Police expert Conny Andersson discussing crime evidence with Ole Dammegard

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Ladies and gentlemen, the red or the blue pill. The choice is yours. Welcome to Light on Conspiracies, the place where truth and love transcend the darkness. Your host, peace award-winning researcher, Ole Dama God. I'm here today with my dear friend, Kony Andersson. And the reason why it's only a few days after the alleged attacks on London that I publicly predicted one month before they actually happened. And the reason for that is because they leave a lot of clues and signs hidden in the evidence. I have invited Kony because he's got more than 20 years of experience when it comes to police work, anything from accidents to suicides, to criminal investigations and so on. And so my apologies. I have slept very little last night. It's been very intense. Lots of interviews and so on. But I would like to take you on a tour where I will show Kony random images from different alleged terror attacks and so on. Most of the time he will have no idea what these images where they come from and so on. So I just want his professional view and diligent eye to check out the details and say, yes, this looks absolutely perfect. This is except according to protocol. Or if there are details that he thinks sticks out as odd or strange. So instead of the research searches like myself sitting and guessing and trying to stumble around in the dark, trying to look for clues and things, I think it's a lot better that we hear from a true professional. So welcome so much to the show. Thank you, my friend. Thank you for taking the time. Listen, I'm going to share a screen with you now and I'm just going to show images. I want to sometimes you will recognize them sometimes not, but I just would like to get you a point of view and say, whatever comes into mind, feel totally free and take all the time you want. Okay. So yes, yes. Okay, so this is a place where 60 people around 60 people are said to have been killed and injured and it the photo is taken just some few hours later. Any any initial comments on this one and then I'll start describing what is said so happened here. Yeah, since I'm only looking at the facts to exclude in the confirm what I see, I see directly up on the left corner, I see parts on the streets coming from these looks like houses. And that shows some kind of a direction. It's a direction, something has been pushed out on the streets. It's a direction. It could be like an explosion or something something has been pushed or been driving through. But what I'm missing is like when you go backtracking that direction from upper corner on the left. If you take that opposite direction, it's kind of a reaction. If you go there, you will see something like a white and black pattern. It looks like a chest plate or something. It's a little bit disturbed. But behind that, you can't see anything who is disturbed. So what I'm wondering where is that movement coming from? So I would exclude that this movement is coming from the second layer of houses. It looks like more like this movement, so car or whatever it is, have been driving this inside alley of houses coming from the lower part of right. So I'm going to come with that way and turn left out to the street. Okay, so I will tell you now that a truck is set to have entered here at the speed of more than 40 miles an hour. Can you see my mouse? Yeah, okay. The pointer here. It's said to come in here and then gone here. Out here stopped here. I killed some 12 people and injured about 40. And this is only a few hours later. So when you look at this thing, do you think would there be like blood of these type of things from such a crash scene? Would that be a natural thing to expect? Yeah, you know, if there are like 40 people, 40 people. If this is a fresh footage from directly what when it has been happened, you will find much more disturbance from like a paramedics ambulances. You know, a lot of tools that they have been used into to save lives. You will find more like lines who will protect the area, the recrym scene protected area. And of course, you would find blood. But sometimes, you know, bodies are pretty, pretty hard and stuff and durable bodies. So it's not always, you don't have to always have to see blood. But you know, what I'm directly reacting to when you say a truck, you know, you need to have some kind of precise driving to come into that. Small alley turn left turn left again and that will take you much slow speed. And to succeed to hit 40 people, that sounds strange to me really. How is possible to hit so many people with that low speed? Wouldn't there be like skid marks or brake marks or something like that from a quick maneuver like that? Yes. Yes. No, I just want to say this is from the Berlin truck attack where this area, the whole thing happened within this very, very small area. And it's not my mistake to say that this was just hours after it is like they moved away the truck and so on. But one of the problems I would point out as well is that all along this area, they're so called ballads, you know, metal poles. And they're there to stop people from entering or parking and so on. How powerful, how strong are these type of ballads in a city center? Is there, you know, can they're like almost a meter high? Would they be hardcore or would they be easily knocked over by a car? No, no, no, they're really tough obstacles. So, the car went and across it, would it would it make an impact on the vehicle? Yeah, and I have to see that the special obstacle because there are so many different obstacles. You have to make an individual investigation on every each of the obstacle because of its form also. And the speed from the car and different angles of it also. But would you find it odd if the baller was standing right behind the truck when the truck is set to pass over it and there's no damage to the front of the vehicle, nor is the. Yeah, you always have to confirm every damaged part or non-damaged. It's the equal evidence if there is a damaged part or a movement of track or if it's not a movement of track because that would make you exclude and confirm what is having been said. Would you say that this area would be difficult or easy to isolate if this was a staged event so that you could have sort of this area under control while carrying it out? Yeah, it looks like you can have it under control because it's kind of a controlled smaller area. But we know what I'm looking at this small alley where to me it looks more like it was like a kind of a slow speed but it was like a large forest. You know, it's a heavy forest because you see the damages on the small houses or where it is. It looks like it hasn't been such a high speed. It is there is a dash cam footage of the truck coming and it's it's calculated to be around 40 miles an hour when it enters into the area. Okay, and inside the small alley, what would this speed would be in there between the enter and the exit? And it enters here with 40 miles an hour. Yeah, but inside on this local street, this alley, you have from 40 miles an hour here, so 0 miles an hour here. So that is a very drastic you almost had to step on the brakes all the way, not even considering having like it's a the truck trailer. I'm a former truck driver, so for me, if I look at this, usually I would say you go in here with a truck to be able to make this left turn without knocking over these buildings, it's impossible because you could do it with a normal car maybe, but with a truck you would need a lot of space to get in and then the rear wheels with you. So these ones would just be knocked over from 40 miles an hour in here. Yes, there would just be skid marks and most probably the truck would have just continued straight in here and crashed into this area. Yeah, not to be able to come out, kill all of these people and then leave. Yeah, like that. Where the people were killed and hurt what were there between the exit and and the. There's a journalist there's a journalist that is on location only 90 seconds after it happens and he works around filming here. The only people he see are three people sitting wounded being taken care of, leaving at least some 40 odd people that needs to have been underneath the truck because that's the only place you cannot see them. So anyway, that sounds strange to me to succeed to hit so many people in that small place with that big truck. What would you the reaction of people standing around that were there when the truck entered into the area? How do you think they would behave if you come to the place of the accident just two minutes afterwards? I can only refer to my experience as a policeman for 20 years and I've been on so many traffic accidents and you know people are often so shocked. Sometimes they are really aggressive. They want to attack you because they are in such a shock that they want to blame somebody. And sometimes they just like a pearl eyes that is just like nothing contact. And sometimes they are talking and sometimes they are just walking around and screaming and crying. There are so many different reactions. So if I tell you with all of these victims and dead people and there is no screaming, there is nothing people just walking around normally like they were out shopping. Would that be a normal reaction from people around? Of course not. Would the bystanders try to help the people that were injured? Yeah. And the people are very individual. How they react into extreme situations. Some people are just walking away. Some people are just like getting almost like they want to not to be there. They are trying to be almost invisible. But in my experience, people are getting really upset. And you can see that for long distances, if a person has seen something really terrible, you will see that on the body language. Clearly. What are the language we are talking about? You see this really attention in your body. Like you are on your toes. You have this energetic reaction that you are nervous or you want to run away. You are looking in different directions. Like you are on an escape almost. Because the body is reacting on flight or flight experience. And the body in general doesn't make any difference if the threat is towards you or somebody else's. If there is a crime or accident, it is almost the same reaction. So many times we see witnesses and people being interviewed to incidents like this. And if you look at their facial expression, there is something. There is a smile. Is that a normal way of reacting in situations like this? No, no, of course not. But some people can actually react on smiling and laughing because they are so nervous and so afraid. So it could be really strange behavior to... But you will hear it in the voice. When you are bothered, if you have really been affected, you will hear it. Often you go down really deep in your voice because it would be a body experience of it. Okay. I will take you to the next one. This is from this recent attack in England. The official story is that this lone crazy person decided to kill a lot of people and drove up on the payment here and then hit victims on the left hand side of the bridge. It is left hand traffic in England. The reason when you look at all of the aerial footage, there are multiple buses and vehicles that are inside the corner of area on a central bridge in London. Is there a reason why you would leave these vehicles there if they are not directly involved in what has happened? I will talk in a general perspective as a street cop. What you want to do, the priority, you are always saving lives. First, always life is the most important to save lives. When you have done that, if you have already saved the life or they are dead, you are preserving, you are protecting the crime scene. That is the most important. Everybody has to freeze, dance still. When you have secured that, then you want traffic to move through the area. Because these types of events create massive disturbance of the traffic. That is disturbing also the work on the place. The police are not too fast. The police are controlling the traffic to start moving from the area and through the area. Would you not get rid of these vehicles that had nothing to do with what had happened to clear the area and get the traffic moving away so that you could isolate and contain the crime scene? If there is nothing evidence on these buses or any damages or something, you just want them to go away and leave the area so you can have free space to really investigate and start to have the traffic start moving. Otherwise, there is no reason. I don't know when in time this picture is taken. If it is just been taken because I can't see any bodies or so. They are still working on the bodies here. These vehicles were left there for hours and hours. And logically, there would have been hundreds of people on the buses that would be a problem for the police to when securing the crime scene. If they got off the buses and started interfering. In general, you freeze the whole area so you will protect life and then secondly, you are working for the evidence protecting the crime scene. And then you want as fast as possible to get to start the traffic to move because it will stop the whole city in traffic jams. So if you got victims spread along the bridge, would you not drive the ambulance all the way up to the victims and get them in as close to where they were hit as possible? Of course. The policeman's objective here is to secure the area so that the ambulance, the paramedics can work. As I said, the priority is to save life. So the ambulance should be in closest to the body and helping the people who is hurt. And secondly, protecting the evidence. So here you have one stretcher here, they're rolling one stretcher here, they're rolling one stretcher here, they're rolling one stretcher here, but all the ambulances are parked over here. The only reason I can think of that it would be a danger area. So you will protect the ambulance and the personnel not to come close. Maybe if there would be an armed person or it would be a poisonous area, then you always have the ambulance on a distance. Otherwise, you would drive the ambulance as close as possible because you have all the tools in there. Would it be a natural thing to leave and give CPR for like 30, 40 minutes on location instead of getting them in the ambulance and driving them to the hospital? It always depends on the individual cases. If there is a matter of life and death and you really have to make this person stop breathing and get the heartbeat, you would try. As you load and drive, sometimes it could be so complicated. So you will be on the spot just to get them started. But the general rule is like give them as much treatments as possible and just like load them and get them to hospital when it's critical in general. If I tell you that the hospital is about 100 yards from where this red bus is, the entrance to the hospital is just down the road on the left hand side. Right hand side, well, depends on it down in the right hand corner. Would there be a reason for all of these ambulances to park right outside the entrance to the hospital and more or less block traffic instead of just getting the patients in to the emergency as soon as possible? Well, it looks pretty strange. Well, if the hospital is so close, so I wonder why not the people from the hospital is there? Because what I can say is it's a really tiny picture, but I can't see so many people working and taking care of the people. You know, the hospital should be a lot of people be out there and helping. Since this is a disaster area and the hospital is just like, I mean, a stone throw away, would the natural thing not be to see hundreds of nurses and doctors and coming running out and trying to help? Yes, of course. So if you don't see any of them, maybe one, would that be something that would be odd? Yeah, but it's always, everything is depending if the hospital is already having a lot of people, sometimes hospitals are really busy. But if it's a catastrophic event, they always have an emergency plan. They always have this emergency type of group. People I know with my work as a policeman, every hospital has this network of emergency. They have this emergency doctors and nurses always ready to be employed in different catastrophic events. So if you have a plan for example, a plane crash or train accident or things like that. So since this is so close to the parliament that you there should be some kind of what you call it like security protocols on how to act together, fire brigade ambulances police. So if you have a plan for a police officer, you can go in and emergency. Would that be natural? What do you mean? That these type of scenarios should have been practiced for some kind of disaster close to the parliament for security reasons. If I take my own experience about black in Sweden, we have this special protected area. We call it the Hitz object. It's like a protective objects like the castle and the parliament and military installations. It's a special law called Hitz Lagans protective law. And it's really, really strong and powerful laws that anyone who is close to the object can be, you know, investigated and things like that. And there will always have plan how to protect it. And there you have a lot of plans and plan B, A and B and C. So it would be it would be natural to see a very efficient handling of a situation like this. Not that people were just running around and not knowing what to do and so on. No, of course not. If you're professional, you have been trained, you know, everything you what you would do in certain situations, you have been planning for A and B and C plan. If from different directions and different, you know, it would be a one attacker, two attacker, three attackers. If they have a knife or gun or automatic weapons or whatever, you always think ahead what will be the most threats. So here is where the car of the attacker said to have ended up where the front of the car is absolutely smashed in, but there's no damage whatsoever to the gate or the pillars behind them here. No tire tracks and is what would you say about a situation like that? It said that he's come full speed and hit two or three people here, then left the vehicle. I would like to see the front wheel. It's straight ahead or is it left turn or right turn? It's it's twist turn a little to the right to the right, not to the left to the right. So it's coming from the right or coming from the car has been coming here from the left hand side. It's left hand traffic and then I'll smash into these people. There's one victim lying all the way over here and two victims in front of the car. So what I'm reacting directly on why is the wheel turning to the right when it's coming from the left and the car is hitting towards the gate. The first detail I'm reacting on and I'm reacting also there is a kind of a liquid coming from the engine area maybe with some kind of water or oil or something. Wouldn't that suggest that it's leaking oil or water that it's been that there's a very heavy impact on the engine? And that will also give a clue for how long time the car have been there because it would slow in a time. We're talking about minutes here. Yes. Exactly. Here is an aerial shot of it. So the car has been coming from here and then crashed into this and you see there's an absolutely no damage whatsoever. This is a cardboard thing that a person came running with and put in between the car and the pillar for no apparent reason. You can see the front is absolutely totaled and there are no debris around the car, no skid marks, no tracks. So the car you say is coming from the left, you know, at the bottom of the, yeah, and you have that angle of that car. For me, just directly it's a little bit strange to have to have that angle so steep from the travel direction. Because you got one victim here and two victims, one or two here. So wouldn't the natural thing have been that he came like this that the end of the car. The only reason that this angle would be there in my opinion would be that there had been a heavy impact on a pillar or something like that. And the car would have been thrown in this direction, but you would have had skid marks or tire marks or any on the pavement. And the damage is and parts car parts and maybe you have a more detailed picture later. Yeah, yeah, no, there's nothing on the side. So anything here, here is if you see the front of the car, you see the pillars that's no impact whatsoever to the. So all this damage must have come from hitting people. Are these damages to the car in in what a correlation with hitting pedestrians? Would it look like that? No way, you know, I've been so, you know, so many traffic accidents, you know, pedestrians been hit by cars. And often you see a little bit waves damages on the hood and the engine. Yeah, the hood, the bonnet. Yeah, yeah. And often you see like damages on the front window. Often no damages at all because you know, cars are really tough, you know, rough and they are made of a standing accidents and big impacts. So often you don't find so much damages on cars when hit by a pedestrian, but that's just chance. So if you had just seen this car in a scrapyard or something like what would you, how would you interpret the damage to the car? What would you say? I think this is what have happened. This is a typical, you know, car to car accidents, I would say you say it's looked like a waged impact under the headlights. You say it's something like a really sharp object coming into that area and that is not, but that's true. A human car not do that, you know, look like really sharp and that's typical hitting another car, front or front or something. You can see here as well that the front wheel is turned slightly to the right. That's really strange for me, you know, that's the first thing I was reacting. So the only thing I would want to exclude, has he been reversing after he'd been hitting? Could he be like turning the wheels to the right and then reversing? Otherwise, I, you know, this is. But also this, this impact is on the right hand side of the car, but it should have hit on the left hand side. Yeah, you know, that's spontaneously the edges of this hood look a little bit older. I don't know, maybe it's alive, or maybe it's there, but it has this. You think that this damage or this accident occurred quite a long ago? Yeah, it looks like it. You have to have much more detail to see if this is a rust or something. It's get find it rusty. No, no, no, not that I can see. Okay. Connie, we keep seeing that victims and injured people have these blankets on. Yes, he's heating blankets in silver and gold. Is that normal to use on on sites after accidents? Yeah, especially when it's cold, it's really important to have the body warm. And if you can't move the body, especially when they are like stuck into a, you know, correct that often people are jammed into this metal, you know, you have to give them warmth. And you put them on blankets and this heat keeping blankets. But often you do that when you're waiting for the ambulance. Often you just like put them directly to the ambulance and you're rushing away to the ambulance and straight to the special trauma departments of the hospital. Because you know, some hospitals are specialized on traffic traumas. And isn't it also that you got like in Swedish, it's called ABC, what you check, clear the breathing number one, let's A, on me, B, stop the blood and see be aware of shock. Wouldn't it be a natural thing, I'm sorry to give you leading questions, but when, when somebody is walking around with these heating blanket, it shows that he's been or her, they have been taking part of some kind of traumatic incident or been injured. Wouldn't it be advisable for these people to lie down with their legs high or something like that instead of walking around all over the place? Yeah, what you do as a police officer and rescue in general, you have, you put people in special places, you know, you have dead people putting their heart, severely damaged people there and you put the other people who is like need attention or to prevent the shock. And you put them in a special and you never leave them, you have them close to you and you talk to them, you comfort them and you also want to investigate in the same time. So it's really complex to be a policeman. Taking care, like I said, taking care of life first and then investigate. So you are doing that in the same time. So you're making questions and want to investigate what has happened, what have you seen, what have you heard. Because when you leave the victims in shock, they will, I mean through this so many times, you know, if you leave them, they will go out confused out in the streets in the traffic. And you will have another accident. So you can't leave the victims there. And many times the people are, you know, you can't see it, but maybe they are being internally so hit by, you know, discreshes so liver and spine and other big origins are bleeding out. And I've been on many accidents that you see them, you talk to the victims, they sit in there, you have a huge crash and they are just like happy. You talk for them for 30 minutes during the time they are during, you take them out because they are jammed in there and you send them to the hospital and everybody feels wow. We succeeded to rescue this person, but after a few hours, they die because internal bleeding is so severe. So the water can't handle it. So therefore you, you really taken care of the victims. You never leave them. I tell you one time when I was working as a journalist, I went out to, there was this accident and it wasn't that serious. And there was this man. And he had been driving one of the cars. I spoke to him and he seemed fine. And then I came back. I called the police an hour or so later just to get an update and they said, yeah, there was one person who died. And I said, who is that? And that was that man that I had spoken to and they said he died from shock that he had just been walking around looking normal and suddenly he just dropped dead. That the blood pressure just went way down and he, he done. Yeah, he could have been saved just by lying down and legs up. Yeah. So as a professional policeman, you would know these things. You don't allow people just walking around, especially there is a dangerous traffic. Because then you will have another traffic accident. You're in a secure area. Now this is these photos are a bit random some of my apologies, but here is this a ballad, this steel thing where the truck is said to have. It has to have have gone straight over it to be able to get in this position. Okay. Would you not say, or would you say that a ballad like this would be lying down if a truck had passed over it and that it would have caused some severe damage to the front of the vehicle. Yeah. Yeah. In general, yes. But that there are always individual on the specific ground. If the ground is like a low sun or been hit before or something. In general, you will find that differently tracks, damages on the pole and on the truck, of course. I have even seen crashed cars that have ended up hanging on top of these type of, yeah, bent them over, but they haven't managed to knock them down. So here, so here we see that I have filmed this one afterwards. There's not a scratch on it whatsoever. And some witnesses have seen that the truck was reversed into position. Yeah, absolutely. And to succeed to succeed to knock this, you have to have a really high speed also. If you have the big truck in such a way, you have to have a high speed to succeed that one. Connie, here we see this golden heating blanket. They keep using these blankets. Is there a difference between the silver and the gold ones? Not what I know. There's always a development of all kind of emergency equipment. Okay. Here we're back to another situation. The hospital is right over here. I mean, like just a few meters. Is there anything you would say about the way the vehicles are parked or anything else? Why are they standing on a line? I can't understand that. That's the... You're driving as close as possible. Then maybe you will reverse because the stretcher says really heavy. And I don't understand what they are standing on a line there. I mean, look at the distance between here. Yeah. For me, it's... And would you lock it? Would you block in another vehicle? No. So he can't get out. Wouldn't you... Would you not be very careful to leave open space so that the vehicle could... Always. As a policeman, when you're blocking the area to secure the area, you're not to make it secure that there would be no more accidents. You are really open to have the traffic of ambulance coming in and out. You can't stop them. You have to be really aware if they need to leave the area and come into the area. So would this suggest to you that these are professional ambulance drivers that have parked like this or would it suggest something else? You know, to me, it looks really strange. Okay. Yeah. But also the police that are... they are also blocked in here. Yeah. Anyway, it doesn't look like... I don't know. Here's another boss that had nothing to do with it. There was no injuries, no nothing happening with this vehicle. And it's there as well. But this was from... very recent from the London things. And here on the other end of the bridge, the street is not blocked off by ambulance, but instead we have this assembly of buses. Any comments? That looks really strange. It looks like... The bus is a building, protective building or wall or something. How can that be? Would you allow a truck to be parked like this and adjust a normal truck to... Where's the... the protective area? Okay. The bridge is here going this direction. And the accident area, it's up... Where this car has been smashed into the wall is... Let me see. I'm not so... It is not the opposite. I'm not so dissu... It looks like the bridge is on the upper... I'm not totally sure, Connie, I should have known my apologies. But as far as I know, even though it doesn't make sense, this is on the exiting side. Of the bridge? Yeah. It looks strange in a way. But also, wouldn't you get the traffic moving? And especially like transport, like common transport like buses? And these type of things, they should just move, move, move. Move away, yeah. You want to, as soon as possible, when you have protected life, when you secure the crime scene, you want the traffic to start moving because it's a big city, a lot of people, and it will start to gathering curious people, so you just like... Okay. I'm sorry to show some pictures of mine, I've said some people, but here... We have said that this is one of the victims. Any comments? Looks strange. It doesn't look like a body, but... Is that to be the way a body looked if a boss had hit it? Hmm. How is possible to lay down there, because often, buses such as high and flat surface in the front, they're just like being pushed away on the side of them and to the front. And then they will be overrun. So, in this case, it must have been overrun by two wheels. Wouldn't that normally quite a gruesome sight when somebody has been killed by a boss? Hmm. Could be. The body is such a flexible, and I've seen people, you know, the bodies, when jumping from high buildings and in front of the train and things like that, it's really astonishing how flexible a body could be. Often, you will see the body, we have a strange form, because the bones inside the body is broken, but the muscles and the tissues are holding the body together. And is it normal that somebody who's run over by a boss have taken off their shoes beforehand? No. Now, that's strange. Also, one of the things in London is that right in the middle of the whole thing, we have a helicopter landing outside the parliament, not with bringing any important person as a fire, as I've seen, with a big, freemasonic symbol and saying, London, free masons on it. And according to your experience, have you ever seen ambulance services and so on being funded by free masons in the future? No. And it's within, we are really cautious about corruption. We don't want any funding with the police, the military, ambulances, and things like that. Here's one of the victims. Wow. Does any comments? Well, it looks like it's laughing or screaming of pain, I don't know. There's a series of photos. He's not in any screen, you know, he's just totally calm, not moving around. Is it on drugs? You tell me, I don't know. I'm going to roll up next to the ambulances. They don't put them in the ambulance and he's just been lying there. They've given him some, he has a mask in his hand, one of these things. So I don't know. Well, they have rubber gloves when it's not having blood. Is this not normal? You know, you often take them on when you come to an accident because you want to be prepared. But you only use it often. But there's blood and other types of fluids. Would you go from one victim to the other with the same gloves? I would throw them up and take on some. I'm not sure you've thrown up because it's so easy to, to, to, to, it's contagious, you know, the blood, the infection, or things like that. You, you really care for about that. Okay, so I'm just going to show you this one. This is the bridge where it all happened. And right across this building is where the entrance to the hospital is. This is the married hotel where the bill of a group have been meeting for four times. I was to speak outside the bill of a meeting in 2014. They also meeting there in Virginia. And when this happened just a few days ago in London, several of the victims and other people on stretches were being rolled here instead of into the entrance of the hospital into the entrance of the hotel. Why would that be something to react against? They were, they were brought here passing all the ambulances and then into the entrance of the married hotel. Wow, that's a sounds like a serious accident. And here we have another individual. One of the things that keeps recurring is the shoes, the shoes that have been taken off one or two shoes. And I can just comment on that that according to different Freemasonics rituals. You take off the shoes that's, if you take off one shoe that is a sign of that person taking part of this ceremony is doing it out of free will. And two shoes shows the, that you're humble on the location that you respect the sacrifice official area with, and so on. I don't know, but would you say that it's a normal thing if you sort of have serious head injuries to take off the shoes the first thing you do? No, the only thing I can think of is a bystander. We start collecting shoes on the streets. But no, if this is time emergency place, you don't stop to collect shoes. You, it's shoe, shoe, shoe, shoe, shoe, shoes. Yeah, all the time. And this is an international thing. Like this guy, he's the laughing guy. And then yeah, want you on, want you off. You can't really walk in shoes. We lost when you're on a traffic accidents. But this is everything from mass shootings to these, where the car was crashed up against the fence as well, where the victim is lying next to the front wheel, the left front wheel. There's a red shoe taken off right by the wheel as well. And this is the one laying behind there. Yeah, he's the guy who said to have done it. And he's walking without shoes also. There's a, they've taken off his shoes as well. I mean, as you do. Here's another person. This person have been shot six times with an automatic weapons. One of them through his hand. And this is the day after. This is a dramatic. Yeah, and what? What caliber? I think it's two, two, 20 or so, two, 21 or so, two, 222. No, it's quite a fine caliber, but it's like a M16 or something or, or it's like nine millimeters or. But here he has been, he's got six, six shots and one through the hand. And normally he, he's just holding something that is not what he has in his hand. Yeah. Well, it looks strange. If you've been shot six times with some kind of automatic rifle like that, how long would you estimate the time for you to be back sort of to normal life? That would be severe damages. Especially if it's like an automatic like an Kalashnikov or M16 or something. You know, the whole hand will maybe be destroyed because it's such a high energy on the projectile. Like nine millimeter like MP5 or something. It's the same ammunition as a pistol. It wouldn't be that large damages. So it depends on the. But would you think would it be normal to be able to sit up and talk normally with no bandages, but just in a wheelchair the day after? And then he would think so. Is it in the hand and where were more he? Are there or something? He's just showing it to us where it says live for the moment. There are these things in it. But he was, I can't remember he was shot in the in the back and in the back and in the legs and in the hand. He saved his life by holding up his hand so that the bullet he caught the bullet with his hand sort of the shot hit the hand instead because he was the attacker was aiming at his head. So, okay. But stop the bullets. Yeah, the hand stopped the bullet and then we know damage to the hand at all. So with that type of weapon, wouldn't you say that the bullet would have gone through the hand? Of course, if it's like this automatic M16, color, the color weapons, the, you know, the whole hand will be destroyed. This is Ankel Kolan from the Orlando shooting. That I've been. What, what, what can we gun? It was there, you know, I believe there was an AR 15. But that's the same ammunition of the M16. Yeah. And that, that would be severe damages on all the hand. We have several of these people that allegedly have been shot that are sort of showing just a week afterwards, they're pulling up their shirt and showing the bandage saying, oh, I was shot. Yeah. Wouldn't you say that being hit by that kind of weapon that is a severe injury that was absolutely. It's really, you know, those type of weapon, it doesn't matter if you are hiding behind a car because you shoot through the car. So a car is not a protection from those type of projectile. You have to stand behind almost the engine, but the other parts of the car will not stop. It's just really, really tough. And you're shooting a minute time through walls on how houses and things like that. It's really high energy weapon. I'm really grateful that you're taking the time. Can we continue? Would you have the possibility to continue? Yeah. So here is where this police officer said to be in stabbed in London. And we have this man who's been now called a hero. And I think he's going to be knighted for his heroic thing. The police officer that was stabbed multiple times and died is here underneath. And here we have the MP doing CPR on him with doctors standing around and so on. Would a medical team in such a situation let someone who knows absolutely nothing about the medical treatment or anything, would they allow him to do this at all? If he would be the first responder on this place, he would of course have to do something. And then the judges that thank you, sir, please go away to my colleague and he will take your report. But you all was protecting, you know, life is first, always protecting life first. And you protecting the area so the paramedic and ambulance could work without any worries of intrusion or disturbance. If you have multiple stab wounds to the neck and to the chest area, what would CPR, what would that do to a person like that? You have to stop the bleeding first, of course. And that would be a massive bloodlust up in the neck and throughout and things like that also. Is it possible that CPR could even make the damage or the injury is worse? I don't know, probably. It's just my logical mindset that if you've got internal bleeding and somebody is compressing very violently to the chest that that could make it even worse. I don't know, the bleeding is the most important to start this. If I tell you, I just want to point out this area, very square area around here. If I will tell you that this person had blown himself up with a bomb, what would you say? Yes, it's possible because you see damages around you and it looks like a circle around you. The area is completely square here. And there's no snow here. The whole, all the snow is here in a square around this body. And there's hardly any blood, even though it said that he strapped a bomb around him that went off. Would the police that are here let normal people walk around like this? And they are normal, they are not policemen. No, you can see there's an old lady with a hat and a cap and they've been out. Of course not. Senior shopping bags here. If I would be the policeman there, I would likely have done already, stopped the whole area in the background, nobody can enter. And I would directly, those people in there, I will order them from the area because now they are destroying evidence. If the person is dead, then you are protecting the evidence area. The most important. They cannot touch any evidence that's in my core as a policeman. Yeah, because you can see there's a whole big crowd collecting here and there's a police car that shots it off. So it's been there for at least five, ten minutes, you would think. And these people, can you see her shopping bags and they're walking around like normal civilians? The person is said to strap bombs around her and that they went off. But the only blood you see is here and there's no sort of like outgoing energy from where this explosion is said to have killed him. Does it make sense to look really strange to me? Okay, this is the claims stock on suicide bomber. You can imagine, but you know, allowing people in the crime scene, there is, that's to me, I'm reacting really strongly about it. Isn't this totally contamination of the crimes? Absolutely. Absolutely. You never allow that. If I would see that, I would screen to them, you know, that drop that object, go away, stand in the corner, I would die directly, you know, strongly. Because everything from footprints in the snow could be of great importance and these are super parts. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, since today, the DNA techniques are so sensitive, you know, if you just in the close area, you will put your DNA to others, you know, it's so sensitive with the DNA. So you can destroy so much evidence and also put your own evidence. Kony, I'm really appreciating you taking the time. I tell you, here is another, it's a very famous, famous murder of a person who he came on a bicycle, was stopped by a guy and then I think he was shot and the stab multiple times. And you react in any way against this, is this what a murder scene like that would look like? I'm reacting on the leg, the left leg. Has it been hit by a car or something? No, he's been stabbed with a knife multiple times and shot. Because the knife is still sticking out of his chest. Would there not be some kind of blood loss when you've been stabbed multiple times and shot? Yeah, or often it is, but sometimes, you know, but it's like it's sometimes it's containing and holding. If you don't have it, sometimes you don't have exit wounds, it depends on their ammunition. Sometimes it's just holding and stopping the blood coming out of the body. What I see directly is like the left leg, it looks like it's broken. And that's a typical, like, you've been hit by a car. But you have to be closer up to see more. Would you let people stand this close? No. Okay, this is the only existing image of Theo Fangog, a very famous filmmaker and critic in Holland, who's murdered by a Muslim terrorist, they say, by Muslim, it caused a lot of commotion in Holland. But I've been on location, I've been looking into many of these murders. And I would suggest that we're looking at a dummy here that it's not even a real body. Due to the weird angles, the thing, also the absolute lack of blood and this weird knife sticking right out of the chest. To say something more about it, I need to go to more detail, where he's coming from, where he's heading. He said that he was on his bicycle going this direction and by a guy who then, who was waiting for him and then stabbed him and shot him. And where's the bicycle? And that's really interesting also to see how the bicycle is in cooperation with the body. If the bicycle has been thrown or if you're sliding or crashed or something, or so that I would say a lot of things like with the car who's been hitting the wall in London. We go back to the scene in Stockholm where the Stockholm suicide bomber is. And if you look here, there's absolutely no snow, no snow. And then this area is totally square, where they still, they've left the body. But there's no cordoned off area. There's no forensic thing, but this body is still there and totally deserted. Would it not be natural to find like a cordoned off police, plastic strips saying, you know, not allowed to enter. Would you not have police on location? Yeah, if it's not on the other side of the corner, sometimes you, you rather have a larger. This is true. Yeah, this is. Often you're, you started to have a large area and then you can shrink it as you have been investigating. But you don't think all things are one of the main walking streets. So it's, you want to have people access to, to just move around as important it is to continue the traffic in the city. And there'd be some kind of forensic personnel there or police presence or anything like that. And do you find this natural, a Tokyo square area with what looks like snow and there's no snow here at all? The thing I would like to investigate if there is a, you know, sometimes you have this, you put up salt, and we will melt it. Sometimes you have worms, you know, sellers, some things like that coming out under, but it looked really sharp and. Yeah, I would like to investigate why the ground is clear up there, but not there. Because you can also see here is there's water. Exactly. This is a must be plus. Yeah, it must be plus or somebody has washed the street, but they would, I wouldn't think they would allow that so close to a crime scene to wash off the streets. Exactly. And also you can see that the level, I mean, this is almost like five, six centimeters high with snow, packed snow in this area and nothing in the rest. You see the on the wall there also close to the border to the left. You see on the top of a drawer, a box, there's snow on it also. So it looks like it's been no, there's no snow on it. Yeah, no snow. There should also be snow on here. Yeah, would be natural, but there's no. But would you leave the body like this for a long, long time? No, you will have it till you have you have secured the evidence and then you will take the body away. Of course, because the body going to the work of sea would have when you see the way this body is covered with it looks like a normal blanket, more or less, and then the legs are sticking out and so on. Is that a police, the way a normal way of police would cover a body. And once you have a blanket, it looks like a yellow blanket, it would be. And that's the typical blanket that ambulances have. Sometimes policemen are. Got them also from different accidents. So you put them to cover, but the problem when you cover, you will contaminate the crime scene. Yeah. And then you will be hiding a body. Yeah, and also wouldn't you cover it so that it wouldn't disturb bystanders and so on. And in that case, this whole thing with the legs and arms and blood around. You know, what forensic do do they if they want to investigate a body on the scene, they put up a tent. And they are protected from, you know, the environment and rain and snow and also for insight that people are looking, they have this. Mobile tent, so they just put it up there. So. We're back to where the stabbing of the police officer he's here. And then the asylum, the attacker is just being taken into to the ambulance. We're talking like very shortly after it happened, like minutes. And already minutes after that, we have this SWAT team arriving of what are they like 15, 20 people fully equipped weapon everything. And on location. Wow. What would that seem natural to you that they could be on location so quickly? Often it will take a while because many these types of units they have together their equipment. And it's within the it will take maybe an hour or so. And the local SWAT teams, they are often civilian because they are doing some surveillance often. And to put all the weapon seconds and things like that, it will take a while to come there. Because you have to gather, you have to call them in. So often it will take a while. So wouldn't you say that a person like this fully equipped with all the armor and body things and weapons. To be on location within a few minutes. He must have been standing around the corner more or less fully dressed. Would that be logical? No, then there must be, I don't know, it's hard to say about the English policeman. It looks like all this equipment you have to be prepared for it. And drive it, you know, where they're coming from with their police station needs this. But when you when you say that a person like this with all the equipment, it would take him like maybe at least five minutes just from the word go to until he was standing there weapon loaded everything. I, of course, it would take at least five minutes, even if you were standing right around the corner. Yes, yes, it's a lot of different gears. I think I have to soon leave my friend. Okay. Yeah, I have a meeting. So could we have not maybe five minutes or so? Sorry. Could we have like five more minutes and then we will continue later? Yeah. Just a few minutes more. Here's the truck from from Berlin that is set to a past over this bowl, this ball, ball, this metal pole that is the height of this and also have killed 12 people and injured some 40 people. Would that make sense with the way the truck looks like and what would cause an injury like this to the front windscreen? Wow. The windscreen looks like it had been hit something much more harder than a person. And if it would be a person, it have to be a really, really high speed. And on that height, you know, and they're like a soft Christmas tree sticking out of the window into the window. Yeah. I can't put them together. When you look at the hole and the damage to the one, doesn't this look more like somebody has taken a sledgehammer and knocked right there? You will see this circle of force coming from that hole and around it's like a concentric ring ring on the water is like coming out. And you know, those windows are really strong. Yeah, I know I helped a guy who had left his keys in his car and thought, we're very, I'm sorry, but I need to knock in the window. God, we were standing with big rocks throwing as hard as we could. And they were bouncing off. So on traffic accident with a car have been driving like 100 kilometers or an hour and hit a huge moose. You know, it's this elk moose. And they're like 500 kilos. And sometimes even the window is handling it. Sometimes the windows broke and sometimes it's just their windows are really, really tough. Listen, Connie, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. My pleasure. I'm sorry. I have to go my friend, but I just probably any time and I will definitely help with that. I would very much appreciate it if you could guide us through other of these areas and just in the same way. Point things out and help us understand what actually happened. So absolutely. If I can help, I will do it absolutely. That is so kind of you. Thank you ever so much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.