RV Truth Livestream Podcast W_ Special Guest Astronauts Gone Wild Bart Sibrel

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If you believe, it might have been a man I've been, man I've been, baby, there's nothing I can't say. Nothing's for me, there's some sort of walking little staffer. All right. Thanks everybody for joining and once again with special guest from astronauts gone wild Bart Sabrell. Thanks so much Bart for joining me today on my my channel RV truth. And again, thanks so much and please. Bart, you there? Yeah, I'm here. Sorry. Yeah, no worries. No worries. Bart. Yeah, go ahead. That quick introduction, let you jump right in into your production of astronauts gone wild. Of course, a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. Of course, that was was your first production. And let's get right to it how you basically got involved with all this and your, you know, your belief in Jesus Christ, the Bible. And we'll go from there. All right. Well, I just wanted to say hello to everybody out there like you. I'm also a fan of RV and what struck me recently is I'm sure everybody out there who's a listener of both of our channels suspects. If not if they don't know already that this whole Republican Democrat dichotomy is just artificial. The powers that being want us to fight each other so that we don't unify and go against them. It's amazing. You talk to people and they think there's only two, you know, fruits or vegetables in the produce department that there are more ways of thinking ideologically than just two. You know, and so it's amazing how this battle between allegedly Republican Democrat conservative or liberal, whatever you want to call it. People a lot of people buy into that. And so the conspiracy group or the alternative media group. And so the most of them see that as being, you know, divisive by the powers that be so that we won't all get together and unify and attack them. The true enemy of the people of this country and the world. But what a lot of people don't see is even among the conspiracy group, the alternative media group that there are divisions. There was one person who was following my channel. And as soon as I said, well, I just not convinced that the earth is flat. I think it's a sphere. They, you know, unsubscribed and things like that. And so when I first heard about RV, I realized that this guy has incredible insight. The things that he picks up on about the luminati symbolism and things and so forth are so incredible. And you know, there's nobody I know who is right all the time about everything. There's a guy who has a health alternative media website, a highly respect. And he's right about most things. But I think he's completely wrong about the coronavirus. And the problem is he has started insulting people who don't agree with them, calling them basically stupid, less intelligent. And simply because we don't see things the same way. And you know, I originally heard about RV by me by his video questioning the authenticity of astronauts gone wild. And when I watched it and I actually only watched it all the way through a few weeks ago. And that's when we started our contact. There are parts that that he thought were absolutely real. And yet he wondered how I got access to all these people. And I kind of wondered that too. I could go into an explanation of that in a little bit. But basically, you know, RV and I, even though we disagree about the shape of the earth, that's virtually the only thing we disagree about. We believe in God. We both believe that the Bible is the Word of God. We both believe that Jesus is a Messiah. We both believe we're in the last phase before the Messiah returns. We both believe the moon landings are thick. We both believe the United States government is corrupt. We both believe the Illuminati Pope, Deep State, whatever you want to call him, control the world. And I'm sure there are many other things that we agree upon. And what I realized, especially as a believer, is that we can't have a dispute. We could find the scripture. I could bring it up. But it says, I think it's a second Timothy. Don't dispute about words and meanings. Unfortunately, for us, geography exam is not part of taking hold of eternal life. You know, neither is mathematics, neither is understanding science or the coronavirus. You know, the main thing that you need to do to accept eternal life is simply repent of your sins. Don't go back to them, become a new person. And the blood of Jesus will take care of all of your past and future mistakes as long as you can continue in sincerity. And that's the main thing. A lot of people out there are fans of the Simpsons and their creator also came up with a program called Future Rama. And, you know, the Bender character to me is really funny. And there is one episode in particular where he's calling his co-workers, meat bags, mortals, because he's a robot he'll live forever. He says, if I run over by a steam roller, they just pop out of my memory cartridge, pop it in a new robot. I'm good to go. And then his owner says, oh, I'm sorry here, Bender. But you're one of the first models. You don't have a removable memory cartridge. So when you die, that's it. And he says, well, how long have I got? And he says, well, you know, maybe only a million years. And then he's like, and then what? And then the Bender said something very profound. He says, anything less than immortality is a complete waste of time. And that's what we need to realize. We can debate the shape of the earth or even who killed JFK or the moonletting's real or not is Noah's Ark, you know, on top of Mount Errat. And certainly the coronavirus and all those things point to wicked entities controlling the world. But the most important thing that RV and I can talk about is eternal life and making sure that every person listening to us takes hold of eternal life. Absolutely, Barton. I agree 100% and and that's the thing is just briefly, I want to explain to people, you know, Barton, I have course before doing this live stream. We had about, I don't know, maybe an hour conversation covering any topics and finding out we have so much in common. And again, the one thing that Bart mentioned is one thing you don't agree on is shape of the earth. But I did also state and I said in podcasts before the shape of the earth will not save your life. It's important to me. But in the big scheme of things, you know, if you believe in the flat earth, but you deny Christ, you don't believe in God, it's not going to get you far at all. So that's that's where we stand on that. And again, this is not going to be a debate on on flat earth, ball earth, anything like that. It's we're going to cover many more topics. But one thing I will jump in and say is I do believe the whole purpose of the moon landing was to get that image of the ball or and that's the whole reason behind it. That's my view. You know, as far as as as Bart's, you know, your concern, Bart, as far as your belief on why they faked it, you can have you have your own opinion on that. But one thing I want to get into is, you know, again, you mentioned the deception with politics left and right divide and basically split the country 50 50. It keeps the eyes off those that rule and of course, I was busy fighting each other. And I think that's a huge aspect where I always say this, Bart, and everybody else listening in, he goes the biggest enemy of truth. People don't once people are down a certain path. It's very hard to turn around when they're involved in politics. For example, if you're a liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican, whatever the case may be, once you're down that path, it's very hard to turn around. So yeah, I've been deceived. I believe in these creep politicians and and you know, people can't let people can't go there. So that's that's the main thing about truth. There's a very hard a path to go down because they're right down a false path in this worldwide system. Well, I think that why Jesus said you have to be like a little child to enter the kingdom of heaven because a little child is like, I don't know how to fix this door. Show me a child is teachable. And the Bible says that God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. So I thought one day, RV, I said, well, what what would I say the definition of pride is? And to me, pride is simply the unwillingness to be wrong. And humility is the willingness to be wrong. You know, I went to this one church and I thought, well, this must be the closest church on earth to God because every sermon was, you know, 90 minutes, they quoted more scripture than any other church. They show different translations. They had an answer for everything. But I realized it wasn't necessarily the right answer. They prided themselves on having an answer and one time the preacher asked, he says, who here likes to be wrong? And I was the only person willing to raise my hand. And they're like, well, why do you like to be wrong? I said, well, number one, I'm no longer walking around in error. And then number two, I'm learning something new. But they you can never teach anything new to these people because they had it all figured out already. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing is it's always say this is it's okay to come to new conclusions based on new solid information. But the problem is most people, they're just stuck and they're like, again, I don't want to be wrong. And they're just going to protect their paradigm. And that's that's the major problem with people is, again, ego and you said it pride. And that's that's the downfall of many people is that pride and not believing. And I said this. And so many podcasts, but it's worth repeating about, you know, with the creator, creator for us, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds and grains. These things perfectly supplement us. How can this just be some amazing coincidence that we came from this explosion from nothing. And we have all these things that are just perfectly for us that sustain us and myself, being 46 years old, never been in the house of my life. Thank God for that. You know, keeping, you know, eating things the most natural form, less cooked as possible. Don't kill your food and just knowing that God created everything for us. And that's why I eat raw cows, you know, it's kind of big. It's very filling. You know, that's kind of why I'm waiting. I'm just teasing there. One thing that came up in our initial private conversation, you know, a few weeks ago, was that we both agree that God originally made mankind vegetarian. I mean, how many people see the eye to eye on that? It just blew my mind that, you know, RV and I saw so many things are common, including that. Because I remember with the one of the first Bibles I read, it was a study Bible. And it said right there under Genesis 129, which is I give you every seed bearing plant for your meat to both you and the animals and the inside of a sunflower kernel was called the meat of the sunflower. And then the note there said all theologians from all denominations agree that God originally made man vegetarian. We have the teeth of a vegetarian that digestive tract of the vegetarian. And then it says in Isaiah twice and two chapters that when the Messiah restores, eat in the perfect earth, the line will lay down with a lamb and each straw like an ox. And then there will be no killing of any kind on God's holy mountain. Now you may think being a vegetarian is, you know, crazy or too green for you. But then that's the very division that the devil wants you to think, you know what I mean? I mean, to think that you have to be liberal to be vegetarian, you know, I don't know who came up with that or why that on that side of the aisle. And then there's the other, you know, fruits and vegetables in the produce aisle that you can have many theologies. It doesn't just have to be Democrat or Republican or liberal or conservative because sometimes it's appropriate to be conservative. And sometimes it's appropriate to be liberal. You know, so depending on the situation, I agree 100% and that that's the big thing is, as you mentioned, the part is the original diet being a vegetarian diet. You didn't say, oh, by the way, you need to take a vitamin B supplement, you know, everything is in there and this fake science that we're being taught. Oh, you know, it's, they try to throw that in there that, oh, you need your missing this. Well, there's, there's foods actually natural foods like buckwheat buckwheat grouts that do contain a vitamin B. There are, there are these foods that do contain everything. So everything we, we need is contained in God and that's the big thing is they try to make a better apple bark. They try to make a better better pair. Well, God made everything perfect. So they're trying to out do God and they can't. And this is the Bible. I think it's Leviticus 19, 19 or thereabouts. I do not crossbreed species says it right there in the Bible. Do not do it. And the interesting thing is if you break God's law and you do it, the offspring is sterile. If you take, I think it's called a donkey and a horse to get a mule. The mule is sterile. Every time you want a mule, you have to make those two animals again. And apparently the same is true with seed when Monsanto starts taking, you know, eel and putting it in salmon, you know, which is an unclean food according to the Bible in a clean food. That should tell you something right there that these seeds become sterile. You have to keep going back to Monsanto to buy their GMO season. You know, it's not a coincidence of vegetarians live seven years longer. You know, and you don't have to be a vegetarian to be saved. However, I believe it was God's original plan. I believe the Bible says that's the way it will be again. They'll be no killing all animals want to live and be alive, right? And enjoy life. So why not if possible go for that ideal now? Absolutely. Absolutely. And that that's that's a huge thing is definitely in the Bible like you stated part it was original diet things have changed. But I always look at, you know, of course, you know, thou shalt not kill, you know, and basically that that that's the original diet that's was pertains to is not not killing animals. And that's the thing is to people like the go to restaurant. They'll have their steak or the go to McDonald's have their burger wrapped up in this nice piece of paper wrapping, but they never for for a second really think about the poor animal that was killed. That's how I see it. That's how I look at people don't like truth. Most people don't like truth. Truth is a, unfortunately, a divide as well because people have been brought into this world like system, the satanic world system. And it's very obvious. They're hitting us at every angle bar with Hollywood, the music industry, the segments, here's the big thing is you hear a lot of atheist. They'll say things like don't push God on me. Please do not push God on me. And then you'll see them throwing up devil horns and pictures and going to rock carrencers like say AC DC or deaf leopard throwing up devil horns again sticking out their tongues or the Bible says don't stick out your tongue. He's type of thing. So they don't realize while they're telling telling everybody don't push your God on me. They're serving the false God, you know, everything. I'm sure you'll agree everything is a religion. I mean, you either believe in the God who created the universe and you and me. And according to the Bible, this conversation before we were born. That's how clever God is. It says in Psalm 139, every day of your life was written before one of them came to be. And at the same time, we have free will. It's this incredible paradox. So, you know, five times five. There's only one answer. There's only one right answer. However, there's an infinite number of wrong answers. So God created the universe. I believe God word is the monopoly rules for this game of life. If you want to call it that. And that there is a judgment based on those rules that Jesus is the only way to heaven. And you can come up with a million other ways to say you can have eternal life, but it doesn't make them so. You can say 26 is five times five or a million at 26. They're both wrong, no matter how close you are to be in right unless you get it exactly. You're not right. And then, you know, the scientists believe evolution and most of them simply believe in evolution to not believe in God. They don't want to be after size. And then God, so all they're left with is evolution, but they were there when the beginning happened. So it takes faith to believe that things created themselves. I mean, that's a big leap of faith. If you ask me, I mean, a card didn't make itself a watch didn't make itself. And even a chicken didn't make itself. It had parents make it right. So and then if you get here's the interesting thing I saw this film by Stephen Hawking who believes in, you know, evolution and the very beginning of it based on his book, you know, the opens up with the question, which came first the chicken or the egg with interesting thing is they never answer the question. So then I thought I saw then one day are the sentiments of, well, let me think about this. Which came first. Now here's the thing. If an egg came first and nothing was before the egg, then that means there's a creator. And if a chicken came first and there was nothing before the chicken, then that means there's a creator. So regardless of which came first, it means there's a creator. And then I called up the evolution department and my local nationally recognized university talk to the top professor and evolution. And I said, which came first the chicken or the egg and there was this dead silence. And then he thought for a moment, it says, OK, the egg came first, but it came from an animal that itself did not come from an egg, which means a mammal proceeded an egg laying creature, which is the exact opposite of evolution. So the guy into the question completely wrong and you realize that that film in that book, it quotes Einstein, it quotes Newton, but it never mentions that Einstein Newton and Da Vinci, they all believed in God. If they'll it quotes them as if they supported, they twist the truth. They quote these three big scientists and inventors and intellects as if they supported evolution when it's clear. There, the record shot that a whole heartedly believed in a divine creator. And yet they quote them in this movie of evolution to somehow trick people into that they supported it when they did not. Yeah, absolutely. There's always twisting things, you know, changing history to basically coincide with on their agenda. And that's what's happening. This world light system. And when the Bible says, you know, Satan deceives the whole world. This is very literal. People have to understand that. So a big thing about me is is people have their Bibles. They read themselves. But I show through video demonstrations how what the Bible says matches in this world, this world deception that's happening again, the divide white versus black, you know, all the religious divide, you know, men versus women, you know, I believe the pay scale was purposely purposely set where men get paid more than women just to create a divide. Blue, blue color versus white color every which way to divide it. So definitely this is Satan's game and unfortunately very successful with this with the system we're born into. Obviously they teach it in the schools that we came from monkeys and all that's nonsense. So it's, you know, right in front of a monkey's if that's what they believe. The Bible says that that eventually the world becomes so wicked that what is wicked will be called good and what is good will be called wicked. And that's exactly what we're seeing here in the last times, you know, yeah, absolutely. And that's the whole thing is with me is what really got me when I was younger is is, you know, believing in a crater, but there's a huge contrast from what the of course the schools teach in the in the bottom what the Bible says. And it doesn't of course a mesh and there's a lot of confusion with with a lot of people that attend church, you know, once a week and they go to school, then what happens a lot is once a lot of the youth enter say high school college they unfortunately they turn from a believer's to atheists and I've seen this happen. And why it's called university universal thought units X that it's all about programming. In fact, I live in a town that just the name I live that that just opened the restaurants right as long as you only see every other table is like that. So the waiter comes up and he's wearing a mask, you know, surgical mask and I'm not and I say, well, what do you think about this Corona stuff you think it's real and he goes, oh, yeah, it's definitely real. And then he then he boasted as to why he knew for certain it was real because I'm in the education system. I didn't because I didn't want to pick a fight with the poor law soul. And I was what I said, you mean the brainwash system and that's why you're completely wrong. I mean the the the evidence that I used to support that he was right is the very proof that proves that he's wrong, you know, yes. Yeah, I had a late from someone today it talks about how Taiwan I didn't know this Taiwan right next to China. Right has more almost the same number of visitors from China that the United States does did not lock down the society, you know, I mean think about it. They're actually quarantining healthy people isn't that the exact opposite of logic. And and yet they had only six fatalities and then someone sent me a clip from someone from I guess that the state of Illinois, their health director saying admitting if you're in hospice care already on your deathbed. You know what I mean. Yes, you died during this epidemic, they call it coronavirus death. And if you, you know, we're in a car wreck and you happen to have the coronavirus and yet you've died from loss of blood. They're going to call it a coronavirus death at which means even the numbers that they have are probably 400% greater than they really are. I mean, maybe more than that that anybody who's dropping dead normally during this time, they're virtually labeling everything a coronavirus death, whether it's true or not that health, the director of Illinois admitted this on camera. Yeah, that's that's the thing is is you know, it's like everything else, you know, this whole world being to see that includes obviously people in the medical field, you know, for example, dentists pushing fluoride because that's where they're taught the CDC pamphlet say it's safe. These are, you know, they're just going through the same system we did, but they're going through a different angle supposedly being professionals, quilt professionals in their area. Here's the big thing is again getting back to what I said earlier about how I know we know there's a crater. He created everything we need. And basically, you know, all these cancers, they were unknown until the early 1900s and it just coincides with the release of the cowpox vaccine where this one day, or this one doctor stated out of 200 patients that died from cancer none of them, you know, none of them were they're all unvaccinated. Yeah, 100 years ago are they 100 years ago in America, I think it was one out of 400 people have cancer. Yeah, now it's one out of three now that's because society and science and technology has improved right. That's the thing is the mind. That's the thing is bar if we came from an explosion from nothing we're just this cosmic accident, there's no crater then we're going to need to supplement it with vaccines in these medicines that have they might supposedly take care of one issue, but they have like 10 different side effects and that's the whole thing is and we all know everybody's body chemistry is a little bit different. Someone can, you know, everybody's amuses maybe not the same depending on many factors, but the bottom line is they want to make us believe we're again where this cosmic accident we're going to need these things. We're going to need these medicines we're going to need these vaccines when I've always known as a crater and again this is really important to emphasize is this when people get sick then they run to man may medicines where you never improve basically you're getting the pharmaceutical industry that the hospitals are getting rich off days of supplying them with money and basically you're just you're just waiting to die spending your life savings on this on this slow death when. When actually if if people understood you know food is medicine you know you're not going to get healthy by by eating medicine healthy by a proper diet. Yeah, 50% of all Americans are on a pharmaceutical drug and the pharmaceutical companies are the richest companies in America and they finance virtually every university in the country. So when I went to my doctor and I was getting my physical and I asked her get this are we I asked her well what do you think about natural medicine you would a swore I asked her what was happening on Jupiter she had blank look on her face like and this is what she said I'm paraphrasing but it's very close to word for word well I went to college and I just prescribed what pill they told me to prescribe in college that's virtually what you said word for word. So that this symptom I give you this pill that's what I'm trained to do that's what university universal thought in the same thought people go in believing in God they come out three quarters of them not believing in God I talk to a professor at a major university I said okay what if you saw Neil Armstrong confessing tearfully on national television that the moonlightings are fake would you then accepted and he said no. I still think they were real now this is a teacher a professor and aerospace at a major university he thinks he knows better than Neil Armstrong that that's not ultimate brainwashing I don't know what is. Yeah, it's just unbelievable that's again pride being the big ego once people think they have a good grasp on things and you tell them no you're wrong you've been deceived they rage they get angry they get upset and a lot of times they they don't provide information they they get the insults and they call you all you were a tin foil hat you're a crazy man or you're uneducated when they don't realize they've been indoctrinated in this lie system and well more people believe what what I believe so I must be right that kind of thinking you know so I always say this Barton everybody else listening and of course if you fall in the crowd this world you're going in the wrong direction. Exactly on the wrong way I can't but that's what astonishes me these two you know fairly consistent fairly truthful alternative media sites I don't even want to mention their names because I don't want to insult them. However when they started you know jumping on the corona virus bandwagon repeating with the mainstream media was saying I just couldn't believe it I'm like how can you how can you criticize the mainstream media 99% of your entire you know 10 20 years existence on the web criticized the CDC 99% of the time how corrupt they are how much they they skew figures they lie about figures they lie about science and then all of a sudden you're quoting them you're quoting the CDC you're quoting the media you're going by their statistics I mean when they were allegedly landing on the moon they had data of the fuel consumption going by oh my goodness they only have a hundred gallons left and now 99% of the time they're going to be in the middle of the world. And now 99 and a half and they had the altitude the spacecraft to they they had all that fake data you know what I mean yeah it boggles me that people think numbers are real and that what the mainstream media says is real. I mean people out there who are listening have seen those clips where they repeat the script word for word whether it's about a Christmas story or about whatever they're repeating the script word for word and you look at the lower right hand corner it says CBS. It says CBS it says NBC it says ABC it says Fox. Now I believe that the CIA has purchased all the major media all the telecommunications company I believe they own Google Facebook, Twitter those are token CEO they own AT&T and all this remember they passed the unpatriot act in order to make illegal deeds legal that's the way these able people work. They walk to somehow justify to themselves and their lawyer like mines that their crimes are legal so not only do you have to check the box in order to have these services that we both use and almost everyone uses and if you read the fine print it says we have the right to scan your emails I think that's another word for read so not only do we give them permission right then they actually own the company they own Yahoo so they are not going to be a real man. Yahoo so they own the hard drives and that means they have it's their property anyway and they have a right to inspect their hard drive so the idea you know that there's a free press has a bit of free press which means the fact that there's not a free press that's a violation of the law because the Constitution says we are to have a free press that that is part of a healthy government. But we don't how can it be free when all networks are repeating the same script word for word they have the exact same story the exact same point of view how can that be free when it's controlled by corporations and controlled by the central intelligence agency I mean all you have to do is study the JFK assassination for about 60 minutes and it becomes crystal clear that he was killed by the CIA and that's the CIA who runs the country. And how can that be legal I mean the guy who started it true man I think said it was the biggest mistake of his presidency but they have become above the law they can do whatever they want they they acknowledge it's a legal fact they send out assassination teams to kill world leaders who are democratically elected that's an established fact and yet no one does anything about it that's the CIA having their own army now I thought that was controlled by the CIA. It's controlled by the commander in chief but that's not the case it's a proven fact and no one does anything about it then William Benny the work for the NSA for 30 years says they listen to the NSA the CIA listens to the telephone calls of presidents congressmen senators and Supreme Court justices in order to blackmail them with the skeletons in their closet in order to affect national policy that's an established fact. No one does anything about it and I only had a revelation only about a year ago during the 50th anniversary of the alleged moon landing on being interviewed by HBO and it dawns on me why why is no one doing anything about this the CIA killed the president has their own army you know the during the last election one of them even threatens a candidate be careful what you say against the CIA because they can mess you up right and their own employees say they do not have any evidence of the CIA. Blackmail Supreme Court justices by spying on their private phone conversations that's an established fact that nobody has gone to jail over no indictments no trial and I'm thinking well why and I think it came to me RV it's that no one is willing to die anymore for what is right you know after massacre whether it was you know the continental fault or the visiting armies fall whoever the point is they said they they had enough that's it I'm willing to risk my life my wife's life my children's life my property because what you're doing is wrong and now everyone gives into blackmail everyone gives into bribery everyone gives into threats and the only cream that rises to the top is corrupt because godly people don't want to have anything to do with it and it leaves us a bunch of evil psychopaths running the world because no one is willing to die. I'm going to say I'm going to die for what is right anymore and to tell you the truth RV when Bill casing first asked me to do a documentary about this is as hey Bart you're a filmmaker you should do a film about this well I studied it for about six months the shadows intersecting to the three astronauts don't give interviews the Soviet Union was more advanced and all the other stuff and I'm like you know if I start overturning these rocks and I'm a relentless puzzle solver I could be risking my life so I turned it up and I'm going to be a real man. I'm going to do it now I called a bill and I said this could be dangerous I'm not going to do it five years go by and then on June 3rd 1989 the day the guy stood in front of the tanks in China I started reading the Bible and after reading the Bible three times all the way through I still wasn't a Christian but I realized there is a God there is a judgment there is right or wrong and I'm going to die anyway I might as well die for what is right because if they think that's right I'm going to die for what is right because if they fake the moon landing that's a profound event in human history and that the people controlling the world are wicked and being not held account for it and I said this is worth dying for I changed my mind five years later called a bill we started doing it and we had an investor who put up a million dollars who's a board member for an aerospace company building rockets from NASA who knows they can't go to the moon today much less 50 years ago and he saw we got access to all these astronauts they charge two thousand dollars an hour for an interview and then I thought just like you thought well why didn't they war each other why didn't the CIA war in them they're listening to my phone calls and I think because most people in the government are sincere our patriots it's only the top leaders who are corrupt and they discuss them that they fake the moon landing therefore they didn't war in the astronauts and the astronauts didn't war in the other out there they didn't war in the other astronauts who got caught because they were simply too prideful and embarrassed to admit that they had been second into an interview you know Well, Barlow me the main interject here I would say you know like I said you know people that see my videos on the topic of you interviewing all the astronauts Yeah, it's a possibility that hey, you know, I just been had I didn't expect expect Bart to go to their fellow astronauts and do the same that's a possibility I definitely that's something that do do the shame but but definitely you know the position I want to get into when they're going to mention to before you carry on I have a different perspective everybody knows that falls much you know on JFK and many of these of these so called leaders I believe they're part of it type of thing and that's the whole of the subject but I want to get into the whole the whole basis of your interviews and what went on prior we all see what happened of course what I'm what I'm prior you said you've been contacted and have a set up you first you put on the shelf then you agreed to do it then any consequences following the backlash follow up like say a threat of lawsuits or any of that sort well now I mean when I there were two astronauts Alan being and Buzz Aldrin who got so mad that they both kind of especially Buzz Aldrin virtually admitted twice on camera when we had an interview because my company of the time was called ABC digital he thought I was with ABC news we had two camera there professional lights mics security guard and I showed him the window shot of faking being halfway to the moon which he filmed and he thought the story for a few minutes had broken worldwide and that's why he said oh and this makes you a real famous person from discover this what an ego you must have to want to become successful in your career like this how could I become you know well known journalist and be boost my career if I'm wrong but that's an admission that I was right and then he said we were just passengers And I'm like, well, I thought you were the pilot there. You know? We're going down there. And then he tries to, but then when he realizes, hey, maybe the story isn't working, breaking worldwide, then he threatens to sue us if we showed those two admissions to the public. And I'm like, take us to court because we'll get 12 people. And we'll show them the window shot. We'll show them intersecting shadows that are claimed to be filmed in sunlight. We'll have filmmakers proving that that was shot in a television studio. You want to go to court? That sounds like a great idea. So when he threatened it and the other guy, admit you'll threatened it, they immediately backed out because that's the last thing that we want to do. Let's go further expose them for the treasonous liars that they are. And one thing I'll say is, and I did say it is during my videos, when I was questioning the whole thing that went down with you in the astronauts, is I still appreciated what you did in confronting them. And yeah, they got obviously very upset. You actually got physically, you got punched by Buzz Aldrin, which you obviously didn't fall down after he punched you. It looked like you didn't affect you at all. Maybe I'm wrong, only you could answer that. And also kicked. And I forgot which one was it? It wasn't LMB, which one was it that actually a need you? Well, that would be Ad Mitchell. I mean, right after that, right after. I mean, the guy can't go five seconds without lying. He says, I don't hit people. And the five seconds later, he hits me when my back is turned through. And as a guy has this reputation of being a piece of guru, you know what I mean? Yeah. And another reason to know that UFOs, we could talk about this in a minute, you know, another reason that proves that they're fake is because he said that they're real. Yeah. Exactly. And the blue light needs a real. He said, UFOs are real and I'm like, oh, okay. Now I know they're fake. You know? Absolutely. And we had a wireless microphone on. You know, that costs like $400. It works for probably half three quarters of a mile. Christopher Clear. I had a cameraman who was inexperienced. He took the camera. We were being kicked out literally, violently, cursed that. Kicked. So we grabbed the camera. It's still recording. And the wireless microphone is still on the astronaut. My cameraman puts it in the back of the rental car without stopping the tape. So it's still recording, which we were recording the audio from the wireless microphone when they went back in the house. And that's when the sun says to his dad, hey, you want to call the CIA and have him wax? You know, burn. And so get this. The Bible says, if an unrighteous person throws a curse on a person who's in the right, it will fall back on them. And so the guy who said, you want to call the CIA to have me killed, he died of cancer a couple of years later at the age of 26. Wow. That's one thing I didn't know. Well, that's, that's, that's, I don't want to use a word almost like karma type of thing, but don't want to. But the Bible says if you dig a pit, you know, and with evil intentions. Yes. And if you throw a curse out with evil intentions and will fall back on you and you yourself will fall on the pit. That's what the Bible says. Yeah, definitely, you know, saying those words is, I mean, that's, that's definitely a threat. But of course, you know, even with that airing, you know, the ones that run this world, you know, certain people can get away with it. And I thought, you know, that's what I was looking at. It was, it's, you know, people making these threats. I'm like, wait a second, this is being aired. And, and you know, what's being done about this. But nonetheless, you know, just everybody out there to understand is, is, is Barth's giving his perspective. You know, many people know, I made a couple of videos on this on the subject with, with Barth, a confirmed the astronauts, you know, like I said, it's no secret Bart knows that, you know, I believed that maybe someone within the government said, hey, we want you to punk these astronauts, basically confront them. And, you know, because they have big egos. It's like when it comes to free masonry, they have this ritualistic initiation, where it's humiliation. And they continue that in public with the roast. So I always looked at it as like, look, they're getting barred over here to roast these astronauts. They've never been in space. They've never achieved anything. And we're gonna, you know, bring them back down to Earth, so to speak and give the teacher my lesson. Don't be so arrogant, cocky for, for you guys acting like you guys are big shots. When you basically didn't accomplish anything, and we're gonna send Barth to basically a punky guys. That's how I say it. I mean, I got to say about that is, you know, RV is an incredibly perceptive individual. However, a lot of talents are double-edged swords. And you can be overly conspired to him, I did, you know what I mean? Because tell me, I've only suffered because of this film. I was kicked out of a church after I got punched by Buzz Aldrin, they said it was bringing, you know, disrepute to the church. My family disowned me, you know what I mean? I lost tens of thousands of dollars in video gigs, but I got known as the filmmaker who said we didn't go to the moon. And, you know, I've had at least a hundred death threats from this over the years. I have personally been kidnapped and drugged with true serum, with soon as I found the secret tape of them faking it right in front of your eyes with the CIA, you know, telling them, you know, how to do it to talk on that track. That was taken from me in 1999 after I was drugged and kidnapped. I escaped. All this is in my book coming up in maybe four months on Amazon called Loon Man. All this backstory I've never told anybody before. And this may be the first interview I've even suggested all this happened because it did happen. I took my urine to a lab to prove I'd been drugged with this true serum and trust me. They don't need to waterboard people. The only reason they torture anybody is revenge. You can bribe a psalma bin Laden's mother a billion dollars. You can print that. She'll turn in one son to save the other nine. Or you can give them true serum because trust me, when they gave me this drug, I first I threw up, it was so strong, started seeing spots before my eyes. And they had a clipboard full of questions pre-prepared and I answered every single one of them truthfully because in my hallucinogenic state, I thought they were the good guys. So I escaped, I urinated in a little jar, I sent it to a lab. Okay, get this. I call back the lab a few days later and I say, well, what are the results? And there's this dead silence. And then they say, this are the, well, something has happened. And I said, yeah, well, tell me, he said, well, we had a break in over the weekend. And the only thing that was stolen was your urine sample. Wow. We say because it was some exotic drug that could be traced to the intelligence community, you know, the true serum or whatever it is. They didn't even want me having the print out of that, you know what I mean? One thing I want to jump in here and say this bar is, is this is why I really respect you coming on my platform. Everybody knows again, the videos I made and your stand up guy coming on here giving your side of the store. Of course, there's many sides to stories. There's the one and then from everything you said, all the abuse you took, death threats, losing money. But again, I want to get back to the foundation. You kind of touched on it before a little bit. But as far as you, who exactly contracted you to basically sponsor you to do this? Because you mentioned how it costs a lot of money to interview these astronauts where it was a two, was you say, how much does $2,000 per how long? Well, I mean, an astronaut will give a sit down interview for all of them have the same price. I could some standard rate of $2,000 an hour. You know, God always provides. And I guess it's fair to say, I felt the vitally inspired to make a funny thing happen on the way to the moon. Again, I originally turned down the project because I thought it could be true and that it could be dangerous. Five years go by. I started reading the Bible. I became convinced that there's a war between good and evil and that this moon landing fraud represents part of that war that I'm gonna die anyway and I'd rather die serving a just cost. So I changed my mind and started to do it. I met a gentleman who was a multi-millionaire who ended up being a board member of an aerospace company because he's just, you know, genius IQ. And he knows from an engineering point, the lunar module is a joke and that they, in no way they can't even go to the moon today, he said. So they certainly couldn't have gone with 1960s technology. And so he's like a patriot. We kind of had our own little, you know, the project, both films took about 10 years to produce at the cost of a million dollars and we always equated ourselves with the founding fathers. I was always the John Adams, the agitator, the one who spoke his mind and offended people because I wasn't polite when I shared my point of view, tried, I'm working toward that. I'm trying to be a little bit more of a diplomat nowadays. But he was kind of like the John Hancock. He was the financier, the rich man, who financed the American revolution. And so he wishes to remain anonymous but he's a very good person, you know, a maculant integrity and like I said, so much connected to the aerospace business, he's a part of an aerospace company building rockets for NASA board member and that he knows, you know, it's a big time game and that even people, even fellow board members are totally convinced the moonletting's are real and he can't believe that they think they're real and they can't believe that he thinks that they're fake. What he thought it was his patriotic duty to finance the film. And so after we finished the first film, I had the idea, I guess, from watching courtroom dramas, you know, as a kid, hey, why don't we just track down these astronauts and see if they'll swear on the Bible. He thought the executive producer of a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. He thought it was a great idea. He paid for all the travel, all the astronaut interview fees. He paid enormous private detective agency fees to track down these people, to track down the astronauts where they live, their phone numbers and things like this. You know, most of them didn't want to give interviews like Michael Collins. You know, I mean, it's really weird if you think about it. Two of the three people on the first, you know, historical, great event of mankind don't want to be interviewed about it. Don't give interviews except on rare occasions, including Michael Collins. So we set out outside of his house in Florida, you know, for like four hours. And we did the same at Neil Armstrong's house too, you know, and we followed him. We wanted to get him in a public place. We followed him to the local, like, drug store, you know, doing a little shopping on the weekend. And that's where we confronted him in the parking lot. So he financed and then some people like Alan Bean, you know, want $2,000 an hour. They love blabbing about it. They have no problem, you know, getting the best seat, you know, in airplanes. So they love being known as this to me. I would feel incredibly guilty. There was one astronaut James Erwin from Apollo 15. And when Bill Casey, you know, wrote his book, we did not go to the moon. And first appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show. He was kind of the head of the spear of we didn't go to the moon. You could say, I, that was kind of passed on to me. And I'm that person now, maybe. But he was the one at that time most recognized for that. So apparently James Erwin from Apollo 15 had a second thoughts about what he had done. And in August of 1991, he tracked down Bill Casey. He called up Bill Casey. You imagine my surprise if while we're talking here in my phone rings, and it's one of the Apollo astronauts calling me, well, that was a full casing. So, you know, in August of 91, James Erwin tracks down the moon investigator and says we need to talk. He said the following. I have become a born again Christian. And we need to have a serious talk about the content of your book. He said, I'm afraid for my life. Will you please call me at this particular number three days from now? And on that day, the astronaut had a fatal heart attack. Wow. He was the first and the youngest of all the astronauts to die. We know that wasn't a coincidence. So that means Bill's phone and or the astronaut's phone being monitored. And so that's what I have to live with. You know what I mean? With that time, I found that the tape that proves that it was a fraud in my mind, and most people's mind, you know, I had a toddler son. I had a blind roommate. And I thought, you know, we'll never know for sure. There never be any proof, you know, in my lifetime. When I was wrong, there was proof. And you can imagine my horror, when it dawned on me, I had proof that the moon landing were fake in my house with a toddler son, a blind roommate, and no security precautions taking whatsoever. And it was shortly after that, that I got kidnapped and drugged and so forth, because they wanted to know who had copies of the tape, where they were and so forth. All of this I talk about in the book, Moonman, which will hopefully be out in about four months, additionally. Since this time, and it'll be in the book, someone has come forward, OK? Who confessed on their deathbed that they were there at the time the first television fake moon landing was being filmed. He told me the name of the base where it was filmed. He told me the dates it was filmed. He stood beside President Johnson while it was being filmed, holding some of the television cables. He gave me a list of 15 people who were VIP visitors who are allowed in that military base inside those two airplane hangers that they put together. All of this will be my book. I have since called up a couple of the people on the list. And to tell you the truth, Ardy, I was afraid to do so. I feared for my life. There were some good guys in the government, good people, good forces in the world, who instructed me to make those calls anyway. Apparently, they're tracing who they call after I call them if you follow that. Got it. So one of the people I called up was Eugene Krants, right? And I called him up. And the phone answers, but he doesn't say anything on the other end, which is kind of an odd way to answer the phone. You don't even say hello. You wait for the other person to speak. I didn't say anything. He hung up. I call back a second time. And I say, Gene, and he goes, yeah. And he says, and I'm paraphrasing, is this about the satellite telecom conference with Surnin? Apparently, these guys have private military grade, scrambled video conferencing equipment in their private houses. And then I didn't record it. Maybe I should have. But I believe he said Surnin. Is this about the, he thought I was a technician calling him to say, reboot your system or hold down the green button and unplug it because they're apparently having technical difficulties with some video call when I called him on the landline telephone. And I think he said, is this about the satellite com teleconference with Surnin? Well, Surnin died two years ago. And I called him last year. And it's like, maybe Surnin, Eugene Surnin, is not dead because I met most of these Apollo astronauts. He was the healthiest of them all. He was like, looked like a runner. He was in great shape. Well, the thing, Bart, is any of these people, I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them, their liars and they continue to lie in everything. So one big lie, they're lying about everything. So I don't trust, and I hate to say this, getting back to JFK, he's the one that said, and I don't mean to derail what you're saying here, but JFK is the one who said we're going to land the moon before the end of the decade. And they saw up in a land just prior, six months prior. So I look at JFK as someone that was a very clever deception. You have your own, we can have our own. This thing is, we agree on 99% of things, but I always look at all from people like Trump to JFK, to Obama, all these people as their puppets, and their puppets. It's clear that the president of the United States has not the one running the country. That's absolutely absolutely, but he's fully aware and the way the way I see it is, this is the connection I make because I make a lot of connections, Bart, with before Trump was so-called elected as president, New Gingrich went on Fox News and gave this whole spiel about how he's a black sheep. He's not a free-masoning, big part of the rights, and that's part of the deception. JFK talking about secret societies. We have to remember the whole JFK thing was filmed by a third-degree free-masoning, Abraham's Zapruta. There's a lot of things that don't make sense, but I don't wanna get into that. I just have the perception that the most powerful man in the world, so-called most powerful man, in the public eye being the US president, the most powerful country, they're definitely gonna have these people under their wing. That's my thing, we don't have to agree on that. And definitely it's not an debate, but my thing is we know there's puppeteers to everything that's happening. And getting back to what I see, I see many photos of JFK walking side by side with Werner von Braun, the supposed godfather of NASA. So I always question that. I always find it interesting to bark from other others in. I find it very interesting how Star Trek came out in the late 1960s, 1966, I believe. And it was canceled because it served its purpose of basically it and the public ready for a so-called space exploration. It the last episode aired a month prior to the moon landing. So this coincides with social movement. Pick up where it left off. I did a commercial once about my movie. I found it happened on the way to the moon. And I'm paraphrasing with the narrator said at the commercial, but it's something like, what is science and fiction? And it's the moon landing. You know, it's a little bit of science, a little bit of fiction. And that's what I, yeah, that whole thing, the Star Trek, that was to plant the seed in people's mind that travel as possible, plausible, easy, or whatever. But I mean, it's amazing, you know, with 1960s technology, they allegedly went to the moon eight years after the goal. Here in 2015, they said in 2018, they're gonna have the Artemis spacecraft or Orion, whatever orbiting the moon. And they can't do it. There are five years later, and they can't even have an unmanned vehicle orbit the moon. Yeah, and yet, it's better technology. I mean, Bernie, I'm sorry, you know, it's funny though, is you have, I have video clips of William Schatter, of course, Captain Kirk from Star Trek. He was asked by astronomy.com during an interview to convention, his involvement in science fiction and his involvement also in science. He was asked directly, what's your perception of science and science fiction? And he goes, and he simply says, there's no difference. They're both the same. This is William Schatter speaking about the science science fiction. And he also went on to later on and to play an astronaut. And this is a moon dollar man, a few years later after Star Trek went off the air. And I don't mean to throw this in, but I'm throwing it in. But he put an astronaut in with his face, he was asked, what does he see? And he goes, gentlemen, I see Earth, and it's flat, flat as a table. So just a little funny thing they threw in there with the producer Kenneth Johnson of the $6 million man. He also produced a V to series. So there's a lot of interesting connections with that as well. But that get off too far off topic with this whole thing, but there's a lot of connections when it comes down to it with NASA in Star Trek, for example, the so-called Spatial Enterprise. It was named after the fictional Enterprise from Star Trek. So how does that happen? You have the whole entire crew from the TV show up here in Florida. I keep an owl for this unveiling of the Spatial Enterprise. So there's a lot of connections with, again, so-called science and science fiction. Yeah, I mean, again, we should be, I guess, summing up soon. I was gonna try to see how I can log a comment on here. I'm not sure. Let's see private chat, live comments. I don't know if I can even believe it comment here. But I'll send you some links if you don't mind. Sure. Any of them in the description of the YouTube video when it's posted, because it looks like it can't even type in a comment here. Well, you could do the private one. I'll definitely highlight it. Yeah, if you just want to hear, here, let me post this. I'm gonna put this in the private comments. Just copy and paste that in the regular ones if you could do that. I want to remind everybody, I see some questions going by or need to wrap up. What do I think the moon is made of and what are my three globe arguments, whatever. We're not gonna debate the things that we already know we disagree with. What we do agree with is there is a God, there is a Messiah, the end of all things is near, the government is corrupt, and that you have to repent in order to be safe. That's the main thing, and this is why I want RV to share this link. These are really simple, straightforward Bible studies. I want to share, here's the thing, I was taking an acting class, might have that kind of theater, filmmaking, writing, things like that. And I remember for some reason, I was pretty metaphysical, 16 year old. The only books I had read were about Einstein and the theory of relativity. And a person in that class, a woman said, Bart, you should read the Bible. Now I was a writer, and so I had the dictionary and the Bible, on my shelf, just in case I needed to look up something. She says, you need to read 1st Corinthians 13. So I remember that, 1st Corinthians 13, okay. So I go home, I pull out the Bible, it's like 2 inches thick, 2,000 pages, I have no idea where 1st Corinthians 13 is, but I open it up, just guessing, right to that very page. And then the next time the Bible comes up as I have a Christian client in my filmmaking business who says, I'll give you a favor, I'll give one of your scripts to this famous movie maker in Hollywood. If you do me a favor, read the Bible. About a one year Bible, I started reading it June 3, 1989 and five years later, even without being a Christian, I had read the Bible five times all the way through. And that would be the one thing I would say, the listeners out there who haven't read the Bible. Just pick it up, start with the book of John and the New Testament and read it to the end. I shouldn't take you that long. When you finally see the Bible, see unfortunately the Bible gets thrown into the same box as hypocritical corrupt religion. And so any preacher on TV who's molested people or stolen money, people associate the Bible with that, but they're two completely different things. And I believe the Bible is the rule for life. And no matter how many preachers or how many religions or corrupt the Bible is what it is. And when you read it for yourself, you'll see it's pretty straightforward, it's pretty simple. You know, God is a God full of mercy. And I know from having a few misdemeanors in life and parking tickets that I tried to argue about in front of a judge, I was always surprised that the judge was more merciful than I expected. And so God would be even more merciful than that. But if you think about world history, all the unsolved crimes, all the unsolved murders, all the unsolved, you know, corporate, you know, embezzling that goes on, can you even remember one time in your entire life where a person who was at large, they got away with murder, they got away with robbing a bank, they got away with embezzling money for some big corporation that they turned themselves in voluntarily out of a, to have a clear conscience in life. I don't know that that's ever happened. I don't know that that's ever happened once and my memory that that has ever been broadcast on the news. But that's what you have to do in order to be saved. You have to read the Bible, go with the creator's definition of right and wrong, not your own, because trust me, every sin that a person wants to do, that's the very part of the Bible they say is a mistranslated, you know. I want to jump in, I want to jump in and say this because I have a lot of people that get upset when I, for me being a Bible believer, say, oh, it was written by Freemasons, I'm like, look, they didn't write anything, they just, they've been translations, but what I'm getting at is this, I do not believe that God would put us on earth and have us make up our own rules. And it does say in the Bible, question all things. I did question, I did question, but I come back to, I don't believe a creator would throw us, or not throw us, or put us in this world and just make up our own rules as individuals, what's right and wrong. And that's my stance, people can believe what they want, but I'm gonna go on that route and definitely, I think people are making a huge mistake and that's the thing is, you said it, Bart, where people want to make up their own rules, they don't want, they reach something, oh, I don't want to, I don't want to go by these rules, I'll just throw the Bible aside and live what I live, how I choose to. And that's what it comes down to. Yeah, I would just share that link that I sent you. It's just really straightforward Bible studies and Bible studies about like who is, the beast of revelation or what is the mark of the beast and things like that, really simple, but very interesting short Bible studies. And that's the thing, you have to turn yourself in. You have to confess your sin to God or to people who you have wronged and then just live a new life. That's what it means to be born again. It means to change your ways. And the thing is you're gonna die anyway. So if I had to take one scripture out of the whole Bible, that to me stands out the most, it's a Mark 836, it says, what good is it that gained the whole world and forfeit your soul? You could own the whole planet, you could own every continent, every building, every business, every skyscraper, all the emeralds, all the gold, you could have concubines, you could have all the money, you could have anything, but you'll eventually gonna drop dead and then what? The all of eternity compared to a glorious life on earth is simply one day. All your life on earth is simply one day compared to eternity. And anything less than immortality is a complete waste of time. We could talk about the earth being flat or spherical or what the moon is made of or the challenger, are they astronauts, still alive or not? I saw that question. Or are all these school shootings and all this other stuff going on? What it really matters is personally, have you surrendered to God? Have you read the Bible? Have you repented of your sin? Because that's all that's gonna matter. Do you make it or not? Jesus says, why does the gate broadened the road that leads to destruction and most are on that wrong path? Narrow is the way to life and only a few find. Anyone talking to the pagans, we were talking to the religious people who already had the Bible. I agree, Barton. That's one thing I want to really emphasize for anybody that's joining in a little bit late here is, I mentioned earlier for anybody joining in late is this is not a flat earth ball earth debate. Barton, I agree on many, many things, 99% of things. No two people agreeing everything. We're not gonna turn this into debate. So people that are talking about flat earth, yes I'm a flat earth, they're a barge knot. But this is not gonna be discussed. I'm gonna make a lot more videos. I'm gonna have my own solo lives and we could talk about it there. This is not the time and place for it right now. And again, just wanna emphasize that. And definitely, Bart, what you're saying about the belief and what it comes down to, again, flat earth versus ball earth, the world deception, I truly believe. There's a lot of people out there that talk about the Bible, but I truly believe, speak about the Bible, the truth of the Bible, and also show them the deception that's happening in our real world. So they're not only reading from it, they're seeing it actually taking place. And that's why I come in the satanic deception. There's an upside down pentagram, of course, over the White House, all the devil horns that have been incorporated in society, Donald Trump doing the 666 hand sign, of course, the public means, everything's a-okay, but they have their own esoteric meaning for things that people have no idea what they're doing. So what I'm getting at is, I think it's a really good combination, Bart, of you speaking and me speaking, where everybody plays a part in the truth. And you're definitely a Bible-based