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The Melt Episode 18 | False Flags and the Business of Fear

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The Melt Episode 18- Ole Dammegard| False Flags and the Business of Fear. Dec 7, 2019.
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The Melt Podcast: I speak with truth seeker, author, and activist Ole Dammegard about the alleged assassination of Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme, false flag attacks and how they create an environment of fear, and how there is a whole industry built around perpetuating the fear machine.
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Hello, my name is Chris Snipes and you are listening to the Melt. Today's topic. It is a controversial one, potentially at least. It tests even the most irreverent of us. It calls in a question how much we think that the powers that be have our best interests in mind. It proposes that power structures are set up to perpetuate themselves irregardless of ethics or what most of those that are governed define as right and wrong. It assumes that the power which is wielded by the elites transcends the duality that most of the masses operate within and considers itself above it all and sees us as cattle to be manipulated. In the most sure fire method of its manipulation is by fear. Fear drives us to sign off for things that we never would otherwise. Fear can divide people into groups and have them fighting each other for causes that aren't even theirs. Fear makes the world seem small and dark. Fear causes us to react instead of act mindfully. Many can't come to terms with the concept that their government would do things to willingly deceive them despite the fact that it's been proven time and time again that it's happened many times before. From the Gulf of Taukan incident to Coentel Pro provocateurs, from blaming 9-11 on Iraq to the Tuskegee experiment, our government and those in positions of power both politically and financially have shown us numerous times that they are not to be trusted and that when the rubber meets the road, the value of our lives means little to them. But somehow, when the subject of these false flags come up, anyone who sees them as a reality or even questions that they might be often gets labeled as a paranoid conspiracy theorist. Yet anyone who's looking at the whole timeline of American history or world history for that matter could easily see that there's a pattern of deception inspired by greed and power that goes back as long as we've been tracking time. Today's guest, Olay Demigard, has spent 30 plus years studying these very things and has transparently given us access to his findings for all to see on his website and within as many public appearances and speaking engagements. He spent a lot of time researching some fairly dark subjects yet still maintains an immensely positive outlook. That's no small feat. I start off the conversation by asking him what he felt was the centerpiece to his life's work in raising awareness. I tell you, I was born to this world as a, I think, a confused individual who thought, what the hell am I doing here? And why is there so much evil? Why are so many people suffering here? And so I said I'm out on an adventure in life trying to find out what the hell is going on. Really, that was because I came as a vulnerable individual. I was not very strong as a child. I had a very, very dominant father who he didn't beat us, but he was his word, you know, if his law, whatever he said, there was no discussion. He was a former military guy and now I'm finding out more and more that he was very deeply involved in NATO agent to networks. And also that he had killed people. So no wonder that I feared him as a child. So I grew up in a perfect on the surface of the perfect family. You know, the surface was shiny and we were always presented as the perfect family. But there were, so I was brainwashed with this, it's perfect, it's perfect. But then on the surface, there was all of these other things going on that it's taking me almost a lifetime to figure out what actually happened. Because I'm at a point in my life now where I'm discovering that I've been living a double life, my whole life without knowing it because both my parents were involved as agents with NATO secret operations. And I mean, I had no idea at all until just a few years ago. But I think that this whole thing has somehow, I was born with this imprinted in my DNA to uncover trying to figure out what is actually going on here because things are being said, things are being showed and my feeling inside is I'm being manipulated here. They're lying. There's something not right here. So I think I was perfect for this adventure. You know, I came down here with a personality that needed fine tuning over many years. So I put myself without really knowing why in many, many different and difficult situations everything from I think I've had more or less old traumas. You can, you know, on a list, including murders and rape, you name it. I've been there. And also I've been, I looked for war zones for years. I was traveling to war zones. I don't know why I was attracted to it, but I'm finding out more and more. It was to try and figure out what is evil. What is it? You know, how can people do things like that? And also who are the evil ones and how come an evil person can have a best friend and can love animals? I don't get it. You know, if you're a monster, please be simple. And then I know it's an evil person, a monster that wakes up every morning. What evil can I accomplish today? But I don't find these individuals. I don't. Instead, I find that there's like these big forces in this universe, whatever that is, where there's plus and minus and there's right and left and there's up and down. We need the opposites to be able to understand what is going on. And there's evil and good. And it's almost like plus and minus, I think, you know, on a battery that both of them are needed to create this charge where we can be part of creating whatever we want to create. And so it's been, it's been a long journey of trying to understand what's going on. And also to find out that blaming doesn't work. And also being a victim does not work. It helps no one, especially yourself. And so how to grow out of these traumas, how to heal yourself and then be able to share these things with others. Because it's only when you've gone through horrible stuff yourself that you get an empathy for people in a similar situation. So without really knowing that I was walking this road, I put myself in multiple situations that have helped me to have a much bigger compassion for more or less everything that goes down. So I'm now at a point where I feel no hatred, no very little anger and an absolute dedication to truth. And that no way am I going to tolerate evil being carried out. I don't judge the individual, I judge the sin, I the action. And I would do everything including sacrifice in my life if needed to stop it. So it's not that I'm going to be good and wimpy. I'm going to be good and powerful. I'm going to be good. And my intention is I'm going to save this world. I, how I had no idea am I going to be alone. I hope not very because it's quite a big task. But I'm going to be part of it. And I'm not going to give up until this world. It's in perfect harmony. Perfect ceasefire everywhere, peace everywhere, equality, mother earth back in balance. The way was supposed to be before we ate the apple and greed started coming in there. So put the apple back. Don't listen to the snake and let's just get back in balance. That is it. And so what I mean more and more over the years finding out is like where does evil come from? And in this, whatever it is, Matrix universe, I don't know what I mean. But in this, what feels real life, there are dark forces that are not showing their real face. And I think really it is the longer I live, I really feel that evil is a power. It's not just a foggy expression. I really think that evil is a force. And evil is also if we are not healed and hold, it can enter us if we let it through our scars and through our traumas and through our abuse, whatever it might be, through our anger. It will creep in there. And the native Indians are talking about something called retico. And that is a mind virus. And the retico will just wherever you are not healed, wherever there is a little crack, it will enter you. And then it will start messing up your mind. So I'm thanking every time I feel these things, okay, thank you, thank you. And then I heal whatever, okay, that was the crack. Heal it, heal it, heal it. And then the next time, sorry, retico, it had to find somewhere else. And so life is wonderful, I think, because also the whole, the more complete I become, the more I start attracting, not traumas, not horrific events, not torture and violence and death. I started to attract more and more beautiful, beautiful individuals like yourself who are just being attracted somehow in this magnificent universe. It's like we're being pulled together, this family that we lost somewhere, that we, something exploded, everything I thought it was a shed all over the place. And now it's like everything, it's just like the DNA is pulling us back together. So a real family has been, or the biological, I call that boot camp, you know, that it has nothing to do with real family most of the time. Some of the times, the worst boil in the butts and the most difficult, horrific, trying, scrutinizing individuals that are there to purify you. They are there to purify you. It's like in Rade Yoga, they talk about tapas. You have to burn tapas just like you purify gold. You have to burn off these impurities. So is it nice and cozy? So it's absolute hell to go through these things. But it's in, if you stay in it, when you're confronted with your own impurities in your mind and so, if you do not follow them and let them lead you, but you stand up and say, I am going to stand in my truth and strength and I will take this fire and I will burn it out without throwing it back again. So if you are sort of, maybe you're accusing me of something. If I react in, however I react, is how healed I am. So whatever you call me, if you call me an absolute asshole or whatever, if I'm complete and healed, it's just words. It just sounds like, can pass like this. Okay, it's fine. That's your opinion. I know I'm not. But if I'm not, it will answer me and that it will poison my mind and I will attack back. So when these things come up in me and I want to attack back, I know, here's another one. And so, stay in that. Don't throw it back because that is when you do real damage. You hurt someone else when they try to heal you without knowing it and you slap them in the face back. Then you are doing real harm. So it's your responsibility to just, okay, fine, fine, fine. Instead of reacting, just wait a second. Just going to breathe here for a while. Okay, okay, what's going on? And now I can choose how to act. I can choose to punch you in the face. That is, but then I do it out of not reaction, but action. Maybe the thing is that you deserve a punch in the face at this time or that I'm going to save somebody if you're a bully and you're then fine, a punch in the face will be the thing that does the job. It needs to come from the right intention and the right place. So this adventure has put me into a quite extreme life. I had to say that. So I've entered into the belly of the beast and I've been searching out the belly of the beast because that is where it's the root of evil that I'm looking for because I want to pull it out. I want to defuse it because it is not right what is going on. This pain is not okay. There's so much inflicted on people that are totally innocent and in my world is no way am I going to tolerate it. So go into the absolute belly of the beast pull out the root of evil. That is the intention. So how to do that? Shit scary. I can guarantee you. And yet again, what is fear? Fear is where is fear? It's my fear is not with you. My fear is not here or there. It's only in here. So this is also the beauty of it. I become fearful. Where is it? Where can I change it? I can only change it here. So that's wonderful because then I can take back the power and just because something scares me, well, I can deal with it in a different way. In fear, I mean fear is the big one, right? I mean, once fear gets a hold of you, then, you know, it makes you act irrational. It doesn't put you in your right centered state of mind and you can't, you can render you helpless. It can immobilize people, right? But this is the beauty of it as well because there's only one thing we have to deal with that's fear. If you become fearless, you're free. And this is also what these dark forces are very aware of and why they try to keep us in fear mode all the time through so-called false-like operations. We're going to get into this area or terrorism or media or all of it is trying to keep us on a very low, low, low, freakness where we are freaked out and where they can control us because so it's very simple. I mean, love is, though, it's a very high, high, high, freakness and fear doesn't really exist except if we let it in. So it's like a fart in the wind, it smells horrible, but it's not really dangerous. We just have to deal with it, let it pass, let it pass, let it pass and suddenly, I can breathe again and it's a lot nicer. So these are like dark clouds that they try to force on us. And this is also the beauty of it because the ones that are trying to do it to us are so few. They are so few. So it's only through so-called psychological operations that they can do it, manipulating our minds into that we believe that we're powerless and it's the exact opposite. So happy days. Yeah, it's a total illusion. It gives you the illusion that they have much more going on and many more players than they actually do have. So I'm assuming that you just didn't come out of the womb, fearless. How did you get to the point where you feel as the resilience that you feel now? Lots of bad shit. Lots of bad shit. And can I just say that word resilience, I do not like it or because that is the word. They use that word as a covert word for real terror. The state's monoterrorism goes under the word of resilience. So that is a word I prefer not to be connected with. But fearless, I'm still fearful at times. But now it's more, it's ridiculous. I can be fearful of making a phone call that means absolutely nothing. Making a point with the dentist, I can avoid to do that. But I can handle death threats. So go figure, how is that possible? You know, it's like, it's ridiculous. But that's, I don't know. So it's just a daily, how to deal with it because that's not giving. Yeah, I think it's just like saying, okay, are you steady now? Okay, fine. So are you steady? Can you handle that? Boom. What about that? Okay, so this boom. And until you know, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then you learn to serve the waves and the waves become bigger and bigger, but you can still handle it. Is there fear? Always there, if you don't know, if you want to let it in, I can get fearful in two minutes. It's a 30 seconds if you want me to. Exactly. It's sometimes being latching onto that fear can concretize it too. It doesn't let it pass through you. It's like a wave, like you said. If you just ride it out, it'll end. You know, there's an end to it. You can get to the show. So sure. And very often, fear is always connected to the future. It's not connected to it. You don't fear the past, you know, but you fear, oh, this might happen. So if somebody puts a gun to your head, you will become fearful or maybe not, because maybe it's not even load. Then it's just a piece of metal. Or maybe it's made of a ridiculous, I don't know. You know, until somebody pulls the trigger and it actually fires and the bullet enters my head, that's the time to start worrying. Until then, you can play ping pong and do whatever you want. It's just like a mind game. So what is fear and what is it doing to us? And I mean, most of us are kept like hostages with our own fear. So it's awful. I've been living in fear, especially I spent like many years really digging into the assassination of the Swedish Prime Minister, Ola Palma. I tracked down assassins. I tracked down people that had tortured people to death. Time was a neighbor just a few kilometers down the road. I didn't think things like that existed in Sweden. You know, I thought, yeah, maybe in Chile or Argentina or something like that, you know, the death score is there. But in Sweden, are you kidding me? And then I had people murdered around me. I mean, that's a good one if you don't want to get fearful when you're not seeing people dying. And also I had a visit at home. I had to move or I didn't have to, but I chose to move country. So I left Sweden and I moved to Spain. I've been living here for 20 years because of that assassination among other things. So it's like, I know fear. I know fear. Was this visit where you home when these people came? No, I was not. And this is often how they do it because what I have, I have several friends who have similar things happening to them. They, you're not home. They enter your home, whatever that is. It doesn't matter if you got like four different locks and padlocks or alarms. I didn't have any of that. And then they just go in and they rearrange your furniture or they take all the books out of the bookshelf and put them on the table or they take on screw all the knobs and the kitchen or in my case, I just felt that something had been moved around and I went through my papers. I think, shit, somebody's been here. And then they put my toothbrush in with a cutler in the kitchen and then they took a photo of the crime scene when the prime minister was allegedly shot and killed and they put water on it. So it looked like the colors from the photo looked like blood that was running down and it was a photo where there was this poster saying why is the true Democrat murdered? So what they were doing was they were giving me a message. They were not trying to hurt me. But what am I supposed to do? Call the police and somebody moved my toothbrush and put it among the knives and forks, my god, you need to come here. And that's exactly how they know. You know, like somebody put all the books that what they're saying is we see you, we know what you're up to back off or we can get you at any time or place. So and most of the time it's very efficient and very clean for them. They don't need to get messy. They don't need to risk any so-called blowback. You know, they just freaked you out and you then over pull down your pants and say, I give up. And that's it. But in my case, it wasn't really like that because I just changed position and went under the radar. And then while being under the radar, I created a whole new life with my family. We started from absolute scratch and we didn't know the language here in Spain. We didn't have any job. We didn't have any money. We had to do. You know, we started from absolute zero and then started building this whole thing up. And then at the same time, I was writing my book, Kudita in slow motion that it took me 12 years to finish. I can show you. It looks like this. And it's almost a thousand pages, right? It's in two parts because it's almost a thousand pages. It's extremely detailed and extreme. It's photos, names, you name it. And that assassination or alleged assassination is mind blowing. It is, if you take the JFK assassination, where I'm also quite high up, the expert in that area, I was one of the speakers in Dallas a few years ago. I mean, this is even bigger and it's the biggest, the most expensive murder investigation in the world, in the world. It's more than two billion Swedish cromers. That's two. I mean, that could save the nation almost and they're doing absolutely nothing because they were, the investigation was involved in the assassination. That is the whole thing. It's always like that. Of course. These bigger operations, the investigation is part of the crime and so are the commissions that follow afterwards, apart of the crime, but only they are to cover it up. So why was he, why was he assassinated? Well, the thing is he wasn't that is that is the mind blowing thing or the whole thing. They pulled a massive, massive, massive, I don't know what to call it. The thing was I have not been able to speak about this for many years because I normally I need like five, six hours to go through all the weird things that happen for people to see, oh my God, this is just absolute madness. Why on earth would they do such a thing? Because there's always a reason. And then the last two, three hours, I present boom, the thing that suddenly everything falls into place. And what happened was that he was like a trojan horse. He was a very, very well known politician in the whole world. His name was Oropan. And he was one of the peace negotiators for the United Nations. He was thought to be the next Secretary General on the Native of UN. And he was way up with the big players. And officially he was just a Swedish politician. But at the same time he was a member of the Bilderberg Group and he was playing with the big boys. And he came from military espionage, all kinds of weird stuff in his family with connections to Alan Dulles in the CIA, Ham and Gouring in Hitler's chief of Luftwaffe. He had an uncle. I mean, his whole family are involved in espionage on a global scale, very, very strange family. And then what he was used as was to infiltrate the opposition. So he came from right wing military background. And then overnight suddenly he was a social Democrat. And he came, that was totally by design. So he changed political views like this overnight. And what he did in the early 70s was that he was the first one ever to stand up against the US and the military actions in Vietnam and other things. He was the one that stood up next to the North Vietnamese ambassador in a demonstration standing up giving the US the finger. So in the whole world people like, oh my god, who is this guy? This was at a time when nobody criticized the US, no one, no one. And here he came. So overnight he became like an overnight sensation and hero for people like the Sandhenees de Nicaragua for the PLO in Palestine, you know, Yasir Arrafat and these guys, Phil Castro invited him to Cuba. I mean, all of these A and C in South Africa, all of them welcomed him as a hero. But it was a total sire because he was a children host getting into them to the back way because he was there reporting to the big boys. You know, so he was an absolute sire and very admon, I didn't like him at all. He was a very arrogant, not very nice person in my view. So are you inches that I could go into some detail? Go for it, yeah, please, Phil. Okay, because like in 1982 he was, he was officially murdered in February 86. And in 1982 they found out that he had this strange virus in his system, in his body. And it turned out they did not understand what it was. There were lots of people and this was totally off the record. Nobody knew about it. I had no idea until many, many years later. And they were trying to find out what is going on with this virus. They're having all of these weird things, you know, effects and stuff. And then in 1985 they discovered that it's HIV. It was the AIDS virus that he had. He had, because he was, I mean, you know, he was humping a leg. He was doing anything that moved, including under aged prostitutes. And I don't know children. But under aged, I know for sure. And then women, you name it. He was there. And somewhere he retrieved this virus. And so they came to a point. This was also the social democrat party in Sweden was unique in the world. It had stayed in power for more or less 40 years in a row. So it was not just a political party. It was a power machine, you know, that was just, it was like a dictatorship, but not. You know, it was like a very soft and fluffy pink and fluffy package. But it was still like a dictatorship, you know, it was like, and it had infiltrated everything. So in 85, 86, for the first time almost ever, they were going downhill. And so that was a major problem, you know, they were going downhill. Because also with all the different military operations, the espionage, all of these things that were connected to the social democrat party machine, all of these things were threatened by this going down. So they really needed all the power to step up the game. And instead he was going down because of his disease. And it came to a point in 85 where suddenly, you know, you could start to see the disease. It was only a matter of months before it would become visible. And this was in the year when Rock Hudson was the first celebrity ever to step forward and say, I've got, and in those days, gay plague, the gay plague, you know, stamped in his, on his forehead. So suddenly, all of parliament and the social democrat party and the bill of it, all of these power structures were facing a massive problem. But no one knew about it because they had a series of crisis meaning, very, very few. They were only a handful of people because they were like, how are we going to deal with this? And he had this advisor called, called Lee Bo. And so the advisor came up with the idea. He said, either you do the right thing, you step forward, you say, I've had sex with other men. I've had, you know, I've had, I've been immoral. I have retrieved gay plague. Boom. This would, for Emma, destroy his name, his everything he worked for, his family, his reputation, the social democrat party would just, the scandal would rock them. You know, it would destroy them. Option one, option two. And here is where it came. Colleboom, his advisor said, why don't we do it like this? Remember what happened to Kennedy Martin Luther King, these type of people, Gandhi, the second, not Gandhi, but the second the bullet entered their head, they became a legend. Untouchable overnight, the name and fluorescent lights forever and ever, never to be criticized. What if we arrange a fake assassination with a double where you were being murdered? We have two ambulances, the whole thing is set up. We got two ambulances. You are getting murdered. But what actually happens is it's just a set up and you've been taken with one of the ambulances out to a private airport, then flown down to the south of Europe where you would be living with the in the castles together with the other bodies in the so-called elite. You will get the absolute best treatment. Your mistresses can come and visit you, your family, Shirley McLean, that was also involved with him. All of these people can come with just a tiny little change, your nose, hair color, foot in some iron, you know, lenses. And you can live the rest of your life and either die, you know, in luxury and the best treatment or maybe we can save you and you can continue. So what would you do? I mean, and you would be forever a legend. You would forever be this piece dubbed, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa, all of Palme, the legend. So what they did was they decided, let's do it like that. And so a small and handful, there were only five or six, but in key positions that started preparing for this assassination as fake. So from the fall of 1985, when that was decided, suddenly all apartments changed behavior totally. He was totally focused on creating the legend all of Palme, you know, by destroying all kinds of evidence that could destroy, I mean, that could mess up with the legend or everything that was dirty on him needed to be erased. So I believe he was sitting, you know, just with documents and file list, destroying everything, everything. And he's, and at the same time, he started acting very, very strange for the power structure, the bill of the group and so on. He stopped gunpowder transports to the Iran Iraq war. He, Oliver North came over and he wanted him to sign some end user certificates for some Stinger missiles and all of Palme gave Oliver North the finger saying, you just bogger off. If you ever show your face here again, I'm going to nail you and the rest, including Bruce Senior forever. I'm going to put you away forever. I mean, it was, she was shaking the whole establishment, but on a behind the curtains, you know, and, and like the Builder, the group and NATO and because he was doing all of these things that he was not supposed to do, he was suddenly he was saying no nuclear power, what he called it, atomic weapons in the Baltic area, meaning that suddenly the Baltic Sea was not available and open for the US submarines and all of, there are so many things that the sea, the Nordic Sea oil, he gave up the Swedish rights. I mean, people like what the hell is going on? What's up with this dude? He's gone mad. And so there was a series of crisis meetings in England in Wilshire at a place, almost like the place you see where James Bond goes, you know, and he's talking to Emma. You got all these agents practicing in the background. More or less identical like that here. It was a big, big mansion. And so there was this, there were two or three very secret meetings there where talk people inside NATO, there were some business people, there were also people from, I haven't been able to identify them, but from different intelligence agencies, I am 100% sure the CA was there in Wilshire, also from the Swedish secret police and military intelligence and lots of people there saying, what are we going to do? I mean, what's going on? If we let him continue, he's going to mess everything up, you know. So they decided to send a hit team to Sweden to stop him, not knowing that there was already a hit team there planning the assassination of all of parliament. Because when I'm sorry if it gets a little complicated because it is very complicated. Anyway, so there's one NATO team, okay? One NATO team that is there to stop him from doing all of these mad things. But at the same time, there's also a real hit team that is hired by all of parliament himself. He is the one, but nobody knows that the order of his assassination come from him. So they sent, because they need a real hit team. Otherwise, if they use people that were very close to all of parliament, a geek like me would crack it in a few minutes and just like, oh, that one, he knows that one, he was no emblem, that massive scandal. So what they did was they sent a hit order to a guy, a Colonel in South Africa called Craig Williamson, who had infiltrated Sweden earlier on and made his way up into the Swedish government all the way up to the top where he was actually writing what he called it. Yeah, writing some of the scripts for some of the speeches for parliament, not parliament himself, but people very close to him. So he was all the way up there. And at the same time, he was sucking out information trying to expose and kill members of the ANC in South Africa. I don't know if you know Stephen Beekle. So David Attenborough had made a film called Beekle. Well it was Craig Williamson in Sweden that got the information and sent it down there that made it possible for them to arrest him Beekle and murder him. And so it's on all different levels. But anyway, Craig Williamson got this hit contract not knowing that it was parliament that was behind it. It was like, you know, emission impossible, sitting, putting together a death squad. And he put together a death squad of people that didn't know each other from before, consisting of people from Mozambique. There was some South African agents. There was some South African agents, but Germans in the West Germany. There was one Norwegian. There was one American. There was one Italian Stefano della Chiai. There were some professional murderists that had done multiple hit teams all over the world. So they were put together and also there was some agents where they were trained at a farm outside Johannesburg called Daisy Farm. Cute name for a torture sensor. Charming. Charming, they're always very charming, very lovable people. And so they spent months, they're preparing and then they flew them up to Sweden. The death squad came up, the trains, cars, planes into Sweden where they were being taken care of by right extremists in Sweden, a group, a very rough police group called the baseball gang. They were taken care of them, supplying them with weapons, cars, housing, food, all of these things, moving them around so that nobody would notice, would notice while they were there to map the whole, you know, where he was moving, what he was doing, where would be a good place to hit him and so on. And so they were on location, mapping his whereabouts. And then income, so if we call that fake team, that's the fake team, but they're not, the whole idea was that there was one guy like the spider in the web, his name was call Gustav Östling. He was like a Swedish James Bond, even though he didn't look like it. Gay military, a bit fat, but a hell of a guy when he came to weapons and all of these things. So the idea was that this death squad, the fake team, would be flown in and then just before the assassination, they would, he would swap the ammo so that when they shot him, they would be blanks, but they would believe that they had killed him. If you had anyone that knew the real truth, you would have all kinds of problem with this risk of blackmail or distortion, you know, like if you don't give me five million, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell the world I'm going to, so the hit team needed to think that it was real as well. Okay, is it getting complicated for you? Right. So I'm writing a book now called Guilty Victim, where I write exactly how this whole thing was put together. This is officially, this is just like the J.K. thing where they still ask, was it Lee Harb or was it not? It was not. It was a massive big operation. Here was it the Swedish Patsy or was it not? It was not. It was a massive, but it's taking a, we're taking it to a whole whole whole different level. And so do you want to hear rest of it? Show me points or something. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. Then we'll move on to false flag territory. Okay, so what happened was that the weeks went on and so the NATO team came back and were briefed and they said, listen, there's already a team there who's going to do a hit. And so the people in charge said, well great, let's just stealth them. We just follow them as a shadow, whatever they do, we're right behind them. And when they do the hit, we make sure to mess it up and blame it on them. And also we make sure that he is dead, but we make it so that there's no way that this can ever come back to us. So, okay, so their task was to make sure that he died and also pointed towards the team that did it by sabotaging it. Okay. Okay, so this just continues and then the end of February, everything was planned. Nobody knew about this except the tiny little group were the ones that knew the double layer of this whole thing. And so Craig Williamson was on location. They had an underground base on the Raffaer station in central Stockholm where everything was planned. All of Pam and his wife went to the cinema that day without bodyguards. You know, this is what they always do. They pull away the bodyguards. And then that was the perfect situation because that gave the hit team the possibility to move in precision with plenty of time, one and a half hour, they knew he was going to stay in there. I even think that they did that on purpose just to make sure that that was the time that they were choose. You know, so he was in there. At the same time, everything was moving into precision, you know, fake police cars, backup shooters, some multiple walkie-talkie men. It was a military operation. But what they did not know was that this NATO team was there as well with snipers on the rooftops. So I mean, I tell you, if my book is not going to be a best teller, not because of me, but because of the incredible things that happened in this real event. I don't know what. It would make a fantastic documentary too, I think. I know, I know. And I've been trying and it keeps getting stopped, you know, because they are panicking now, because I have been exposed to a major level, I spent many years doing it. And now, thanks to other people as well, it's cracking open. And suddenly they can't stop the leaks anymore. Too many of them. Because it, yeah, also it goes back into the power structure and their direct connections into the blowing up of a ferry called MS Estonia, killing almost a thousand people, which was part of covering up their old truths. There were many police officers on board that they, that knew too much. So they sank that boat, killing a thousand people almost innocent just to get rid of these people. And then there were some of the crew members survived, but was then taken, put as dead, but it was actually taken as hostage and flown out of Sweden. And the people that flew them out, one of them, the air, there was a two jet planes, two privately owned jet planes that were landed and these people were secretly put on board and then taken, I don't know where they are, but they were flown out. And it was the US Embassy that paid for these two flights, the flight fees. And one of the planes were owned by a company that was connected to AIG, you know, AIG, the massive big insurance company with Hank Greenberg as one of the owners. And Hank Greenberg is one of the people that were the chairman of the Federal Reserve. He was, they were thinking about nominating him as the director of the CIA. He's body with Henry War criminal Kissinger. And I mean, and he was also when when 9-11 happened, where the first plane, if you want to believe planes, but where the first explosion happened, that were the offices of AIG covering up and destroying so much evidence that were going to bring that company down. And then, yeah. And then AIG was pivotal in the whole financial crash in 2008 when the whole world went down. They were super, super involved in that whole thing. And now I've just stopped what I believe to be like a 9-11 European version where people, I mean, some of these people that were in one of these alleged terror attacks in Stockholm in 2017 was working for a company that was owned by the son of Hank Greenberg, that was the owner of AIG. You know, so direct connections with some of the biggest things that have happened happen in modern times. So and this is why they do not want the real truth to come out. Absolutely, because it's all interconnected. And let's, let's use that before we go into the exact nature of what you were just alluding to the European version, this recent 9-11. Why don't you tell the listeners exactly what the definition of a false flag operation is? A false flag operation is an old naval term. It's actually a psychological operation. It is how to play ping pong with your brain. And it was in the old days when nations like Great Britain, or Holland, Spain, Portugal were traveling around in the world with their marine vessels. So powerful that they could just conquer and destroy anyone. You know, there was no, there was no equal battle stages went in and raped, killed, plundered, and did whatever they wanted to, which you can also see when you look at the map, the world map today. There's all of these Dutch colonies and Spanish colonies and English colonies and whatever. But sometimes that messed things up because sometimes it could affect trading agreements with neighboring nations or whatever. You know, if you were too big of a bad boy, so someone came up with the idea, why don't we do it like this? Instead of us always being the one's the aggressor and the one that looks bad, why don't we do it like this? There were whatever target we were aiming at, whatever nation we want to destroy. We just put their flag on one of our own ships and we let our own ship attack ourselves and then suddenly instead of us being the bad boy, we are the attacked one. So we are the victim and we just need to defend ourselves. And so that would then make the other nations applaud you defending yourself. Well done, well done, and you could go in conquer, rape, and plunder by while being applauded. So a force flag operation is actually where the attacked one is the attacker. The attacked one, the victim is actually the attacker. So it's a total psychological operation. And the pirates they discovered this whole thing and they thought, wow, this is a good one. So what they started doing, whatever ship they wanted to plunder, they just put the Spanish, if it was a Spanish, a Spanish fragata, whatever the name was, up Spanish flag, hide all the wooden legs and the eye patches and let's go close. And then when it was too late, boom, it was too late because the Spanish thought, oh, look, a friendship. Hello, hello, all our amigos, guitar. And then suddenly it was captain crook and whatever, chup chup chup. And so it's a psychological operation. That is one. There are some very, very, very important methods that I would like to describe. Because once you become aware of these, when a force flag operation is very essential, I do not know hardly any worse that have been started in the last 200 years that have not been started with a force flag operation. And the US, my god, you have used it a lot. So you have to ask yourself, like a tiny little nation and a powerful nation like the US with more military equipment than the rest of the world together, would a tiny little Arab country or whatever, could they even pick a fight? You know, it's like if Mike Tyson is in some kind of nursery and one of the babies peed on his foot, then that would justify him massacring and killing this baby. And you would say, well, the baby really did. There was a baby that peed on him. So that would justify the whole thing. I don't think so. The US have started. I do not know how many hundreds of wars. And if you look at any other nation in the whole world, including Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iraq started one against Iran. But otherwise than that, most nations have not started any, you know, in the last few hundreds. But the US, oh, my god. So this whole thing about the defense ministry is the war department. They used to have it right. They changed it to the Pingan Fluffy version. But as Chip Tatum, a CIA whistleblower says, the US military is the territory of the world. That NATO has turned into an ugly, ugly, ugly aggressor. And now they're trying to join these forces, the US military, NATO and the United Nations troops into one world army. They're to control us, not to protect us. So there's these old Roman templates that have been used, old, worn over and over again. Force flag operations. But then, you know, in the old Romans knew this was way before Twitter and telephone call, you know, and facts machines. And so how do a few people dress in sheets and some kind of flower pot on their head? How can they control a massive empire? How do you do it? So they came up with these psychological operations, I believe, and these have been used ever since. So one of them is that they found out the only way we can control the masses is either diversion. You know, so they don't look at us, give them gladiators, give them sports, give them X factor, something. Look that way. Enjoy yourself. Hello, hello, funny, funny, funny. Look at us while we're doing our stuff in the background. So diversion is one, divining conquerors and other one where they say, it's all the time a matter of, do not look at us. It's your neighbor that did this. It's the Muslims. It's the Hindus. It's the Sikhs. It's the blue. It's the green. It's the, you know, so divining conqueror, you go in and you mess it all up and then you point at both sides and say, no, it was them. No, it was them. So you start fighting internally instead of saying, wait a second, I'm not angry at you. Why should I be angry at you? Who's really doing this? It's them. So diversion, divide and conquer, force-like operations, then we have another one called problem reaction solution. This one is, I mean, this is the biggest one ever because they need you to be fearful. It's only through fear that they can control you. That's the key. Fear is the key. If you're not fearful, don't you just say, well, thank you so much. I'm on my way. Well, I give you an order. Otherwise, otherwise what? What are you going to do? If I'm not fearful, what are you going to do? So you take the power back when you let go of fear. So problem reaction solution is the perfect way of keeping the message fearful. So if there is no other threat, you create it yourself. So if I'm one of these power hungry psychopaths, I secretly create a problem. And nowadays, these problems are viruses, terror attacks, mass shootings, financial crashes, mass in immigration, these things. Okay. So I secretly create a problem. Let's say a bomb. It's very important that it hits emotionally. So if it's a bomb, I will place it in a building or location that is either connected with a building that has something of a national identity, something so it's the heart of the nation that it stabs you right there. Also it needs to have toistic value so that millions of people have been there so that it can, because we're talking about fear porn pumped out through media globally. So it doesn't work if it's sort of like Harrisburg, North Carolina. Harrisburg, where's that? No, 20 hours. Boom, there you go. Statue of Liberty. Boom, there you go. You know, these type of things or the Eiffel Tower or the Acropolis or these are the ones. Yay. Or you go for a location that has this national value. So or you go for census of transportation like airports, bus stations, train stations, these things so that people freak out. For one thing, the violence needs to be random. So it's not a specific target because if I know that the target was Mr. Peter Jones or whatever his name is, and they hit him, then I know they hit Peter Jones. Is it sad or is it not? I don't know. But if it's random, then it could have been me. It could have been my daughter. It could have been my neighbor. You know, so supermarkets, train stations, airports and also they want to paralyze people so that they don't want to move, you know, that they stay in where you can control them. So that is, I believe, why they hit. They also love to hit bridges and so that you cut transportation. So also we have vehicles that drive into crowds. I don't know when you grew up, but people used to know how to drive. You know, apparently the skill is not, it's going downhill very fast. The thing is problem reaction solution. The vehicle into a crowd. Oh my god, that's a problem. What's the problem? The vehicle is the problem. So they want the reaction from you. Oh my god, that's horrible. So we have a reaction. So we don't take a step back. Think, we take a walk, come back and act. They want to just, oh my god. And then they want us to turn towards the people that we think are there to protect us. Not understanding that it's actually that we're creating it. Saying, please, please protect us. We need protection. And they will then say, well, the only solution we can come with with this horrible problem is and boom, there it comes. And it's every single time the same solution. More and more surveillance, more and more militarized police, more and more. You giving up your civil rights, your liberal rights, you paying for unjust wars. You are the loser. You are the ones losing every single time. But it's for your protection because we care so much for you. So also, let's say it's a bomb. They place these bombs where they need an emotional reaction, where we don't think we just react emotionally. So how many of these terror attacks have you seen where old blocs like you and me are being blown to pieces? Have you seen that? Not very often. No. What about children, women, young women and children? That's the one. That's the one. Concerts. Concerts with musicians that appeal to younger people. Exactly. We're coming to concert because they're used to all of these big ones. So now they go for sports arenas or concert arenas because then you can target also whole generation. Oh my god. I am a grandeur. I love that. I love that. Boom. Always that sad. And then it will affect teenage girls everywhere or boys or whatever. They are targeting. So it's the emotional thing they're looking for. And also if they go for men, especially in Catholic countries, it would be a Catholic preach that would get his throat cut or it would be sometimes in the US they try with veterans, but it doesn't really work because that can get the flag going, but that doesn't really work. So normally women and children and high school students, you know, the mass shootings. So would you, sorry, no, go ahead. No, so it depends on in what country you are moving forward because we had to understand this operation. You have to look from a global point of view. It's not a matter of the US and France and England and it's not the world is like a chessboard for them. And these countries are just like pieces, you know, playing like franchises that are being played around. So it's the exact same agenda that is being rolled out, you know, it's called the New World Order. And you can read about it in the agenda 21, agenda 30. It's right there in front of your face. What are they want to do? What are they trying to do? And they're pushing it, pushing it, pushing it. So I go back to the vehicles, boom, that drives into crowds, why vehicles? You will see, oh my God, people got killed. It's so awful. What are we going to do? Well, apparently people can't be trusted to drive cars anymore. So we need driverless cars and incomes, the autonomous vehicles. You can see there's an attack the week after here's a bus that can take you to your library and it hasn't even got a driver. And that is then the next step into what is called the smart cities where everything is speaking to everything. You're toilet, your phone, your TV, your fridge, and your chip when you get chipped as well, your passport, everything is speaking to each other, controlling you where they will have total control of you through 5G. So bad news, bad news, bad news. So problem reaction solution, that is crucial. And it's very interesting nowadays because the concentration span is so short for most people due to fluoride and chemtrails and you name it. So they need to deliver this message very fast. They can't wait for you like in the old days like problem, boom, and then reaction, and then the solution. They have to go problem reaction solution. So very often you can see that something happens, a mass shooting outside in a church, they love all the churches because then once again, how could they go emotional? A mass shooting, then there's a reporter that many times the reporter will be part of the operation. The reporter will enter you a victim, no eyewitness, part of the operation. So what happened, the witness will say, well, there was blood and dead and heads were rolling everywhere. It was awful, awful, awful. So you said in your sofa saying, oh my god, Betsy, that's awful, isn't it? Yes dear friend, it is really awful problem reaction. And then the reporter, because they don't want you to order a pizza or change channels, then the reporter will serve you, well, that just shows you we have to and boom, that's where the solution comes. You have to ban the guns. In the US, the reason for the mass shootings occurring more or less only in the US is because you're the only country in the world with weapons. They do not want you the normal person to have weapons because they're extreme cowards, they just want to be walking, take over and that's it. So would you say that there were maybe three kinds of false flags, ones that involve innocence, ones that involve what has been termed crisis actors and then ones that are a combination of both of those? It's the false flag is just a psychological operation. And when we look at what is being played out, there used to be real victims, like in Pearl Harbor and these places where real people were getting killed and slaughtered horrifically. But then I believe that over the years, one of the things that these masters of manipulations have really had major problems with our mothers. A mother who loses a child, doesn't matter if that child is 54, will not back down until she finds out what happened to my child. And these women become absolute fearless. They will breathe down your neck and they will not let you alone. So especially after I think after 9-11, even though the number of victims doesn't match up at all to the official story, but still a lot of people got killed there, I believe. There were all of these women that just kept bugging and bugging. And then this over the years also, because this has been going on for a long time, the number of mothers that will not back down has just multiplied over the years. So it's become more and more difficult for these dark forces to move freely. And that I believe is why the so-called crisis actor were born. And that was somewhere, I don't know. I'm sure it's a lot earlier than Iran, I'm aware of. But I know for sure that there was a big step up when it came to crisis actors around Sandi Hook and the Boston bombing. That the Boston bombing, 100%, Sandi Hook, 100%, but it started scaling like this. And so crisis actors, but nowadays you can hire not only crisis actors, you can hire complete crowds. How many do you need? 204 or the 600? There's a company called Crowds on Demand that delivers crowds anywhere. They will even help you with the script. Do you want what you want? Raleigh, which is a pro abortion against abortion. Are you a rock star with no fans? We can deliver the fans. Are you Hillary Clinton? I don't have any supporters. We can have people there with flags and do whatever they will help you as well. And you can rent dead bodies. You can rent mourners. There's rentdemonor.com.co.uk where people that are good at crying, a few knows, very few knows. Or if you were a bastard when you were alive, you can make a prepayment. So when you die, there will be people in the church looking like they were grieving you. I mean, the whole thing is set up. It's set up. And some companies are making absolute fortune on their terror. It's an absolute joke. The whole thing. It's the rocky horror show. And there's actually been instances where the same people have been seen at different events, right? At different flag operations. Yeah, that's one of my specialities. I've been tracking these pogas down. I have been breathing down the neck for years and years. I have especially one who's, she's been part of five different operations at least. And I forgot her name now, but I love her. I mean, she even has a website of her own where you can rent her, she lives in Sandihoek by the way, they're close there. You can rent her for parties. She plays the saxophone, she writes poetry and she's a crisis actor. So she can stand and cry and be a witness and Victorian, Victorian, no misgiveness or something like that. I'm sorry, I can't. But no, you have several, a couple of the parents in Sandihoek. I mean, in one part, he's the father of one of the two killed children. And then in the next clip, he's one of the military guys walking in the background at the live footage, you know, with it, he can't even hold the rifle right, he's holding an upside down. And then the next one, he's sitting together with Obama and the next one, he's sitting together with Oprah, talking about these things. But it's all absolute fake. Once you start really digging into what happened, you will find out it is absolute fake, not every single one, but some of them 100% fake. And so I did not answer your question. Yes, sometimes they're real victims. Yes, sometimes they're only crisis actors. And sometimes there's what I called, I don't know if that's the correct term, but I called them a hybrid, you know, where they use crisis actors. For instance, when they do up the government building in Oslo, Norway, on one side of the building, there were crisis actors. On the other side, there were some innocent people that got killed, I believe, in what is said to be an explosion. It wasn't an explosion, it was an implosion, which is being used more and more in these days together with directed energy weapons. And you say that sometimes there's a definite link between what they say are rehearsals for crisis situations and the events themselves, like they happen very soon after that or even at the same time. God, usually. God, I think I'll. Okay, they're called drills. And the drills is the blessing for us, normal people, because the drill is the giveaway, because they need many, many times, if it's a big event, they need to get us out of the way. And so they will say, well, tomorrow we are going to have a security drill for your protection. So we just need to shut off this area. Very often it's areas that are easily controlled. So you just get everybody out. And then during the drill, they get all the vehicles' infositions, smoke bombs, explosives, crisis actors, you name it, infositions, they also rehearse. I'm not saying every single drill is like this. I'm saying when they pull off one of these, there's always a drill before. There's always a drill before. So one of the drills, a drill is a dead giveaway of something very bad, possibly happening. So also this is during the drill that they will make sure to have high quality photos that can be spread globally in media. You know, these super sharp images of people with blood everywhere, victims and horror, because they can't have it, you know, in the middle of something, you know, people are running around and suddenly, oh, shit, the camera is not working. Can please, please, can we stop? No, sorry, it's real live, you know, so they need to make sure that's also where they do what I call the catwalk death. There's many, many times where these alleged terror attacks happen. You have somebody with a camera, a totally out of focus, super, super, you know, not sharp images. And this person is walking around among the victims and you will see people kneeling with the victims, not professionals, but other bystanders. And so it's so on sharp that you can't really see any facial features of who are they, you know, but it's just he walks around or she walks around among, it's just so you get, oh my god, that's so awful. I call it the catwalk of death. It's absolutely baloney. But it's there to be used. And then sometimes also they do footage. There will then be used as live footage. So you can see breaking news now live from London, terror attack in central London. Okay. And then you have some footage. Please check the, check the sky in the background, check the shadows and you will sometimes see that, oh, there's big clouds there. And then suddenly it's a clear blue sky. How did that happen? It's because it's not, it wasn't filmed on the same day. Why are there no terror attacks when it's raining? Why is that? It's never on a rainy day. Why is that? Because they need, they're very aware that these, the skies and the clouds can be give away. So they try to avoid that, you know. I dare you show me one terror attack on a rainy day. On a cloudy dark cloudy day. I don't think so. Good point. Or two random mass shootings on the same day has it ever happened? No. It's all, they place it like here, then there, then here, then there, then here, then there. So that it covers as big a field as possible. So do you think that the impetus for staging these things is to, well, obviously it's to spread fear, but is it to beg us to ask for basically a police state? Is it for some greater occult reason or plan? What are your thoughts, a combo of each? The answer is yes to mollus everything you're going to suggest. It's multi-layered. Now, I don't understand the whole thing for sure. I don't understand a lot of the occult things, but I know that there, there, I can see the dates are being repeated. The number, numerology things repeated. The numbers on the cars, the number, when you put together names of witnesses and victims in what are the geometries? I mean, it comes out like 33 more or less all the time. So there's this occult thing. Also it's the same dates that are being used over and over again, like Halloween, Valentine's, Veterans Day, these type of, and also you got in April, there's fire sacrifice and around Halloween. There's also fire sacrifices where they want people to burn to death. It's absolutely awful. But it's so, and also for some reason it's very often on the 22nd of different months that they hit the 22nd of March, 22nd of November. Maybe there's a six month thing that I don't know, you know, I'm not an astrologer or I don't know, but I can see a very clear pattern. So that that aspect and then there's the new world order agenda which we've talked about all the time, that they want to take over the world and make it into one global fascist dictatorship with a one world religion. This is why they're trying to fight the religions against each other, Islam, Christianity, these things. So that in the end they would just say, well, the only way we can make you become peaceful together is by here comes boom, the new world, the new world religion. And that I believe would be based on climate. They have this whole thing about the climate that they're going to turn into a uniting thing. We're going to save the global climate and we will stand and say, hell, no, you're in the background. This is where people like Gritza, Tumbe and people are being used so brutally. I mean, this is not just a little tiny girl, 12 years, 16 years old, that's suddenly the Pope and Obama and when I hang out with absolute, this is a very, very advanced coordinated side of pushing us into this dictatorship through climate change. They claim climate change. This whole CO2 thing, it's an absolute joke. It's based on absolute 100% fake science. CO2 is good for us. I mean, without it, nothing would grow. But what they're trying to is to, in the end, they want to tax us even for the air we're breathing so that we should be punished for breathing out and only allow to be breathing in. And also the CO2, then they can go onto the food because they're carbon inside the food. It's like a never stopping game. If they want to get the climate back in balance, stop chemtrating or stop using heart and crap, that would sort it out. That would sort it out overnight. Well, and you, please go ahead. No, and they want a one-world microchip population. Once you got the chip in you, you're screwed. I'll tell you that. Many of us have already, I think we already have this chip through the vaccinations. It's nanotechnology. If you didn't notice, but when you got the vaccine, there was a number on the needle and that number, they also wrote down your identity, boom, and there you go. So it's, I don't want to freak people out, but I tell you, stay away from these vaccines. They're untested. And if you look at the criminals behind these companies, they're ruthless mass murderers. I mean, the vaccine, our kids have never been close to an needle. And my wife had never been vaccinated. They've never been sick at all. And if these vaccines were so good, why do you want to make the mandatory? It would be enough for you and your kids and the loved ones to take them you, then you're safe. Then let everybody else decide, no, no, no. Everybody needs to be forced to take them. Well, apparently they're not very good then. No. And if you look what's in them, oh my God. Oh, yeah. It's like, oh, it's like a mom Santa. Just look, gumbo. It's like, if there was a news story saying, there's this serial killer who was walking around the dark streets of New York, he's dressed in a white coat with a status code and he's got this killer machine with a needle. And he ejects people with formal, formal, formal, formal, maldehyde and heavy metals things and aluminum and things from features and viruses, live viruses and stuff. You'd like, oh my God, stop the mad person. But it's your local doctor who even gets bonuses and who's not aware what he's doing and a loving nurse who's believed that she's doing the right thing. To parents that think that they're doing the right thing for their loved children, but they're murdering them. This is the horror of their destroying them. All of this autism and ADHD and I don't know whatever they want to call, lots and lots and lots and lots of it is based on the vaccines. If this body is a fantastic, magnificent thing that has an immune system that can deal with everything, anything. If you just keep it pumped up so it's like, yay, baby, bring it on. It doesn't matter what you put in there, cancer viruses, whatever, it can deal with it. But if you go and bypass all the security barriers through your skin and with a needle, you bypass everything and you pump it in on the inside, this poor little child that just arrived to this world has no chance whatsoever. So back to the false flag operations. No, I totally appreciate that, Rand, and I'm right there with you. Absolutely. You mention more than once a free Masonic kind of tie into all this. And then you've also mentioned more than once the free Masonic symbolism of hues. What the hell is that all about? Please tell me. I know. I know. It's like over the years, I spent almost 40 years, can you believe it, digging around in this type of madness. And over the years, I had, I had to, since I looked into so many hundreds different cases, I need to have a very perfect system, categorizing file system. And I have that