WA State Measles False Flag - Lower Autism Rates Integrative Pediatrics

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co-author of the vaccine-friendly plan. This is one of those books that actually tells you how to spread out your vaccines, which ones are necessary. I have Dr. Paul Thomas joining me in studio. Good to see you. It's an honor, man. It's not an honor to be here. It really is. I say it over and over again, getting involved with the backs changed my life. Getting into, I'm a journalist, I'm hungry. You're always looking for a good story. This story blows my mind. And I may have left TV behind. I don't know if the lever takes me back, but I don't have a license on the line. I mean, one of the things that allows me to speak the way I do is, you know, there's people out there that support, you know, the work that I'm doing, but there's no license. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a doctor. You guys that are stepping up and really in this time, I mean, censorship. Your book's on the line, right? Are you worried about this, this, this, this, you know, joining those other books and saying, I honestly dealt with shocked to read on CNN business that Paul Thomas's book, The Vaccine Friendly Plan should be pulled from Amazon. Wow. And I'm thinking this is not an anti-vaccine book. In fact, that whole term anti-vaccine gets overused just so you can lump everybody together and tell, get this feeling like these are bad people. Right. I vaccinate every day in my office. We had this measles outbreak in Portland, Southwest Vancouver, Washington area. And in February alone, we gave almost 200 MMR vaccines and over 500 vaccines. That's not an anti-vaccine doctor. Right. I am doing my part to help the community establish and maintain some, what, some community immunity, if you will, you know, that's a debatable topic on most things. I would debate you on that. Absolutely. Well, with measles, our immunity is amazing. So we had this outbreak and there were initially a case and then three and then 49 cases. It turns out they were all from an initial case in Vancouver, Washington. And here's the story. OK. So I'm in my office a few weeks ago. There were 49 cases already proven in Vancouver. And we had just gone from one to four in Portland. OK. And I have a child come into my office who has cough, congestion, fever, and then a rash. OK. Definitely could have been measles. And they'd been at the Moda Center, which was listed as one of those places. OK. So my doctor calls the health department. Let's see how to get a sample to them. We'll make sure we're not missing a case of measles. Right. They told us specifically there had not been a single case of community acquired measles. The entire outbreak don't send us your sample. I'm like, what? Because the news, the same health department, is saying this is so highly contagious. If you don't, if you don't linger for two hours, anyone can. Nine out of 10 people exposed will get it. Well, there were 20,000 people in the Moda Center. There was the airport, IKEA, all these various offices. Nobody got it. Not one person. And you got that word from the highest authority there. From the actual health authority, the doctor, the health authority doctor. So what that told me, and if we look at the data, we know that the immunization rate for measles in the Portland and Southwest Washington is 95%. Way more than you need to be protected. I mean, back when in 1965, when we started the measles vaccine program, you would need about 60, 70% of the population to have had measles, and it wouldn't go through the community. So you'd have these little outbreaks. We all had measles. I don't know if you're old enough to have gone through that. But I was. Remember, I actually now have to, I still want to get my titers checked. I don't know what I had, but I did my mom was like, it's radicals. You would just say, you're just not sick. I refuse to accept that you're sick. And so that's how it works. But this measles story just, unfortunately, you guys had it with the Disneyland thing back in 2014. Now, now, Portland, Oregon and Southwest Washington were the measles folks, right? And then, state by state by state, they try to ram through mandates to vaccinate everybody because of the crisis. Right. When my experience, I mean, real live experience in my office, clearly there was no crisis. But across the country, Oregon's being used as this example of how these unvaxed people are putting others in harm's way. Nobody's died. And no, I mean, I have unvaxed people in my practice. I know the beginning of your segment, you were talking about that. We need to go there because I've got some very fascinating information for you. Yeah. So let's get into that a little bit. So you allow all types of people in your practice, right? How does it work? By coming to Paul Thomas and I say, I want you to be my pediatrician. I got two kids. I got a son that's 10 and a daughter that's five. And maybe let's have a new baby. Come on in. So prenatal, new baby, we're going to have the talk. OK. How do you keep your baby healthy in today's toxic world? You need a balanced immune system. If we highly vaccinate at a very young age and vaccinate while you're pregnant, it tips the immune system into autoimmunity and allergy. And now that's a problem. But don't worry. We have immunosuppressants. So we can. Right. Me on the rest of your life. You don't worry. Yeah. We can balance you back. We can drug you the rest of your life. It'll be just fine. Unfortunately immunosuppressants, the number one money maker in the country, tip you the other way. Now what do you get? Cancer and infections. So we want a healthy balanced immune system. How do we do that? And I go through it very quickly. Real food, avoid toxins, supplement with vitamin D, stress is a big thing to avoid. And the X factor beyond sleep and exercise and the normal things we know about biome is the vaccines. It's the biggest piece of the toxic puzzle. We have tons, tons. Hundreds of articles showing that over stimulation of the immune system when they're very young, immune activation, it's called. Trigger's neurodevelopmental problems. So the science is already there. We understand why we're having vaccines, trigger people into autism. But wait a minute. There's no link. Right. There's no link. So I was in this dilemma. I get approached by authorities and say, prove to us that what you're doing, your vaccine information, which I'm not anti-vaccine. Like I said, we're vaccinating all the time. Most of my patients vaccinate, but almost none of them follow the CDC schedule. The easiest way to explain that one is the hepatitis B. You catch hepatitis B from sex and IV drug use. That new baby you're about to have is not going to have sex or shared journey needles. And unless their mother has hepatitis B there. We're already tested for it. You've tested for it. I know you've tested for it. I go into see babies in the hospital and the moms are all hepatitis B negative. So why would we inject 250 micrograms of aluminum when the daily max for an adult of injected aluminum is 50? Right. So it just makes no sense. Make matters worse. We now know that babies who get the Hep B series as infants don't have protection when they're teenagers. 24. Exactly. So we're not only causing direct harm by overstimulating the immune system and injecting a toxin and neurotoxin aluminum. We're also putting them in harm again when they're sexually active. So clearly at least you shouldn't do that. But in Oregon and the states across the country, if a parent makes that logical, scientifically based decision, their kid can't go to school. Right. In California, you have to. But crazy. You can have hepatitis B and go to school. Go to school. But you don't have the vaccine for hepatitis B. You can't go to school. I mean, it's insane. It's insane. It's insane. It's really. It makes no sense. Clearly there's another agenda. Right. When things don't make sense, you've got to look for conflicts of interest. Yeah. But back to the story I'm told, I'm asked, show the proof. You're on the chopping block. So we got CNNs talking about you. Everyone knows there's you in Bob's years both have two different ways of sort of of talking about vaccination. I'm not going to get even to what the difference are. But there's really two doctors that come up on this discussion. Discussion. Right. So I'm asked, show the proof that what you recommend in your book is safe. Saffer than the CDC schedule. OK. Well, I thought to myself, and this was just a couple of months ago, wow. OK. Let's look at it. So I commissioned an independent quality assurance project. It's the only way you can do it. This guy who came in, Dr. Graven, he had no interest in any agenda. No, it's getting to the game. Not at all. He's a scientific nerd. Sorry, Dr. Graven. He really is. The guy's brilliant. He has set up health and formatic systems in 45 countries. Wow. And he did a deep dive into my data. And I said, just to begin with, find how many are unvaccinated and then list all the vaccines that everybody got in my practice who was born into my practice. OK. Because I attract so many families like your example. Sure. You got a couple of years. You got to get it. Yeah. So let's just do the ones born into my practice who get the advice that I give, which is informed consent, urine charge. Here's the risks, the benefits, and the alternatives for each vaccine. It turned out he found 3,345 patients born into my practice in the last 10 and a half years. So this is just a perfect sample size. Let's look at the outcomes. I said, look at their vaccines, every single one of them. And let's just start with autism. That always seems to be the elephant in the room. Sure. Right. So he looked at it. Here's what he found. There were 715 with zero vaccines, unvaccinated, out of those 3,345. One case of autism. OK. All right. A rate of 1 in 715. Right. We're currently at around 1 in 36 or 1 in 55. And then which study are looking? I actually personally think that the 1 in 36 in New Jersey, because the other ones were doctors really are mandated to sort of report the autism. There is a lot of under 30 too. There is a lot of under 32. So we're somewhere I think in the 30s. But go ahead. So 1 in 715, Dr. Graven said, Paul, this is real world data. This is amazing. He was shocked. Wow. And I had no idea what we're going to find. I mean, I had a clue because my patients are so incredibly healthy. Yeah. We got two waiting rooms sick and well. And there's hardly anyone ever in the sick side. And my well side is just overflowing packs. I'm like, this is different than how I used to be when I practiced. Well, what about the others who were vaccinated? So we got 2,645 partially vaccinated. They got anywhere from 7 or 8 vaccines up to about 16 or 18, I think was the most. Most kids this age would have had somewhere between 25 to 40. Got it. They're slower. Those patients mostly followed the vaccine friendly plan. But I do want to clarify for your listeners, because I'm not promoting the book. I'm not promoting the vaccine friendly plan. I'm just sharing data. Just data. This is just data. Just what they found. There were six cases in those 2,645 for an autism rate of 1 in 440. Wow. Compare that to 1 in 40 or 1 in 45. This is a 1,000% improvement. What would that mean for real life Californians? We have about 400,000 births a year in California. And if you reduced the data of autistic kids, we would be saving 9,000 cases of autism every year. Just in California. Just in California. Wow. In the country where we have 4 million births, we're talking 90,000, almost 100,000 cases of autism per year being spared if you believe this data. Right. So sometimes I ask, well, what do you think? Do you believe it? I don't know. It's real life data, as Dr. Graven said. He says there's nothing more powerful. It's more powerful than a study. Right. Because this is, I saw the beginning of your program. Your tell what we need is a Vaxed Unvax study. Well, this is fairly randomized. I mean, in Plotkin keeps saying randomize, these are just people that randomly are coming in. They're coming in. And in fact, and they live in Oregon. They live in Oregon. You can't say you can't compare the people living in Arizona. We might have some difficulty there. Well, what I'll tell you actually, Dell, is when this data gets an IRB, I mean, this was just a quality assurance program. So it's not publishable. I'm just sharing it because it's so important. Very important. But when an IRB is done and the data is deep dive into this data, and the data is secure, so there's no way they can get rid of it. It's secure in many places. What they're going to find, the research is that finally look at this data, is that those 750 unvaccinated are the highest risk of all. And here's why. So in my practice, you came in as a new family. If your other two children, you had autoimmune issues or autism, we're going to say, you know, you're at higher risk for damage from vaccines. You may want to think about just going with none. All right. So we don't have more of the people in that group came into your at a higher risk level. And you still are at 1 in 715. Yes. So that's amazing. So it's amazing. This is a very high risk group. I suspect we'd be more like 1,000 or 10,000. If we had a just low risk population, like most people. So anyway, the data is extremely powerful. And I totally agree with you at the beginning of your show, we need more data. Yeah. Dr. Paul is not saying vaccines cause autism. But he's sharing data that seems to be. You're showing us a signal, right? This is a strong signal. This is a strong signal. It's a very strong signal. And when you talk about science, you've got to look for the signals. And they're trying to tell you there are no signals. There is no debate. Your data alone and Mossons data that we, the Vax v. is on Vax study. This is really happening. This study is all over the world. It's coming up with the same data. And that's why I'm demanding a Vax v. is on Vax study. Go into the BSD, open it up. And not just, you'll go in there and try and manipulate it, put a bunch of sick kids in there. Do a decent study with both sides represented. I'd love for you to be on a panel like that. Absolutely. You know, to be on a panel, people say, look it. I don't have skin in the game. But here would be how you do this study in an insensible way. I want to clarify one thing for your listeners, because if people go out and buy the vaccine friendly plan and they implement it, buy the book, they're going to have worse numbers than the one in 440. Here's why. In addition to following that program, if that's what you choose to follow, if you're out there thinking, oh, this is a good thing for me, make sure you don't have a lot of auto immunity in your family. Make sure you don't have a lot of neuro developmental stuff like autism that just puts you into a much higher risk. So all those that used to be on Vax, they get together? Yeah, those would be in the unvaxed. But the Vax side where we had a 1 in 440, it would be way worse than that if it weren't for another thing. So this is why I want to just clarify this. Please do. People will just blindly follow this. You're going along with the vaccine friendly plan or doctor sears approach or some slower approach, which is probably a wise choice. And your child starts to have some delays or what I call glitches. I've had one this week that was starting to flap. They were brilliant in every other way. Find motor, gross motor language, even eye contact with some of their starting to flap. Or maybe they start losing some skills, a little bit of loss of eye contact, a little bit of loss. You stop. No more vaccines. That kid just gave you a signal, a very strong physical signal I'm having trouble. My immune system's having trouble. And that's why I think we got away with being able to vaccinate as much as we did. The vaccine friendly plan protects against everything you would need to worry about that could kill your kid. You're protected against pertussis, hooping cough. You're protected against the meningitis, the hip and the prevenar. And we can go over each one of them why they're not such great vaccines anymore. But that's out of the scope of this. But just if you were going to follow that, I beg you that if you're starting to see anything in your kid that as a parent, your gut's telling you something's not right, listen to your gut. And don't do anymore. And you'll probably will have a good outcome. That's phenomenal. You sit here, but you're talking. I'm thinking, oh my god, you're digging your own grave here. I mean, I swear to God in the climate right now, I'm thinking the things you're saying are so disastrous to the pharmaceutical industry right now, aren't they? Well, if the CDC is saying there's only one way to do the schedule, any other schedule is dangerous. And I've said it open over again on this show that the Institute of Medicine has already said we've never tested the CDC schedule. It's a bully on test and schedule. Every time they add a new vaccine. So actually yours is more, I think you actually are the only test and schedule based on what you've just said. We now have data. We now have data. We now have data on this schedule versus this. And the CDC's never bothered to do this so as far as I can tell. No, they haven't. But as far as you raised this question, I should be afraid or whatever. You know, I admired you what you did. You had a great career. I mean, you were running the doctor's show. No, I mean, where is it over there? I got any more. That's pretty good. And you gave it up because you saw in your heart there was a need here that was just screaming at you. Well, imagine I'm actually seeing these patients in my office. What woke me up was four years in a row, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, a normal one-year-old in my practice regressed into severe autism. That didn't happen in the past. There were no autistic kids in my life growing up. They didn't teach us a single class on autism in medical school in the early 80s. There was a couple of mild cases in my residency program in the mid to late 80s. And then something happened. I mean, it's just been like rocket, right? And as we add more and more and more and more toxins, more and more stress on the immune system, it's not just vaccines because I had one right out of the 715. It is possible to have autism. It is possible to have all sorts of medical conditions. But what does it keep to be healthy? Healthy, balanced immune system, eat real food. Vaccines for like toxins. Vaccines are not helping the picture, right? So you may get a little bit of increase antibodies against what you're vaccinating against. But there's hundreds of other diseases. And the highly vaccinated people, their immune system is not as robust and able to fight those other infections. The people say, oh, Dr. Paul, your approach, you're going to put everybody at risk. No, it's the opposite. We're going to have people with better immune systems who are going to be sick less, taking less illness into the schools because the question always says, what about that poor cancer kid? They're on chemotherapy and they should. The other thing I'd like to know, what the cancer rate is the most thing on vaccinated. Because it very well could be that that cancer is already a vaccine injury, whether it was coming through your mother, a D-Tap vaccine. I wouldn't be surprised because they messed up a new system. And do I see a study? I'm going to go ahead and say that that very well may already be a vaccine. You might be right. But if it's your kid who has cancer, you want your kid safe. But here's what I'll tell people just to remind them. When you're going through chemotherapy, you're not going to school. You're not going to the grocery store. Not when your immune system is completely shut down. Your oncologist will tell you, keep this kid home. A cold will kill the kids. Absolutely. So it's not those unvax kids because actually they're healthier. They're going to bring less illness to your cancer patient, your child, than the vaccinated kids, who could be shedding live virus from a vaccine, or tend to be sicker. So that whole argument, I'm sorry. I know the infectious disease experts are always floating that and testifying. I've gone to testify against mandates. And that's always what I'm hearing. And tears and crying about the kid that they took care of. So I have taken care of kids who have died when I was in training. I've taken care of kids who died of infectious diseases. The hips, the hips, the big one always here. Right? I've watched them and died. And it was a great vaccine when it first came out. Hemophilus influenza type B. Guess how many type B hemophilus infections there are today in America, almost none. They're all non-type B. The vaccine is against the wrong strain. This is what's happening with most of our vaccines. The organism shift. But because the vaccine manufacturers have no incentive to improve their vaccines. A liability. No liability. And what? HHS isn't doing a job. Nasty, too. And dated profits with no liability. So we keep injecting tired old vaccines. They're almost worthless. And overestimulating the immune system. It's tragic. And we don't need to be causing this much harm. My fellow doctors, it's first no harm. And it's hard to wrap yourself around that. You're hit around that because we don't have good data. We have study after study after study that you started. Don't buy the pharmaceutical industry. Don't buy the pharmaceutical industry. And when you're reading it, it's so obvious. They are association studies that are so weak that there's no association. So therefore, vaccines are safe. No. You have to compare the whole schedule with the unvaccinated or even with the partially vaccinated and see what happens. So I started a nonprofit for a pediatric health outcomes initiative.org. OK. And that is the nonprofit with the sole purpose of doing prospective studies that will compare vaccinated to unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. And it's not unethical because we're just following what parents are choosing to do anyway. I can't talk those 715 patients into giving a vaccine if I wanted to. Right. And oftentimes, I will encourage people. Yeah, go ahead and do it. If they don't have any risk factors and they're nervous, they're not sleeping about the measles that's in town, even though I now know it wasn't a big scare. But before we knew that, we didn't know. You get attacked from both sides. You get attacked from people that are strictly anti-vaccine. How could you be giving vaccines to your children? So I'm going to ask you that hard question for all sides, because I want all sides represented on the show. How do you still give vaccines knowing what you know know? OK. I really believe, Dell, that we have to honor people where they're at. So everybody who went from, you're not born anti-vaccine. You're born not knowing nothing about vaccines. And most people were educated that vaccines were wonderful. And then at some point, their eyes started to open. And their minds started to open. They started to realize we've got a problem here. And I went on that journey. And you might have, most people have. There are people who lived in a family that didn't vaccinate. And their parents were informed and knowledgeable and kept on top of it all the way. So they were true and true anti-vaccine from day one. But most people go on this journey. So if you come to me, and here's what's really tricky, I've got one parent saying, I don't want to vaccinate. And I've got another parent saying, no, we need to do them all. This is the science. And if I can help them pick a safer schedule, I think I've done a service to that kid. Because if I can get people to just not do the hebi, to not vaccinate while you're pregnant, the outcomes are going to be way better. And then if I can get people to recognize, if your baby's showing any sign of delays, whatever it is, or glitches, hold off. Stop. Don't keep just rolling as if it's no big deal. Right. So many people say in that circumstance, the pediatricians, oh, that's normal. Don't worry about it's normal. So the other elephant in the room is, what if nobody vaccinated? There's a big question. Yeah. The big fear of the public health systems. What if nobody vaccinated, we'd go back to the dark ages. Well, let's think about it, how dark would it really be? So let's go through the vaccines. Hepatitis B, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. Seriously, I mean, you could do, help me for teens if you want, but it wouldn't make a bit of difference. Polio has been eradicated. It wouldn't make a bit of difference. Road of virus, you can't even give it after six, nine, 12 months because it makes older kids really sick. The data from my practice showed kids who got that vaccine. We're actually having more vomiting and diarrhea than the kids who didn't. It won't make a difference. Plus, I mean, that's the third world, don't let it have that dangerous. Exactly. Not in a modern country where you have access to IV fluids. In the last 10 years, I've had one child need to have IV fluids for road of virus. And that was a school-aged kid. It's not going to make a difference. Measel's mom's rebella gets tricky. So, before we introduced the MMR, we were having about 450 people die of measles each year in this country. Let's say we go back to that. Yeah. We just won in 10,000, I want to point out. Sounds like a big number, but that's 1,000, 1,000? 1,000, 1,000, 1,000. When we introduced the Chigampok's vaccine in 1995, they had to justify it on pure financial reasons. There were only 50 deaths per year. And that wasn't enough to justify the vaccine. So I guess in the public health mind, there's something between 50 and 450 that means that, oh, 450 is huge. Huge, huge, oh my god. But there is this financial thing too. When we start to look at the, when we start to realize, once we get these better Vax to non-Vax studies, and we start to realize that the chronic health problems are very significantly impacted by our vaccine program. Now you start to realize you're killing people with asthma attacks. You're killing people with allergies to peanuts that didn't use to happen. People are dying of suicide because they're so anxious and depressed. You've got the autism, the spectrum, the on and autoimmunity is just through the roof. It's probably largely vaccine-induced. When you look at the magnitude of that, and what if that reduced to 5%, 10% of what it is now? And you had 450 died a year. It's saved far more lives. Oh my gosh. So if we're going to look at the horror of people dying of measles, we got to look at the beauty. I would still question whether it would even still be for 500 people now. I doubt it. I doubt it because we've got to be understanding that vitamin A helps and take it as beta-carotene. And I agree with you. I don't think it would be near that. We get 450 moving on. What are the other ones? So what's left? Chickenpox. So chickenpox used to kill 50. We had very little shingles. Now we have 100 desperate or more from shingles. And everybody's getting shingles. We traded a relatively minor illness. People always had. I had, you had your kids all had, for something that's horrible. A lot of pain and suffering and more deaths. So that's, yeah, we could get rid of that. Don't even get me started on things like HPV, which other countries have figured out that this is a very, very dangerous vaccine. They don't even recommend it. For a problem, we don't actually even have. That could be the body. If you have a gynecologist, you don't even have an issue. The HPV vaccine, we really haven't proven that it's doing anything good. Because that virus, the body eliminates anyway. And it takes decades to develop the cancer. I said this just hit me that nature had a 90% efficacy rate against HPV before the vaccine ever came along. Meaning nature clears it from your body. There's very few vaccines that have a 9%- And you know, if there are 45,000 deaths a year from that cancers that they think are caused by that virus, we don't know that the vaccine is going to significantly improve that. But honestly, we don't have the Vaxed Unvaxed. Again, long-term proper placebo. The DPT is the one that scares everybody. Did they get tetanus and pertussis? Well, we get one case of diphtheria every other year in the US. It's been eradicated. Tetanus is actually only a handful. There aren't that many cases. We just had one hit the press because they were in Oregon. So what's up with Oregon here? Yeah, totally. I actually saw that kid. To leave the hospital, they wouldn't let that kid out of the hospital unless they had a pediatrician. They didn't have a doctor. They were from a farm. I said, I'll take care of you. And so I saw, it was a devastating case. But he lived. And there are so few of those. I'm not saying, oh my gosh, the sky's going to fall. But no, the sky won't fall if we don't do that one. What about the pertussis? Hooping cough. So here in California, recently, you had a school with 30 cases of hooping cough. All of them fully vaccinated. Totally. Completely vaccinated. And there were unvaccinated kids in the school who didn't get it. That vaccine isn't working anymore. Right. It's almost worthless. 80% plus of the pertussis, the hooping cough organism, is protect and protein negative. And I believe the vaccine was made against the protect and protein. I don't even know what that means. It sounds smart. We want to like. It's just some technical stuff. But whatever. It's not working. In fact, I used to recommend cocooning. So you're going to have this baby you're going to have. And I'd say, well, you should get the pertussis vaccine, the T-dap, and all the caregivers. So you don't bring pertussis home to the baby. Well, we now know that doesn't work. Because people have been vaccinated are still shedding the virus. They're still carrying it. They can also carry it. They can get it. They cannot know. They can have it. They can't go out there. So that's not working. So we're not going to lose anything if we give that one up. Hepatitis A. So as a pediatrician, I'm one of the busiest pediatricians in Oregon. And I have seen zero, I'm saying zero, none, cases of hepatitis A in my entire career. Oh, we should rush out and vaccinate, though, because it's really epidemic on the West Coast. Never seen one case. Not one case. Why? Well, we miss it. It happens. The immune system takes care of it, and you get better. Kids don't get super sick and turn yellow and die of chronic hepatitis. It could be there. It's just passing through like another virus. Have I left any out? Prevnard. Prevnard hid the meningitis ones. Because the organisms have shifted, they haven't got the vaccine to keep up with the organisms. They're not very effective anymore. So really, it wouldn't make a huge difference. But like measles, there would be some deaths. And that's the thing. If it's your child who's died, well, Dr. Paul, you don't care? No, no, no, that's not it. It's horrible. I've been with families who've lost kids. It's horrible for you. But I've also been with families who've had vaccine injured kids. And that's horrible. So where is the balance? We need to stop finger pointing and you darn non-vaxxers. You're causing this and you, vaxxers, are causing this. We're all in this together. We all want the same thing. We want healthy kids. And we need to quit pointing fingers and insist on the data. Agreed. And so let's compare those two groups like you have with your, I mean, that's really astounding data that you're bringing to us for the first time. I mean, just you just called us about to say the day. I'm really psyched. You made it in. Paul, keep up the good work. Thank you, Del. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, absolutely. Is there any way to put like a chastity belt around your license? Like you just hold on to it, like strap that thing down, lock it up. You know, I'm way from it. I can't. Well, there's some famous quote. I should be better at this sort of stuff. But you guys will know whoever's watching. If you witness something and you don't do anything about it, you're part of the problem. There's a better way to say that. I think that got the message coming. Right. I mean, you just like you doing what you're doing, me doing what I'm doing, I don't have a choice. Yeah. Right. I don't have a choice. So, you know, if you want to fault me for telling you how it is, well, I have nothing I can do about that. I'm not going to stop talking. All of our prayers are with you, Paul. Keep up the good work. Thank you, Del. If you liked that clip, then be sure to check out our live broadcast of the High Wire every Thursday morning at 11 a.m. Pacific time. You can watch it on Facebook, YouTube, iTunes and Twitter. We'll see you there.