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Wolfgang Halbig The Interview -Marty Leeds

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*Formerly the Executive Director of the National Institute for School and Workplace Safety, Wolfgang Halbig has recently formed a new safety and security company, Children's Safety Institute. Prior to founding NISWS, Mr. Halbig worked in public education as a teacher, dean, and assistant principal, principal, principal of an alternative school and as the Director for School Safety and Security of the Seminole County Public Schools, a school district of approximately 65,000 students.

Mr. Halbig also has law enforcement experience as a former Florida State Trooper in Miami, Florida, and as a United States Customs Inspector. Given his unique background in both law enforcement and education, Mr. Halbig was invited by the United States Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police officers, school superintendents and school principals.

He travelled the country by providing presentations and keynotes to a variety of audiences, including the National Education Law Conference, the National School Board Association, the Oklahoma School Board Association, the Illinois School Board Association, the New York State School Board Association and the Florida School Board Association.

A nationally recognized school safety and security expert and consultant, Halbig has provided safety training and school assessments for more than 4,000 school districts nationwide. He has also been featured on Dateline (NBC) and Good Morning America (ABC). He earned his B.S. from Abilene Christian University, Abilene Texas, and his M.S. from Nova University in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

https://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/25/retired-cop-and-educator-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook-investigation/
Marty had these taken down many times and after many attempts to make them JT friendly, he just removed them. I have sent him an invite to 153news but he is moving ATM and will come see when settled.

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You got a few years I mean that's all I need to go back what I need to do No you're good. Alright welcome everyone today I am joined by the one and only Wolfgang Helbig Wolfgang is a former state trooper. He's a Vietnam veteran. He's a former US customs agent. He's a teacher, educator, school principal and has been a school safety advisor instructor and administrator for what a couple decades now right Wolf? Yeah but 32 years. 32 years. Amongst other countless titles and jobs you've had over the years so Wolfgang has been actively involved in the investigation and inquiries into the Sandy Hook school shooting and since day one and and so that shooting is coming up on its five-year anniversary here and so that's what we're gonna discuss today so thanks for thanks for joining me Wolf. Thanks for asking me to be here. So as of as of two months ago I didn't even know who you were and now where I am and now here I am making a documentary on you so I didn't even know who you were so and my lady one day was asking we were just discussing some random like its fears he's an assort of thing and Sandy Hook came up and she didn't know anything about it so I was like oh well go online we'll check it out and you know that's how I stumbled upon you and I ended up watching just one interview and I was just hooked I was completely compelled as to your your the play of your justice so and so that's how I ended up talking to you today so can you can we give a little background of people that don't know you there might be in a position that I was in that didn't don't know who you are how did you get involved with this whole Sandy Hook thing I think that's probably one of the most intriguing questions is that people don't understand one you've already elaborate I'm a national school safety consultant that's what I do that's how I make my living okay I travel a country from one end to the other I've been out of country I do this I help superintendents and school board members develop their say school planning I train all of their teachers all their administrators do you know what it's like to be invited by superintendents and board members to come in their home they trust you yeah you know what that takes years and years of experience okay and you know what is the greatest privilege for them to say hey Mr. Halbic how would you like to come in and help us you know I don't hesitate now the question you ask how did I get involved in this well you know every time there's a school shooting across the country we as national school safety consultants you know we pay attention we want to know what happened we want to learn and then we want to make recommendations how to make it better if it ever happened again well Sandy Hook happened on December 14th 212 not a month and a half later I get a phone call from the Florida School Board Association in Tallahassee Florida and they said Mr. Halbic can you come and do a workshop for all of our Florida School Board members remember 67 counties we want to learn about active shooter training can you come to tap a Florida and do a presentation I trained all of them out one of them questioned me and then when I showed them the video on active shooter training the hands winner Mr. Halbic Mr. Halbic what do we do to make sure we don't have a Sandy Hook in our community and our school district what do we do I can have the answers listen usually I'm pretty good at it because the information that was coming out of Sandy Hook in Newtown and Connecticut it was so much misinformation so much misdirection you didn't know who to believe and who to trust so I told the board members I said let me find out and I'll come back to you and let you know okay so I started using the phone call people they refused to talk to me so I said well if you're not gonna talk to me I'm gonna use the Freedom of Information Act you know the Connecticut State Freedom so I started asking for documents public documents which we all have a right to it refused to give me to me can you can you explain freedom of information act a little bit just about what that whole process is well you know the greatest gift that we all have is taxpayers and citizens of this country or even non- citizens we have a right whenever we feel like there's something not right to request public record documents and you shouldn't have to hire an attorney to do this this is what's really amazing about this public records it says Mark says look I'm in a public record and what you do is you send them an email you know under the Connecticut State Freedom of Information Act I'd like to have the following information okay I like copies of the example to contractor that the new town Connecticut School Board hired to clean up all of the bio hazards all the blood brain matter body tissues bubbly fluids okay I like a copy of their certification I like a copy of their bill their billing statements I like they have a copy of how they transported the products and where do they take them to be destroyed okay public record and they do exist the problem is they say no records exist okay who cleaned it up no records exist to this day four years later they have refused to give me those documents now okay now what do we do if they refuse to give them to you just through an email or just communication now I got a higher in the attorney that's already towards the $5,000 retainer so she writes the same letter that I did and they refused to give it to her so now what do we do they attorney has to file an appeal with the Connecticut for your commissioners which causes me to pay $600 for an airplane ticket to fly the Connecticut yeah and guess what we get to in front of the commissioners they're on their side they will not help me in any way and they are actually interfering with public record laws I think that commission is as crooked as they come today and they're all appointed by the governor yeah because when they said that you know when when the town of Newtown they they responded we don't have the responsive documents and then you took that to the commission the commission was just fine with that instead of the commission saying well no you should have these responsive documents you should have an email chain you should have the records but they just let it go right they let it go but see the attorney if you listen to this very document that you put together that attorney is a slick little he's a liar I'm just gonna take some I'll help he soos me I can't wait that is the worst liar as an attorney also the court I've ever seen just a diesel of a human being so we use it let me tell you what I'm sorry for his children that they have a father that would actually go out and lie and say the things that he's saying and the reason I say that he says did I not tell you I'm the attorney for a new town did I not tell you I'm the attorney for the police department yes but remember I'm requesting those public records from the new town school board not the town of new town yeah not yeah not I curse from the police department I respond to the police department not to town the new town see see he covers it all generic way but I feel to it through him right yeah yeah that's our the firm represents the new town police department board education and first one elected me referred to here it has the calendar that's what you're going to control the document so I'm going to right forんだ communities right ready for my question well I can't be sure the Old Tera or the square I'm not debt my budget is that haven't shown that's why you respond and you're giving to Sender for me right. I don't let me but remember the key to the whole process, who is the keeper of the records? There's your answer. Who is the keeper of the public record documents? When we're talking about bio hazards, right? That happened on school property, right? Who should have those documents? And they're insurance companies because they have to pay for it. See, so again, this obfuscation, they over and over, and the Connecticut Freedom Commission, the needs for people are powerful people. These are appointed people by the governor and they're protecting this money frame. The old system is rigged. You never, ever have to hire an attorney. Yeah, I've spent over $100,000 flying up, flying back, flying up attorneys. This is now my second attorney. I just let her go. Wow. What, why did you let her go just because? Well, no, it's just, I think, I think, and one way I think she cared, I think, in the other way, I think she's concerned. She's worried about her safety, the safety of her family. I have a problem is that when we, when we spend $400 for a subpoena and we issue it through a marshal and it's served and we serve four subpoenas. They're delivered. They sign for it. And those people are my key witnesses and they refuse to show up because that attorney, Monty Frank calls them up and tells them, don't show up to testify. How does an attorney have that right? That's called witness tampering. I mean, don't tell her when somebody else is witness. That's a felony. Yeah. Okay, so we're trying to get an op-bamment. She's taking it to the judge the next morning to the superior court judge and pardon him to enforce it. And this didn't happen one time. It happened two times. And enough is enough. Before we move on with the whole FOIA commission and all of that stuff, let's, let's revisit some of those, those 16 questions that you initially had, which started this whole thing. Can we like hit on some of those major anomalies that you saw within the first couple weeks that you really wanted answers for? Well, again, as I'm speaking, anyone, anyone who watched the 24-hour news cycle on that day, I was hooked. Man, you had me hooked. You could not get me away from that television. I had all three. I'm going, I cannot believe to this day that somebody would go into an elementary school, shoot children and teach me. I mean, I just can't leave. That's somebody would do it. That's a cowardice act. Okay. They know they're defenseless. Okay. So for the first week, I watched everything. There is I got into the funerals. I watched people. I watched law enforcement. I listened to what the public information officer Paul Vans kept saying. It's not trying to listen, but the more I listened, there was so much misinformation coming out from all the national news media. Paul Vans was giving out misinformation. It didn't general. Yeah, and it wasn't just the media because the media, it could be hearsay, but when you get information that comes directly from the source like of lieutenant, then you have issues, right? Well, when you got Lieutenant Paul Vans on the national television program being asked by 60 minutes, Scott Pelley, when you went inside the school, Lieutenant, where did you find the body of Adam Lanza? Paul Vans says, not just once, but many times we found him in the hallway. Yeah, yeah. Scott Pelley says hallway. Lieutenant Vans says, yes, the hallway. Now he says that the information that's credible has to come from my microphone and if it comes from anywhere else, it's not true. And prosecution will take place when people perpetrating this information are identified. Again, all information relative to this case is coming from these microphones and any information coming from other sources cannot be confirmed and in many cases it's been found is inaccurate. He is lying in the 60 minutes he's lying to this country. He doesn't even know where Adam Lanza's body was located. It was in classroom 10. See, so worst the accountability for the lie. I thought, well, no, no, I thought that was to me telling that you've got a public information, the voice of the Connecticut State Police, it bothered me. But here's what I saw because remember I do active shooter training. I'm certified by FEMA and Homeland Security. I have watched the video that National News was showing. Sorry, let me pause you there really quick. I just want to reiterate this. So you are certified by Homeland Security and FEMA. So you've taken courses. I've taken courses. I actually trained people. I was hired by the US Department of Justice to train 35 others to police officers across the United States on active shooter training. Now, how is it that the Justice Department trust me? It believes in me. Yeah. And I challenge anyone who's listening today or is going to get to see your documentary. I challenge you. Contact the United States Department of Justice. Demand to get a copy of every one of my evaluations for the training that I did for the United States Department. You read what those people listen to me. Don't listen to you. Listen to the customer. Listen to those who need the information to be prepared for the next mass casually. Why don't you do something and find out the truth? Contact the Department of Justice. But what really got my attention is when the news is showing training session. Connecticut State Police responding to an active shooter in high school. Right. And then guess what's landing? Trauma helicopter. Okay. So just training. It's not real. But yet we fly into trauma helicopters. But when you have a real mass shooting, children, teachers are actually very shot. And you don't even bother to pick up the phone and call them. How is that even possible? Who is the knucklehead? Who is the incident commander that didn't pick up the phone? That is my number one issue. Yeah. And that was all day. No, no trauma helicopters all day. Well, number one, remember part of my job as the National Security Council, I have to verify my facts. So I actually called a life star trauma helicopter in Hartford, Connecticut. I spoke to the executive director and I said, please help me understand why in the world would you not send your trauma helicopters the same to you? And put a staff doctor on there. These are children. These are teachers. And they said, Mr. Howell, but I understand we were never asked to respond. That's impossible. We have a psychological accident and we send trauma helicopters. We have car accidents. We send trauma. You're going to tell me we have children. First, greater shot in the school. And nobody has the common decency. I tell you what, when I came across one of your speeches and you had said that immediately that clicked in my head to no trauma. I mean, I grew up in, you know, Monroe, Wisconsin, Madison was about 45 minutes away. He had a car accident. You were calling Medflight, you know, anything like this. I mean, Medflight was there and they were hauling people up to Madison to a trauma center. And here we have a mass shooting and then never called. That one really got to me. Never picked up the phone. It was really, and we all know this, okay? Get them lift off, right? Get them going, right? You can always cancel the call. Yeah. But for them, not the bother to pick up the phone to call them. And then I started seeing the porta-potties show up and I'm sitting there going, okay, we got porta-potties. We can order food. We got pizza. We can't call trauma helicopters. And that really as a consultant, that bothered me. How can you eat? How can you eat when you have 20 children and teach your shot dead? And you've got images of them ordering water and food and chips and like, pizza and whatnot. And then you had also said something to the effects of that. It wasn't like they just took this and ate it outside. They actually brought it into the school. They just remember when a prime scene and then eating lunch with dead children. I can see you could actually see them pick up all the food and is being carried into the front entrance if you look very closely. How do you eat lunch inside the school knowing that the principal Dom Hawksboro and the psychology show, I think Sherlock. The hall with the front entrance shot dead. So if you're going to go in and eat, you have to pass by in them. How could you? Nobody eats. I've been a state trooper. You think when I see death, I want to go down to get me a hamburger. What you do is you go to the nearest bar after the shifts over. You can get drunk so you don't remember it. Come on. This is the R is law enforcement also. Beach you and job is a tough job every day. And why do you think we all go drink after our shift? We get drunk and I'm being honest with you. We drink so when we go to sleep at night, we don't see those images and we don't see that smell. If you look at my clients list, I wish the nationals knew safety consultant. For 42 out of 67 counties here in Florida, I'm black ball. I mean, they will not touch me because I'm raising questions, legitimate questions, which everyone should be asking about San Yo can how we respond to on the worst school shooting in the US history. And you know what? The question, see, if it wasn't for you and others out there, you're challenging. You're asking the right questions. What you all that ask is why is this NBC, ABC, CNN? Why are they not asking the same questions? Do you know not one national news organization ever questioned why no trauma helicopters? Not one news organization ever said or challenged the Connecticut State Police or Newtown Police? Why didn't you let paramedics and EMTs in your all day long? Why could they not challenge them? I mean, I'm assuming your opinion is much like mine that these aren't really news, these are investigative reporters anyway. These aren't legitimate news organizations. They essentially are propaganda outlets if you will now because all the people that were reporting on San Ehoek weren't asking questions. They were just telling you, oh, many children are dead six, you know, six teachers. That was it. There was there was no why. There was no, it was just here's the story. And then that was it. Well, I had a case, not even that really touches even me to today. There was a middle school student, a six grader. He was shot dead by SWAT team member, shot with an AR-15 through the head. And they transported them and they put him on a respirator at the emergency room, trauma center. And what I remember the most, I saw the parents down there. And the first thing they wanted to make sure is that that even though their son was shot, that he could give the gift of life donate organs. So others can live. Well, you know, I go back to Danbury Hospital with those two children, we're transported to. They were still alive when they arrived at Danbury Hospital. Well, you know, nobody asked if they donate any organs. I mean, did they give the gift of life? See, those are things that are who makes us special. If we give back so others can live. I don't see any of their good stories like that. It's just not the people that... The other thing, the other thing you had mentioned too is that you don't hear of, is speaking of the stories, you don't hear of the 600 other children that were supposedly at... Why weren't they interviewed? Why weren't they talked about? Is there any heroic stories within, you know, that... You don't hear from any of them. Which, to me, that's... He would've read for us. She's no one. Now, you know this, and nobody talks about this. Every child that you watched other news, on that day, being interviewed, those parents had to sign the release form. That child can't be interviewed without parental consent. They actually physically have to sign a form. So think about all the children on that day. Those arrangements have been made for those kids to be interviewed and they have parental fit signatures. People don't carry those forms with them all day long. In the last four years, I've traveled across the country and there isn't a moment. I don't get a chance. I ask people at the airport, do you believe, saying you have really happened? Yes, they don't hesitate. Do you believe, honestly, in your heart, that children and teachers died on December 14th? Oh, absolutely, Mr. Howard. How do you know that to be the truth? I've watched it on television. That is the only proof that they have that that actually happened. Now, can you imagine we as a people, we as a nation as a country, we're going to trust the news. See, we're in trouble. If we're going to rely on the national news media, 24-7 news cycle, the fetusness, then remember seeing in the end, they lied about having reporters overseas. They're actually shooting a fake scene at Atlanta, at their studio, and they're mocking us as being stupid. Yeah, well, I mean, they've been shown to be quite the outlet for news, if you will. The most recent thing is that the big nothing problem. Really? The most recent thing is that the most recent thing is that the most recent thing is that the ratings. Let's look at you. This is the other one I didn't know about was the new town movie that the documentary that was made about several years after talking to some of the parents and whatnot. And so we just watched the other night and it was about, the filmmakers pretty obscure. I've never heard of this woman at all. Kim Schneider, I think it's her name or something like that. She lives over there. Yeah. The whole piece just reeks of CIA propaganda. I don't know. I mean, there's no info shared in the movie. There's no evidence. There's no proofs. All it is is this, it's like this whole big plan, your emotions. I don't think that any of us that were in there feeling anybody needs to know specifically what we saw. When you remember Sandy Hook, remember all the tragedy and how horrific it was and that was it. And the scene that got you and really got me after I watched it was the month senior vice. Robert was the most trusted man in new town. Yeah. Can you flesh out this whole thing for us here? Well, you know, I saw the video and I could not believe that here I'm watching. I'm a Catholic. And let me tell you, I was confirmed in Germany at 12th as a Catholic. But when I see a Catholic month senior priest, okay, walk down the aisle in that documentary and when he says, I just don't know how it happened. He shoots out the glass, walking down the aisle of the church, ain't rules limited. He reaches in, he opens the door and he takes lines. God couldn't have opened that door. There's a class partition that prevents anybody from reaching in the open. And beyond that, I mean, it's one of those heavy school doors that you have to push the idea that you'd even be able to reach in through broken glass through a window that's there and then push open a door to get into the school. It's a door that you have to give him and you get into the whole new area, right? A cattle bit. Then he has to open that door. There's no way you can open both doors. See, so the question we have to ask, why would the most trusted man a Catholic month senior lie to the world? Why? He's been told to lie. I have lost all faith in a Catholic church. When you have a month senior at that level lie to us as a public. Now who wrote that script for him? That's the question I have. And on those lines, I think a big problem that people have is like, and you've addressed this, was like, well, how many, I mean, how could you get this many people involved? How could this many people be involved in a conspiracy of faking the school shooting like this? And so when you get asked that question, the response is, what's your response? Well, first of all, I could never believe that our own government would ever do some personal. That's the one I've obvious to me, that I can't believe that our government would even think about doing something like this. Okay, let me just let you one second there. I mean, I mean, isn't that some, the kind of the fundamental problem here that you have is that so many people believe that it's just unbelievable to them that somebody would pull off or try to pull off something like this. And that's the biggest dilemma. Everybody says, well, how in the world can so many people be involved? Well, the people that are asking me, those questions have you ever heard of a capstone exercise? It's a very, I mean, you I'm sure you didn't hear it before, okay? Yeah, I knew, but yeah, anyway, go ahead. The highest level of Homeland Security conducting a drill, it starts at the president's desk, goes down the air cooler, goes down to the FBI director, the governor, it has to be, it must, it must. There's no choice. An entire community event, that means they all have to buy in. And if they can't do that, they can't hold that drill, okay? And there is money attached to doing something like this. Lots and lots of money. And it's still rolling in today as we're talking. The money never is going to stop rolling in the new town Connecticut. See, that's the thing. It keeps rolling and giving because they're playing with our hearts and with our minds. But when I say the whole community, I think you cannot get the entire community to be given a script. What you do is you select people who have a criminal history, who have bankruptcy, who have criminal records, who have 10 different names. We don't know who to have a they are. But what happens, you select, let's say, 150 key players, okay? And then what you do is you expect the rest of them to respond like anybody would to an emergency. So you've got to have people coming back at you like it was real. I have a witness statement from an ambulance driver who responded to San Diego. They were told to sit over there in that corner and not move. They had to give up their cell phones. They had to produce their ID to somebody so they could have their names what would you do that? They're responding to provide paramedics and EMTs and they're told to park and not move there all day long. I mean, you have to make any sense. So when we had kind of mentioned before that the new town could be some sort of, you know, at least in parts, some sort of CIA community, if you will, or at least people are brought there when they, you know, they've gotten to financial trouble and they've gotten to some legal issues or something like that. And they ended up getting into new town and get involved in this. Is that? And I tell you what, I wanted to move there for six months and write my book up there. And I was even looking at houses to rent for six months and they told me not to come to new town that I would regret it. And they actually told me, do not come to new town. You need not to come here. And I wanted to do that to do exactly what you're saying. I wanted to see who the people are. I have never seen so many people with so many different names. How is that even possible? And at least for my own investigation, short investigation, nobody wants to talk. No one's talking. You bring this up and, you know, unless you're a filmmaker that's making new town documentary or whatever. And then they're open up all day long. But you know, if it's, you know, average person on the street is as far as I could tell, no one wants to talk about it. Nobody. They're actually afraid to talk about it. You actually can sense the fear in their eyes. And whether you eat in the restaurant in new town, whether you want to get close to the school, they block you at every, every point. And it's amazing. I've never, I've never seen anything like it. Well, for example, I had a film crew on a New York meet me in Newtown Firehouse. Now think about nobody knew that I was supposed to have been there. I'm standing on the corner at the Firehouse and people are driving by their cars, SUVs, Mercedes. And they call them my name, tell them you the F-View. Thank you, baby. Oh, look, you know, unbelievable, right? I'm not here with creative animation, man. Yeah, I'm not here. I'm here. Our level's nice to meet you. Public sidewalk, right? Public sidewalk, right? Thank you. I know, but what I'm doing is not okay, right? There's a problem with sidewalk. You speak louder. Right? I'm going to stay right here. I'm going to do whatever you say. I'm in Newtown, Connecticut. Nobody's supposed to know I'm there. They're driving by yelling out my name. And then Gene Rosen, the famous Gene Rosen, he comes driving by and I yell at him, hey, see Gene, can you come back here? I want to talk to you. He turned back around. He moved over to me. Did he talk to me? He talked to me, but as soon as I said, my name is Wolfgang Halle big, he said, I can't talk to you. See, he's told that it's all to me. He all got a memo or something. He had six children in his house. Remember they were dropped off in his yard? My name is a wolfgang Halle big. Everybody's mad, I want you to know he did a great job. I love you interviews. You're very photogenic. So what do you think? I think I'm a household name. But why? I'm 71 years old. There is nothing to be afraid of. Listen, why no trauma helicopters? Why no paramedics of EMTs? Who declared all of the children legally dead in eight minutes when only a doctor in Connecticut can make that pronouncement of death? How do you violate all of these rules of procedures? And nobody challenges it. Where are the 600 other kids? Where are the 26 kids you sang at the Super Bowl a month and a half later? Nobody has ever seen them or heard from them again. How do 26 kids just disappear? You had just mentioned the Super Bowl and so about two months after the shooting, 26 children, they were deemed the Sandy Hook Elementary school choir went and sang at the Super Bowl. Now prior to this and apparently after, they were essentially given a gag orders to say, not talk about this. And you'd sent me the link and it basically says that they don't want the publicity. And I was and I'm reading this to my lady and she was just like, they're at the freaking Super Bowl. There's 110 million people watching. What? Like, does that, that doesn't make any sense at all. Like, you don't want publicity, but you're going to go to like one of the most watched events on television. It just doesn't make any sense. Why would children get gag orders? Well, think about what you're doing. But see, what's really sad that the part people are not looking at being a school administrator? Thinking the damage that you're causing those children even today, okay? Think about it. You're telling them to repress their feelings in emotions that they can never tell their friends about the greatest day in their lives. How do you tell a fourth grader that you can never ever talk about that for the rest of your life? What did you have to do to make those kids be silent? See, that's what scares me. That's mental health issues. These kids have been mentally, mentally and cruelty attacked like telling that you can't talk about it. And we're the parents of those 26 children. How is that possible? And why would the school board not bring an into their school board meeting to recognize their accomplishment? Yeah, it doesn't make a lick of sense. Well, why is it okay? It doesn't make any sense, but why are people not asking? That's what the school bothers me. The one thing about America is that we, the people, we ask questions. That's what makes America unique. Freedom of speech, we have a right to ask. We have a right for public records. Why can't we get them? It's just amazing how I am treated with such disrespect. And it is. I am being blocked at every single turn, okay? And why? If it really, really happens, okay? How can we learn from the tragedy to teach other? How can I teach others how to prevent if I don't know the truth? The dash cams that they gave me for an example. I've been asking for dash cam since February 28, 2013, a copy of Lieutenant St. Goh's dash cam. Remember name dash cam is car number, his ID. What do they give me? An officer mole holes dash cam. Well, did I ask for officers mole hole? No, I asked for officer sinko. They tell me I got it. That's it. How do I challenge them? Even the commissioners, the freedom of information commissioners. I asked them, did you bother to look at the dash cam to see if I got what I requested? No, we're getting. Then how can you tell me I got it? Yeah, how can you be a actual judge? They never looked at it, but yet they say I got it. No, there is dash cam of its officer Chapman, I want to say his name. And there's, and that's what you would sent me. And it's three images of officer Chapman from Chapman from his dash cam. And it's I think every single one says 923 or 1023 or something like that. And it's three different stops at the exact same time from the same dash cam on the exact same day. How did he stop three different people at the exact same time? The stop officer Chapman who did it, that's actually officer Sebrough. That's the officer Sebrough in Chapman's car. But how is that possible when I have to do these schedule that officer Sebrough is assigned car 13 and that's who should be in that car. This is such a scam. It is the biggest illusion fraud conspiracy. Rico, I mean, it's staying so bad. And then when I actually call my US Senators here for them or Congressman here for them, they refuse to return my phone. They don't want to talk about saying you know. Now these are our elected officials. Don't you think the people of this country have a right to know even though how heartbreaking it is? Okay. They still have a right to know. Well, isn't isn't that the thing that whoever has planned this and decided this and implemented it? I think that they were planning on no one asking questions because how dare you question the death of children? How can you be such a heartless cruel man wolf gang and dare question? Well, you're not questioning that. You're questioning everybody else that's saying those children are actually dead. But they get it in such a way. I'm glad you said that, Mordy. But let me tell you, whoever wrote this thing, smart because whoever does question it, people look at you like you mentally unstable. See, now here comes the mental aspect of this entire event. Okay. Anyone who deers questions with a shooting death of children and teachers has got to have a mental health issue. Yeah. Right. And then they label you as mentally unstable and what does that do? It destroys your credibility. And that's what they've been doing regarding my job as an aspect of school safety consultant. They're labeling me as being mentally unstable, being a mental patient. So they're trying to destroy every bit of credibility that earned for over 32 years. And that's in general how you as far as like national press is concerned. You did the what New York magazine and then basically you were on Info Wars, but other than that, no one was saying anything. CNN, I was on the day of the network, news network. But anything that's ever written about me is that I'm a conspiracy theorist, you know, that I'm mentally unstable. I heard not see you're a not see you're not see you're not standing on the not see you. Newtown, Connecticut, I'm I think it is I'm the leader of a conspiracy group. I mean, she's the only leader that I have is my wife and she tells me what to do. She tells me what to do to my wife. Um, yeah, can I ask a little bit how this has affected your family and your relationships and whatnot because you've been, I mean, you've been, you've been at this thing consistently for many years now and you're not giving up. So I can't give up because, you know, I, I have only an act or there's my United States naturalization papers. And when I look at it, I think about what does that really mean to me? When I raised my right hand and I was sworn into the U.S. citizen, I have responsibilities. That's why I joined the military. That's why I became, I just feel like that when you get that responsibility that you got to give back. And so when those cops came into my house and threatened me that if I don't stop asking questions, it changed everything in my heart in my life. Hey, you, you can't tell me that I can't ask questions. And I'm telling you, you really put the bear, you really got me upset for that. And I told my wife, I'm not going to give up on it. And what they've done basically because they can't stop me. Now they've attacked my wife, they've attacked my sons, they've attacked my children, my granddaughters, they've even sent packages that have been contaminated with pathogens in the U.S. mail. And I can't get anybody to help me. And you've got a report with the FBI and medical police. And the FBI officers, I personally went to the FBI in Dakota Beach, Florida. I've written letters to it. I don't get anybody to look at it. Why? Okay, so this is the question I have because you're obviously a much more patient man than I am because if I was dealing with this for four or five years, like you have been, I think I would probably get a little bit, I don't know, rough around the edges, I would probably get really irritated and aggravated and probably give up, but you're not giving up. So I haven't given up because I do have good news. I'm actually being sued by one of the parents from the San New York School shooting. Yeah, it's okay. General's name is Leonard Posler, his name. Wow. Okay, I think about it. I am, look at me, I'm actually smiling. I actually look forward to this. Okay, how many people get a lawsuit and they're happy, I'm actually happy about it. Because now the judge has ordered that I can take this person's deposition. Okay, and I can ask any questions I want to find out the truth. I now have a parent which no one has ever been able to do and that's going to happen on November 15th, 2017 at 1.30 pm late-cami Florida. So you get to ask him the questions personally. He is my witness and he has to race his right hand and the first question I already had when the lady, the stenographer, swears him in, state your legal name. Yes, I'm sorry. What's your legal name? And then we're going to go through all this stuff I've collected. I mean, I've got extensive stuff and I look forward to that. And I think the truth needs to be told and I don't understand why he's even suing me because his allegations are only two. There are only two allegations that he filed in the civil lawsuit that I posted his name, address, phone number on my website and that I intercepted. Think about this. I intercepted communication from him to attorney general, Pam Bondy to state attorney instead of Florida. Now, as a 70 year old man intercept. I mean, am I a hacker? Yeah, I mean, I can think I don't know if you even knew how to turn on the camera for the Skype today. I mean, no offense walk, but I don't think you could do it. But see the word that I intercepted it and then I posted it. And I send him the document saying that I received it through the Florida Freedom of Information Act. Everything that I post is public records. And this guy is only $55 million. So good luck. So to clear that up, so your current case is with Leonard Posner, his son, Noah Posner, died there at supposedly died at Sandy Hook. And so and his, this is something that I don't think a lot of people know, but his picture was actually shown at a Pakistan school bombing as well. Noah's picture. Yeah, let's see. I want to go into it. Yeah, you're ready out of my room. All I care about why no trauma helicopter. I don't care. Are you ready? I've been saying this to people. Do I care where the people died or not? I don't know. I don't care. I want to know because the school board members asked me to investigate right? Why no trauma helicopter? Why no paramedics? Okay. Who declared them dead? Were the other 600 kids? Why no lawsuits? Why did they not file any lawsuits in all of it? I mean, you got to be kidding me. We are a society that loves to file lawsuits. They didn't file any. The people who should have filed a lawsuit is the parents of that little girl, a first grade girl that came out of the classroom, was out in the hallway, and Lieutenant Ben Gally grabs her. Yes. And Shudder back in the classroom, eight where all those dead children are and teachers. You know what that did must have done. Number one, she's coming out of the classroom where she heard all the shots fired. She's in the classroom where she saw all of her friends, Shotten Gill. And she comes out looking for help and he pushes her back in that in classroom eight. And he tells them to get in there and don't come back out till it's safe. That Lieutenant oughta been sued. That Newtown police department should have been sued. Why did those parents not do that? Then you got two Connecticut state troopers going to classroom 10. What do they do? They find a little boy. Okay, first grader hiding behind the toilet with all the dead bodies. Now he's sitting behind the toilet. He hears the shots. He sees his friends shot and kill. And they tell him to stay in there with all the dead bodies and those parents don't file a lawsuit. You have got to be kidding me. And this is all on police record. See, what I'm saying to you is all documented in sworn statements. See, that's why I feel comfortable as a National School Safety Consultant. I read the documents. I study them. I use their words, not mine. Yeah, help me, Marty. Help me understand how you can leave those little children in those rooms. I mean, it breaks my heart just thinking about it. And if I was a parent and that was my child, I would be enraged. I mean, I couldn't even imagine a whole, you know, containing myself at all. If that was my child. That's it. And he'll have to get out there when I find that guy. If I ever found that out, you're going to take my little girl and you're going to shove her back in the room, A. And you don't, and here's the thing he shoves her in. He doesn't even bother the search to room to see the second suspect in there. Yeah. Yeah. This is all happening when there was supposedly a second shooter possible. There's been the second shooter. So he grabs her and he shoves her in there. Can I even check the room to see if he's in there? See, that's what makes me even more angry. He just throws her in there with all the dead bodies after listening. Can you imagine that girl heard a hundred some shots? All that blood body tissue, brain matter. You're going to throw back in that room and tell her to stay there and that little boy behind the bathroom toilet. You're going to tell me you tell him to sit there, stay there in that damn bathroom. After hearing all of those shots, you can. Something is crazy dereliction of duty on the princesses. There's a lot of empathy. Marty, that's who we are as people of this country. We owe it to other children who've died in school shootings. We owe it to other parents. We owe it to every parent in this country has a child in our public schools today. They make sure that they are safe. That they do have a plan. That they're not going to put kids at risk and leave them in those kinds of situations. And if they are left in those kinds of situations, we're going to file a hell of a lawsuit. We're going to hold you accountable. I don't see that. It's saying you who? It's not just me. I'm doing it for those who ask for my help. My thing about it, these people reached out. They called me. They actually had me become a keynote presenter when Columbine happened. I did the same presentation for all of the board members in Tampa in 2000. I mean, I've been there for different times. Every time there's tragedy, I'm asked to be their keynote speaker. So this was no different. Okay. The problem is, I cannot get them to answer me. And any other national school safety consultant will do the same thing. When you have tragedy unfold, you want to be part of it. You want to learn as much as you can. So when you become a presenter, that you can tell the truth on what they can and cannot do the next time. Okay. And Columbine, what is it that we learned that the SWAT team didn't go in for over three hours. Children bled to death. The teacher bled to death. I mean, and then there was a boy named Mark Taylor. You can Google him. Okay. He was shot seven times. I was trying to help him and his mother. Those parents all find lawsuits. Think about it. All lawsuits. Sandy, no lawsuits. Why? Something doesn't add up. One of the things I think I heard you mentioned that there's at least some evidence that the parents might have moved in within two years of the school shooting, like the majority of the pension. And then tonight, I think, I think this thing wasn't planning for like three to five years. Because you can see houses being bought and sold in all nine, starting in the old nine, zero dollar. Now I'm not into that. Yeah. It's just people sharing information. And it makes sense when you try to put it all together. Yeah. Because it's one thing to look at it as the and at the angle that you are, which is very strictly, we're not talking conspiracy. We're just talking about school safety. And then you get all of the other things that are around. That's really the truth. That's what it is. That's the misdirection and misinformation. Sandy, your chase in gene rose in, your chase in the houses, your chasing the medical examiner, your chasing all of these angles. Me, I'm only looking at the school. And what I can tell you, there is, there is a nice school principle in this country, I swear to God, that would ever allow his or her school to be so filthy, so deplorable and become a toxic waste dump. It had the highest level of that species. It had the highest level of lead pain. It had the highest level of PCBs. The ground water was contaminated under a teen tirescoot. What a parent in their right mind would have ever send their child to that and I mean, it was a toxic waste dump. And the one thing that really got me is in that new town documentary, there's a fly in from a drone or whatever and you're seeing these million dollar houses. I mean, these are pools and everything's well, the lawns are well manicured, clean streets, and then you take a look at the pictures of the school. When I said, I had no idea and then when I saw the pictures, I was like, there's no way children went to school here. What parent would send their child to that, how the dump was just a dump? It's a dump and you know, if you look at the mold, it doesn't happen overnight. It is like in months. You're talking about years. Yeah, years. But don't get me wrong. I think these people were slick and smart enough. I think they were 80 to maybe 100 kids going to that school. It wasn't all shut down because remember, the back of the school, if you look at it, it's pristine. It's called modular classrooms. And I think that's where they had the special needs children like autism. That's where they were teaching them in the back. Because the brand new carpet, brand new furniture, everything was state of the art. But there were no 600 kids in the front. That front of the school, they don't even have the right door numbers on the door. Yeah, that's incredible to me. And then, George, you're going to tell me you're going to walk up to the door, classroom knowing, classroom 11. See, that's from St. Donald Hawksboro. They send her up and make her look so bad. You know, if it was really true that she died that day, I feel sad. But I don't believe Donald Hawksboro is a woman, a school principal that would ever put her children at risk. That's why I bet my life on Donald Hawksboro would never allow it to happen. So what do we do? What can we do to help raise awareness? Can we start a petition? Do we hashtag on Twitter? No, I think it has to. If we want the truth, I've learned this as a being state truth. The truth can come in a court of law. You can't come in the state court. It has to come in the federal court. Okay. And I think that's where we should come together, unite as people who love America, who really care about America. And they do want the truth and they deserve the truth. And they have children. They should jump on this in a heartbeat because this can happen in their community. I mean, do you think that concern parents out there that might watch this? Do you think that they should ask for FOIA requests for new times? Absolutely. I know. Right? But anyone I would urge them and we'll teach them how to write them. Okay? But I think they should write those FOIA requests just like I did. And I think this should see that what we were saying, what you did and what I'm saying is the truth. And watch how this government is corrupt. And it's it is creating panic and fear across the country. Go to a public school and then you have fences. You have hard readers. I got you on the other side. You put an eye in there to get inside. We're building prisons. Public schools are safe. They are safe. You're never going to be 100% secure. Okay? But what you can do is reduce the risk. Okay? But you don't build prison. You don't ski the heck out of children. That's what we're doing. And we're starting in kindergarten, elementary, all of the high school. We got cameras and we cameras aren't going to stop the shooter. They we got cameras and banks and we still rob banks. Well, there were supposedly cameras at Sandy Hook too, right? But they weren't working or it's not worth, you know what's not worth talking about. Again, again, it's two years waste of my time asking for those documents. And I've only given to you. So what we do is we attack and we look at the truth. And the truth is one, we're going to get a deposition of a parent. We're going to learn the truth about Sandy Hook. Because it allows me now to call witnesses that should have appeared the first time, but now they're going to show up because I'm being sued by a parent. This is Aaron's hope. I was going to say because you know, I sat for several nights and I watched those, the FOIA request hearings and I mean, I watched a lot of that stuff. Probably most of it, I would say. And I got after watching it, I was like, okay, I'm watching Wolfgang. He's been through the ringer with the judiciary system. And I'm like, how do you how do you maintain like what's your opinion of the judiciary system now, the justice system? Is it in complete shambles? Because I mean, I don't know how you after watching that corruption, I would just my blood boils, you know, it's like, do you still have faith in that system? I mean, I sounds like you do. I don't know. I don't have faith in the, I don't have faith in the Connecticut FOIA commissioners in the process. I think when you're political appointees, you answer to those who appointed you. And I think about it, the chairman of the commission that was appointed by Governor Dan Balloy to study the Sandy Hook shooting member of the final report. He had a commission appointed and in the first two weeks, the chairman of this commission said to all of the members, this is the words that I've done that I have ever seen in my lifetime. Now, this is the final report they're giving them to the commissioners appointed by the governor. It's redacted. How are these commissioners are going to make a determination if they got a redacted report? Don't you think they should see the truth? And then the chairman says, it's the data though, but done make any sense. It has no index. It doesn't, it doesn't tell you what's in the documents. So it's to deceive them, just like they did me. And it's, I mean, thus far it's worked, right? I hate to say that, but I mean, absolutely because you're on the public sits back and does nothing. Doesn't nothing, right? Oh, let me tell you the system does work for them who are crooked because they know people are just simply afraid today. And you know what? I had two state troopers give me the script that was used by the new town police department. So what can I say to the police? You just don't recognize it. Okay. I see gotta be kidding me, but they won't release their names. They should, but they won't because they're afraid to lose their job, their family's going to be it. I get so many calls from police from all across the country, detectives, paramedics, EMT nurses in the emergency room. They all agree with us. Morning. They're there, but please don't use our name. This was this was one of the reasons I wanted to make this documentary and why I ended it the way I did. I wanted to spoil or do anything like that. But I wanted to reach, I wanted to present something that was extremely factual and I wanted to reach those in the military. What I call the good old boys, the law enforcement and get, okay, if you're quiet, it's no longer time to be quiet. It's time to stand up. It's time to do what's right. What is just and what is good and what you took an oath to do. And if you see that corruption, you stand up in the fight for us. So that was that was the impetus behind everything because I, you know, I mean, you're leading the charge. So that's what I really hope that this can help do anyway is hopefully get some of those people and possibly some of the people in new town that are involved in this to start talking. Okay. Just if we can get one of those people in new town to come out and say, the whole thing is a shame. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. You gotta remember, if as an educator, I've learned one thing, those 26 kids at the Super Bowl, they're gonna grow up. Yeah. They're gonna tell. It's just who we are. Okay. It's just like I tell kids, when I used to teach America, going to my classroom, I look 32 kids in my class, I said, one of you will wind up in jail. It's just, it's just a fact. Okay. We just love food. 26 kids saying it's a Super Bowl. One will tell. It will come out one day. It may not be in my lifetime. But what we're doing is we're setting the family. Marty, what you're doing today is you're going to part of history. You're telling a story. And you know what is what do people do with that story? Do you have the courage? Do you have the courage for the sake of your children, your grandchildren, their religion, the Wolf game? Have the courage just ask questions. File the FOIA request. See what happens to you. Look at the legal process. Are they going to do what they did the Wolf game? It'll tell you the story. Yeah. You have to start somewhere. And then it's going to go into federal courts. I'm telling you, I'm, I'm not stopping. Think of all those military people, all these people who worked all their lives to see what's happening to their country. I think they're getting angry. Yeah. See, remember, Bishop, you believe say any other kind of statement. Yes. You believe, yeah, because they saw the funerals. They believe that they were sold. I was hooked. They believed what they were told. But if they get to see the truth, they now will ask questions. I remember it's they like the match. Duke. I just want to say thanks for what you're doing. It's I really appreciate it. Both my lady and I have been floored by just the, you know, I don't want to loft a bunch of things on you, but you know, just integrity, ethics, morals, you care and compassion. Just, you know, they just emanate from your pores when I see you in addressing this. So I just want to say thank you for what you're doing. I appreciate it. Yeah. I hope everybody watches it. It's called dear Wolfgang, visiting Sandy Hook. And it's all about Mr. Wolfgang. Hell big here. Share the thing far and wide. I'll blow it to your channel if you want. I'm making zero dollars on this film. I'm making nothing I don't want to. I refuse to. But yeah, like as I said, most importantly, please send it out to people in law enforcement. The police, the military, get this video in hands of those people because we need to. Heretics, duties, promise, you know that. And I'm telling you, the more people touch it, the see you have a discussion. Talk about it. Okay. Anything. Talk about it. Okay. I appreciate it. Okay. All right. Hey, Wolfgang, be safe. Hopefully you survived the hurricane. We'll talk again. So say how you, lady. All right. Thank you.