Pat Cash (A Legend) His View On the Pandemic

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So, and immediately, I was like, hmm, what's going on here? So, inquisitive as I am, and health nut as I am, I just started looking into it and thought, okay, first of all, I'm not buying into this, I'm not buying into the fear of it all. Maybe the world will shut down, I don't know. You know, they were talking about all sorts of stuff and nothing. You know what? I'm going to be fine. I'm healthy, I'm fit, my family, I'm healthy and fit, I've got grandkids now. You know, they're not going to be bothered about this, but what's going to happen to my job? It's like, now, it's going... Wimbledon's going to be fine, it's going to be wash away in a couple of months, and everything will be back to normal. When Wimbledon got cancelled, that was a big, whoa, a real shock to me, a real hit slap in the face. Because a lot of my, well, first of all, a lot of my earnings and income and business is Wimbledon, but I mean, this is the tournament that never stops. It's been going for 200 years, and all of a sudden the whole tour stops. And I just started, I signed up with a young American boy to coach him, the number one in junior, coming out of, coming, becoming a pro. He was in California and places were locking down and London was about to lock down. And I thought, I've got to get to California to work with this guy. Because a cancelled Wimbledon thought, well, I've got to make an early living. You know, I'm going to take a risk. I'm going to take a risk. I'm going to jump on the plane. I'm going to go to, from one COVID, so to say, for COVID country to the worst COVID country in America, and go there and start coaching. And, you know, let's make lemonade out of lemons. Okay, there's a bad situation, but for this young fella is a great opportunity for him to get fit and super fit and work together. So I actually had the most productive down to do it. They allowed him. They hadn't. Oh, is that my rebel coming out? Yes, it is. We were in a lady on a tennis center who had private courts. Yes. And, you know, we were sensible, we were careful, we weren't. There was nowhere to go anyway, but, you know, we, we just did coaching on a private court for months. And what about, for everyone else training, it must have had a terrible effect on the players on the circuit. Yeah. Well, well, well, did they all go and train on private courts? What actually happened? Because people who are out there practicing endless hours a day going through their normal routines, that presumably all came to a stop some time over that summer. Yeah, I mean, it was, it was, everybody had their own different story and situation. Some of the players, I know Stan Viveverinco who is a Swiss player who was a multiple Grand Slam champion, he literally couldn't go outside. So that he couldn't go out, so he was in Geneva, I think. And he said, you know, he's a small flat, small flat in Geneva, he said, I'm in going in room to do the pushups in my flat, let alone you stay fit. So, you know, that's really rough for him. He obviously, you know, lost a lot of fitness. The girl that I'm coaching now is the China's number one woman player. She was in China locked away and they said, no, you're not leaving and she didn't leave the whole year. She was back in China. So everybody had a different story, but you know, we weren't really sure what was going on, how did the circuit go? And it was amazing to see that the US open, which is, you know, one year ago now, that they decided to put it on. And on the conference call with the USTA, with all the coaches and managers and players, they said, you know, if we don't get this going, everybody's going to lose their job. I said, there's going to be one person left in the whole tennis association, one of the biggest tennis associations, longest tennis associations we've ever had. Everybody was starting to lose their job. All the coaches, we were talking about where the coaches union that we're trying to create a coach's union and the coaches are going to, I've just lost my job. I've just lost my income, just boom, like that. And we don't know when the circuit's going to go back on and they're, everybody's trying to help everybody else and there's a sense of community around the tennis. How can we help each other? Which was really nice because no, it's pretty competitive. You see that you chat with some of the other coaches or whatever, but it's seriously competitive. And all of a sudden there's a bit of camaraderie around that and we sort of try and get something going and we're looking out for each other, hey, listen, you know, if you've got a problem off, I know somebody who might want to need a player, might want to need a coach. So it was interesting, interesting, but the main thing for me was I just didn't buy another fear. I just, and that was, that has been the best thing. I meditate every day anyway and I just didn't buy into what was being told to me. And did you feel other people around you did where they skeptical or just didn't dare say anything? Incredibly skeptical. Incredibly skeptical in the two of them. Why, you know, why we, let's get going, okay, we, you know, there might be something out there, but, you know, we're health with, we're fit and we're healthy and let's, let's get going. And you want to see people going downhill with it? Um, I think, as far as I know, and this was the interesting thing, we've got Novak, Novak Jockovic, put it, tried to get the tour going again in, I'm going to say August July last year and, you know, he did, he thought, okay, let's, let's get out there and go. Yeah. Let's do something. 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What you're saying is not right. Oh no, it is, it isn't, isn't it? I'm going back and going. I don't think it is. All right, so I'll tell you what, that's not right because I know this football ball. I just saw the... Anyway. I hung up from the conference calls both of them scratching my head going, what's going on here? And then all of a sudden the phones started ringing. Boom, boom. Messages from other coaches. Did you hear that? Can you believe they said that? I said, you know, I don't want to call them liars but they just don't know the information. Well maybe I'll let me do some research. So that's where the message was. I sent emails to the tennis association WT Women's and the men's and I said, what are you proposing a vaccine that hasn't been tested on young healthy players? I said, I think you would want to rethink this. Nope, nope. That was just straight off. But this is the way to go forward. Oh, I said, okay, I'm not going anywhere there. Let me do the research and I realized that what they were telling was simply wrong. Simply wrong. And I got confirmed, double checked and I tripled checked it and I quadripled checked it and I said, okay, the senate's of various coaches and they met all translated into Spanish. Yep, that's wrong, all translated into Italian. So it went out and said, forget about the association. Let's go to the players and the coaches and the principal of this was, this is an informed balanced, here's what they're saying and here's the truth and make up your own mind. No, I'm not saying Vax or don't Vax. I'm saying, make up your own mind based on the facts. Please just give us the facts and so I had to do that. They weren't getting any facts and I thought, oh my God, I'm going to get banned from the tennis association. I'm still me. I still may. I just don't want young healthy athletes taking something that could long-term damage them for no reason. We just don't know and I said, can we just wait a year or two years until everything is all in for us out there and make a decision then? And that was my stance. Let's just wait and see what happens. Give it a longer time. And what's the response of players being? Well, more and more getting vaccinated because they just cannot do their job unless they are. They cannot play the tournament. They cannot travel. I have not yet to hear one player or coach and I think it's about 50%. So it's not 100%. It's about 50%. And it's sort of slowly creeping up there. I know the Grand Slam winners and runners up, I think one of them has been vaccinated. So, but the rest, the rest happen. In the case they see that there's really no need for them to do it. But there's a lot of pressure. That's sort of being held hostage, aren't there? Yeah, we all, aren't we? I mean, talking about vaccine passports, can't go to a restaurant, can't do this, can't do that. Are we all being sort of pressured into this? Indeed. Can we only make our own mind, please? Even since you wrote, put all that scientific information together, all the evidence that sort of counted what the ATP was saying, that all their firm things as a safe, as this, in day, don't know, sorry, you don't know, because the trials are very short. They're very compressed. Trials, very small numbers of people. You know, they're all these different things, just a lack of basic data. But this pressure of sort of holding people hostage is almost worse for them. Somebody like me, I can stand out and say, well, I won't be vaccinated. And so I won't be able to travel. Well, that I'm not going to be held hostage to that, but it has its downside. I can't tell. But if you're a professional player, if you're doing anybody with any job that requires travel or being part of something, this is sort of noxious, really. Yes. It's well, it's going to stage where it's impossible to do a job. I ran into one of the players' wives yesterday, actually. And I said, oh, where is, I won't say who it was, but where is, oh, he's over now in Cincinnati. He's going to New York. Oh, he had to get vaccinated. He felt like he had to get vaccinated. He didn't want to, but he felt like he had to get vaccinated to go over there. And it's like, oh, no, you know, I mean, I'm not saying not to get vaccinated, but he felt like he had to get vaccinated. For the wrong reason. Yeah. And what about our first reactions? Because we've been looking into, I've got a top former health and medical journalist correspondent working for me on the website. And the more we're looking at this, the more we're seeing that the adverse reactions that didn't show up in the trials are showing up now. We even know I've had things sent to me from the London Trust NHS Trust hospitals from there, people saying to doctors, please don't get your second vaccination until just before you're going off shift, because we've had so many doctors going ill with adverse reactions. It's depleting us. So you might need a week off work. So do it when you're off on a shift. So these messages are coming from within the health system that actually show the level of adverse reactions. I mean, some are minor, some, of course, some more. And are you beginning to see this amongst the tennis players at all? Well, there has been. There are. I think one of the concerns was one of the players, excuse me, one of the players end up developing a blood clot in his legs, went to his lungs. I think he's recovered. I think the fact is that there's just so many red flags out there and for a healthy, young athlete and young people and young children in my view. And I think that's, it's echoed by many, many, many top scientists. Again, the independent ones, not the ones government. Come on, listen to them. They've got an agenda. This is just how many red flags is just weight. I mean, could you, you don't want to say to a player, don't get vaccinated because you could end up crippled and whatever. You don't want to really go there with that. But the message really was just wait and see what happens. Let's just, can we wait a little bit? And unfortunately, it's almost like, well, no, we can't wait. Because we want to move on. And if you can't, if you don't get vaccinated, then you can't move on. But when my mother at 89, use of age, she's 89, she, oh, she's a bit, you know, she's old. She's got a few little heart things and a minor, a little minor stroke along the way. But she's sharp as can be. There's no COVID in Australia. I mean, really, there's none there. They're locked down and that's their point. When they can convince an 89 or 9-year-old woman to go and get a vaccination. And she goes out there and gets it. And they, you know, somebody points to me and say, you got blood on your hands if you don't, you know, do this and do that. I tell you, you've got blood on your hands. The doctor who didn't check my mum, the doctor, the people who convinced my mother at 89 to get a vaccination, four days of splitting my grains, followed by two strokes and a heart attack. Yeah. You've got blood on you. Yeah. It's funny. You've got, why did they do that to an 89-year-old woman? I, it has been her, now she's in, she's, she's care. She had to get look after, she was on her own in an apartment. She was great. She collapsed on the floor. My brother just got there in time. They resuscitated her. And I said to mum, she recovered. Which was amazing. I said, mum, tell your cardiologist what happened. She said, I did. I said, can you report it please? He said, there's no point reporting at adverse reaction, no point, no, you listen. As I mum, tell him, you know, I didn't want to stress her. She did, she did, she did, two strokes and a heart attack. I was like, she basically said no. The doctors aren't, aren't reporting these things. So we're not getting the truth on that side as well. And you know what, and the, and the trouble is with the mainstream media is, as you said earlier, you're only getting one, one line of messages. So we're not getting constant coverage about the million reported adverse reactions on the MHRA. We're not getting the story about the 30,000 people across Europe who've died from the vaccine. You get constant stories. I didn't have the vaccine. Oh, dear, I wish I had and now I'm ill on my brother's ill. You get plenty of those, but you do get the feeling that there's a very skewed type of reported of this. There's no doubt, there's no doubt about that. And I think that's the sort of the frightening thing, isn't it? Really, the censorship of really good, good people. And then, and then the shutting down the debunking of, of these people who are, you know, top, you know, top, top scientists and, and independent scientists. And, and so, yeah, I mean, I suppose you go back and say, what is the, what is the reasoning behind all this? Is it just money? Is it just money that the governments and these farmers want to, want to, want to make? I don't, I don't really know. I look, I have, I have not got all the answers, but, you know, I know for me, as I got a croaky voice, but I know for me that I have to look after myself, I have to look after my immune system, I have to go to the gym and stay healthy and do all the things. So if I can look after me and my player and take care of her as best as best I can, and we've, we've been taking over Macden since, for the beginning of the year, I've been taking over a year and a quarter now. We know it works. We know that it's a, it's a, it's a medicine and this is not, oh, go ahead, fact check me. All you like. I have Macden works. It's a cheap drug. It's a wonder drug. And I'm living proof that I have been in the worst areas everywhere around the world. And I come close to getting COVID. Do I need to get vaccinated? I don't know. I'll make that decision at the latest age, but right now, no, I don't, I don't need to. I'm fit. And you know, when you get really a pisses of me off, sorry folks, but is when, when we're in here I am, I've spent my life looking after my, my body and my mental well-being. Some politician jumps up there, some TV morning TV doctor, he jumps up and says, you are selfish. You got blood on your hands. You know, you're, you're selfish. When was I selfish when I went for my run at six in the morning? When was I selfish when I spent that extra money on my vitamins? When was I selfish when I got my organic food and my juices in the morning? You know, that's, you never call me selfish then. I'm looking after myself. I take, I do my research. I see that I have a Macden works. I take that. I give that to my, my player takes it as well. We're looking, are we selfish? You know, and it's, it's mind-boggling. Some of these rubbish, they're politics. I'm not having a politician or a TV doctor who's on the payroll. Tell me what I shouldn't shouldn't be doing with my health, okay? I'm 56. I'm in pretty good damn shape. And I've spent my life looking after myself. So the next step for other tennis players. I mean, will there be, apart from you, will there be anyone who'll put their head above the parapet and say, actually, let's learn about treatment now. Nobody needs worry. They're good treatments out there. Actually, how about testing for us for antibodies? Loders of us have probably already got the antibodies. Is there any movement within the sport at all from grassroots up for any of that on none? Or has everybody just been sort of forced into a sort of compliance? Yeah, I mean, it's very hard to stick your head above. I mean, I think Novak Jokovitch was very brave in speaking out in Australia about the way that the players were locked down in the hotels. And I'm 100% behind his efforts to make a players union. We have a players tour, but we don't really, and it's supposed to be a representative, it's not really, it's a marketing company and a promoter of tennis events. And the players themselves don't really have a lot of representation. Ironically, even though it's our tour. And I say, our, because I was one of the first people to start the tour. I was the first one to... So he sticks his head up and he gets slammed. I stick my head up and I get... And my kids have been all over me. Dad, you can't say that, you're going to lose your job, they're going to blackboard you, all that sort of stuff. And I say, you don't understand it. This is important. I believe in Aboriginal rights. I've been... I have lots of charities. I believe in Aboriginal rights. I believe in... The Orkard Appeal, which is the men's health. There's loads of charities, education, stuff, the Aurelius Foundation. I'm involved in all that. And it's all about education, learning and speaking up for what you believe. Even. You know, and if that means that somebody calls me an idiot and I lose a gig... And I have, I've lost by sticking up for Aboriginal rights in Australia. I've lost the message sponsorship. My manager just said, Pat, it was all over the news how, you know, you're going up to the Central of Australia where they don't have water, where the elders are there, that the people who act... They're the mob who actually own the whole of Alice Springs in that whole area. The leaders there don't even have water in their house. And it was... It infuriated me. I spoke up. And I said, oh, Pat's too outspoken on Aboriginal rights. We're not going to sponsor him. I lost, you know, a considerable amount of money in a sponsorship deal. And she said, you know, why are you doing this? I said, because I believe in it. Because it's wrong. And I know it's wrong. Yes. You telling me that you said, Pat, you can't speak up about these things. Why not? So you wouldn't be very popular in Australia now with what's going on. Does that break your heart? It breaks my heart, what's going on in Australia. But it's not me. I think everybody got their heart. Every... They're well broken and their heart broken. I don't know what's going to happen with the Australian Open. I don't know if it's going to go on to the cricket ashes. I don't know if that's going to go on as well. I was... Me, like a lot of people were very proud that Australia said that they held off and went, we're going to see what's going to happen with the rest of the world. We're just going to lock our doors for a bet and see how it goes. And we'll make... We'll learn. We'll make our decisions based on this. I haven't... The Australian Government haven't learned a damn thing. It's mind boggling. It's very frustrating. I know National Anthem. In the first paragraph, as we see, we are young and free. We are not free anymore. And that is absolutely clear. They're locking down. We are not young and free. Young as in young countries and... Well, colonized 200 years ago. But it's always one of the largest continents in the world. I think that's what the indigenous people are saying. What do you mean we're young and free? I've been here for 60,000 years. Anyway, it's another story. But we're certainly not free anymore. And I think that unfortunately, people who are sensitive to these things, and we are... The people who are sensitive... I get hit very hard. And I'm actually a very sensitive person. So I get hit hard by this injustice. And I want to do something about it. And I feel... And certainly, people in Australia, almost everybody in Australia, who furniture and easily went, oh, you've been locked down in Australia. Look, we're going, what's great. We're in the beach. I said, it's coming, guys. No, no, no, we've got a plan. We've got it done. We've got to organize. I said, yeah. And now they're like, oh my God, this is horrific. So I feel really sorry for the Australians. But to think that we have free society and anywhere for that matter is questionable. And keep your eyes open. Keep your head out of the sand. And I think just watch what's going on. And don't panic. I mean, that's my message. Just don't panic. Don't accept the fear. And look after yourself. Stay healthy. And I know you were just talking about, yeah. What we do to stay healthy, you know? That's about best we can do, I think. Pat, you've been absolutely inspirational. You're a very brave man. I wish there were more like you. I really do. And I hope you'll inspire more people to be like you and to speak truth. What? To keep an open mind. That's the thing. Just keep an open mind. And that's what I believe here. But thank you very much for having me. I really appreciate it. Thank you.