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Tonight folks, you'll notice the absence of our normal lead-in music. You'll also notice that we're not going into any type of a musical selection to introduce the subject matter of this program as we usually do. Simply because I want to devote the maximum amount of time to our special guest tonight, Mr. Jordan Maxwell. Now, I never met Jordan Maxwell in my life until today. I don't really know him personally. I have been introduced to him, circulately, through a bevy of my own personal friends, whom after listening to my lectures, after reading my book, realized that Mr. Jordan Maxwell and I have quite a bit in common. They prompted me, pushed you, you might say, to meet with this gentleman. I guess that you had the same treatment on your end. Jordan has a fascinating background. He has paralleled my research in me, avenues, in many areas, and has come up with the same conclusions, the same results, the same answers to the questions that I have asked all my life. Tonight, we're going to be talking about the answers that he has come up with. But first, I'm going to ask him to introduce himself to our listening audience. Jordan, well thank you very much for asking me to be here. My name is Jordan Maxwell, as we said. As of 1959, I became very interested in the subject of secret societies and subversive movements. I came about it because of my family when I was very small. My mother's uncle worked in the Vatican's Secretary of State's Office as a civilian. And on occasions when he would come back to home to visit back to this country, he would sit and talk for hours about the intrigue going on throughout the world behind the scenes of religion and politics and all the various plans that are being implemented by governments and religion. And I became fascinated with this subject. Since then, I have, as I said, since 1959, I have really delve into the subject myself. And I find the more that you find out about the subject the more you know how much you don't know because there's an enormous subject that takes in not only the paternal orders, the secret societies, the free masonry, the occult societies going back into the most ancient world, going back to priests of Marion, and those symbols and emblems which were used in the ancient world are now even used in our modern day world and we don't even realize it. As a matter of fact, things like the oil companies, the automotive companies, the cigarette companies, use symbols and emblems in the course in government, national institutions, educational institutions, our world is filled with symbols. And symbols are like the letters of the alphabet. If you put enough of them together, they spell a word and you put a lot of them together and they tell you what story. The story I am talking about is the secret societies and occult orders that go all the way back into the ancient world and I believe in its my opinion that they are still in operation today behind our major religions and major governmental agencies. The symbols and emblems you can see with your own eyes and do some research and you'll find that they go back into the ancient world. Now we'd like to talk about that there's a separation of church and state in America. The fact that a matter is no such separation exists. There is a very direct connection between the religious establishment in this country and the political establishment and as you probably well know has always been the case all the way back to the priests of Americans. The king was always the mediator between God and man as well as being head of the temple state. The Pharaohs of Egypt perfected this so that they were both gods and marbles who were ruling the state. The Caesar's picked up on this of course and has come down through the ages and even in our country of America today we have a direct connection between church and state and let me draw your attention to this make you an example here. Churches when you go into most churches you will find that there are like three tiers high and then the office sits on the top tier. The same is true in a courtroom you go in and to a courtroom and you'll see that the that the bench sits on three tiers high and the three tiers high has been traced in the reference works of Freemasonry to the first three degrees of Freemasonry. That's correct. Yes and so then you have the priest who comes out the clergy who comes out with a long robe and incidental there's a reason why clergy always wear long robes is because it's a female garment and it represents the feminine connection with God and that's why clergy wear a long robe. It also has to do with when the clergy wears the long robe the the judge when the judge comes out he wears the same long black robe. It's the same black robe that you wear when you graduate from university or high school. The black robe is a very important symbol it has to do with a very ancient cult called the saturday alien cult going back into the ancient somatic wear on the worship of Saturn. Black was a color attributed to Saturn and even today in Islam in Mecca in Saudi Arabia you have this square of Mecca within the magic circle but within the Masonic circle and Mecca is black and it's draped in a black robe and so this is a world a world fraternity of secret societies that use the same symbols but let me get back to the government the courtroom and the church. When you when you're sitting in a church you're of course are looking up onto the altar and you're looking the priest is looking down on you. There is always a fence in the church and then there's a gate and only the priest can go through the gate to enter the altar. The same thing is true in a court. There is the fence and there's the gate and only the attorneys can go through and they're called the logos and they go through and talk to the judge for you and of course the judge is sitting three tears high so he can look down on you and you look up to him. The same symbols which are used in religion are used in political circles and I am saying it's my opinion that what we have in America is a religious political economic scheme based on the very ancient secret societies and paternal orders and until such time as we understand that concept that things just don't happen. I mean what was it? Franklin Roosevelt even said anything that happens in politics it was planned that way and until such time as you understand that things are planned in politics and that there is a rhyme and a reason to things you know we're never going to get to the bottom of this. A classic example what I'm talking about is we hear in this country we hear politicians the president and the local leaders saying that they just see they can't seem to get a handle on the crime problem the drug problem all of the different problems that are facing us as a people and they just can't seem to get a handle on these things however if you don't if you put a wrong comma on your on your income tax they can get a hold on you and if you go and if you go into the Amazon jungles they'll follow follow you and they will find you and that may take a while but there's been millions and they will find you and they will bring you back here and they will deal with you in public to show the rest of the people that you can mess around with other people but you don't mess with the money and the government okay so the point I'm making is that if they cannot seem to get a hold on crime but they can't get a hold on you the question should be asked how is it that a country 50 years ago which was a lot less sophisticated it got a hold on out of Hitler and he had a standing army all over the world they can get a hold on the on the Soviet National economy and destroy people's and nations all around the world they can get a hold on anybody they want except for the drug trade except for the crime and I'm saying that the crime and the drug trade in this country are purposely allowed to exist and in certain cases even promoted because according to the ancient cults of the ancient world there was a term that has come down to us and there's many free lessons in the audience will readily remember this according to the ancient cults there was something called Ordo Abkail and Latin which meant order out of chaos right so the idea was that if you can create enough chaos that the people will be sufficiently frightened and will give to you the power and the in the in the political power to bring back law and order now there was a television comedy program many years ago called Get Smart and when people tell you to get smarts implying that you're missing something here all right Get Smart remember you'll remember that on one side in the in the TV show Get Smart on one side was chaos and the other side was control and I'm saying that's exactly how you get control by causing chaos the idea is that if you're going to if you're going to pull a scam on somebody you're going to pick somebody's pocket or something you always have a diversion you do something to draw the person's attention while you're picking his pocket if you're going to break out of a prison you always have the the gang fight down at the far end while the guys are crawling out and the hole on the other end the idea is you set up a diversion you cause chaos and out of that you can get control because people will sufficiently frightened people will give you the power to put down these you know these problems now out of Hitler did this and he worked it perfectly and it works a lot of people wonder why is it that the German people would have ever allowed a Hitler to do what he did Hitler was elected to office because of the chaos that he was doing he was causing the chaos the people came sufficiently frightened and so they had given him the political power to put down the trouble because they knew he was the only guy that could put down the problems because he was the one that was causing it so I'm saying that the same kind of scam as being worked in this country today was seeing nothing but chaos and nothing but trouble and I'm saying that it's all orchestrated that that that you cannot you couldn't possibly imagine people like the president of the United States making mistakes and you hear every day what Senator Sohn's I made a terrible mistake or the United States government terrible mistake and be at night now they made a horrible mistake on this event this country don't make mistakes if they do something they have a reason for doing it they don't pay these people these doctors and professional psychologists and as it has whole army of brains at the Vatican I mean well this is probably a mistake probably I'm not a good too but at the at the what is it the Pentagon yeah they don't pay these people big money to make mistakes the president when he does something or this government does something they know what they're doing now it may not make any sense to you but according to other plans if you understand what's going on behind the scenes it makes a lot of sense and well let me interject something in here for you Jordan so that you'll understand my listening audience has had 22 hours already their education is far beyond anybody that you're right only talked right they understand what we're talking about they understand the involvement of the Vatican they understand the symbology of the mystery schools now we may ask the listener audience out there who just tuned into this show or maybe just found it a couple of shows ago but most of my listening audience worldwide they're listening this show since the 4th of May 1992 and an extensive education and all of this so if you want to cut to the meat of the matter these people will understand you don't know okay you know that's it right well I mean I I talked to audience is so often and I'm and I'm aware that when I'm talking to an audience that people generally I have not been initiated into this kind of thinking and so that's why I try and lay a foundation for there are a lot of occult symbols and emblems in government and religion and I wanted to get into one in particular the Nazis the communists the fascist and all of the ancient world powers that have every existed have used one common symbol continually and that's the sun now if you understand that the earliest history the prehistory of the human race goes back into the most ancient times and God knows how far back that would be 10 20,000 maybe 50,000 years I don't know but if you go back to the earliest times of the human race you can appreciate that the world was a very different place than what we live in today okay and so if you understand that it was a very cold and very fearful world at night okay and and if you understand also that in that cold and fearful world when the sun went down there was a lot of fear for for your life there were a lot of prehistory animals and so the coming of the sun the next morning was always something to look forward to that brought warmth that brought light and brought security and around that concept grew a whole religion political philosophy of the coming of the sun God's sun the light of the world and it has been used by the ancient Egyptians all the mystery schools and of course you probably know it was referred to as Bale a worship at one time Bale was the sun God's sun the light of the world and you know the the whole concept in the ancient world was that he had 12 helpers which were the 12 signs of the zodiac or the 12 months of the year and of course they and he died of course with the crown of thorns like the Statue of Liberty has the crown of thorns is the it's the corona of the sun rays and when we begin to see all of these connections and of course in the spring of the year the sun which had died in winter had passed over from the death of winter into the new life of spring so they in the in the old symmetric world they celebrated the Passover and we even say that today when someone dies they passed on that they passed away or they passed over there and so we get the the old symbolism out of each of the sun dying in the winter and passing over to the new life in spring and so the in the beginning of spring we had to pass over is the interesting thing too about the sun is that the ancient world realized that on the December 22nd which was the winter solstice they noticed something interesting on the sundials and of course the sundials being round they could each degree for each day they noticed that on the 22nd the sun did not move on the 22nd it stayed on the sundial on the same degree on the 23rd it stayed on the same degree it didn't move any further south and it didn't start back north on the 24th it was still in the same degree on the sundial it didn't move so they said the ancient Egyptus that anything that was moving and is now not moving is dead so therefore they said God's sun died and was in his tomb or dead for three days then on December 25th anything that was dead and in his grave and not moving for three days and now begins to move back to the northern hemisphere it moved its first degree so on December 25th they said God's sun is born on December 25th now in the real world it's clarified something for a lot of people who are listening out there you're not talking anything about Christmas you're not talking about what Christians traditionally recognize now I'm getting a symbol of Christ you're getting a symbol of the ancient religion of the sun right which was later perverted in Christianity to reflect this in order to capture the pagan worshippers into the christian church after the little bit right now what I'm saying is that once December 25th is not Christ's birthday no not at all no it's the birthday of the sun and then but then when you understand that this symbolism began to be the ancient people's understood that the sun was the revolved and it was a symbol of revolution and today in America we have or at least in the western part of the United States we have an oil company called Union Oil Union Oil has this a symbol around orange glow but the 76 and of course the commercial says get the spirit the spirit of 76 the orange glow this is sun because the communists have always used the rising sun you know as if you will recall on the Soviet national cut of orange certain is the rising sun that's bringing the dawn of a new day in the symbology of 76 plug it into the colony 76 and the 1376 is 13 right in the order the trapezoid and if you figure out the the formula of the ancient religion which says as a bus envelope the nation of this country in 1776 was guaranteed to bring into the world the new man the aluminum made who said three degrees of 6x r 6x right and eight is the number in the old Kabbalistic Freemasonry in Europe eight was the number of new beginnings and the new beginnings the new beginnings was 17 is seven and one eight and 13 was of course the old mystic number of god and his twelve helpers of god in his twelve months make 13 and so also that we're death and rebirth absolutely I'm sure the right incarnation depending upon how you look at that but so once you get into all of the symbolism you see that there is a rhyme and a reason to all of these emblems and symbols and something else in relation to word symbols and god knows we're just we're inundated by innuendos and catch phrases in this country especially we we've been hearing since George Bush made it made it publicly known something called a new world order I want to clarify something for your audience it probably might already know this but uh europe has been referred to as the old world and anything coming out of europe is old world all right uh Vatican the Vatican has dominated Europe for about 1516 hundred years the Vatican has dominated Europe Europe has dominated the world there was a religious political economic scheme of things that was the order of the day the old banking houses of the Roman Empire the old uh what was some of the families and areas to pernicus piezos the piezos family were a very powerful banking family who were the main brains behind they were the Rockefellers of the Roman Empire the refugees that the mixture is absolutely and so when you understand that there was a banking fraternal religious political order that operated throughout the world and the Vatican sat on top of that and that was an old world order now what the coming of America of course America is referred to as the new world and so what we have now is a new world order and that new world order implies that there is a fraternal order operating throughout the world operating out of America that seeks to excuse me it seeks to take the place of the old world order and bring a new order of the world but you must understand that you cannot have a new order or a new building on the same site as an old building so you've got to get rid of the old order first and bring in the new order uh when you get into that and i'm sorry i'm got a program i told okay when you get into that you get into the symbolism at steve and spielberg and lucas and charge lucas bring out about indiana jones and the last crusade and of course you can't understand the last crusade if you don't understand the first crusade right all the next crusade which is the real crusade right and then from there you get the the trilogy of star wars and then the empire strikes back and of course new york is referred to as the empire state okay and so you get the empire strikes back and then of course in you might know this that in Freemasonry there is a little ideologue or a little genie like mystical caratars supposedly in Freemasonry that they said was there mediator between the gods and the Freemasons of the knights templars and that little saint or that little um what i say mediator uh in the old knights templar tradition was a little short little monster with pointed ears and his name was Yoda and you go into the uh ohmasonic literature and pictures you know see pictures of Yoda because he was a jet high knight and if you understand the jet high knights where it was connected to the old order of the knights good of the knights templars so what we're talking about here is the star wars we're talking about a spiritual war in the heavens so to speak look at this was a cosmology a celestial religion so to speak absolutely they can talk about moving on to the celestial sphere right when they discuss panoramic thinking that way and then of course the sun was what the ancient Egyptian said that the sun walked across the sky so that we have blue sky walker you know and then there are thousands of points of light that's a thousand points of light not thousand year reign of the nazi empire or whatever and what we're talking about here is secret societies and their use of symbols and emblems in religion and politics and philosophy and incidentally when you go to when you graduate from university i'm not to bring this out when you graduate from university you wear a long black robe the black robe is of course the same black robe that the priest wears it's the same black robe that the judge wears all right because the black robe symbolized the it goes back to the old satan alien cult which was pre-egyptian the worship of savern and according to that ancient stymettic cult when you got married you were the ring the ring was the ring of savern the women would show their submission to that god the wear the ear ring that's when we get the idea the king being crowned he wears a round crown or the round circle of the god of savern as they said was was assigned the color black and therefore the black robe as they as the worship of savern the savern alien god what was i going to say about oh yes and when you graduate you graduate with the square mortar board the square mortar board is always the symbol of the the brick mason's use the marker board and then of course when you graduate you are referred to you are referred to as an alumni which comes from the word alumni you have been illuminated which basically means you you now know what to kiss and win and how to thank and what to thank and then what and how to act and you have been properly educated belong to the priest that's right you belong to the priesthood and if you go alone to get along and and don't cause any problems then you go along to get along you might get a little right exactly and my point is and I have and I have said this to so many audiences that there is this country the United States has no real enemies in the world after the second world war especially is that true every every enemy even before the second world war the enemies that we had and the mother one nation that's right we created them absolutely but there is one there is one legitimate believable enemy that faces America that the that the powers behind the throne in this country and America are truly afraid of and this is legitimate they are totally frightened to death of us the people because they realize that the people ever wake up I mean something that Joe Kennedy was quoted as saying something to the effect of beware the American conscience because if they ever wake up and find out what we're doing it's going to be hard you know hell to play and so I believe that there is a legitimate enemy that this country perceives and that's us people who thank too much people who read too much and people who talk too much that's all based though Jordan because we know that what's coming is going to be a socialist state oh totally every time socialism has won anywhere the first thing that they've done is that they they have literally perverted the intelligence yet which has brought into power and then the first thing that they did is get rid of the intelligence yet absolutely intelligence yet aren't very intelligent because then learn this yet because they're still doing but the more they change them all the state of saying that's right we'll come back to that yeah in just a few minutes folks I hope you're paying attention to the show because Jordan has an awful lot say and you can hear that he's right in tune with what we've covered before don't go away time to say our break will be right back after this very short pause Jordan can we talk about some of the symbols the symbology that people are going to run into in their everyday life as they go about their business and maybe haven't even understood what these things mean yes as a matter of fact even as we was saying before that the world around us is filled with emblems and symbols and if you know how to read the symbols you can tell what people are coming from you can tell what organizations are coming from for instance in Washington DC which is a very interesting place you have the Washington monument which is of course the Egyptian obelisk now the Egyptian obelisk is pointing is of course the male phalic symbol okay and the male phalic and the Washington monument is connected to something in the and the White House called the oval office and when you understand the male phalic would be male oval office you're talking about the coming of life and that's the life of the nation do you have the Pentagon the United States Pentagon comes from the from the five point of pentagram if you take the arms off of a five pointed star which has been used in devil worship and satanic worship for thousands of years if you understand you take the arms off of a five pointed star the interior of the star is called a pentagon and so we have the United States Pentagon and of course the the Pentagon is used by the Chrysler corporation as their symbol the Pentagon why because Chrysler was the company that was chosen to make the military five where four the United States and they had the contracts so that's why they still used the Pentagon as their symbol and on the back of the dollar bill of course we don't want to get that because out of the dollar bill it's crowned bill with symbols and Roosevelt Franklin Delano Roosevelt said that the reason why it was all these symbols were put on a one dollar bill is because he figured that all over the world people any of them and how poor you were you would have in your hand the the almighty dollar and if you have in your hand the one dollar bill then you have in your hand all of the symbolism of the secret societies and the occult orders of course on the left hand side of the back of the dollar bill you have the pyramid then you got to ask yourself why would you have an Egyptian pyramid on an American dollar bill and then you will see the letters and they would coept us over the top of the pyramid and they would coept us in Latin means our enterprise is now a success God has favored our enterprise the enterprise of course is on the banner beneath the pyramid which is Novus Ordos de Clorum which is the new order of the world new order us to Clorum and that's what we get towards secular anything is whirling so now we're talking about a new world order on the bottom of the pyramid you'll realize that the pyramid has 13 layers and there are 13 letters and aneweth coeptus and then if you go to the right side you'll see the the seal of America with the eagle and above the eagle you'll have 13 stars which stand for the 13 colonies originally but the 13 colonies and the 13 stars go back to Jesus in the 12 because they're they're moving in on and using the the ancient societies are moving in on the teachings of Christianity imposing themselves under the 13 being Jesus in the chosen 12 then you've got the the 13 let's say on the on the right hand side you've got the on one side of the eagle you have the 13 leaves and the 13 berries and the 13 leaves and then on the other side you have the 13 arrows everything is done in sequence of 13 of course on the the something else I want to bring up on thinking about it is that so much of what we have seen in movies and television are symbols are you aware that that I have been talking to some doctors in Los Angeles who have been doing some research on this and I find it to be absolutely fascinating that many of the gangs the Latino and the black gangs in the major cities across America their graffiti that they are spraying on buildings their graffiti are actually masonic emblems and masonic seals and symbols and I have seen a whole collection that these doctors and these are medical doctors but they are interested in this subject and they have been collecting hundreds of pictures of graffiti and showing the research into the ancient secret societies and there's no way that these black and Latino gangs can know these symbols there there's definitely a connection between the gangs and some sort of a higher orchestrated mind behind the war fair going on between gangs I don't think those gangs are by chance I think they have been nurtured and orchestrated and promoted and even financed I mean if you think about it how those gangs have money to travel around they can buy guns they can they can roam around they don't have to work where are they getting their money from well no that but they're main occupation is is the narcotics business and and for minting chaos confusion and fear and they haven't they haven't got the background of understanding learning to put together the kind of logistics network that it would take to supply this kind of an enterprise after the so somewhat with an awful lot of money an awful lot of organization an absolute ability to provide 100% protection is supplying these city gangs this not the most yet then on you can this is a very sophisticated a totally protected organization absolutely and in effect the San Francisco Chronicle have two full pages and one of their newspapers I still have where they were talking about how the this federal government was bringing in narcotics from Asia during the Vietnam war in the bodies of American servicemen that was being killed in Vietnam and they were bringing in bags of pure heroin and pure narcotics from Asia in the bodies of American servicemen and what what they doing with it they were they were giving it directly to the mafia because the mafia is doing a little tricks for the government it takes care of business for the government so they have to be paid well let's clarify one thing there's not the government it is it is the secret societies in operating behind our government that's correct behind the veil of nation security and I might remind you that back in history when Albert Pike and just after he was eating we're corresponding and we're setting up the core foundation of the Illuminati within free masonry both in their respective countries and at that time of course Albert Pike was the grand commander free masonry throughout the world and just after he was his counterpart in Europe and lore though it was just after he was eating who created and fostered and gave the charter to the what is now known as the mafia that's right because the Nusca was masonry that's a very iconic one that is that about it and this explains the close cooperation between the government and the mafia that's right absolutely and when we also understand that the old magic practicing priest that the old Celtic druid priest of ancient England in the in the person of Merlin the magician when you understand that the old priest of the magicians worked their magic on people with their magic warns and their magic warns were always made out of hollywood and they're still working their magic today on with hollywood if you understand how we are being manipulated we're being programmed hollywood is nothing more than an instrument in the hands of the secret societies and then Los Angeles anyone who knows anything about the most your picture industry knows that the real bosses are in New York and back east that nobody makes any decisions here in Los Angeles those decisions are made by some very powerful people behind the scenes in New York and upstate New York and we're not talking about just hollywood we're talking about the media overall comes general including print television radio the whole works and and and and specifically what we're looking at is a very sophisticated method of manipulation manipulation and right and right warrant exploitation correct absolute exploitation of people's ignorance somewhere along the line and as I said to you before a few minutes ago the greatest enemy this country will ever face the people uh... poor behind the scenes of government in this country their greatest enemy is you you who think too much as a matter of fact there was a movie there was a motion picture called uh... all what was it a few years back called uh... network and in the movie network at the end of the movie the star that was a newsman and he said something to the effect that uh... you don't have to worry about america being destroyed america's not going anywhere because we feed everybody so we go the whole world goes because we're feeding everybody but there is something that is lost forever there is something that it has done and is legitimately lost and that is your freedom as an individual human being to be free to do your own thinking to be your own person that is lost you have been taken over and you don't even know it and he said in the reason why is because you don't read you don't think you want to be entertained by bugs buddy and big top p-week you all you want to share a recapable tires like he says and and all of your creature comforts and you don't want to put yourself out and so consequently comments the law comment cause an effect you have not defended your freedom you and if you don't defend your freedoms then you're right and you don't have them that's correct let's go back to this symbology we're talking about the back of the reverse seal of the united state the same america we see at the top of this pyramid which by the way does not have a capstone we see an eye surrounded by ways and this this eye signifies really in the beginning signified the sun yeah of course in the god of the sun that's correct and we see that same symbol as the insignia for cbs and we also see in the nbc p-card a tail in each feather of the tail has an eye on it and we also see the symbol of one of the information computer networks america online is the pyramid with the again all seen and i see the symbol of prodigy which is another computer information service right which as as it's symbol the pentagram and by the way folks there's been a lawsuit brought against prodigy because it has been discovered that as you sign on to the prodigy computer bozboard database system built into the program that they send you so that you can sign on to this system and use it is a method whereby they actually read the information on your personal hard drive on your personal computer and i don't know where they go where that goes or what they do with it but there has been a lawsuit that's been brought against prodigy for they've been caught in the act is what i'm trying to tell you yeah and it's in court right now we'll let you know how that's resolved and what what happens but i will tell you if you're signing on to some of these national computer information database systems there's a good chance that you're the one that's being you're the one that's being computerized probed for information while you think that you're probing them for information it's actually the other way around and this is how that's intentionally that way i got an interesting conversation with a very high ranking rabbi in america about three or four years ago and he had written a book and i was very interested in about symbolism or call symbolism in america and some of the interesting things he brought out was the movie frankenstein if you break the word down frankenstein and it goes back to jacob frank and jacob frank in the in europe was one of the leading members of the alumina pi in in in europe and uh... the idea was that in the old movie uh... moris cala comes out and tells you in the original 1933 movie of frankenstein he comes out and says that this is a story about a old man scientist at uh... at uh... the barian university of ingress stop and he has put together all of these nefarious pieces it created a monster and that's what frankenstein met in uh... and the rabbi was bringing out that all the story of frankenstein was that the barian uh... uh... professor out of my stop had put together a frankenstein monster to fight in the world and they get what he did is he used different people and put them together the different pieces into a monster and so how he would have known these stories how he would have totally aware of all of these symbolism that you know that's that's behind these stories and so i'm saying there's no way we are going to remain a three people without facing the facts that it's an educated electorate we are we love to go around talking about how we have the right to elect boy in america we have the right to elect but we don't have the right to see that that's what the problem is so without education without knowledge and understanding which comes from many hours of study and listening and understanding and researching on your own we're not going to remain a free people and that's really the key is not to believe anything that you hear from anyone including me including you absolutely including their own mother people have got to learn to start digging up and researching all of your own absolutely and then you will make it your own then you will finally see how we have been had as a people and believe me we are in serious trouble because the the the secret societies even the the Islamic orders today when i have asked these uh the Freemasons who is that that is actually running your organization they will tell you that they have a name for them they call they hidden masters they hidden supervisors they're hidden masters and it's always nine right right and that goes back to the legend of the beginning of the order the rose and cross and right and uh i'm a definite uh the whole works all the way back into into history um that there is a roundtable of nine somewhere who is guiding all the machinations of the secret societies leading to a one-world general i don't know if these nine people really exist it doesn't matter well that's you now right it does that but what we do know is that it is organized it is orchestrated and there is a method to the madness and it may not make any sense to you because that's you don't know what's going on but if you were on the inner sanctum of these criminals as they are planning their criminology throughout the world and their bloodshed if you will if you were to fly on the wall meeting with these criminals then you would see that the things what you're happening in the world makes sense that's correct and also one of the methods that they manipulate us is to turn us against each other absolutely racism is a form of this uh getting different religions to fight against each other is a form of this but that's a protection to them as long as you're out fighting somebody else you you're not joining forces to uncover them it's part of the distraction right uh the illusion so that we're not looking in the right corner to see the cockroaches doing the real damage absolutely when they crawl out from under the sink and then it's a very good analogy because that's just what they are the cockroaches and as a matter of fact they have they have symbolism in words as I said and I'm going to throw this one at you in California we have something called a criminal justice system think about it's a criminal justice system and they know what they're doing I mean they have they have this thing back in Georgia called the the widest and for a disease control the center for disease control it's not the center for disease eradication it's for the center of disease control the whole the way that we have grown up in this country accepting symbols emblems words institutions government symbols we need to educate ourselves that there is a whole world of knowledge there that we have not been privy to know well their concept of us meaning the normal every day and I would consider myself to be in that category I'm just like everybody else out there probably if I've never been a member of the off-subnabel intelligence I would never have caught on to any of this and would not be doing what I'm doing right now so I know different than the average listener out there it's just that one day I woke up look myself in the mirror and said Bill you've been stupid for all of your life I'm not going to be stupid anymore now I've got to do something smart I've got to wise up and that's really the only thing that separates me from from most other people so but their concept of us is that we're white animals what cattle that we don't have any intelligence that's why they that's why they say that our offspring are kids and they have kids and they rub it in our in our face absolutely they rub our nose in the mouth and we go around saying that we have kids now kids are our baby goats that's what they think of us we're a bunch of goats a bunch of animals uh cattle cattle and that we deserve they figure we're going to get taken anyway because we're so stupid their idea is that since we're going to get taken anyway they might as well do they might as well go on and do it right somebody's gonna do it anyway absolutely so I'm saying I'm tired of being taken Me too and I want to wait the people up around the world to the fact that there's uh there is a a method there is a method to the madness it is orchestrated organized directed and financed by criminals and until such time as you want to stand that you're never going to see this world getting better and somebody has to take up the reins somebody has to do this and we're putting our lives on the line by doing this but at this point I don't care anymore all I want is to see this this master conspiracy uncovered I'd like to see all of this stuff uncovered for the first time and that's exactly what this uh the people behind our government do not want they don't want the people to wake up that's why they give you plenty of liquor stores make sure you got plenty of booze and plenty of alcohol and plenty of entertainment and vlog games like that all of this is all the concept of the of the old Roman circus that's it when the emperor didn't want you to see what he was doing well he would give you red and circuses and into things that's right wine and so on your way out so on folks I'm going to quote from chapter one from my book People of Hill Horse I want you to remember this because this is their philosophy a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence for no better than animals who do not have intelligence and such people are beast of burden and stakes on the table by choice and consent you