now it's all crystal clear. And if these things are obvious to us now, it's not because for a want to hide them. It's because the people that are the cycle paths that are controlling things, they don't care anymore. They don't care whether they're exposed or not, because they're just going ahead and doing what they're doing anyway. I was always astounded that somebody like Joe Biden could be president of the United States. How about is this the best that the Democrat party can come up with? Is this all you can find as a front? But they don't care now. In the past, the politicians were slick. They were well spoken. They looked like they meant something. They were all actors. Of course, this man can't even put on a good act. No, they don't care. The laughing at us, Frank. They're just laughing at us. They don't care anymore. But masters do not care. This is part of the minimalization and the deconstruction of all of our assumed traditions, all of our assumed foundations. So now this is being made over into this. It is an enormous disgrace. The disgrace is not that these people are doing this because they're just mouth functioning cycle paths. Anyway, the disgrace is that no one is talking about it, that no one is opposing it. That's where the disgrace really lies. And it's based on an official narrative. And the official narrative is that the white people of the South enslaved the black people until Abraham Lincoln became the moral conscious of America. And he waged a war of liberation of emancipation and that all of the followers, his followers in the Union Army, went to free this enslaved people, enslaved Americans in the South. That is the narrative that this is based upon. And it celebrates the emancipation proclamation. The emancipation proclamation was first proposed by Lincoln in 1861 during the war. And it was finally completely put when it a full effect on June 19th and 1865 in Texas. That's when the full emancipation proclamation was completely brought into existence. That narrative goes back long before the Civil War with something that is not taught in schools. And by the way, everything I'm saying tonight is based on two books. And these two books are the best books on the Civil War I have ever read. And the reason why they're the best is they are extraordinarily researched and they bring out things and document things that you will find no place else. And these two books are Lincoln's War by Laughlin Seabrook. The amount of detail in this book is completely revises our views of the Civil War and everything has happened since then. The other book is called The Real Lincoln by an author that's been on your show. It's a terrific author, more than a terrific author. This man is a fantastic historian, Thomas J. D. Lorenzo. His book is extraordinarily readable. Both the books are reasonable. But these two books, Lincoln's War and The Real Lincoln, if you read these two books, you hardly need any more about this. This really is all. Oh, you can't imagine history. Without those two books, you really can't. You cannot imagine history. I don't see how you really can because not only do these books do a fantastic job of bringing out facts and ideas that have not been showing the place else. They present them in such a relative way, a relevant way. We can see how these same forces in history that were incubating over a hundred years ago are percolating in our time. I think that's a real service to the reader to see the continuity of history, of our history, and to see that the basis for all these problems are going through today come from a very specific place. It's primarily on these two that I based on. One of the things that I can book the change in my whole life in terms of understanding what really is going on here. You see the fraud, you see it all, where you see right through it. It's all there. The truth of that man is one of the best hidden secrets in American history. You put your finger on it. I think Thomas DeLorenzo sees right through all of the fraud and he brings it out. Even so, I think it's good for readers to still maintain their own point of view. Lincoln is one of the most complicated figures in all history. There are times when I can't stand reading about him and other times I see that he did things that he even knew were wrong but felt he had to do. He was a conflicted man that the times brought about in him some very difficult decisions. He was a human being. He made some mistakes, bad mistakes, but he also did some good things. I think with all the judgment on him and I would hope that even our listeners will withhold any kind of a judgment on him yet. I wish we were talking about Jefferson Davis instead of Lincoln. Well, Jefferson Davis was a great man also to be sure. That was an interesting period. He produced many great Americans, some evil ones too, but it was an extraordinary period. The times themselves were so difficult they brought out the very best and the very worst in people. They think of those monsters. Monster. Absolute monsters. Then you have others like Stonewall Jackson who was very compassionate for his own troops and for the troops that he captured. It's a true gentleman, a true southern gentleman. He executed war only to get it over with as quickly as possible. He was quite a saintly man in that regard. But what's brought out in Lincoln's war, something I had never heard of before, never come across before. And most of our listeners are familiar with the story of Anthony Johnson. Well, who's that? Anthony Johnson was this black man from Angola way back in the early 1600s. And he was a slave, a black slave, and he layered gravity. Get ready for this, this is good. And we're talking about the 1620s now. That's a long time ago. That's a really, really early American history. He became a servant, an indentured servant. Well, an indentured servant is the same thing as a slave. Except that as an indentured servant, you can work to free yourself over time. He worked very hard and he bought his way out. And what was the first thing he did after he worked his way out of becoming an indentured servant, before the slave? He became a slave owner. There's this black man who came to slavery. Not only did he become a slave owner, he became the wealthiest slave owner in South Carolina. And his slaves were of his fellow black people and of white people as well. It was legal. His son, John, for example, had 11 white slaves. Now, when Johnson became an influential man financially because of slavery, he was helped to push through the legislation in the Charleston, South Carolina diet. It was called, at that time, was a state congress to make slavery not only maintain its legality, but also lower some of the tariffs so that he could have an even greater profit from the slavery of his own people and others. He went to Florida, he now, to become the first legal slave owner in the colonies. He was the first legal slave owner. And he was the first one and he was huge. He had no one knows exactly how many he had, many hundreds of many hundreds of them. And South Carolina became the hub of slavery in the United States. 75% of the city's Charleston's free blacks, 75% owned slaves north and south, 25% of all free blacks owned slaves, 25% of free blacks. In other words, the word themselves slaves, but after they had been freed for one reason or other or had bought out their way from being indentured servants, 25% of corner of them became slave owners. That means one, well look at this, you put it in this perspective. One in every 300,000 whites in the United States owned slaves. But one, and this is just before the Civil War, this is right up to 1861. One, let's get this right, one in every 300,000 whites, I'm going to clear, one in 300,000 whites owned slaves before the war. And in contrast to that, one out of every four blacks owned slaves, 25% of the southerners, 5% of the southerners were slave owners, 5% that amounts to 1% of the national population. You're going to wage a war of extermination on the people because 1% of the national population are slave owners, that's insane. But that's the truth. Now you can trust that number of slave owners in the United States and the, between the United States Army and the Confederate Army. There were more slave owners in the United States Army than there were in the Confederates Army. Now the irony of all this is that these white men were fighting and dying over this non-issue of slavery to end slavery and they did end slavery. The emancipation proclamation was passed. And how ironic the irony of this is because we have not had slavery in the United States since 1865. And yet slavery is big business. If huge is on an industrial scale, where in Africa to this day? No one talks about that. No one mentions that. If people are really upset today about slavery, what a terrible thing it was that white southerners, supposedly they all were slave owners, many know that most American children probably believe that southerners, white southerners, all owned slaves. But when it turns out that it was only 5% of the entire population that ever owned slaves. But big business in slavery today on an industrial scale is all up and down the west coast of Africa. And also found in a large measure in Indonesia. But I don't know of any white nations that have been involved in slavery since the 19th century. And yet that's where all the flak comes from. And crystal and concretizes on is the horrible atrocities of the white people who committed these slave crimes against a helpless black population. And in fact today, this is where the big industry is in Africa. And all the blacks from Africa who are trafficked over here by Jewish slave traders, more whites who are enslaved by Muslims. They used to go up to Ireland for example, Muslims ships and they capture as many Irish as they could. They bring the Irish back and they never be seen again. That's just one little note. This is, I assume you're not in favor of reparation then Frank. These people are demanding five, what is it? $5 billion each in California or something for this bullshit slave reparation crap. They haven't got any of the facts. No, it's all mythology. No, no, it's all mythology. They don't need the facts and looking for a couple of reparations were. If those reparations were paid, it would mean nothing. Do you think that would be the end of it? We'd all be proud of it. Oh no, their children and grandchildren would garner the same rights to reparation. This is like the Holocaust. Now the children of Holocaust victims are entitled to be paid. It's preposterous of course. It's interesting about the emancipation proclamation because that's what June 19th is supposed to really celebrate more than anything else. And yet the emancipation proclamation which was issued to the midst of the Civil War was not done for any moral reasons whatsoever. It was done as Lincoln himself admitted and this is in the real Lincoln and the Lorenzo goes into quite some detail on this. That Lincoln until the emancipation proclamation even up to it and probably afterwards was really indifferent to slavery. In his first inaugural address he stated that he had no right to abolish slavery because it was to do so would be against law, would be against the Constitution. Then just 17 months later he enacted the emancipation proclamation which did free the slaves in this state. This is the real turning point of American history. Was the Civil War, the fact that the Civil War began and the emancipation proclamation, those two things were the turning point of American history and the death of the US Constitution. Because the Constitution affirmed that the United States was a friendly voluntary alliance of the states and that any state had the right to succeed at any time it wanted. When the state people who want to organize, you can go. It's right there on the Constitution. Take it to the Supreme Court. Go, just to succeed. Vote to succeed and just cut it off. Cut the federal control mechanism off. Go ahead. But one had the course of the Southern States, succeeded as they had every constitutional right to do. Then Lincoln initiated this invasion of his own people and caused the Civil War. Then when he had the emancipation proclamation until then you see slavery could only be a matter of states rights. The states themselves were guaranteed the choice to either maintain slavery or to abolish it. And Lincoln stressed that in his first inaugural address. It's printed in the real Lincoln. And when just 17 months after he made that inaugural, his first inaugural address, what did he do? He passed the emancipation proclamation which freed the slaves all across the United States supposedly. From that point on, he said a precedent which from that point on in which the federal government can enforce its will on each state. So states rights from that point on have meant nothing. And along with the loss of states rights was the loss of our Constitution. Since then the Constitution has just been used by different power factions to justify whatever they want. The Constitution is a dead letter. It was killed by Abraham Lincoln in the 19th century. And that is a fact. So we are no longer a constitutional republic. We have not been a constitutional republic since 1865 with two 19th century today that they're celebrating what they're celebrating is the death of a constitutional America. That's what they're really celebrating. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of knowledge. 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If you look into the details of the emancipation proclamation, as it is dissected by Lothel and Seabrook and Lincoln's war in Dealerenz and when the real Lincoln, you see what a complete fraud and what a total failure of the emancipation proclamation was. For example, the emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in those states that the union did not control. In other words, listen to this. This is an interesting statistic. There were during the Civil War, while the North is fighting to free the slaves, supposedly in the South, there were one million black slaves in the Northern States who were not affected. Their owners were not affected by the emancipation proclamation. It's specified that they are in the proclamation that they are not affected. It was directed, the emancipation proclamation was directed entirely at the South. There were certain states that are listed in the emancipation proclamation. Go and read it. Where Maryland, Kentucky and West Virginia were able to maintain their slaves. No problem, folks. The promise was given in the emancipation proclamation for the state of Missouri, which was wobbling to go either to the South of the North. It didn't make up its mind entirely until it was occupied, forcefully occupied by the union. But Missouri was called the 10% solution. The Missouri 10% solution was that if you had a slave and you were supporting the union and you paid your taxes, you could maintain his slavery. But if you were a Confederate sympathizer, then you could not be a slave. That your slave was emancipated from you. It is a complete fraud. The reason why the emancipation proclamation was made was all Lincoln's idea. The idea behind it that he had was that if I have the emancipation proclamation and all the slaves in the South know that they have been freed by me, they will rise up in insurrection as slaughter all of the leaders of the South. That's what Lincoln was hoping for. He was hoping for a mass slave revolt. It didn't happen at all. But in fact, it backfired on him in the worst way. Not only was there no revolt in the South, there was no unrest and there could have been because all of the white men around the front line in the South fighting the union. The plantations were run by women and elderly people. A revolt of the slaves would have succeeded, but it didn't happen. Why? Because it was a very good reason. One of the early critics of the emancipation proclamation told Lincoln one of his advisors that he said, you should not pass this proclamation if you really believe in the moral integrity of the placks because what will happen if you give them total freedom, where are they going to get jobs, how are they going to get food, where are they going to live, what kind of shelter, what kind of clothing. Because you don't like slavery, Mr. President, at least they have work, they have food, they have a place to stay and they have clothes on their back. You know what Lincoln said? This is a quote from him. He's referring to the blacks that are going to be freed by his emancipation proclamation. Quote, let them root, pig or perish. That's what he told us. That's what he said. By the way, if the people who would write down his speeches for history, for newspapers and publications, they had to constantly excise the N word from Lincoln's speeches. A talk he used the word nigger all the time. It was constant with him. And people who wrote his speeches down were always careful to excise the N word from Lincoln's alleged spoken prose. And that's a fact too. That's absolutely correct. Now when he passed the emancipation proclamation, the effect on the North was tedious. It sparked, if you can imagine this, this is during the middle of the Civil War and the Union was not doing that well at that time militarily. 200,000 men deserted because of the emancipation proclamation and 200,000 men. That's not all. Another 90,000 men fled to Canada rather than continue fighting. To grab the砍ed out of the South and sign on with the Confederacy. Well you know who almost did that? Well, as the man that was in charge of the Union Armed Forces, Ulysses asked Grant. Ulysses asked Grant said that if I believed for one minute that I was fighting to free the slaves, I would bring the service of my sword to my enemies. Wow, that's a pair of training days really close. Well that's good. I got it. That's remarkable. I do not know. But it is. And this was the man that was totally in charge. Well, Lincoln himself admitted he said that the emancipation proclamation was the most foolish thing that he had ever done in his entire life. He almost lost the war because of it. He had a lot of backpedal aim to do. But that is it. Vegas lost was that war. You know it's funny when you look at it. Alright, we've got the Union and the Confederacy. The country was fragmented. Now we're back to the same thing. The country is being fragmented. Red states, blue states, red region, blue region. This is where they wanted to go. So the country could again be in a similar condition. I'm not saying there's going to be a big war. I don't think the American people have it anymore. But that could happen politically. And this is this quote from Abraham Lincoln during his first inaugural address. He says, I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful constitutional right to do so. And I have no inclination to do so. 17 months later he passed the Emancipation Proclamation. I mentioned earlier that the U.S. grant had some really encroaching things to say about that too. Even before the Emancipation Proclamation was passed. There was scuttlebutton the army that the president was getting ready to do that. And grants had to issue a statement to his men to calm their fears because he believed that such a thing would never be brought out. He says to this statement, the sole object of this war is to restore the union, Grant said. Should I be convinced it has any other object or that the government designs using its soldiers to execute the wishes of the abolitionists, I pledge to you my honor as a man and a soldier. I would resign my commission and carry my sword to the other side. That's a powerful statement to make, especially coming from one of the most powerful men in the world at that time and head to the union forces. And I think that if these men are allowed to speak for themselves, as in fact happens in these two wonderful books, I think history read becomes alive. It doesn't sound like something from the dustbin of past memories. These are, and we're living human beings that formed what our country is today and what we're going through. Here are just a few quotes from Lincoln himself, again just before, not too long before this war began. These are public statements. He said, this is, I'm Lincoln, what I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races, Negro equality, fudge, how long in the government of a God great enough to make and maintain this universe. So there continue to be naves to vend and fools to gulp so low a piece of dogmatism has this. And this is from the great emancipator where we don't hear quotes like that too often. There were great many more. What's mostly unknown and I think I'm really decisive importance is that Abraham Lincoln was a major proponent of the back to Africa movement. He believed in repatriation all the way up until the day he died. Just 48 hours before he was murdered, he was making arrangements with his secretary of the navy in which he said that if we win this war and we have enough ships left that rather than selling them off or dismantling them, let's use our ships to gather up all of our black Americans and repatriate them to Africa and build cities for them over there. He was talking like this all the way up until the day he died. So this doesn't quite match Stephen Spielberg's vision of Lincoln in his movie and it certainly doesn't match what we're told how we're lied to in the textbooks that are used to steal our children. Yes. You can trace all of our disassentant to hell from that period before America was a different place just like after the imposition now of June 15th, America is going to be a very different place. I'm recognizable and we'll see how much of that good stock is left in the future and that will have to do what needs to be done. It was great to discuss these things with you and I'm very grateful for the opportunity. And we thank you for sharing that. We have much to think about and I hope you all listen to this hour again and spread it around. There's so much that you'll never understand unless you are fortunate enough to listen to people like Frank and others out there and there aren't that many others who are willing to stand up and bring reality to us all. Thank you Frank, that was good. Well you're one of them, that's for sure and thank God for you and people like Seabrook and Diloranzo. There's still some of this left. Okay my friend, you do well. Thank you. You all too, we'll see you next month.