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HOLODOMOR 2.0

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A portion of a podcast featruring Tim Kelly and Joe Atwill.
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757/episodes/2022-12-10T20_01_37-08_00

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Зель вп loud Промодянный журнер. Все. Мы тут цехищаему нашу украшению. Нашу украшению. Так, буду не дать. Слава нашей цехи. Слава нашей цехи. Слава. Дет presentations inmotivia мое вероятно, все trong следующий мое Кذород гравится nuances и wage Victory Netflix. И у patrol equalized by Ukrainian people Not delivered as information to the U.N.ocide Бой дляставbowи Без которые pueden всё «О Contract'. Да, все равно, по партизам и по спорту. Конрессу, в принципе, будет в 100 долларов. В 100 долларов. Да, в 100 долларов. The problem here, Tim, is just the same one that the people in the trenches in World War One, which, incidentally, the trench warfare analogy is not far off. The information I'm getting is that the Ukrainian forces are kind of in the same situation as the trench infantry were in World War One. They're literally in that kind of, you know, they're in mud, they're cold, there isn't the resources. I mean, obviously, the whole country is being, the infrastructure has been just dismantled by Russian missiles. So, they're just holding onto these areas. And the Russians, I'm sure, could just wipe them out anytime they want. They're just slowly grinding them down, lasting because the sanctions are important. And so, the sanctions are working, obviously, for Russia. So, there's no point in ending the war too quickly, even if they aren't actually, in fact, in on the deal, which I suspect. But in any case, you know, you have this holo-demore 2 here going on, 2.0. And the Western media is revisiting the role of the New York Times during holo-demore 1, in which they're not giving the public the actual information of the slaughter that's taking place of the Ukrainians. And so, you know, you're coming into the cold season. They still have no plan for what to do with the population once they start freezing the death. And it's just going to be an absolute carnage, I hate to say. And I'm just, you know, just passing along my, you know, my thoughts for the poor Ukrainians who are suffering with, you know, an evil despot. And the idea of making Zalinsky a person of the year is just, you know, it's just sickening to even consider. Yeah. So, Congress Republicans are willing to fork over another 30 billion to keep the war going. Those who are asking for a... A... A... Он объявил weighвants after all about money. Зай Вelier Сандблога Гnarrator Это экстрем presidente Х expedition Неверс Б lebун photographs Я не сломал Дев disparities Дев scarcity Виги Я normalized Я hormon Йс Виги Йсlaughing nationally flowing- fiber-tむ Steel.うわ, it's Vitaliy Disney, it doesn't make any sense, does it? 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Yeah Well that was a civil man's coup That made like a January 1 look like the Bolshevik Revolution I mean it was just pitiful I saw some pictures of these guys They were stormed the Reichstag В прошлом, в прошлом, what are they getting to storm the Reichstag These guys were in their 70s They had this internet chain where they were expressing their disgust with the German government They just reached out and dressed Again, this is just theater This is what free minds we're going to have to put up with going forward everywhere Because they're always going to be trying to intimidate with this kind of activity They're probably planning one bad seed to start moving the conversation and direction they want But they took it out of the FBI card Yeah, exactly The control sting And then of course this enormous publicity For the purpose of just intimidation I wonder if they equated it to the beer hall put you something in German press I mean, they're just building it just ridiculous There were six They had to bring up the Hitler card Because Hitler's more relevant than ever, right? Well, that's the little I mean, I mean There's no, I mean, Hitler is actually, I mean, I saw some statistics But he's never been more popular in terms of his name being used Because Putin is in the European media He's equated, I mean, they just have Putin slash Hitler Yeah That's how he's characterized And so it's, you know, there was, you sent me a rant by, I believe his name is Dennis Prager Yeah, the Prager you guys on the American greatness website And then there's a short piece Right The title, yeah Yeah, now, very subtle title of Holocaust and I was don't go to hell, there's no God Right Is your objective platform for a Socratic Disorder? Well, as I said, abandoned all hope, you know, abandoned all hope, yee who questioned the Holocaust Every normative newspaper except the Wall Street Journal Every mainstream, medium in television and so on, outside of Fox News You would think the country is on the brink of a Nazi takeover That's how sick they are Not to mention cheapening the word Nazi, for which I don't forgive them As a Jew The word Nazi, for which I don't forgive them As a Jew I have the utter, utter most contempt for the left, for cheapening the Holocaust By calling everybody, including me And of course the president, Nazis, Nazis Either they don't know what the Nazis actually did Or they do know and don't care, I think it's the latter, they don't care They don't care that they are calling good people by the worst possible adjective that we have in our language It's worse than the word devil Teams call themselves devils, right? The New Jersey devils are a hockey team Nobody says with the New Jersey hitlers or Nazis You can play with the word devil, you can't play with the word Nazi But the left plays with the word Nazi I think I've seen this guy, he's a very obnoxious Jewish individual He's right wing I just say yeah, I think I've been talking about the left wing But he's very obnoxious, you know, he interrupts, he tries to talk over people That's the times when I've seen him talk But the article is fascinating because it is the most extreme position I mean this would be like, well, you're condemning yourself to be turned into a pillar of salt You know, if you continue down this path So it was an extreme position that didn't permit any kind of response to it But I wonder if you could get Prager to talk And you could ask him, well, the Holocaust is not a monolith It's a historical event as you claim And it's made up of hundreds of details Can we talk about what details are correct and what are in fact inaccurate And whether or not some of these details have been used for propaganda I mean, the first thing I would ask him is I would show him the film of the Shrunken Hetz And I would say, do you know, are there any Jews in this era that had haircuts like these And aren't these obviously South American natives whose heads have been shrunk? This wasn't done by the Germans And yet these are the first artifacts that the media presented indicating German atrocities Right, it was on the table with the human land shade So the question would be, is there any chance Mr. Prager that these could be Jewish individuals Whose head was shrunk? And if not, would you admit that Billy Wilder, oddly, who was brought into shoot Film all this, has actually captured a piece of propaganda Because you see, if you could just get him, well, of course it would never happen Because I have no idea what he really believes But I know that his position will be sort of like the CDC relative to vaccine safety and efficacy It's just a monolithic position, it can never ever ever be changed But if you could find someone who was more reasonable, who was defending the position that Prager was You could then, once you would start with one element that is clearly incorrect Then you could move toward well, the claim for 6 million, you know, habeas corpus, where are the bodies? Where are the bones? They're all burned? Can we go through this mechanically and just see how they could have done that? You could actually start to, I think, make progress if you stick to act as a, as a, as a, as a, just a discussion trying to understand the truth about details But the way he presents it here is just the way it operates as our most important intellectual structure Because it comes from God and it is, it is just literally the blaspheme of the divine to take any other position than the one that they want us to have So therefore we can't think about it, we can't discuss the details No, I mean, yeah, he says, it was the most documented event in history, oh, oh, really? Where are the documents? Yeah, photographs, we see photographs of dead bodies, okay, no doubt there are dead bodies I think there are a lot of millions of dead bodies in Europe, students are all out here because of the war And particularly in the camps because of the conditions there, which were a product of the war, particularly the attempt by the allies to blockade And also bomb the country back in the Stone Age, show people were dying of disease, starving death, particularly camps with terrible typhus outbreaks You know, because of the lights, which why you had, you know, IG Farman had, you know, the Cyclone B And the allowsing chambers, he talks about gas chambers, there are no gas chambers, this is admitted now in the western camps, that was a lie Properly, yeah, like the Shorthand Badge, the Lanshands, yeah, correct Yeah, the all the other stories come from the east, which there is no evidence, all he cites, I witness accounts Yes, so lots of eyewitnesses accounts and narratives, which cannot be relied upon, without the fact that they're not in the end But Tim, I mean, remember, the Holocaust works against the European race, right? Yes, right, it's the Germanic, you know, anti-Semitism The fact that there were camps where the Jews were slaughtered in the east is not important because those are the Bolsheviks Yeah, even though he cites Eisenhower and patent, liberating the camps, we know from Ken Burns that the United States is the blame for the Holocaust Right, right, right, right, right, he had, you know, a program had two pictures of the camps at the end And it's, you know, you know, when you come in after the war is over and you have these piles of bodies And he, with the pictures, he's creating the image that, well, this was the act of the Germans, the racial hatred against the Jews When in fact, there is no way to determine the ethnicities of the bodies And moreover, I've been studying like the fire bombing And it wasn't, you know, a dozen cities It was like 50 cities that were fire bombing So therefore, there could not be any transportation There wasn't any economy, there was no way that you'd get food to anyone during this period And so therefore, you have to, if you want to have a, you know, to kind of address the photographs of this, the piles of bodies You have to go back to the prior 60 days, 90 days of actual details and events To try to determine how it came to be that these people starved to death And when you do that, you, just obvious that you will see, well, the U.S. and the Allies are playing a part here Because they weren't permitting any food Even if the Germans had made the decision to, well, we want to fatten up everyone in the camps before the war ends They couldn't, there wasn't any way they could get transportation between the cities at this point And there was no food left in the country that, that anyone had any control over them No, Hitler, it's in mind, Tom, Hitler wanted to kill all Jews And he was willing to go to the North Pole to kill Jews Because I saw it and I raised the law start There you go I mean, it was just, anyway, they're continuing to keep us from thinking about it They're analyzing the details But I think, you know, kind of reminding me a little bit of, we talked about John Stewart's, you know, using the old screed that he's hoping that one day he'll see a European president elected in America And I said, you know, this really seemed weak to me, it seemed like he was afraid He just didn't have any confidence in what he was saying And I kind of think Prager is in the same thing I don't think that this, actually, there's almost something, yeah, there's like an air desperation in their articles Yeah, I'm not going to start knowing what to have in respect for Well, there's a, I mean, obviously when Eisenhower highlighted the atrocities, this was done because the Eisenhower and the High Command and the US government and the Allies wanted to highlight the alleged atrocities The Germans to obscure their own war crimes As you mentioned, the fireballing of German cities and also the Ryan Meadow camps But I was not oversold, which hundreds of thousands of Germans, President War Paris, just due to exposure and neglect Of course, the Germans could have the excuse that simply their economy collapsed, there was no food to feed Germans, most of us inmates in the concentration camps By the lot of stages of the war in 1945, late 1944, 1945, the Allies had no such excuse So there's that, again, but then again, there hasn't been hundreds or thousands of movies made about the Ryan Meadow camps or the fireballing of German cities Why not? Because these don't fill countless TV shows, series, the backdrop or the other shows and these things So it's not in the public conscious, but nevertheless it happened And unlike the alleged Holocaust narratives that are ever changing, these are well documented and not indisputed, and that's the thing He says, you know, why is it the Holocaust is the one genocidal event that's questioned? Well, because it's much fashuous and it's the most unproven We know not 11 happened, you know, why it happened? Who was involved in it, but we know it happened So there's that, he also quotes Eisenhower, I'm sorry, he quotes Eisenhower, when he witnessed, and he also quotes Patton Yes Now, Patton wrote in his diary, when we began the approach to our troops, the Germans thought it expedient to remove the evidence of their crime Therefore, they had some of the slaves that doomed the bodies and placed them on the mammoth griddle, composed a 67-meter railway track laid on the brick foundations They poured pitch on the bodies and then built a fire of Pinewood and co-owner them They were not very successful in their operation because there was a pile of human bones, skulls, charred torsos, on under the griddle which must have been counted for about many hundreds and hundreds Well, yeah, there are dead bodies, Patton does not say how they died or why they died, these were typhoons What ethnicity they were? Yeah, we're these bombing victims, and well, that's kind of funny because I have other Patton quotes Yes, I know I learned more, what was going on I don't know what it is, but I just wanted to point out something that the habeas corpus issue in that they couldn't actually evaporate a few hundred bodies They were visible, they'd burn them, but there was still remains, even if they were Well, okay, if they couldn't get rid of 200, where did the 6 million go? Yeah, just would like to see some of the details fleshed out here, but anyway, like Patton, yeah, some of the quotes that Patton, you know, heard the letters that he was writing at this time, I'm sure got him killed Yeah, remember Patton's rolling into these camps, this is April 1945 Yeah, he doesn't know what to make of it at first, these are camps there and sergeant missions Now obviously as the war ends the following month and then the occupation of Germany, he starts to see what's happening And he sees how the Germans are being treated from the fumes that are remained, they're being kicked out in the favor of displaced persons, lodged you Jews He says he actually used the term Semetic Vengeance He does, right? And so, I mean, Prigger could use other quotes if he wanted to go Right, I mean, yeah, he wanted to use Patton's quote, let's use all of them Yeah, no, Patton said that there was some kind of conspiracy going and he said it is Semetic and he said he could prove it That's the one letter to his sister But this was shortly before his mysterious auto accident where even though he wasn't killed originally, he was now killed in the hospital So I think you can put two together there and understand what happened to him So using Patton I thought was kind of a stretch and of course using Eisenhower is frankly ridiculous Well, Eisen gives it away when he says that he wanted to make these films to make it clear to the truth what they're fighting for And so, you're making a propaganda film to create an exposed factor justification for all the carriages slaughter which you have overseen, Marsley So you can create a false narrative to say we had to do all this destructionistic because they were doing this, they were so bad And that's the reason for that, it's already saying that Prager doesn't provide any evidence in that article and then you can list all the false things Let's say to question the Holocaust, do you have to believe in lampshades? Human lampshades? Human made of soap? Do you have to believe that German girls escaped from the countries and they were raised by wolves in the countryside? All these stories that came out Even the stories of a mobile diesel-powered gas vans which were false That's the narrative, which is highly the biggest part of it Hey, it's important, I mean, somehow they got rid of six million bodies, disappeared I mean, there's not a single, not even a particle of dust, bone dust left, I mean, it's incredible, whether a technological achievement So the whole thing actually was fake Even Steven Spielberg's sender's list, and they chose the showerson and all the girls women being chased into the shower And during the theatre expecting to see get- we all know the story, the fake gas, the showers, it turns out being a shower And Steven Spielberg, how the thoughts of the Nair? It's a shower in the shenders list, you know, these things, but then again, we're watching the shenders list, and it's in black and white And it's supposedly its history, and we can't question shenders list Yeah, so there you go, I mean, what do you, can I say, it's a Jewish theology, yes, at this point Yeah, I mean, it's a mythology, and Prager, I look at that as kind of diminishing returns, I think that this is probably coming out because in Prager's mind, and perhaps is the handlers there, just seeing this all shift away, you know, from control And so now they're trying to find a way to ratchet control back up, this just marks dream And in this case, crazy theology kind of positions, which are just designed to intimidate to keep people discussing it