Guest UK Critical Thinker Manchester Arena Attack, Part 1

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And the UK was a country that was hit multiple times with Westminster Bridge attack, with the London Bridge attack, with the horrible tower fire and so on. But there was also a very, very interesting case in Manchester, this so-called Manchester Reenact, where it is said that a bomber went in and hit the target. And through a bomb at a rock concert that was carried out by Arianna Grande. This is a case that I really have been wanting to learn more about, have been looking very deep into it, but still there's many big questions around it. And today I have the pleasure of inviting a really, really good researcher called UK Critical thinker, who has put a massive effort into straightening out as many question marks as possible. And just a few days ago, he finished a documentary that I hope he will tell us a lot about today. So it's a great honor and pleasure to welcome you here to the show. No, thank you very much, Favon Mays. I appreciate it. So I'm sure quite a few people know about your work, but for those who don't, would you mind giving a little bit of a background and introduction on yourself? Yeah, no problem. And I've all started really from, I mean, I've been looking at events myself personally for many years and through various different ways and means as you know yourself. And I got to a point where you sort of build up all this knowledge and you want to be able to tell other people about it. And as fast as it sounds, it was my family members that I started on first. And it was to try and get across all these different anomalies and issues and I'll show them video clips and documents and ones person's version against the narrative. It was all really mismatched and awkward. They sort of get what I was saying, but it didn't really hit on properly. And it was from there that I set up my YouTube channel. And the idea of it being was to break them down in the most basic possible way. I am almost to get the person who was watching who hopefully would be unfamiliar with what they were looking up to sort of get them on the ladder of right, okay, I get the basics. So why do they do these things or who's behind them and all that sort of thing and get them inspired into looking into things as well because I get it's important for everybody to be researching themselves rather than just hoping that somebody's going to do a video and so on. But yeah, that's pretty much how I started about doing them and so far after I think it's been about near 10 months, I think, or just shorter than months. It's been going really well. It sounds amazing that you only been around 10 months. It seems so much longer, but it's been such an intense year. And I think you started with the hardest bit and that is family and close friends that are normally these people are normally the most hard critics and most difficult ones to be around when you're in this process of the weightening to many of these events that are going down. But you are from the UK yourself, are you from near Manchester since this is an area, this is an attack that really interested you? Yeah, I mean, I've lived in Manchester for most of my life and oddly enough, there's a building not too far away from the arena that I lived for a year. So I'm totally familiar with the area. I've been to the concert many times. So I was aware of what was in there and the layout itself. And obviously when this thing happened, the first thing I thought was how confusing they've made it for anybody who's not from Manchester or has never been there to the arena because they were talking about a train station and they're talking about a arena and then a foyer. And you think, well, where has this actually happened? And in effect, it's all one of the same. So because of the nature of the event being so detailed and there's so many people and there's so many stories that went with the people and everything else, it really took some time to just sort of sit back and wait for the dust to settle because there's many people that covered it and you just get snowed under with it. One minute, one person saying something you cover that and then you move something else and you end up covering that and it's you can't string them together. So as I say, after so much time gone by and gathering all this information up, I mean, I even rented a server just to just to put all this information on. So that I can put in some sort of order and the then product is in effect the documentary. And so what is the name of the documentary? So documentary is called on the face of it, Manchester. I've kind of left the open to see whether if if I sort of research another event into as much detail, whether we can make a bit of a series out of it so it could be called on the face of it last or whatever. And yeah, so on the face with Manchester, which was made mid October and I think finished mid November this year. So would you mind telling us giving us the official story of what actually happened or what it said to have happened this evening? Okay, yep. So the story is that a lawn bomber has gone into a he's gone via a train station. He's actually come off the train in the train station called Victoria station. He's then entered a lift up to a walkway, the walkway then waiting area in this waiting area. So it's different people are supposed to be adults and they're all waiting for the end of the concert. The sound cut out the sound cut out. Can you please go back to where you start talking about the official story again? Yes, sure. If you could take the bigger picture sort of like the Ariana Grande was playing there are many in the audience and so on and then going to the detail. Yep, sorry, okay. Okay, so what's supposed to have happened is that on the night in question, there is an American pop star called Ariana Grande and she's doing a tour of UK and one of the venues is this one, which is the Manchester arena. Manchester arena, her fan base is typically 14 year old girls, that kind of thing, like say a pop star. And at the end of the gig, there's supposed to be a bummer waiting for them in like a big waiting area called the foyer, and bum goes off and has killed 22 people. I think the original number was 19 with two dying in hospital and for a good while the amount of injured that were taken to hospital was 59. And this was caused by one man with a Rucksack and the bomb in question is supposed to be a bit like an ID a nail bomb, so it's not your conventional explosion. But it is an explosion of such to allow the force of all these nails and bolts and things to to pierce all these people that were in the room at the time. So it's what it said has happened, but based on other people's accounts and other bits and pieces that you come across, it doesn't seem to look that way. I know for my personal part, I was waiting for something to happen because more or less every single year, about a week before the so called build a book meeting, which takes place on the first of June every year in different locations around the world. But as always, an attack happening that would divert the attention away from this meeting. And so I was just sitting waiting, I had no idea that it was going to be a manchester, but boom, there was right on the date when just like the wood it'd be hitting was also on the 22nd. So there's this incredible tendency to be on the 22nd of different months when it comes to force flag operations, but also numerology this whole thing around the Manchester arena attack is surrounded by the number 22 for some reason. Is that your experience as well when you looked into it? Yeah, I mean, as you say, the number 22 was cropping up because Westminster also happened on the 22nd of March, same year, with this being the 22nd of May. But I was I was finding it was cropping up so much, well, just in anything and everything. So you have the 22 who died, which you can sort of allow for to really because it's a number for people. Even little details like there was a gentleman who was purposely kept out of the press for a good few months. And even he was commenting on a 22 and the reason was is that when he was the closest person to the bomber that survived and he had 22 pieces of shrapnel enter his body. And off the back of that, he then had a tattoo done with the number 22 on his back. And you think, are they just doing it on for the sake of it or are they just trying to say it as much as possible to see if anybody recognizes that this 22 crops up so much. So the time is 22 31 when the bomb goes off, 22nd of May, the guy who caused it was 22 years old, the arrested 22 people afterwards to let them all go. It was it was just full of 22. So what I tried to do in my documentary is rather than trying to explain why that number exists. I highlighted the numbers in red in hope that the person would be the watcher would think, why is that why does that keep cropping up. And again, trying to sort of ignite the minute or wanting to know more because the documentary was just over an hour long. It could be two three times longer and it would still not have covered everything. Yeah, it is it sure is a very complicated case. One of the things that intrigued me with it was that the fact that it was carried out in front of thousands and thousands of people in the audience officially. And I doubt it for a long time if it had actually occurred or if they had sort of staged the whole event by booking the arena just through the ticket system that you know they let the tickets free online and then block the phone lines. So that and then after an hour say that okay, sold out and then everybody would be thinking thinking that okay, there's going to be 22,000 people in there. But actually it would be more or less empty that evening. But I think I was told you wrong there and that you come to a different conclusion. Yeah, what I was finding is is that in order for this to work as such. And I was gone off in a completely different area to the arena. So the concert is happening just as normal as as you would expect. And the part that the people in San D arena play had that it plays on the innocence of them in effect because what is supposed to happen is effectively the bomb goes off behind them. And the noise and the reactions of certain people that effectively ripple through the rest of the crowd. So it would be ridiculous to think the I think it was 14,000 were actually in there in the end. And they were all in on it at the end of the day it's the herd mentality sort of thing of. And they see what's going on they see people panicking and then it just freaks everybody else out. And so that's sort of how they've worked with that. And then it's further compounded by the fact that the audience are only young young teenagers. So of course they're going to be scared that they're going to react in that way rather than say, I don't know, I mean Metallica. If it was if it was 14,000 Metallica fans, they might have acted completely different. So it wouldn't pass just as well. So what you're saying and what the official story says as well, I know in the beginning, the bomb, the location of the bomb kept changing as well. So it was very hard to get a clear picture where it actually happened. But you're saying that the bomb, if there was such a thing, it went off outside the arena in what is called it for you. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right. So it's in effect. It's a it's a waiting area that connects the car parks are the arena's car park, the train station, which sort of feeds the arena or search so people who want to come to the arena that will be there nearest train station because it's directly underneath. It's sort of it's sort of the middle point of it all and you can't get into the arena without going through the fire and through the tickets. There are other exits at the back of the arena, but they they play only a part after the bombers has gone off because as the so called bombers gone off, the people in the arena are pretty much pushed to go out the other exits out the back, which then leaves the fire completely open to whatever needs to happen at the time. So whether it be dressing the scene or making sure everybody who's there is supposed to be there, that kind of thing. But also the four years more or less abandoned normally, isn't it during the concert? Yeah, it would only be this is this is the key part and it's mentioned in the documentary is that because it's a completely open area of anybody can go there, you don't have to be going to the arena grandeur, you could go up the stairs, go inside. And normally up until three months before the attack, there was in fact a McDonald's there. So you could go to the McDonald's and eat there if you wanted to because as I say, this fire area effectively served a car park and the train station. So you might want to come off the train, go to McDonald's, have something to eat and then go on your car and drive off. And you have no you would have no relevance to the to the gig that's going on inside and you wouldn't be challenged by anybody because there's nobody there. It's just staff on the doors of the arena. So sure, if you want to try and get into the arena, you'd have to show a ticket, but otherwise they would let you right through because it's just one big open room. You mentioned this McDonald's as far as I know that McDonald's was shut down a few months before this old happen. Yeah, definitely. And as what I've done is in the documentary, I put a screenshot in there just to show that when it was being covered at the time, which I think was February this year, the newspaper actually asked the owners of the unit, if you will, the actual McDonald's itself. And why why it was closing and they actually refused to comment. So for the likes of me and you were looking at sort of red flags and this kind of thing, you know, you've got a McDonald's closing down for no reason. And there's no reason behind either that they're willing to give. So then the day the point of the McDonald's is that if there's no McDonald's, then there's less likely people just going to be walking through the fire at the time. And it effectively controls that room. You can make that room your own. The arena is still going on just as normal, but the fire is getting set up ready for the end of the gig. I mean, I think you have to question that really deeply because McDonald's in that location right between the parking garage, the train station, one of the biggest arenas in Europe. I mean, that would be a golden spot for McDonald's. So could you repeat that they they they they had no comments the owners. No newspaper asked them multiple times. I think the first asked the question whether it was because the rent was being increased and they got no reply. And then they just sent a general letter just saying why is it being closed. They just never got a response. So that's really interesting from a point of view, if this was a false like operation, because then that would also give you give us the timeframe for the preparations and so on that three months before this thing happened. They were already preparing. Yeah, without a doubt is it's it's it's a way of. They've closed it down not too soon before to raise suspicion, but not to lay either so that they can still obviously make as much money because it's something. Donals ultimately, but they've yeah, they've left it a reasonable enough time it for people not to over remembered, you know, it might be there or they would have thought well, it closed down three months ago. That's got nothing to do with this when in actual fact it plays a massive part because, as I say, if people were allowed to just really walk through the fire to go to them. And then they would just go to the other side of the tunnel, whatever they were trying to set up in the room, you couldn't have just Joe public or the staff of McDonald's watching in on it because then you would have witnessed the part of it. From an outside point of view as a critical thinker, can you see the reason why that exact spot were being pointed for this operation if there was such an operation. Oh, I mean, I mean, it seems daft really because I mean the way you think about these things, you think, well, logic would dictate that if you are a terrorist and you want to cause massive harm, then it's the people on the inside of the arena, surely because that's where the massive people are 14,000 people in there. And you could cause structural damage, you could, you know, wreck business, you could maximize damage. Whereas this guy has decided, or supposed to have decided that he's going to go at the end of the gig and wait for people to come out after it's finished. And because the fire exit isn't the only exit that people can come from, he's not even targeting the bulk of people. And the reason why the fire is picked from our point of view looking at it, skeptically, is because it's one big open room that is not near people. So in effect, you haven't got 14,000 pairs of eyes, seeing what has actually happened. So of course, if this was a nail and bolt bomb, there must have been a very much damage to the room after the explosion. Yeah, that's what they reported. They reported that nails and bolts were in the walls and the doors. You had a skylight that's, it's not particularly tall, it's at the roof of the fire. It's where you're able to identify it if you're looking on Google Maps overhead. You can see which bit the fire is, but the skylight is supposed to have been completely shattered. So you can sort of get a picture as to how big this bomb is supposed to be. And how powerful it must have been. But I asked one of my friends if he could lend me his drone and he sent the drone up and we had a look over. And the glass is perfectly fine. And then the one and only photograph that has ever been released to the public to show what this fire looked like, just doesn't have any of that level of damage there whatsoever. And then I've had to go so far in the documentary to compare it to a real nail bomb incident, which is very graphic in comparison to what is supposed to have happened here. And it was, the example I used was an outside space. So you can only imagine that if you took the same level of detonation, if you will, in a room, it would be painted. You know, you would see everything they say has happened in there, but it's just not. And that's again one massive eyebrow raise. This was one of the things that also made me react right away was the only photo we've been shown, which is from this for the area. There are no teenage girls, there are no who are in these photos, this photo as far as you can see. As far as I can tell, I mean, there's one one, I believe is pretending to say he is somebody and he's again, he's a massive ragged flag because he's the first person to contact the media. Everything he wants to do, ringing up the, he rings the BBC and says it gives his story and not only was he so close to the bomb and he was sent flying through some doors, he's completely uninjured. He's on, you know, he's given an interview on that very night about an hour and a half later. So he claims to be in the room and in that photograph. There's another gentleman there who he, I do believe he is in the room, if if he's, if he's stories to be believed. The problem you have is that when you look into these people, you of course, first thing you're going to do is you look at the Facebook page and see what there were reactions. They put any extra pictures on there that they may have taken. And this gentleman who's in the fire photograph actually says on his Facebook page that he didn't see any small, he didn't see any injured or dead children. Yet one of his biggest articles that he did with a major newspaper was that he ran into the fire after he heard the blast. And the first thing he did was he saw the bomb as torso and that was closer to the arena. And in order to be respectful for all these kids that were in and around the area, he picks up the torso and brings it back into the fire. Now the fire photograph, which has got to obviously be after the blast, shows him perfectly fine. You know, when there's no blood, there's no body, there's nothing. So where has that story come from? And to compound it more is that there's been a, there was a documentary over here called a hundred days after Manchester. And he had loads of different people on there, but it was almost as if they were showcasing new characters, people that you've never heard of before. However, this fellow featured and he gave a little speech about what he did and I'm thinking, you know, the photograph tells you everything. So where does that come from? As you say, I mean, you can't easily recognize the people that are on the ground, you know, they're not easily recognizable as I think there was a children that were supposed to have been killed in this and the rest adults. Yeah, as you say, you know, it's one picture that you're given just does not show what is supposed to have happened. When I look at this photo, I mean, there's absolutely no signs of an explosion. All the people in there are like middle aged men. There's no teenagers, no wounded as far, no blood, no destruction, no nothing. It looks like the practicing CPR on a weekend course or something like that. I mean, you know, as well as I do when it comes to these things, one of the issues when it comes to people that are walking around with a mobile phone and not helping anybody that's on the floor or in this case, taking a picture with maybe you would take a picture, I mean, I would because I would probably take a picture thing. Yes, I need to capture this moment to prove that it's not real, but they're taking the picture for the benefit of they know what they're going to do with this picture. They're going to have to put it out worldwide to get across something has happened in this room. But another problem that that picture that was put out was for a good while. The picture was actually credited to a homeless man and the homeless man is credited to helping injured children. Now, how can that be? You know, you've got one guy in the photo saying you couldn't see any. The photo doesn't clearly show those sort of bodies shapes in there. Yet the picture is taken by a homeless man who's supposed to have helped children is so contradictory. And that's why it took so long to look at each individual person and sit together and do it step by step and doing it away so that anybody could watch the documentary or go, right, I get it now. I understand this isn't the Manchester Arena bomb in a search. It's happening just outside of it. So, you know, in any crime investigation, when you hear witnesses and so on, one of the things is that you're looking for things that doesn't match up from different versions if they talk about this thing at different locations. And one thing that I keep bumping into in this case is that the the stores changes and you're you're mentioning this homeless man. I think he's one of them where there's so many different versions. Yeah, I think what they've done originally with the homeless people and this is the thing with the documentary. I couldn't go into great levels of detail to try and explain what what I think I wanted to make absolutely sure that, you know, this man, dead center, he works with show, sec. You know, there's no arguing that he's in the causes in the uniform. And that's why I was able to talk about him. When I was talking about the homeless man, who's two aspects of his story that were issues. First of all, his story is that he hears the bomb, excuse me, and he goes up the stairs and he sees this. He sees a little girl on the floor and she's got no legs. Excuse me. So she's got no legs and he says to her, where's your mummy and daddy? And she says to him, my daddy's over there and my mummies up there or something or work or something like that. And even though that is a pivotal moment of the story in this newspaper, it then skips. Doesn't say what happened to the girl I presume she's actually alive because she's this person has never been named. She never come out as being one of the injured. There's never, never shown you a girl who's got double, double amputee legs sort of thing. And then he's the next part of the story is that he then goes on to grab a woman and she ends up dying in his arms. But this woman is in her 60s. Well, one of the biggest things and pointed out in the documentary again is that the oldest person to die was 51. So how that got overlooked by so many people I don't know. And I think when it comes back to the little girl in no legs, she is in fact supposed to be on paper, sort of speak. She's in fact supposed to be the youngest person to die a girl called Safi Rousseau. The thing is, is Safi Rousseau didn't die of having no legs. She died of just having injured legs. And they've almost doubled up on the story because somebody else who also heard the blast and running and helped. Claimed ownership of that little girl by naming her. So you've effectively got two guys with the same story except one said, oh, I think I thought she was called Sophie. But it must have been Safi and the homeless man, he's supposed to have helped her. But it never named her. So she sort of disappeared into nothingness. She never come forward since. And she certainly hasn't died because if she was, she would be as young as this other girl. You see what I mean? There's sort of doubled up on everything. You've been listening to the first hour of a Light on Conspiracies podcast. To access the second hour of this and all podcasts, please visit lightonconspiracies.com and get a membership for the price of a cup of coffee. Now back to the show. So this woman, the 51 year old, did she look really old so that she could be taken as a 61 or 60? Absolutely not. I mean, from looking to this particular woman, I mean, there's not too many pictures around there. But one of the things she seemed to be quite keen on doing was she was a marathon runner. Used to do running for charity. And obviously if you're a runner, you physically fit. And she certainly doesn't look, I mean, 51 even is quite old for what she looks like. So again, you know, this is a homeless man saying a woman in her 60s, she looks far from it. But this homeless guy, he also was talking about pulling nails and stuff from the face of the victims, didn't he? Well, that was the other part of the Manchester bombing that was just so many stories, so many different accounts and so on. Because it was in fact too homeless man that ran in. The second homeless man, the one you've just described who was pulling nails out of children's faces. His story's sort of been pushed to the side. But yeah, again, how can he be doing the things he's saying he's doing? Yet the man in the photograph, you can't see children on the floor, how is that possible? So are these homeless man, are they telling the truth? And then this other guy is lying or is it the other way around? Either way, when this thing happens, you would expect it would be straightforward. This should be equal amount of people in there. This should be a mixture of kids and adults. And they tried to help him and all the stories should cooperate. But they don't, what they do is they conflict with each other. And they don't also pair up, like I say, you don't have this gentleman in the photograph called Darren confirming that he saw Paul help the local police. You know, they never talk in that way. It's always about what they did, their little slice of information. And it just confuses the hell out of everybody. And that's the point. It's to confuse everybody. The thing I love with the truth and when something happens is that whatever happened happened. And so there would be maybe different versions from different angles and different witnesses. But the general story will be the same. And also, like you say, people will see each other and help each other and talk about each other. When things like this happen, but that you we don't see at all. No, I mean, again, the consistent story with all these, let's just call them here, I was, because I can't think what, what else you, you would call them. And is that they all seem to, one of their reactions to this to help people was to put people on to make shift stretches. And this was repeated over and over and over. Everybody was just making stretches out of nothing. But because it confused everybody in terms of where this bomb had happened, the layout of the place, you know, like I say, they said it happened in a train station, they happened in a arena, did it happen in the fire. There was in fact only one, um, merchandise stall in this photograph. It's just off to the left. Well, they couldn't all have smashed up this merchandise stall and all made stretches out of it. It was just, again, it's like almost the stories are just simply to build your pitch, because this is the only photograph they're willing to give anybody. So they're just letting the witnesses tell the story and give evidence rather than just simply showing you for what it truly was, because if they did, then it wouldn't reflect how they described it. And that's why you get your conflict. So has this girl with the nails in the face that he pulled out? Has she ever been into you or found or seen? No, as far as I know, nobody has been paired up with anybody of any significance. As I say, you know, Darren, with the torso, you can't see anything on him. You assume that in the photograph he's already done what he said is done. So he should be covered in red. And the guy in the middle, the fellow from show, sec, you know, there's a major security company for the arena. He's never come forward and said, you know, I'm the guy dead center in the pitch, you know, he in a factory with the most famous guy. No, he's never come forward. Nobody has paired up with anybody to say, thank you very much for saving my life. And again, I think if they tried to do that, you would then be able to give more ammunition as to these two don't know each other or they're both trying to fool everybody. And that's it. And the way they've done Manchester is to simply tell a very basic story, give you some rough information and some poor evidence to sort of say, well, it sort of fits the narrative. So there you go. And everybody sort of bought it. And another thing that concern me was the lack of cars in the parking lots outside and so on. At a normal concert, what is what does it look like outside? The car park that facilitates the arena is a multi story. So you've got the car parking in this one. Like I say, you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to see the car park from from this at all. So if you're looking at the photograph, the car park is is actually behind them in one of the exits that way. And you're effectively having to rejoin part of the train stations, stairwells in order to reach the car park. So you wouldn't see any of that. The arena then outside then has all the car parks around it, which separate to the arena completely. And as far as I know, all they did was just cord and off the area. And so I didn't really take notice to whether there was loads of cars there. And like say, I'll just focusing on the on ground zero sort of speak. But when you when you see the photos from from the evening, especially of the people that they claim were there and was sort of lined up against the wall and being carried around. I mean, it's just a handful of people were high HD quality of the photos taken by a local photographer. I know that you identified and so on. But in the background in the streets, there's no cars. There's nothing. And this happened at the end of the concert. So there should have been thousands of people in the street. Am I am I wrong when it comes to that? Well, that's what I was trying to do with the documentary to try and first explain the layout show how how people get to it and the sort of. As far as I'm most as as basic as possible. But this was the whole sort of conclusion as to where I got to with the documentary was that when the photographer then comes in at the end of the concert. And there's just enough time for the bulk of the people to actually leave, which is why in the official photographs as I've called them. There is a there's a there's not that many people still there. Everybody else has gone because they're not part of it. They just go home and do their natural thing, which is concerted finished. They all go home. Then the eventually along the way found out of something really bad must have happened back then. That's what people were being weird about. But the ones that stick around are there purely for the photographs. So for example, the people you mentioned, the lean on leaning against the wall and on the floor and so on. There is no parking area there that's effectively a main road that runs along the front of the train station. So there would be no cars there. But in any case, would the police's quick reaction time to all this is effectively cordoned off what they needed to. And like as I say, get the bulk of the people out there and only the ones who are allowed to stay stay. You know, when I've one of the things that I always are searching for when it comes to these things are if there's any possible security drills or any type of drills beforehand. Because not only do they often use these drills to get the local vehicles and position explosives, crisis actors, whatever is needed in location during these drills, but they also use them as rehearsal as well as I believe. So it's a time to take these high quality photos that will then be spread out as in international media as sort of the face of terror for whatever that event. You will also always find the same photographer at the drill and then at the event itself and the high quality good lighting, super sharp images that shows alleged victims from this thing. So is there a possibility of drills and Manchester as well beforehand? Absolutely. I mean, again, the documentary goes into what it was trying to do is not only just explain what the official narrative was versus what people were saying. It also tries to put it in a way of what is the more likely thing that has happened here. And as you say, when it came to the photographer, he came on my radar because one of the beauties of having a YouTube channel is that you get in contact with so many people. And for the most part, it's been only good. And it was actually, I can't think of his name, but thank you to whoever you are if you are listening sent me a message. You're a good man as per I think always. So again, Joel Goodman, wasn't it? Yeah, Joel Goodman, but I mean, in the person who pointed pointed out that this Joel Goodman, it wasn't just a random photographer. He was a photographer for, well, it's freelance, but he typically deals with the Manchester even in news newspaper. Now, this arena used to be called the Manchester Evening News arena. So you got that connection there, sort of speak. And they said, you know, what are the odds that this guy takes this photograph from a year prior and ends up going viral. I mean, I remember seeing it in the pictures and thinking, yeah, it's a funny picture and all this. But in this article, he says that he was there. It just happened to be there. It was just one of those pitches that you know, one in a million on all this. And he was doing a part folio about the drinking, drinking culture in Manchester. So what he was doing, whilst everybody was having a good time on a New Year's Eve, he's in fact going around taking pictures of people and catching them in drunken states. And then the next thing in terms of the drills is that he's a drill that occurred May 2016 at a shopping centre, probably 10-15 miles away from the centre of Manchester, where a drill was taking place there. And that's where I started getting my comparisons and thinking, well, if I've carried out a drill by a guy walks into a shopping centre with a rooksack and blows himself up in front of a load of people that are hanging around near this area. Now, luckily for me, I used to live near the traffic centre. So again, I know that area quite well. And the area that he's in is like a food hall, you know, it's effectively an area like a say where people would be coming in and out of the traffic centre. So you've got a year before the event where circumstances are similar. You've then got this McDonald's that are clear and out just before it. And then this actually happens. And that's the comparison I ended up making in the documentary to say, this is why I think they've actually done in the room and then tried to trade to everybody else outside the room that it was something far bigger. The English queen went to see some of the alleged victims at the hospital. And when she was walking around saying hello to the staff and so on, congratulating them and so on. What was mentioned there as well. Could you tell us about that? Yeah, I mean, you think how far do you go into these things? I mean, if I had all the time in the world, which unfortunately I don't, I am a wage slave, I still have to put food on the table as anybody else. But one of the things that was mentioned was that as the queen, she did like a, I think it's like a two hour constant feed on the news at the time this queen's going round and she's shaking hands, and all the staff and all this sort of thing. And she's speaking to why I think are the main players of the hospital in question. Because what you've got is you've got staff who are big smiles on the face and they're talking about how, even though it was their night off, they came into help and all this sort of thing. And the paramedic that's actually in the photograph is stood in the background as these people are talking. So as I say, you know, these are keep, they must be key people. But one of the younger members of staff, her nurse, she sort of let slip the only month prior to the event. They carried out a drill and it went like clockwork, you know, quote unquote. And of course, everybody saw this, you know, I mean, I sort of community, everybody sort of in the know and we're all going, oh my god, can you believe that she's just sent that? So you've got a Manchester drill a year before and there was in fact another drill carried out. I don't know if you heard this, but Manchester United, the football club and their football ground, which again isn't too far away from the Manchester City. The city center of Manchester is that they had a drill and they did it live at the very last football game of that season. And the circumstances of that was that a bomb was supposed to have been left on a seat, you know, one of the seats in the stadium. So they evacuated the whole area. And again, I just see it was just testing to see how they could work the crowds so that when they did it for real in this case, you knew exactly what was going to happen and how everybody was going to react. And they just played it in real time. Also one thing with these different alleged victims, small young girls and teenagers and so on. It was very strange because when the Queen was walking around saying hello to them, they didn't have the hospital clothes on. They were in their civilian clothes and so on. They weren't just wearing civilian clothes and they were still wearing the same clothing that they were wearing on the night, which you would think, is it evidence? You know, should it have blood all over it? You know, is it morbid to say that? But then you think, well, it's a hospital. So they're going to be the cleanest places ever. But yeah, as you say, you know, they're just wearing wearing their comfort outfits with a big smile on the face as well. So you know, you look at it and you say, oh my goodness, you know, are you really thinking this? You really think that these children are lying, but they must be because they're certainly not acting like a person who's just been involved in a terror attack, especially the way that the portrayed terror attacks to be possibly the worst thing on in the world. But yeah, you know, as you say, you know that nobody seems to bat an eyelid. I used to work as a journalist and many times I've been at the excellent sites, you know, like train crashes or car crashes and so on. And I mean, standard procedures that people are very pale, shocked, shaking, some screaming, others totally quiet, just wondering around in circles. But never ever have I seen anyone walk around with a big smile. But this is something called dooping delight and maybe you can tell us a little about dooping delight and other cases as well. Yeah, I mean deep in delight we've got that doop and light is in fact, it's a psychological reaction to when you know yourself, you're getting away with the lie. It's a very hard thing to explain, but it's you know you're telling a lie and you're looking at the person who ever you're talking to and just for a split second, as you when you think that you're getting through the conversation. So it sometimes happens at the end or just in the middle where you sort of crack a little bit and you let the smile go. Yeah, that's what it is. And when it came to various people involved in the Manchester arena bombing, the smiles everywhere. I mean, sticking to the Queen's visit. The girl who's wearing around her Ariana Grande T shirt, she's full of smiles, you know, and she's supposed to have been badly injured. But there was also a woman in there that I didn't cover in the documentary and she's a very significant witness character, I don't know what you'd say. And she's sitting in a chair at the back of the room. So even though this is a children's ward, she is in the back of this room who's also supposed to have been injured in the blast. And the Queen walks over to her and says something along the lines of, is everything okay with you. And this woman with the biggest smile on her face says, yeah, yeah, I'm fine, but my friend, no, she didn't make it. And you think she's got the big grin on her face and just like as if it's nothing, my friend died two days ago and checking on with the Queen. And she goes on to say something stupid like, but the hospital of treating is really nice and the food's not too bad here either. You think this room is just set up purely for the cameras that is it. That's all I can say on it. I've found over the years that many times this kind of use is done by I think it's called ITN not used by ITN. Productions production. And I think that is very telling because they are not specialized in use. I know that they have a smaller unit that do use things, but they are focused on doing different soap operas and production like that. And it feels very much like that is possibly what we're seeing here. So how would you explain that the Queen would be in on it? How would I explain? To be honest, when it comes to these things, I try and leave the most difficult questions out of it completely because at some point, as you say, you know, that question, well, how can the Queen be in on it? I can't be surely. And when it gets to that point, even though, I mean, the way I've done the documentaries to pretty much lay out everything as much as possible from start, you know, before it happened, when it happened after it happened reaction, all that sort of thing. And to pretty much say, you know, if all these people rely on, are they fooling the Queen? I mean, the way I see it when it comes to these things, when the Queen walks through the room to a room full of, in my opinion, liars, you know, they're not telling the truth about what they've said has happened. I think the Queen is there to almost cement the whole story to make. It's absolutely sure that all those girls that are in the beds and the woman sitting at the back knows you cannot turn around from this. You can no longer go back on what you've agreed to do because here's the Queen. And you know, to turn around and say, oh, actually, you know, I'm not up for this. I don't want to take part in this anymore. You're going against the Queen. Well, who's going to win in terms of, you know, about all of statements. Queen's going to say it's real in your saying it's not who's going to go down in flames. So I think that's why they involve high, you know, high profile characters like the Queen and Prince Charles, he also visits a deer in her as well, is to make absolutely sure that all these people that are playing their part stick to it. But it also gives credibility to the whole thing. They do this into. And of course, yeah, Queen, you know, it's a 90. I can't forget how old she is now, 93 96 or something. You know, she can't surely she's not that evil, right? But you see it after the Stockholm truck attack, where after I mean, they just wheel these royalties out there. And it's very important to see how they're connected like in different secret networks and like the bill, the book group, the committee of 300 and so on, where they're talking in these things. And when it comes to the British Royal family, oh my god. But there's another really weird case of doping delight when it comes to Ariana Grande and the memorial concert afterwards. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. When she's, she's I think she's announcing various victims names and she mentions one in particular, and she almost burst, well, she does burst out laughing. And I've seen people that so that clip has obviously gone onto YouTube and people have mentioned about it and that kind of thing. And people will still blindly argue that, oh, no, she's just so happy. She's just so happy about what's happened. And she's happy that she's making people happy. And she's happy. No, she's not. She's her doping delight, but in an extreme version because she's the more people she's fooling the bigger the smile almost. And yeah, as you say, you know, it's just it's right there in front of you and people don't see it. And also when it comes to the management companies and so on behind it, many of these attacks, they've had the same mark agencies behind them and also almost the same manager, scooter is his name Ariana Grande manager scooter. And he actually had a private meeting with nobody less than Benjamin Netanyahu, the leader of Israel just two weeks before this whole thing happened. Then you have the Nicki Minaj, which is very close to Ariana Grande. They've done many videos together and songs together. She was on the West, Mr. Bridge, the very day before the attack happened in the West, Mr. Bridge filming a video. And then being there on they had a photo session, all is on the exact spot where the very next day they were victims lying there, allegedly killed and so on. And there's a lot of these artists as well. There was the night before the actual attack itself in Las Vegas. There's another illuminati puppet. If you want to call in that, it's called Drake. And he was nominated for 22 awards that night to do with this music. Come to that, whatever you want to call him or ward ceremony. And what he did is he played one of his songs, Infanta, you know, the Bellagio Fountains, you know, the Fountains that dance. And he did a song called GALCHESTER. And GALCHESTER, if you look it up, is like a Jamaican slang word for a good looking girl in Manchester. And he did that the night before. And you just think it can't be possible that these things just happen by chance. You know, he's nominated for 22 awards. He sings this song night before. And then he's big grand finale as well with these, with the Fountains is that there's been big fireworks that go off. And you know, and you're singing away this song and the big explosions, and you just, you can see how, how they do it sort of things almost like a magic almost they're trying to cast a spell in advance of this thing actually happening. I mean, sometimes there are such things as coincidences, but when you, when it's year after year in the hundreds, almost when you look into different these attacks alleged attacks, then it comes to a point where you just have to accept that this is how they do it. And there's often a side part of the whole thing as well, where they convince you're subconscious to accept their solution to these things. What we're coming to the end of the first hour. And could you piece a show people how to get in touch with you and how they can find your documentary, your YouTube channel and so on. Yes, certainly so YouTube channel if you go on there, like I said, the documentary is called on the face of it Manchester. So it should come up just from there, failing that if you search for myself, which is UK in capitals critical thinker. I mean, there's plenty of videos on there about all sorts of different events that have happened. I've done the Minnesota sort of way that it's almost like a start middle and end. So it's quite easy watching. And then as a bit of a backup, there's also a website called vidme vidme and I'm on there also. Excellent. Is there any way people can support you and your efforts of what you're trying to accomplish? For me, with the YouTube channel, I mean, obviously having subscribers is a really good thing because it almost gives you the credibility as well. It shows that it's getting bigger. I've just gone over the 2000 mark, which is a fantastic amount of people in just short space of time. But to be honest, for me, in my mind, knowing that people who don't know this sort of stuff are watching is the bigger goal for me. So if anything, if you like the videos, share it. That's the key. You've got to share these things. You've got to show them what is actually really happening. Excellent. Thank you so much. And we'll be back in the second hour. To listen to this full interview, just go to lightonconspiracies.com and subscribe. Give yourself the gift of truth and awareness while supporting Ole's hard efforts to get it out there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.