Jesse Spots Interview about Matthew North

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Uh, Jesse spots everybody. Uh, just so you guys know, Jesse spots, uh, of a YouTube fame, uh, New Matthew North, very well, uh, did a lot of work with him. Uh, I don't know the relationship as far as it went with the honor of being and all that stuff, but the work they did do together, I thought was very well put together. Uh, whatever happened behind the scenes between those guys, I'll let Jesse speak to, but I thought the work on screen really showed the, uh, talent of Matthew North and the bright spots where you and Matthew North in those, uh, kind of settings if you understand what I mean without dising y'all and erring too much. Yeah, that's interesting. So no, Matt, Matt and I were always good. We were good. We grew distant. Uh, I looked at my emails. We grew distant in about April and he, he started to withdraw more and more. I, I think probably for most people, not just from me. Um, yeah, it's interesting. It's going in the on urban direction. I didn't expect that. Um, but, uh, yeah, in fact, if, if people want to go to my Twitter, I posted my last email from Matthew that'll clear up a lot of the questions. Like, uh, people around me were really suspicious of this all the count that he created called Kiefer Fooks. And so I asked him about that and he sent me this whole long paragraph that for me at least it satisfied me and put me at ease. But, um, my regret is that I didn't keep reaching out to him and encouraging him, which is what I felt like, like I've been thinking about it. Like the last few days, like I've been, I've had time to reflect. And I think one people, like one thing that people forget is Matthew mostly edited these videos together and he could follow the money and he made really amazing edited videos. It was only recently that he started live streaming and that's a whole other, that's a whole other monster. And so it, like he did a couple of live streams and then he went to a smaller channel and started covering anti-deluvian subjects. And the more I think about that, it makes total sense because it was a way for him to sort of be heightened. It was a way for him to sort of isolate himself and get better at live streaming, which is an aspect. I don't think anybody's ever going to really cover. And it's something, it's, so anyways, what kind of questions do people have? What do you want to, there's so many different things that we can talk about. All right. Yes, let me pull up a couple things really quick just to verify. And let me, let me, let me just go ahead and I want to apologize to a couple people and they know who they are. Like my default is anger. Anger is my default when dealing with death, especially suicide. And I knew that people were going to be pretty paranoid and they would come up with their own conspiracies. And I think that's fine. I think people who suspect foul play, that's fine. I think we should get to the bottom of it. But my anger came out yesterday in a big, big way. So I just want to apologize to all those people just off the top and just apologize, general. Yeah, because I think Donald Netanyahu was strictly just coming from a tribute. I know, you know, I know. And he said, and he said, it's about, he said he cleared it up with you. No issues. Miss understanding. When you go public, when you go public with something like this, it's like you're opening up a portal and it just creates this vortex and everybody's like, how did you find out? It's like, what's like? So I was very frustrated because I did not want to be the source. I didn't feel like I was the source. I found out on Wednesday from one of Matt's subscribers and he said, you know, somebody just replied to me and they said their Matt's brother. And my response to that is I said, my first instinct is to say that's Matt fucking with you or that's somebody fucking with you. And he said, yeah, I agree with you. But then he came back and he said, hey, Jesse, I think this is legitimate and then he started taking screenshots. Yeah. And I'm just going to pull up a couple screenshots. One was a picture from a September 30th picture where someone writes one month later, hold on to that, which is a kind of, you could take that as just, that's a good picture, hold on to it or, you know, hold on to that. Oh, baby, there's, there's, there, there are, there are a whole threads where people are saying, sorry for your loss. I don't think there's a substantial amount. So people still have perfect, perfectly good reason to be suspicious. But there are whole threads on Facebook, like memorial threads on the brother's page and stuff. Yeah, no, it's legit that he has passed away. But the question's more of foul play, natural causes, drug problems, suicide, which is tough to bring up. And someone that knew him, what do you suspect? I have, I have my own bias, which is to say that there are some foul play involved. I think mostly because I don't want to be left alone with the anger. I could go either way with it on suicide or, or foul play. If it's suicide, I'm going to be really pissed at Matthew because he had so much, like he had so much potential. And like, like I said, he just started live stream. So I really, I really hope like, I don't know, like I just think over time people will be able to piece together the puzzle. I'm going to, I'm going to talk to the brother tomorrow. Now I'm not promising people that I'm going to be doing like Matthew North content or anything. I'm talking about maybe a couple of weeks from now, I'll, I'll present snippets of some of the information I've put together. But Matthew's brother and I will begin a conversation and I'm going to outline to him in the family that people are going to have a lot of questions because Matthew meant so much to them. But you're in a position where you worked with him a lot and you knew him so, uh, to not use, sorry to call you off, not to use better terms. It falls into your lap a little bit whether you want it or you don't want it. Yeah. It's, but I have no problem sharing screenshots and, and the paper trail like emails I've had with Matthew. I have no problem with that, but I'm going to outline to the family first. There's going to be researchers coming and looking for information. If there's an obituary, if there's a incident reporter, a case number, that would really be helpful. So if there's specific little targeted things that I can get across to the brother, I think that I think it's in their best interest. And they have, I have been given no reason to suspect that they wouldn't do that for us. But, um, but the first thing he told me was he said that it meant a lot that I reached out to him because I meant so much to Matthew and, um, it didn't sound like he wanted to talk to me immediately on the phone. He needed some time. And so he set aside tomorrow. It was just understandable. He's, you know, it's one thing to deal with the death, which we're assuming is September. Um, yeah, it's like a month later. And it's another thing to start seeing it pop up on Twitter, YouTube, threads, and wild speculations about what happened and people, uh, is besperching his name, which I can't understand. I don't understand that. Uh, I don't, if you want to bring up certain names, you can, but I saw some people that were kind of, uh, possibly saying some things that were kind of weird, which why wouldn't you say why you live? I think people should mentally prepare for the fact that Brendan O'Connell's little corner of the internet is going to be so, like so toxic and competitive that yes, they are going to drag Matthew's name to the mud. And what I challenge Brendan O'Connell about is show me one instance where he claimed that Matthew plagiarized him before Matthew died. So Brendan is such a coward. He's coming out after Matthew has died showing his envy, his jealousy and calling Matthew a plagiarist. Matthew reached out to Brendan. He would have been excited and happy to collaborate with Brendan. Yeah, huge fan of him. Yeah. So Brendan, well, who has it? Who has it plagiarized Brendan O'Connell? I mean, that's the real question. But when dealing with suicide or like anger, the anger is going to come out. I don't think, I don't, I don't think Brendan's thinking this through. I don't think he's thinking this clearly. It's like this is, like this is a, this is a personal friend of mine. I want a reason to be angry, you know, don't give me a reason to be angry. It's just, just let us fucking breathe and, and, and, um, figure this one out, you know, give us some space. Matthew, Matthew started researching other topics. And people became confused why he would do that. I get it. I, I think, I think Matthew was one of us. He saw the own Benjamin thing. He was more, he was more interested in the Nick Fuentes thing. He couldn't understand how people couldn't see through a lot of the deception on the right. And he became, I think he became frustrated that people wouldn't see through it. So he started, he started researching less about the political stuff and more about the history. Yeah. He's not even trying to compete with Brendan O'Connell. Yeah. And I, and I, and I understand that because a lot of these topics that we talk about, they do burn you out because if you talk about Jews, someone brings up Jesuits. If you talk about Jesuits, they bring up Luciferians. If you bring up Luciferians, it's demonic and Christianity and it's principalities and it's flesh and it, it's like, he, it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, it's not global birth, it's flatter, it's a realm, it's a sphere, it's a fucking, on the back of a turtle. You can't win with these people and it just, the more you grow as he, the more you grow as he was growing, you start getting a lot of those and it starts to get to you if you let it get to you. Now I always look at him as someone smart enough to say, I shouldn't give a fuck about Nick Fowentez because we're in different lanes and I'm doing my own thing and he should understand exactly why Nick Fowentez gets the, uh, uh, views he gets. One, he's talented. I'm not going to take that away from him. He has a very young audience that can just buy into this stuff. Three, he aligns himself with Trump so you get a very big Trump base. Yeah. And four, it's just edgy boy. You could say whatever you wanted to do live comment. You can throw whatever kind of money. Personality. Yeah, it's, he could put his personality behind that. It's entertainment. Matthew was more just research knowledge base following the money and I mean, he could have, he could have just kept that going and kept that going. And he's a perfect example of what you described, Davey because he, he wasn't afraid to expose any of the factions. He was, he was exposing how the Mormons were connected to the Zionists. That was one of the last things that he did. But the CNP, like that's how John Person got that information through, through Matthew. And so it's like he, he, he was, he was amazing. Like instead of being a Star Wars fan, he cared about following the money and politics. Like one thing people aren't going to understand and I didn't really understand because my, my family leans Democrat. Like they're like, they listen to NPR and they, they're still caught up in all that bullshit. I think Matthew had it the opposite direction. I think his family was ultra conservative. So, so a lot of his, you know, going after Trump, we got to that. He has. Sorry about that. Oh, you're fine. So I think, I think he felt isolated within his family dynamic because he would try to expose how Donald Trump was just this corrupt and they, you know, they saw Trump more as their savior. So I, I think, I think people can see through that a little bit more now, even Trump, as we talked last time. Trump is saying, you know, what, that, the last election I was beholden to these people, these, these shell out Adelson types. Matthew worked, Matthew worked really hard to hold people's feet in the fire to keep them honest. And I, I hope that's what people honor about his memories is that he did that. Like, that he just, he would find the research and he was almost afraid to show people his personality. Like, one of my points of frustration is people coming to my channel asking me what happened to him six months ago. Well, Matthew could have put a status update on the Matthew North channel. Just didn't for some reason. Yeah. Because, you know, I've had demons in my life and I've gone through times where not during my YouTube time as much, although I have battled through some demons through YouTube, you can check out sites that make fun of me about it. But, you know, we all have demons. And one of the things when demons come, you really isolate from the outside world because Matthew North was an honest person and I don't think he was the type that was going to put a Facebook post up that seemed fake. But he might have not been ready to be too real. I don't think he was going to talk about his feelings either really. I think, I think if he had gotten his head around live streaming and isolated himself a little bit longer, I think he could have got up. To that point, but I mean, it takes a really long time to get to that. You've got people nipping at your heels in the live chat. You're doing all these different things. So he was incredibly talented. And we have to remember, he was like, what, 20 years old? I mean, he's like, 20, 20. He was like, the only real thing that I know about him from just looking at the public record and there's barely anything. He was on the swim team. That's really all I know. He was on the swim team. And he really cared about researching all this stuff. And he, in my opinion, he really, like he threw a wrench in the gears of people like Joe Rogan. Like, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, like the first, the CNP, the first episode I saw of Matthew North was the three and a half hour deep dive of the Joe Rogan on it, the connections. I mean, it really blew me away the amount of research he put into that by himself with nobody else and really laid that out there. Aubrey Marcus, the sex cult, the supplements, the weird shit surrounding Rogan. But I think that was like five years ago and looking at what we're looking at now with Joe. He's at on it in Austin, basically running defense for himself. Yeah. And he's swinging a little bit more to the right, at least with all the censorship and stuff. It's pretty crazy. But yeah, I have it. Yeah. So I get why people would question the Yon Irving thing. Yon's not really high on my list. Me either. Okay. The website that they put out, it's like almost like a wanted poster on Canary Mission. I thought that was the, like Brennan O'Connell has a vengeance. Canary Mission has a vengeance. There's probably a couple other people we can name. Yeah. So if anybody doesn't know, Canary Mission is basically just, they'll call you out for being anti-Semitic. So if you Google Matthew, if you Google Matthew North, Canary Mission is like in the top three of that, that would really weigh on a psyche too, you know. Yeah. Like, you know, this, this person's a criminal. Look at what he said about Putin. It's like, what? Yeah. So you should, you're the same people that claim Russian collusion. And now you're saying this guy's an anti-Semite for talking about Putin. It doesn't, it doesn't add up. Well, they'll never like a Russian collusion. They're, I mean, I don't know what's happening with Hunter Biden, but they're just using Russian collusion. Like I don't, I don't really care if he fucked a 20-year-old. Oh, the Bobo Linsky. Yeah. Bobo Linsky and Russian collusion. Yeah. Yeah, like I don't care if Hunter Biden fucked a 20-year-old like smoking meth. Like I don't care. Really. Like it shows character flaws and Joe Biden's upbringing. But like the presidency doesn't matter to me. But I think the money laundering all that stuff should be investigated. It'd be allowed to be shown on major social media sites. That's all I'm asking. If all the top Democrats are compromised by the Chinese government, we probably want to know about that. You know, like, like, just not, you know, I hate to do a broadcast without mentioning O'Em Benjamin. But O'Em Benjamin is telling people don't spread the ugly. And I find it really interesting. It's like Nancy Pelosi is a Jesuit. Owen is a Jesuit. Owen doesn't want to talk about the laptop. Something to think about. Yeah. Well, we got Gavin Newsom, Jerry Brown, Chuck Schumer, Donald Trump is a Jesuit himself. Yep. No, that whole dinner. Yep. The dinner with him and Hillary. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, there's a big Jesuit power control system. And I get a lot of shit for people that say, you don't talk about Jesuits and offense. Like, sometimes it's just not on my plate. Sometimes it's just not. It's not in my thought process. And they go, well, you just think Jews run the world. And I go, well, I have many different theories on what actually runs the world. Like, there's, you know, I think there's spirituality and higher powers that run things. And I think there's a script that runs through things. And I have my own beliefs on that. And they might not align with anybody else's beliefs. Let me talk about that in regards to Matthew North real quick. It's like, I was like, I was near the, I was near this park. And I was like pulling up. And I remembered one of the first times that Matthew and I decided to talk. I was saying, can I get you on the phone? He wanted me to buy a burner phone. And I'm not, I'm not really in that culture. I mean, I get it. And I do think I'm one of the people that thinks that Matthew is a targeted individual. I have, again, after I talk to the family, there's snippets of emails. I'll maybe share with you guys for why I think so. But he wanted me to buy a burner phone. And I'm like, I don't know about a burner phone. I can get a burner tablet or something. So I buy this burner phone. And I tell Matthew I have it. And then he's like, never mind. So I'm like, like, fucking Matthew, man. You have me go out. I get a burner phone so we could talk. Eventually he wasn't that because he was suspicious of me. I was suspicious of him. We ended up talking a lot. But when I first met him, it had to be over like a burner phone. And so one of the reasons why I don't really stress over that is because I do believe in the demonic, I believe that there's like invisible entities listing in on everything. I don't really, I don't really fret over the NSA listing in on my phone calls. Because I know that there's like Satan's invisible kingdom. I don't think I think Matt believes that, but I don't think Matt came to the level of confidence and comfort and understanding because he was a young person. He didn't have all those life experiences. He was growing in his faith. And he struggled with a lot of the fear and the anxiety, paranoia, all that type of stuff. And it was going to, you know, it was going to take a lot of time. And he never he believes in deliverance, but he never really sank his teeth into deliverance. And again, one of my regrets was that I could have reached out to him more. I could have said, hey, Matthew, how are you? Like, what's going on? Know what's really going on, you know? And I think there's going to be other people who have those types of regrets. And, you know, just go easy on yourself. Because especially if it's suicide, you know, the typical thing with suicide is misplaced anger. And just give more people forgiveness and give more allowance for misplaced anger because it comes with the territory. Yeah. And I totally agree. And I don't know what his situation was financially locked down related. I, you know, there's a lot of factors in play that people are considering. They just think overwhelmed with YouTube, commit suicide to the simplest, you know, thing. And you just don't know somebody's personal life. You don't know family drama. You don't know. I'm not going to, I don't want to throw drugs out like I'm putting drugs on his name. I don't know Matthew. I don't know anything about that. Yeah. And I've never shared anything about that. And I've never spotted anything in him like that. But there was a hiatus. And a long hiatus speaks to either a couple of things. I want to get away and wanted to get away is not good unless if it's I want to get away because I want to get into nature and I just want to get away from this stuff and maybe he was working on a project to do outside work and he was filming and that could have anything. We just don't know. So people making assumptions just based off of a few facts that haven't talked to family members. Yes. Right. Verification of death. But verification of how it happened has not been has not been concrete. And I think people should really hold back before they start throwing words like suicide around because they hold weight and it's not only weight for forget fans and subscribers. You have to think of the family in these cases. Suicide ruins friends family and everyone around you. And some people look at it as a selfish act. Some people have compassion for it. But no matter what it affects you emotionally in a way that you can only understand if you had a friend die of a suicide. Yeah. I had a brother who died of a suicide in keeping my family together. Sorry to hear that. Sorry to hear that. Well, no, no. I'm that's around the time that Matthew and I were beginning to really bond. But you're right. You know, and the thing about it is it's never resolved. Nothing ever gets resolved about it. So that's why I know that about myself. My people this anger. I almost cling to the anger as as a means of focusing through the tragedy. So I just try to I just try to meter it out a little bit. And I think you're right, man. Like people need to go easy. I'm not asking them to like hands off the family. I if you want try to find a case number, try to find the obituary. Do what you can on the internet to put together a timeline. Part of the timeline that I'm curious about is I've seen on his channel. On his day when I checked there were five videos and then yesterday when I checked there were nine videos. I don't know. I don't know what's how is that happening. I have no clue. I think that's part of the timeline. So if people want something to focus on, help us build the timeline. If you have your own communications with Matthew and you don't have to share them, but just let us know. Well, like when you communicated with him last, but go to my Twitter and look at the email in April that he sent to me, it answers a lot of the questions about people's basic suspicions in paranoia telling you exactly where Matthew was at. He was pretty disappointed and frustrated. And that's your starting point. Yeah. And just to read something really quick, this, and I'll let you say what this is in response to Matthew North says, yeah, I'm completely dedicated to that path. The politics and everything else on my previous channel seemed like a losing battle and became extremely frustrating to me. Topics like anti-deluvian history, forbidden archaeology. It kind of sounds like Robert Sefford kind of style, work, if you're familiar. At Lanty and Gardens. But yeah, just basically lost archaeology looking into the past, you know, not like ancient aliens bullshit, but actual history of where we came from. Like, using, I was watching, I was, so you can, everybody can reconnect with Matthew, like find one of his old videos and watch one of his old videos and really connect with him. I watched one of the videos on the Kiefer Fuchs channel. I hit that name. And it was comparing the Jade, like death masks or statues of ancient China with the ones in Mesopotamia. And I liked it because it's like he's making a case that the fallen angels are real because you look at the similarities from continent to continent. It's almost like a Bryant Forster type research. Yes. Yes. But I think it did, I think it did touch a little bit on sort of mud flood type stuff, which I'm not crazy about. But, but I was watching those live streams and I get it. Like, I get where he's coming from. Listen, I stepped away, I didn't step away. I kept doing my streams, but I also opened up a secondary channel just to talk about other things. Like, right. Like, which, for me, that was fine. I just wish he had called it like Matthew North history or, you know, the name threw off a lot of people, including me. And that's why I sent him the email and I said, can you explain this to me? Like, people are kind of suspicious of this. And that was his response, was that what I included on it. So he says, I have consistently been interested in passion about and engaged in about for six years now, this, for Ben and Archaeology or whatever you want to call it. And ended up going completely different direction. I knew people would end up finding it, especially given, you know, I subscribe to my own channel. Personally, I feel these topics are the most important for people to understand in all honesty. I think it would do humanity a lot of good to know the true history of this world. Not to mention, it proves the Bible 10 times over with physical evidence. I understand this isn't needed for most Christians, but doesn't hurt. The name doesn't meet anything. It's just an attempt for some personal privacy. So there does seem to be some isolation there that he, he didn't want to put his name on that channel because he just wanted to get it kind of. He had told me too that he didn't really want his family to find out about his political channel. They probably already knew. Yeah. But yeah, privacy was, that was a big thing for him. He finally included his name, I think, on his PayPal on the backup channel, but he didn't want people to know that name. But he's a nerd. I mean, he's a lovable nerd who had a lot of passions. He stepped away from the culture war was exploring one of his other passions. And so it's very, that part's very simple. And like I said, he was getting his head around live streaming. He was getting better at live streaming. I think I could have explained to him from more of a marketing angle of like, here's where you lost people. But I think he was also okay with losing people, you know, it was just, he fit off more than he could chew. He was too damn successful. Yeah, and it's a big mind. And, and listen, you can be the smartest person in the world. It doesn't mean you're going to be a great live streamer. You can be the dumbest person. You can be baked Alaska and be a big live streamer. So intellectual, you know, I think it, I think in a Belker, the more intellectual, you'll probably end up on the upper echelons, just because over time you can deliver more content. But there's also just stupid motherfuckers out there that just talk shit and cause drama. They get the same amount of views as say someone. Let's throw out the personality stuff. Yeah. When he was in the middle of the world, he was just a pure researcher. I mean, he was just, and he could, he could find the questions. I mean, like I said, like the CNP, like he's like a, he's ahead of the curve with all the council for national policy stuff, cutting through the dialectic. It's not about left and right. It's about basically, you know, socialist type things on both sides. He would find the money trail with the Putin stuff too. It's like why, why, why would nobody in the mainstream media who wanted to prove Russian collusion narrative? Why would they never look at Matthew Norse stuff? That's, if people want to speculate about foul play, well, he died in September. Maybe, you know, maybe somebody was afraid of an October surprise against Donald Trump. That's a good angle to look at, you know, he died in September. They didn't want an October surprise. That's a good conspiracy theory. There's a lot of different takes that you could have because Matthew was exposing so much. Yeah, I just got to make a quick comment to someone. And I usually don't do this. Flipped K, you were in my last chat and you mentioned you just typed the name, Brendan O'Connell, 20 times. If you do it again in this chat, we're just going to have to remove you for this chat because you're not giving any substance. You're just saying Brendan O'Connell and it doesn't make it. That's, it doesn't make any sense. That's exactly the type of pressure like Matthew had, Matthew wasn't interested in having this saber-ravelling contest with Brendan O'Connell. Brendan O'Connell has isolated himself like Owen Benjamin talking into his camera about how everybody's a shill because they either, you're, you're, if in Brendan O'Connell's world, you're a shill if you talk about Brendan and you're a shill if you don't talk about Brendan. Everything revolves around Brendan. It's not, it's, I'll tell you what, if Brendan cares about the information he's exposing, he'll want people to expose the Israeli Chinese technology. He wouldn't sit on it like an egg, like it's a proprietary piece of information that he owns exclusively.