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30-Year Pilot: It's Flat! by Paul On The Plane
30-Year Pilot: It's Flat! by Paul On The Plane ( Short version )
Pilot Interview: Brisbane to New York flight over Alaska edit/cut by Flat Earth, Banjo, USA, Japan and Brazil
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Pilot Interview: Brisbane to New York flight over Alaska
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This interview was conducted by Paul On The Plane 3 months ago and covered Aviation, Vaccines and 9/11. I have edited out Vaccines and 9/11 and in this video you will find just the AVIATION part of the interview. For the full interview, please visit and subscribe to Paul on The Plane.
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- Category: Conspiracy Realist ,Experience,Flat Earth Theory/Not Spinning
- Duration: 39:45
- Date: 2019-04-01 15:55:53
- Tags: flat earth, pilot, paul on the plane, brisbane, new york, alaska
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Video Transcript:
cheek. Welcome to the latest edition of Paul and Plain Live. Here on Truth, Frequency Radio, it's another Flatter Truth Tuesday, as I like to say, and I am your host, Paul, on the Plain. We are continuing tonight with a series of interviews I've conducted with professionals in the Flatter Truth community and the empirical evidence and firsthand experience with these proofs that they have that our world is nothing as advertised. Not a spinning, orbidding, corkscrewing, salty, space pairs, I like to say chasing the sun in over a million miles an hour, no, a fixed and stationary plane. Just a quick reminder, this is a pre-recorded show as I'm traveling overseas. So I won't be able to take any calls tonight still. I hope you enjoy the show. So tonight, my guest is a gentleman who, for the sake of anonymity, we're going to call him Zach. He has a wealth of knowledge and experience in a particular field that, in my opinion, has just a chalked full of Flatter Truth evidence and downright proof that our world is flat and fixed. And that is air travel. So without further ado, Zach, welcome to the show. Very much appreciate you taking the time to visit with us and share with us some, what I would again consider, hard evidence that the world is not a blight's fearoid or whatever and that is rotating or orbiting. Good evening, Paul. Thanks for having me on your show. Very, very, very glad to have you here and hear about some of your experience here and what you've learned in many years of air travel. So let's start off by just establishing your credibility. Would you mind just taking a couple of minutes and letting us know about your education, your experience? Obviously, you can leave out any specifics. But just in general, your experience and expertise with this profession of yours. Okay. Thanks, Paul. Well, where do I start? Okay, I started flying. I got interested in aviation about 30 years ago and 29 years ago I got my fixed wing license and commercial flu aeroplanes for about eight years before switching over to helicopters. Commercial helicopter flying in a number of countries. And then I had the opportunity to go back into aeroplane flying fixed wing, gained my air transport pilot license and had the privilege and the opportunity to fly for a very wealthy corporate client. And I was flying his citation X as well as his goals frame, G650 around the globe. Oh, well, used to call it a globe then, but now I realize it's no longer a globe. And I've basically been flying both helicopters and aeroplanes commercially, professionally for the last 29 years. And in seven, eight, nine countries I've been flying commercially. And I hold an Air Transport Pilot License for both helicopters and aeroplanes in three countries around the world. And what hit me was about four years ago was I was teaching my boss's son to fly and I went back through the training notes that I was given 30 years ago to prepare and study for my theory exams. And those documents, when I opened them up, very clearly stated that for all intensive purposes for aerodynamics, we assume that the Earth is both flat and non-rotating. So 29 years of experience, well fixed wing and helicopter. It's right, commercially, personally, etc. And I guess going back to your original training, obviously that maybe did not, that fact that you find in the instruction manuals, right, when you're day one, right, of starting to simulate what it's going to be like when you're actually engaging in air travel as a pilot. So day one, you're to assume as you're training that the Earth is flat and non-rotating. But it didn't strike you 29 years ago, did it? No. And from most of my working brothers and sisters in the fixed and rotary field, they don't register that part. The irony of that is that when we take this assumption from our training manuals, which says that the Earth is flat and non-rotating, there's no second manual that now covers, now how do we deal with that with the Coriolis effect and the 1000 kilometer an hour spin, yada yada, all the nonsense that we've heard. There's no transition to the real world of a spinning globe. So we remain with the so-called assumption that the Earth is flat and non-rotating. And when I'm planning a flight from one side of Earth, whether it be from Brisbane, Australia to New York in the States, I don't make any plans for the adjusting of the additional radius of the Earth and when I'm flying at 35, 40,000 feet. And if you look on a ball, the straight line between Sydney to New York, we'd almost be, or Brisbane to New York, would almost be over flying Hawaii. And yet ironically, when I punch in the coordinates and I put in a flight plan for that flight to New York, we fly over Alaska, which would entail a massive dog leg. And I want to fly the shortest distance possible. I'm curious. Now, and we all, I think, see this. And I've had family, well, first of all, I've flown overseas and you fly north to, you know, they show you that you're flying north to go, then go back south. For example, you know, as of the airing of the show, I'm in Ireland and I traveled from the US of A to Ireland. And same thing, not as probably as drastic of a curve, you know, up north and down as you would going from Australia to the United States. You would have gone through Greenland then, which you can put a big, big dog leg in your flight. It does put a big dog leg in there. But again, you lay it down on a, even just an as-and-muffle, equidistant map, which is a flattening of the globe and it works out perfectly. So I want to get to that experience that you've had, you know, even flying over Alaska, because that in of itself, I guess if I were to take, this is what I'm thinking just as you're talking then. So you've got this huge dog leg, if you will, on the globe. If you were to then take that dog leg out and straighten it out, how much, how many more miles would that line be that distance than if you were to just go on a globe and draw straight line again from Brisbane to, you know, your destination in the US, how many, how many fewer miles would that be, you know, on the, on the globe map? Now, best there's a big difference. That's a very good question and I haven't done that. However, I've done many flights between Sydney and Perth, Perth back to Sydney and it's approximately a 3000 kilometer distance. Our Gulf Stream flies at approximately 1000 kilometers an hour, 960, 980 kilometers an hour. So it's a three hour flight. Now, if you were to calculate in the eight inches per square mile that we're supposed to be having, it would roughly add around 900 kilometers to that sector. So I see what you mean, the extra distance because you're not flying over a flat plane. That's true. I assume you know, we're told we're not flying over a flat plane. So you've got to, you've got more distance to go around a spare. That's correct. But you don't plan for that in your flight plan. Never have. Never have. Never have. And the amount of fuel that you need, even adjusting for going into the wind or with the wind and so those sort of things which obviously are going to affect your fuel consumption or your mileage, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. And we have the jet stream. So that flying in one direction is always slower than another direction because the jet streams are pretty much the same speed and direction throughout the year. The speed changes somewhat. The jet streams come down and increase in certain parts of the year. However, they're always going at the same speed. I'm sorry, in the same direction. So it's always slower to fly from east to west than it is from west to west. Nothing to do with the Coriolis effect. That's just the ground speed related to the prevailing winds. But the higher you would fly, you are flying. You are adding additional radius to a ball if you were flying around the ball. And our golf stream only flies it around 1000 kilometres an hour. So we can't fly fast enough to cover that distance in three hours. So how do we cover that extra distance? There isn't extra distance because there isn't an extra radius. It's flat. And all the instruments on board, both helicopter and aeroplane, the artificial horizon which keeps us upright straight and level and helps us conduct coordinated turn, can only work on a stationary flat plane. Well said. Well said. So going back to the training that you underwent. And now you are obviously training new pilots as well. So this material you're seeing that you're covering on a regular basis. It starts up with, hey, for the basics, just to get the basics down, as we start to learn how to fly a plane, we have to first of all assume that we are flying over a flat and on a rotating earth. That's the first thing, right? And then you go through and you learn about what you need to learn. And you said that there's no jump then to quote unquote reality or what we're told reality is that the earth is moving and it has a curvature to it, which would need to be obviously accounted for because it's all the software is written for aeroplane guidance systems and all of the software that helps aid the pilot in controlling the aircraft and doing what he wants it to do and go where it wants to go is all based on a, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's all based on a flat non rotating earth. So how can all of the pilots training and all of the software that he is using and all of the mechanical instruments that he's using are all based on a flat non rotating earth? How do we actually get anywhere if we live on a, if in reality we live on a spinning orbiting earth? Well, we just come. It's fairy tale. I mean, I've been flying around at 45, 48,000 feet and as far as I can see, the earth is flat. The horizon is flat. There is zero curvature visible. The artificial horizon does not have to be reset or caged every few minutes as we're flying around a curve. I'm not pointing the nose of the aircraft or the autopilot is not following the curvature. We level out at our assigned altitude, 36, 38,000 feet and we stay perfectly level for three hours, six hours, whatever the flight leg is. We're speaking with Zach, 29 years as a pilot, both fixed wing and rotary as a pilot, as an instructor and sharing with us his experience in air space travel. I guess we call it air space, but air travel. And you know, it's very interesting to me, Zach is kind of what you were saying about when you plot a course. So you're flying in the use that you've done this from Australia to the United States. And anybody can go into Google Earth or any, even the Mercated Projection map, which is the one that's hanging in most classrooms, I think still in the world, or go on the globe that's sitting in your kindergarten classroom. If you were to draw a straight line or take a string, a piece of string and tape it to Brisbane and then move that string in a straight line over to San Francisco or something in the west coast of the US and tape it there and look at what the route would be if we live on a globe. And then compare that to an actual flight that were shown what the flight path is. And like you said, it's going to go over Alaska, it's going to go over Canada. And you think about that, how much further north are we talking about Alaska is from San Francisco. You should go nowhere near that, Alaska, if we live on a globe. We're flying based on a globe model of the Earth. So when did you realize that there's something was maybe, it wasn't reconciling with reality when you were flying over Alaska one time that you were like, this is weird, why are we flying over Alaska? Is that what it dawned on you? I radically know. About five years ago, very soon you kept on flying for Swiss Air, said to me, hey, Steven, did you know that the Earth is flat? I said, you're kidding me. You're kidding me back. You said, no, no, no, come on, you said, come on, Zach, you know that the Earth is flat. You've looked outside the cockpit window. Have you seen any curvature? When did you last flight plan for curvature? I said, no, it can't be. And that's when you got me started. And I started looking at Flat Earth Facebook sites and starting to talk to other pilots. Two out of three pilots said I was completely crazy and a couple of them also started thinking. And we accompanied that I was working for. We had six pilots, six wing pilots, three helicopter pilots and I'm dual rated. And we all started talking and within 12 months of independent research, we all came up with the same conclusion that in fact, we don't plan for curvature, we don't plan for the whole of the whole of the world. We can't see curvature. None of our flight planning makes any sense on a ball. But all our long distance flights make perfect sense on our Flat Earth as we understand it, which roughly looks like the the UN map. At least in our little company, we have a unique consensus that all the pilots understand and believe and acknowledge that the Earth is flat. It's non-rotating. It's completely stationary. And it contradicts everything that school children are taught in school. Yes, I've maintained that ever since I kind of awakened to this reality about our world, is that if somebody born and raised without being told or indoctrinated or continually reinforced that we live on a spinning globe, flying through space, but just based on their own personal experience and they grew into an adult. Let's say they're 25 years old and if you were to go up to them and say, did you know in fact that the Earth is spherical? We live on a ball. We live on a sphere. And it's actually spinning at a thousand miles an hour. It's flying around the sun at over 66,000 miles an hour. And we're chasing the sun through our galaxy at something like a half a million miles an hour. How do you think that person would respond? Probably the same way, the same way, the same way somebody that we approach now that believes that we live on, that has never heard or never even thought about, flatters. I think it's crazy. That's why we react the same. Wouldn't you agree? Yes. I mean, that is complete utter nonsense. If you live in the northern or the southern hemisphere, if you take an extended open shutter picture of the stars, they're circling above us. They continue circling around the virus. And that has not changed its position for thousands of years. The Aztecs and Mones, the Hindus, reported the positioning of the stars, which has not moved at all. And had they been moving, then a sextant, and none of our astrology astronomy would work the way we understand it, because we would be seeing different stars flying, whizzing past us constantly. But that never happens. It's always the same star set circling overhead at a predetermined time that it's being recorded in an ephemeral calendar, which records the space time continuum if you like, of the position of those stars above. And that's what makes a sextant work. And that's why ancient seafarers could navigate very accurately across our earth plane, across the oceans, with a sextant, because these star patterns have a unique pattern that is replicated day in day out. It is recorded in from ancient history, and even into the future will remain the same. Exactly. Good stuff. Good stuff. I was curious. We've only got a couple minutes left before we need to take a break. But in a few minutes before the break, how do you respond? You said two out of three pilots are going to kind of reject this. They're indoctrination, in my opinion, is so strong that they're going to reject it, made without any investigation, which is proof of the indoctrination. But when you would approach them, or when they would approach you and say, I'm assuming this is a comeback that you would see, is that, well, the reason we don't have to train for a spherical moving earth is because the plane's guidance systems, the navigation system, it takes care of all of that for us. I don't have to worry about that. That's all taken care of by gravity and by the software. How do you respond to that? Well, I simply explained to them that initial training manuals told you that the Earth's flattened station and all flight planning must be based on a flattened, non-rotating Earth. So when does it become reality? And we have to start factoring in the Coriolis. Are you aware that the artificial horizon can only work on a stationary flat plane? And when you're flying around at 30, 40,000 feet, have you seen any curve to horizon? Yeah, it's a little bit. So that is you're looking through, only if you're looking through curved windows I guess. That's right. And there are some of the planes. There are some of the planes. Yes, there are certainly some passenger planes that with pressurization, changing about to choose, the window does flex and give an appearance of curvature. Yeah, that's one thing I've noticed. And it makes perfect sense. You know, when you're sitting on the ground, obviously the cockpit, or excuse me, the cabin and the outside air will be of equal pressure. The door is open. People are going in and out and they close the door. And they obviously start to pressurize the cabin to allow, you know, to keep you comfortable when they get up to 35,000 feet or so. But at that point, you have to think about it. There's a lower pressure outside and a higher pressure inside in the cabin. And that's going to, you know, anything that's flexible in any way is going to. And I'm sure the plane probably, you know, the cabin itself is probably flexing at some level. You know, there is, there is a little bit of expansion there, probably very minute because of the strong materials that it's built out of. But the windows are also flexible, made of plexiglass or whatever those material, whatever that material is. And you've got a pressurized cabin. Those will tend to logically, reasonably will tend to maybe bulge out a little bit, you know, very, very, very, very small. But that in of itself, you are looking through a curved piece of material. And that's going to distort the, you know, the light that's coming in through that window at some level. And it could make it appear. So I think a lot of people will say, well, I've seen the curve at 35,000 feet. Well, it's because you're looking potentially, you know, you're looking through a curved piece of material that would give you that effect. I think it's important to talk to pilots who have, you know, maybe 180 degree view, you know, because they've got flat windows and they've got the cockpit. They can see left, you know, left all the way to the right. So they can see 180 degree view. Much different view as a passenger, I'm assuming. And you know, you would definitely be able to, you know, optically see curvature at that point. And it sounds like, you know, well, that's exactly right. And if you're sitting in the back as a passenger, if you would have moved your head up and down and around, the curvature is apparent to your eyes with alter. And curvature, if there was curvature out there, would remain fixed. But as you move your head around that window, the curvature changes because the window is curved, not the horizon. Exactly. That is next time you're traveling as a passenger is to, you know, if you're sitting by the window, is you can, you know, move up, move down, move left and right. And you're going to see that what you're looking at is going to be changing. Is that right? That's correct. That's correct. Except in the up front in the cockpit, in the cockpit, we have around 200, 210 degrees of view. And there is no distortion built into the cockpit windows. I mean, if you're making a visual approach to a runway, you need to see it for real, not a distorted image of what that runway looks like. So for safety and accuracy in flying, we can't have distorted windows in the cockpit, like the passengers often do. So the windows are not concave or convex in any way, shape or form in the cockpit. And you said you've been as high as 48,000 degrees. I would assume if the Earth were a ball of a, you know, circumference of 24,000, nine of one miles, when you get to that altitude, which is another, gosh, I'm there two miles or so above where we would even travel as a, at more or more commercial airlines, travel, you know, a mile or two, a higher than that. And still no optical evidence of curvature. When you're looking through a flat, when you're looking through a flat window. Absolutely zero. And while we're on that point, I've had friends who have experimented with sending balloons up into the upper atmosphere. And I believe some of those balloons have, have gotten as high as 120,000 feet. And the footage of that was absolutely perfect. Leaf flat. Unlike when amateur balloons send up a GoPro, which has a fisheye lens, and of course, we get a constant curvature, which is constantly changing as the lens is dipping up and down above and below the horizon. The curvature is changing. Sometimes it's curving down and around, representing a ball of Earth. And sometimes it's totally the opposite. And so it sends you a little bit crazy trying to look at those pictures. But I've seen footage of friends who have sent amateur balloons up with a true corrected lens. And it is perfectly flat at every altitude, at every step all the way up to 120,000 feet. And I'm also assuming as the balloon is rising up, as it's moving up, that the horizon continues to rise at the same rate by pure to rise at the same time. It remains the eye of the balloon. It doesn't go down, dipping down. If we're going up in a balloon or an aeroplane, if we're on a ball, then the horizon would be curving away from us and we'd have to keep looking further and further down towards that ever dipping away horizon. Which in reality, we'd ever do that horizon. He's always out there in front of us at eye level, even at the 100,000 feet, 120,000 feet. And any more own personal experience flying at 48,000 feet, the horizon is perfectly flat and eye level. It's not down there below us. It's straight out there in front of you. And flat is attack. There's very high levels. Flat is the eye. Flat is the eye can see. And all our instruments, all our navigation, long range navigation, is based on one rotating flat earth. What that map exactly looks like, frankly, I don't know, but it is something like what the UN map is like. And so when you draw a line from Brisbane to San Francisco and takes you through Alaska, that's exactly the flight plan we fly. So why the hell are we not flying over Hawaii? It was on a ball. That's the straight line. Well, it's like that news article, which was big in my awakening, as I saw that news article about the lady. And I think the flight was somewhere from north of you. I think it was in the Philippines or somewhere in Indonesia, a flight from Indonesia to Los Angeles, I believe, was the destination. But during the flight, there was a woman that went into child labor. And the pilot had to make an emergency landing. And naturally Hawaii or somewhere in the Pacific, there's got to be some places where on that route, there would be a straight line that they would have been able to make an emergency landing. But no, where did the plane land? It was in Alaska. It was not funny, that makes perfect sense on the flat plane as we understand it. And if the path of the hour earth is something like what the UN presents in their flag, then that's spot on. They're flying in an exact straight line from somewhere in Asia to LA. It takes you over Alaska. Exactly. So have you made that flight from Australia to the US, since you kind of had a wake into the reality of this world that we live or is that you have? Okay. So the first time you were flying over Alaska on that route, it must really have, it must have really, I don't know what the word, what I'm looking for is just shook you as, wow, what confirmation that the, you know, what you've experienced and the awakening that you had experienced to kind of give you that validation that the world is not as a team and it is very, very much different than what is being advertised. So exactly, and my co-pilot brought along with him because he was a new believer in the flat earth model show we call it and he brought a ball, a ball with him on that flight. And we were monitoring how we were deviating further and further and further away from the straight line from Brisbane to LA, flying further and further north and we were just looking at this ball, looking at our navigational equipment, our GPS and laughing ball, why is the GPS taking us over Alaska in a straight line when that makes absolutely no sense on a ball. Well, great stuff and Zach really appreciate you taking the time out to kind of share with us a little bit more evidence, both, you know, your personal experience and then your experience and expertise and professional, you know, working career, you know, in the, you know, air travel industry, which is obviously a great flat earth proof. And we have come to the end of another Paul and the Plain Live here on Truth Frequency Radio, we've been visiting with Zach, almost three decades now, experiences a pilot and an instructor and both fixed wing and ruddery aircraft. And I just want to say thank you Zach for spending this time with us and kind of sharing some insights with us and it's really encouraging to hear that you have, you know, a circle of influence and people that are have woken, you know, a wake into this reality that our world is not a sphere that's spinning through space in four different directions simultaneously. We don't experience anything even though it's curvilinear motion that are that we should be under undergoing, you know, and experiencing this angular momentum change, but they realize that it's flat and fixed and everything that we experience points to that and although that empirical evidence. So that's really encouraging to me to hear about that. Yes. I mean, the simplest thing to go back to the basics, keep it simple and smart. The kiss principle, trust your senses. You can go up to the height of a building, climb up to a mountain, look out at the ocean. Everything is flat. All our senses, our perception is based on a flat motionless earth. It's only the government system that, and the modern scientists that keep messing with our heads telling us that we live on something other than that. If we were never told what we were told in school and if we grew up without any knowledge in depth understanding of where we live, our senses very clearly tell us that we live on a flat motionless plane. We don't understand. We don't experience any motion. We don't observe any motion and we don't see any curvature at all. And I think the last thing I'd like to just quickly throw in that, that every intelligent culture that has ever been on this earth from the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Samarians, the Manics, the Hindus, the Buddhists, the Australian Aboriginals, the Greeks, the Mesopotamians, the Hebrews, the James, the Ulysses, the Inkas, the Israelites, the American Indians, even the Christian Bible, the Babylonians, the Muslims, the Chinese, the Mongolians, the Atlanteans, all stated clearly that the earth was flat and stationary and they have drawn star patterns that we understand and observe today. So all these ancient cultures already knew what we don't know today. Thanks, Zach. Really appreciate it. We are out of time. Thanks again for listening to Paul the Plain Live. Your untruth frequency radio. Strange world with Mark Sargent is next. Good night, everybody. 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