Jeffrey Epstein ,The Groomers, The Cover-Up, The Island & The Victims - Adam Green

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome. And thank you so much for tuning in here today or tonight whenever you're joining us on redis.tv or our YouTube channel, BitShoot, perhaps on redismembers.com. Special thanks always to our members out there, of course, because you guys make this possible. We have a really important show here lined up for today. A lot of things actually go to go through, but we're going to try to be as concise as we possibly can. Huge topic, breaking news as you guys know. Epstein has been the major story here now for a couple of days. And we have with us none on the, Adam Green on the line, no more news here to kind of wade through really at him some of this material because he's just a ass-sluhe of stuff that's been coming out. And of course, we kind of have to backtrack a little bit in the record as well and put this in context. But first of all, welcome once again, Adam. And thank you for coming on with us. Thanks for having me. It's good to be here. As always, pleasure having you here. And I mean, it's always good covering these topics with you as well. You're eloquent of a good way of summarizing things and good overview when it comes to not only these kinds of topics, but a lot of other things that you cover, of course, on your YouTube channel and stuff like that. But obviously, Epstein, that's the huge breaking story, his arrest. And of course, consequently, he showed up in court today recording this on Monday, the 8th. And number of things that that's come out of this, and we'll talk about this a little bit later too. But what's happening right now is you're going to return to, I think, to get a notice of bail on Thursday. And until that time, of course, a lot of people are going to wade through documents and all the kind of things that have been happening since that time. But did you, what's your overview, kind of just opinion about the case? Have you been aware of this since back in, I mean, I remember coming this in 2005, 6, 7, something like that. Did you know about Epstein and some of his shenanigans? I definitely didn't know about it back then in 2005. But in the last couple of years, I've been covering it, not super in depth. But I definitely have been investigating it all day today and the threads lead to a lot of the usual suspects. Absolutely. Always the same. Very, very interesting. So a lot of stuff to wade through here, guys. And really, I think, actually, let's play a clip from the Miami Herald because that's really the preeminent in this case. And it's a mainstream media news outlet pretty much. It's a bit smaller, kind of local there in Florida. But they have enabled really a lot of this to come through. And some people have even attributed the fact that he has now has been arrested to some of the stories that the Miami Herald were continuing to release. And so again, if there's anyone that have been kind of under rocked the last couple of days here, or before that, I don't know about the case, let's take a look at this clip here as it really summarizes the situation, what we're looking at. And then Adam and I will come back and really dive into this a whole lot more. On June 30th, 2008, Jeffrey Epstein, a Palm Beach multi-millionaire hedge fund manager, received what might have been the most lenient plea deal for a serial sex offender in US history. The Miami Herald identified over 60 of his victims, just young middle and high school girls at the time of the abuse. For then a decade later, several of them are talking for the first time about how they were more listed by Epstein and believe they were betrayed by the very prosecutors who were supposed to hold Epstein accountable. They came from fairly disadvantaged backgrounds. There was some dysfunction in their families. The lore of a lot of money was more than they were able to resist. I went from an abusive situation to being a runaway, to living in foster homes, to just already being hardened by life on the streets. The other girls that I personally know of that when we're coming from trailer parks that we're having gun shootings, drugs. My mother was on drugs at the time and she could have provided for me and I was pretty much homeless. One child would be lowered over, would be paid substantial sums of money, would be offered the further inducement of being paid a bounty for anybody else that she was able to bring to Epstein. A network developed where many young girls in the same kinds of circumstance wound up being victimized. By the time I was 16, I brought him up to 75 girls. All the ages of 14, 15, 16, people going from eighth grade to ninth grade at just school parties. That's where I recruit him from. All Jeffrey Caret about was go find me more girls. His appetite was insatiable. He couldn't stop. He wanted new fresh young faces every single day. The sheer volume of girls, the frequency, sometimes several were many in the same day. I remember there was a staircase and it was like kind of like a spiral almost and she brings us up the stairs and it was like spiral stairs. You walked into his bedroom around his bed to almost like a very little hall and then it was another door and that's where everything would happen. It was in his bathroom. He would have a dresser and it was filled with like the first door was lotion and then like the third door down was like sex toys. So we would take the massage table out and set it up in the middle of the room. And then he came in with this white towel on around him. And then he just laid down in his towel on his stomach and he was just talking to people on the phone. When he flipped over, that's when he said okay, you can go ahead and take off your shirt and pants but you can stay in your underwear. He would want us to stand next to him and he would masturbate while he stared at us, touched us. To pull his nipples and to play with them in between his fingers and also while I was playing with his nipples, he kept doing that stuff to me. But he was very aggressive when he would do it. And then he tried to put his finger in my underwear and I like jumped back and I went, I pulled back. And I was like, whoa. And he's like no, no, no, it's okay, it's okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I won't do that, I won't do that. And then he went back to doing that. He's like just on the outside and I'm like, oh my God. It ended with sexual abuse and intercourse. And then a pat on the back. You've done a really good job. Like, thank you very much and here's $200. You know, before you know it, I'm being lent out to politicians and to academics and to people that you royalty and people that you just, you would never think like how did you get into that position of power in the first place if you're this disgusting, evil, decrepit person on the inside. Epstein, that in his 50s, was also suspected of organizing sex activities with underage girls at his homes in New York City, New Mexico and on his private island in the Caribbean. We're talking about hundreds of children all over the world. Victims that were alleged sex slaves of Jeffrey Epstein that they broke up with from Eastern Blocked Countries. I've seen hundreds and hundreds of girls go through Jeffrey's swinging door, his ever revolving door. This guy is big time. He knows people that know people that know people. White logs from his plane and his address book read like a who's who of some of the richest and most famous and powerful people in the world. Celebrities, actors, philanthropists, academics and world leaders. It's really disappointing to look as a lawyer, to look at this circumstance and say, how did this happen? One individual commits one abuse of a minor and one instance of abuse of a minor and they're held accountable for years and years through the criminal justice system. This individual abused hundreds of girls and nothing happened. It's really, really unfortunate. We look at that and we say, how did the criminal justice system fail these girls in such a significant way? How has that happened? There was ample physical evidence and witness testimony to support the girl's stories, including notepad seized from Epstein's home with their names and phone numbers along with phone records. Despite the corroborating evidence, Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Kircher wanted to charge Epstein only with a misdemeanor. And once that happened, it was clear to me that justice would not be served by the State Attorney in the handling of the case and were referred to the FBI. Then there were many, many more victims after that time. Epstein hired somebody that would impress the State Attorney Barry Kircher to drop the investigation. The U.S. Attorney's office got involved with this case with Jeffrey Epstein's a list of defense attorneys that are extremely well known and extremely powerful. I think these attorneys were able to manipulate the sitting U.S. attorney and the assistant U.S. attorney working the cases. There were a few things happened in this case that during my law enforcement career, I've never seen before. The U.S. attorneys here had an indictment and they were sending it back and forth to Jeffrey Lawyers for changes. Never seen anything like that before. Well, I started getting somewhat of an inclination that this is a situation where somehow, for some reason, the defendant and the government are working together against the victims. Although that kind of conspiracy theory sounds so preposterous that I didn't want to believe it. A subsequent FBI investigation found a sprawling network of victims and enough evidence to fill a 53-page indictment with federal sex crime charges. The Miami U.S. attorney Alexander Acosta signed off on a secret plea bargain while deliberately non-informing Epstein's victims. The deal granted Epstein and his accomplices immunity from federal prosecution. Epstein pleaded guilty in state court to two prostitution charges and served 13 months. Epstein's punishment was like that of no other sex offender in Florida. He had a private space and a vacant wing of the Palm Beach County stockade. But record show he spent limited time there. He was allowed to go to his private West Palm Beach office where he spent up to 12 hours a day, six days a week, often accepting visitors, including female friends. Well, he had a plea to was a joke. The sentence he served was even a bigger joke. And then his probation was a slap in everybody's face. The government by that agreement was definitely putting their name on something that they believed at that moment was ending the possibility of prosecution and ending the victim's rights. Right there. That's what the government believed. How can you do that to all these girls? How can you tell them that what he did was okay? Acosta, now President Trump's labor secretary, didn't explain why he sealed the details of Epstein's plea so that no one would know the scope of Epstein's crimes or who was involved. Years later, he said he and his staff were bombarded by Epstein's army of legal superstars, who launched a year-long assault against him and other prosecutors that they took all the way to the U.S. Attorney General in Washington, D.C. Really, if you think about it too hard, it's scary because this is our government that's supposed to protect us, but has done everything to protect, you know, a pedophile. He lists his residence as the U.S. Virgin Islands, but his flight record show that he takes trips around the United States and Europe in his new private plane. This is probably the most unjust outcome of any case that I've been involved in. There's so many of us that they just can't forget about it. It's not something that's going to be yesterday's news. He needs to be behind bars. He needs to be behind bars for the rest of his life. There are way too many girls for him not to be. It's just a mind-blowing. All right, so there we go. That really kind of summarizes some of the issues and the problems with this case and also shows us that it goes to the highest of levels within the U.S. government internationally. This case is on a completely different level when it comes to accountability and even the people involved and stuff like that. This is almost, you know, for conspiracy theorists and stuff like that, this is almost, frankly, a dream case because it validates so many of the things that we've talked about and heard over the years that there's this elite network and they potentially, possibly allegedly, use sexual blackmail and things like that where they have powerful ring leaders that are videotaping essentially politicians and academics, even as I said, which is interesting. I want to talk more about that later. Other high ups, even royals, Prince Andrew, Duke of York, and then, of course, consequently, potentially, then, are extracting favors from them, extracting the power and the leverage that they have through this blackmail. So, again, much to have weighed through here, Adam, but what do you make of it in the summary that we just watched here? That girl, she got 75 girls for Epstein from 14, 15, 16 years old and there's hundreds of girls. His thirst is lust for young girls. Like 18 years old isn't good enough. He just has to get them. Has to be 13 and 14. And also what that prosecutor said about how, you know, it sounded like a conspiracy theorist that the government was working with Epstein's lawyers to cover this up and that it sounded so preposterous that he didn't want to believe it. I feel like that's how a lot of conspiracies work. So over the top that people just can't accept them. It shows it goes to the highest of the elite circles, as we know. And, you know, there is questions of who put this pressure on someone like a cost, for example, Alec Sandro Costa, who we heard in there. He was a, he was a district attorney for Southern, in Southern Florida at the time. Now he's a labor secretary under Trump, right? And it sounds even like, yes, he played along and did all these things, but he was actually even threatened himself to do this, right? He's a, in other words, a compromised individual, which we then can conclusively say is now in the Trump administration too, but this is, this is the nature. Either a cost, a cost is compromised or he's controlled by somebody that's compromised. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He's just a puppet put in the right place and right position to do whatever they want, want him to do. I think that Dershowitz connection is very, very interesting and I'm very important as well because he's, of course, one, what he's almost one of these like the top lawyer in America, you know, Fox News loves to go to him, of course, for their other legal questions and stuff like that. And he's a, he's a big name. I think he's up almost 80 now or something like that. And Victoria Roberts, which is one of the prime witnesses have, of course, fought him and she has accused him of sleeping with her, I guess, raping her really in a sense and being violent towards her and stuff like that. And he's, you know, categorically, categorically denied this. There's nothing to it and stuff like that. But I don't know. I think that he is actually a key component in this. What's your view on Dershowitz and what role he actually allegedly, we must say, legally here, have played in all of this. Yeah. Well, of course, he denies it all. The tie in with Mike Cernovich. How Cernovich did his documentary, hoaxed with Dershowitz was in it. And I believe they had some law, lawyer connection as well. Dershowitz also, his connections to Habad and how he's always so pro-Trump and pro-Zionist. And he also got OJ off the hook. Also he was, OJ's lawyer. So definitely, it's weird that like he's defending Epstein and he's friends with Epstein, but he's also blamed in all this and he's been denying it. But you know, I think a lot of people aren't, aren't believing him, especially now that he's getting arrested. One of the headlines was that people are sweating, you know, important big, big time, big timers are sweating and nervous that they're going to get in trouble and they're going to get dragged into this and he's definitely the first on the list. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was actually looking for that photo of Cernovich and there it actually is. Let me pull it in right here. Here it is. There he is, right? Meeting. That was his producer there to the left as well. I forget what his name was, but this was when we're doing silence, I believe, or something. They got a lot of money, a fundraiser to do the documentary. And yeah, meeting with Dershowitz, which is interesting, of course, because Cernovich have been kind of a key component in exposing this allegedly, right? Is it the key component if you ask him? He's not so modestly taking, he's mad that he's not getting the credit in the media, that he was filed for these documents to be released and he's trying to take credit saying, yeah, Cernovich, media did this. Yeah. Is there any truth to that? Well, he apparently is the one that filed the lawsuit, but what I've heard is that he's filing to have the same Jane Doe's released the same thing that Dershowitz wanted. So he's filing the same motions as Dershowitz, but saying that he's not working with him so I find that a little odd. Yeah. Did you see Brian Young of High Impact Flakes did a little bit of analysis of Dershowitz and kind of how he reasons and stuff like that? I don't know if you saw this, but I have also a short clip of that. Let's take a look at that. Just getting to the mind of someone like Dershowitz, because again, I think if he's the guy that essentially got Epstein acquitted, then he's a key component in this. He's a node point in the network, if you will. Keep in mind too that Alan Dershowitz was actually responsible for making sure that Roberts, Victoria Roberts, Affidavit, what actually thrown out. In other words, her testimony was not taken into consideration and heard at the end of the day. And of course, we've been to that with Dershowitz, you know, the kind of the accusations. But let's take a look at that clip just to see how he reasons Brian Young did a good job on the series. Dershowitz own mouth. He didn't choose to defend pedophile Jeffrey Epstein because he thought his client was innocent. He didn't do it because he thought it was a grave injustice to lock away Epstein for having done nothing wrong. He defended him because he knew he couldn't be fired. I felt I had an obligation to take on the most unpopular cases because I couldn't be fired. So I couldn't be fired. I don't know what the hell kind of reason that is, but let's proceed with the partial recap. But I'm going to continue to try to get the best deal I can. Well, this is quite... I thought in guilty people acquitted of murder. I thought in guilty people acquitted of murder. But if you ever question the phrase, lawyers or liars, here's your proof. The only catch is, at this moment, he's actually telling the truth. Dershowitz is admitting here that he's a professional promoter and defender of evil by way of deceit and crafty legal arguments. Well, this is where it does get more complicated for you in your personal life because you're now being sued by one of the women who was involved in that original investigation of Epstein Virginia Roberts is her name who claims that Epstein lent her out for sex to some of his friends, including you. When she was under age, you've been very vocal in your denials. Now she's suing you for defamation saying you're falsely attacking her, trying to intimidate her into silence. You said that you welcomed this lawsuit. I don't. I don't. I want... Is there anything that could come out of this guy's mouth that could possibly be believed? So let's listen to him defend himself against allegations that Epstein loaned out a child for sex to Mr. Defender of the guilty himself. And I also welcome her coming on the show and accusing me face to face. She has never accused me except under the protection of the litigation privilege because it's completely false. Let me tell you what the evidence is. It's just very brief. Let me just tell you what the evidence is. Yeah, it's still in quickly. Yeah. Well, so go, Mr. Defender, attorney. Defend yourself. Proof to us that you didn't have sex with a kid who was loaned out to you by the very serial child sex offender and trafficker, you got to go free. She has an email exchange with a journalist in which she admitted she didn't have sex with me. She writes a book manuscript in which she says she knew me. She didn't know me, but she didn't have sex with me. She told her best friend she didn't want to accuse me, but she was pressured to do it by her lawyers. There's a tape recording of her own lawyer saying it would be impossible for me to have sex with her and her and she was wrong simply. Notice he keeps looking down at his notes. So he had the talking points for his defense down before he even walked on the set. And none of what he says is anything that we can verify. Wrong. I have travel records showing that I couldn't have been any of the places she said she had sex with me. I asked Louis Free, the former head of the FBI, to do a thorough investigation. He came to the conclusion that she was making a false accusation. Louis Free, former head of the FBI, one of the most corrupt organizations in the world is going to speak on your behalf. I'm sure Dershowitz has many friends and high places who are willing to cover for him. I have been falsely accused. I support the MeToo movement, but when a woman falsely accuses for financial reasons, she was hoping to get a third of a billion dollars. Sure, Alan here has never had any power or money motive in his defense of high-profile millionaire and billionaires. Sowing Leslie Wexner, the owner of Victoria's Secret, she also accused him in private after accusing me in public, hoping to get a third of a billion dollars. Where do I get that figure from? She told that to her best friend. I have that on tape. So I am welcoming this trial. This is the first opportunity I have to conclusively prove my innocence. He actually wants you to believe his case for his innocence after he just admitted to putting murders back out of the street. I have invited the FBI. Alan, you got to trial. Alan, they want me to get the book away. This guy and many, many others in media and government complete the cycle of psychological operations where the goal is to remove any and all sensitivities to that which is good, right, fair, true, noble, decent and just. All right, that's it, Brian John. Thank you for that segment. Good job on that. It really shows you the mentality and what a professional bender of truth this guy really is, right? And the fact that there's like, there's no morality that's back in this up. It's just unscrupulous. Whatever we can do to manipulate the courts and just win and get it in our favor, let's do that. It's very, it's impossible to trust a guy like this, to be honest, whatever he said. Right. I saw this video a while back. It's been out for a little bit and I actually talked to Brian of high impact flicks today. Oh, good. He was asking me what I thought about the the Cernivage aspect and all this, how he ties in. Yeah. So, latest here about this, just as well as they kind of said in the interview there, too, first, he actually welcomed the lawsuit. And now the latest update here, just this is a few days ago, he wanted tossed out right now. So things are heating up around these guys, right? Something is happening. Something is going down. There's a couple of things. One of them is the prior coverage that we did of the story and just quickly went through some of the headlines because we actually had to say, I think there would be just interesting two people if they could find this interesting that we had covered, you know, since I've written about this back in 2011, 2015, 2007, I think is when this picked up and we started posting on this on the website headlines like this, Prince Andrews friend, Gisleine Maxwell, some underage girls and a very disturbing story. Prince Andrew named in U.S. lawsuit over underage sex claims, how Alan Dershowitz bullied rape victims to protect a serial child molester. And this is actually from back in 2015, but I realized today that it was most likely, it was one of the victims of, in this case, of the Epstein, one girl that was a part of Epstein's sex ring, sex slave, essentially, that actually wrote to me. This is many years ago now and she actually kindly asked me to remove an article and the, and of course, this was all over the place at the time. It was daily mail and stuff. I think the only, we had done like small additions, maybe put some extra photos in there. Much of the article was like quotations from like daily mail or the guardian or something like that. But she was explaining how I'm seeking to move on and I don't want this out there kind of anymore. And I believe it was Victoria Roberts. And now of course, she changed her mind on this because she actually had a child of her own. She explained this in one of the interviews and said like, well, we have to get this out there and stuff. And actually for that reason, I, I didn't honor that and it was not to be mean to her. It was just like, hey, this is so important. Like there's other victims out there. This has to be known. And you know, I, she wrote to me on an email I no longer have. Again, this is like 2007 or 2008 or something like that. But this is kind of interesting that she was out there and trying to kind of just leave this behind her and move on. And it wasn't until she had a child to realize that this could happen to my kids someday. I have to speak out. So now the, the cats kind of out of the box and anything could really come from this. What do you think is going to happen with the names? The latest we heard they are, as if I can find that here. Yeah, Jeff Reppstein is set to give up names of individuals who paid for underage sex in return for a maximum prison sentence that will not exceed five years. No, sounds like another good deal to me, frankly, in terms of what has been been involved in here. So my tech on this was likely he'll actually throw lesser people orbiting the elite circles under the bus and not give us any of the big names and the essential key people. What do you think is going to happen? I think if anything happens, he's the one that's going to take the fall. I don't think that he's going to out anybody, any of his handlers or anybody that's above him. Maybe he will throw some lesser people down, but not any of his, not anybody above him in the pyramid. And the questions as someone else said that even if those kind of more insignificant people are exposed or revealed, then of course there will be an investigation on to them and what they knew and who they worked with kind of thing. But this could be one of those like key stones here that basically gets the whole arc to collapse and fall apart. I don't want to get my hopes up. We always know that of course there's a lot of corrupt people and a lot of people on the way here within the justice system as we've seen as evidence by the case already, that will simply do everything that he takes to keep this, to put the lid back on to maybe throw a couple of sacrifices out there for people essentially, some scapegoats. But I don't know what's your view on it. Are we going to, is something big you're going to come from this? I don't, I don't know where this is going. I have no idea. I don't have the answers. I'm a little confused by it. I'm just trying to figure out exactly what's going on like everybody. I think it's interesting that Victoria Roberts didn't want the story out. She contacted you, but then she had her child. That's the same story that we heard from the guys that spoke out about Michael Jackson, that they grew up and had their children and that's what got them to change their mind as well. Oh, but you know, I don't know. We already have such big names. You know, what is it? The Duke and the prince. Trump was connected. E-Hood Baroque. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah. He was mentioned there and, you know, again, Prince Andrew Duke of York, he means that these people are roping in royalty. You know, they're roping in some of the highest up within like, you know, within the West essentially. And so, you know, the speculation here, of course, it's easy. It's easy to over speculate. It is easy to just kind of go fool on out when these kinds of things are real and you say like, oh, this is it. This is the network and, you know, all these ties to elite pedophile rings and circles and stuff like that. But of course, you know, it's, when you're handing, handed this kind of stuff, it's not a surprise. It's not a surprise that people go in this direction and start talking about it. Now I've always felt that this is one of the mechanisms by which they enforce control essentially. And the same thing she mentioned with academia was very interesting. She actually, Virginia Roberts specifically talked about Harvard as being one of the, like a lot of high up people within Harvard were actually roped into this and they had sex with her and these kinds of things. That basically means that the whole damn system that we're getting right now from everything from from globalism to enforcement of like the PC culture essentially and we have to call it, not we can't say replacement anymore. I think I think that's a band word. So you have to say like a substitute, the substitution politics that's ongoing right now is enforced by individuals like this, right? There are in these spheres, they are doing these kinds of things and again, either they are either they willfully walked into it or they were fooled into it essentially and maybe they were, you know, kind of videotaped and stuff like this. But so many people in the conspiracy field have always kind of talked about this that this is how they keep control. This is how they only let the right individuals sort of speak into positions of influence and power because they will never go outside of bounds. They will never derail in some way or or or go outside of what the agenda is because they will always have someone and something over their head. They can say you stay in line or you do this on this decision or don't do that or whatever. It could just be about nudging them just at the right time at the right positions might not be a hyper control of the whole picture every individual, but it's about the fact that if you hold something over someone and they know who's who's the boss, if you wouldn't know what I mean, then they will be compromised and they will be controlled, right? Yeah, it's like it's when you look deep into this, it seems like Epstein isn't the front, he's just a frontman for like a bigger like Masad, Blackmail, sex, sex ring or something like that. He's like the administrator. The organizer you could say essentially, right? Come like a sex addict, I guess, right? He says an endless stream of young girls and this is all that he does kind of thing. But what's interesting about this is that weaved into that is an interest and an agenda which has to do with getting famous people to go to his island and essentially what it looks like then offer them free sex with underaged girls. I haven't heard anything of boys being involved yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's with some things that happened as well, maybe even younger in ages in the age, but get them there. And then in some way offer them these services again, either because he wants something in return or again, it's much more nefarious and much more deeper than that, that it's about controlling those individuals. Bill Clinton was there, Trump was there, you know, and Trump actually was apparently one of the guys that were willing to give information to the prosecutors and actually sat down and called the guys and said, you know, actually, he was a good guy. We actually play that clip real quick because it shows a little bit here is what he said during an interview. I think it's Hannity. Let's just listen to this. Bill Clinton. Nice guy. Got a lot of problems coming up in my opinion with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems. So that's kind of interesting. And then again, the prosecutor checked this little portion out here too regarding Trump. Obviously, our current president has had relationships with Epstein in the past. And there are those Katie Johnson and maybe other victims who accused Trump of being involved in things like this. In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything along those lines. Obviously, we're not a court of law here right now. But are those claims of the that case was dropped? It was dropped before it went to court. And your opinion as a lawyer and your experience, is there anything you can say as to the validity of those claims or whether or not there will be any more about that? Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I wanted to talk to them. He is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let's just talk. I'll give you as much time as you want. I'll tell you what you need to know. And was very helpful in the information that he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever. But had good information, that checked out and that helped us. And that we didn't have to take a deposition of him. That was in 2009. That was in 2009. Interesting. So maybe this is not the thing that they have on Trump. You know what I mean? Well, that would explain why he's being arrested now because it doesn't make sense why he would be arrested if Trump was involved and that would bring Trump down. Maybe it is someone that's trying to get to him through this case or something too. I really don't know. But apparently he threw out again, Victoria Roberts was at Mar-a-Lago when Epstein recruited her, right? Essentially like Peter Monty to do all these things. And apparently Trump kicked him out of that when he found out about this and never invited him back and stuff like that. So maybe on this case his hands are clean or whatever. But again, it's just, let's just kind of wait through some of the headlines here because did you see some of the stuff that's happening actually on the island as well when it comes to this weird temple and stuff like that? Did you see some of the images of that? It's like, I sure have. It's weird. Everybody calls it a temple and I saw true news is taken on it today. It was so funny. Rick Wiles was like, it's a Kabbalah satanist temple and they're sacrificing children. He didn't hold back at all. But I think it looks like the dome of the rock on the temple map. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. They want to destroy. Exactly. And you have this like a little, you know, owl has always been a symbol kind of associated with like the Illuminati and stuff like that. He has kind of a, the blue and the white stripes is kind of like a Shriner temple really. And there is some, you know, rumors about underground facilities and this image here that claim it as like, well, this is, I can actually go up in full screen on that image there. It's an elevator room, right? That actually, because it's fairly small, the footprint of this thing. So it actually goes deeper down and further into it. And again, I should, we spoke about this on the We Can Warrior show. But there are, and again, all of this is rumors. It's very difficult to confirm this stuff. At least at this stage, we just have to see if anything comes out of this and actually is revealed when they request more evidence. But this article claimed that there was someone that claimed that they knew about Epstein, they knew about, you know, the island and stuff like that. I posted it on Instagram post. There was like a photo of a screen with surveillance cameras, right? And apparently, you know, people did some kind of forensics of this and said, here's like, it's underground, some kind of underground facility. There's kids there. You know, stairs there. Yeah. Again, is the link there? I don't know. This is massive speculation, but it's interesting. Well, I read today that the police raided the whole island just like they had a warrant for his house in his apartment in Manhattan and found all the pornography underage girls. And check this out. If that's true, and depending on when that was, there was actually a massive fire on the island. The date for this is January 5th that neighbors, neighboring island, people all neighboring islands had seen a massive fire at the island. And people were speculating that, of course, he had, it was intentional to burn evidence, maybe even this temple or whatever the hell it is, the elevator shaft was part of that and burning, burned down. I don't know. I just hope that we get more information about this. It's just a bunch of questions. They're burning all the, the whips and chains and sex toys. Exactly. All the dildos up in smoke. Yeah. Nothing to laugh at, I guess, but it's it's it's macabre. So we have to kind of joke a little bit about it too. That little black book is one of the points that people have pointed to, which actually was essentially a contact book that Epstein had for all these people. There were there flight logs of the Lolita Express as it was referred to. And it's just like a massive list of really wealthy and powerful and influential people. And you have to ask to what end was Epstein trying to seek these people to be part of something like this. And it's also kind of surprising how few people of these people have actually said, heck no, I'm going to expose you. I'm going to speak out. Yeah, it's, I know it's kind of small on the screen there on that. But it's just some of the. He was trying to say that that Trump was trying to like low key expose him when he did, you know, he was interviewed a decades ago and said that he's a great guy and a lot of fun to hang out with and that he likes young women as much as I do or something like that. And you know, there's two ways you can look at that. Like he knows and he's telling people like, oh yeah, he's that he likes the young girls, like he's trying to warn people or he just, you know, Trump's like, yeah, I like the young girls too, which, you know, he's always been very proud of him and his, his womanizing, his, the woman that he gets. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that was posted on zero head, Jibat, his little black book and people can look into that too, which was interesting. Check out this line here. The book was smuggled out of Epstein's resident by his former house manager, Alfredo Rodriguez, who was busted, trying to sell it in 2009 for $50,000 only to get caught, charged with obstruction of justice and die in prison 18 months from a long illness. So that's kind of odd, right? There's a lot of these things around this case as well where people have just completely folded or they've died or they're vanished. It's almost like the Clintons little hit list kind of. He released the secret notebook and that's obstruction of justice. That's not. Yeah. So again, maybe because he stole something, I don't know what the claim is there. But again, the scary part of this is just like one of the victims said, one of the girls is that we think that like, we're dealing with people who are supposed to protect us and look after us and be the law and all this kind of stuff. But these people are in on it. These people are compromised or they're intentionally there to actually to wreak havoc. And the question is how far and how deep this goes. And I think it goes almost all the way to the top. The question is who's who's not part of this, right? Who's who's not part of these networks if they're if they hold any kind of influence and power. And it is kind of scary, right? Definitely. Yeah. Anybody that's chilling for hard for Zion, there's a good chance that that could be a reason why. Prince Andrew Sex allegations slave girl Virginia Roberts claims she had orgy with orgy with Duke and eight other girls, right? He's been roped into this too. They have issued statements and said, no, we had nothing to do with this or whatever. But her testimony is there. And again, Dershowitz managed to get that thrown out in the last sentencing. So it was first time Epstein was just got this really kush sentencing. He could literally walk out the facility practically whenever he wanted. He had to just return at night essentially, but get visit everyone do whatever the hell he wanted, which proves that it was a big, it was a big farce essentially the first sentencing got. Yeah, the guy Chris Scher, the prosecutor wanted to give him a misdemeanor. And then also in 2007, he had a plea agreement where it was a non prosecution agreement. He was never federally charged only in 2008. He pled guilty to state court of one count of procuring underage, a girl for prostitution. It's a felony and for solicitation of prostitution. Yes. And he's a flight risk. They're talking about that he's going to try to pay bail. And the guy's off international man of mystery. He's going to flee in a heartbeat on his private jet to one of his many mansions around the world. Exactly. US to we're he and I guess many other people too if they're named or even be even preemptively. So I heard him passing it again. What show, but it's like watch which people are going to leave, you know, in the United States or Europe and go to like, you know, Cuba or something like that, try to get it out polytech. Exactly, yeah, that's right. No, there is the tie here to Israel to 1989, and that's kind of a definitely kind of an underpinning here. I do want to squeeze into that extra little testimony from Miami harrow that we had from Virginia Roberts, because again, she's the girl we can see here in the picture. She has been key in restarting all of this and she's been a key problem again for Dershowitz and for Epstein. But let's just take a look at that clip that I had because I think it's worth to hear a little bit more from her. So check this out. Virginia Roberts was working in the spa at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach. When British, socialite, Gaelin Maxwell introduced her to multi-millionaire, Jeffrey Epstein. The training started immediately. I mean, it was everything down to how to give a blowjob, how to be quiet, be subservient, give Jeffrey what he wants. A lot of this training came from Gaelin herself. And being a woman, it kind of surprises you that a woman could actually let stuff like that happen, but not only let it happen, but to groom you into doing it. And then there's Jeffrey who's telling you, I want it this way. Go slower and don't do that and do this. And eventually it led to, well, now we're going to experiment and we're going to try you with another guy and see how you go. So they sent me to an island with a professor and I basically had to do what I did for Jeffrey for him. So it's very private. I think she's talking about Dershowitz there, actually. For a billionaire getting away with what he was doing. He could hold big parties there and have huge orgies there and nobody would have any idea of what was going on because it was so quiet and so protected. And it started with one and then it trickled into two and then someone and so forth. And before you know it, I'm being linked out to politicians and to academics and to people that you royalty. Robert's claimed in an affidavit the two of them in that Epstein went around to were attorney Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Dershowitz and Prince Andrew have both denied any involvement with Roberts. A judge later struck Roberts affidavit from the court record, but the ruling did not address the veracity of her allegations. Dershowitz said he was nonetheless vindicated. It's called Lolita expressed for a reason that was a vessel for him to be able to abuse girls and get away with it without anybody being alarmed or any alarm bells going off. It was all the same no matter where you went. All Jeffrey cared about was go find me more girls. To me, still to this day, it is my biggest shame that I carry around that I will never get rid of. And I'm really, really sad that I brought other girls my age and even younger into a world that they should have never been introduced to. At age 19, Roberts said that she was sent to Thailand to take a massage course and to pick up a girl for Epstein. Instead, she fell in love and moved to Australia where she and her husband lived with their three children. I escaped. I called Jeffrey to let him know that I was not coming back and I was not bringing the little Thai girl back and he said, you know what, have a nice life and hung up the phone. And that was it. And I thought, I'm off the hook, I'm off the chain, I can go, I can live free, 2007 I was pregnant with my middle son. And I get a phone call from Gila in one day in Australia, I'm in Australia. I was like, how the hell did she just find me? Like, I've been out of their life for so long, what's going on? She's like, have you talked to anybody? Have you told anybody what's happened? Like, you know, have you reported us or anything? I said no. I haven't spoken to anybody. Okay, good, you stay like that, you stay quiet. The next day Jeffrey calls me with his lawyer on the phone and he asks me, the same questions. Have you talked to anybody? Are you going to report me? Are you going to talk to anybody? And I'm like, where is this all coming from? Like, what is going on the next day? I get another phone call. And this time it's from an FBI agent. Like, hi, I'm blah, blah, blah from the FBI. Have you given Jeffrey Epstein a blowjob? Did you have a shower with Jeffrey Epstein? Did you ever bring any girls over for Jeffrey Epstein? I'm like, I don't even know who you are. Six months later, I get a knock at the door and it's the Australian federal police. There's like 12 page documents about Jeffrey Epstein and what he had done and how, you know, I was a victim and they've identified me as one. It takes so long to get to a point where you're able just to speak about it. I mean, it took me having a daughter and looking at this beautiful, young, innocent baby to say, I want to speak out about it now. You know, if we can make that point across, that doesn't matter how rich you are, it doesn't matter how powerful you are. These guys will get it in the end. All right. So that's her testimony. So it was an affidavit. So I was using the right terms of my spacing for a moment. So just to manage to get her affidavit thrown out, which was a key one, of course, to rope him and others into it. But again, it's like it's a web of just disgusting behavior and people that are covering up. They're covering for each other. It's money involved for these girls. It's actually a fairly small amount. If you're 100 bucks here, I was surprised by that. I thought it was like in the thousands. But again, since these were girls that were, you know, they were, they were poor. They had, you know, abuse issues within families and stuff. They were homeless in some cases. You know, they were perfect to also keep it cheap, right? And so as you said, Adam, if she only her managed to get like 75 other women, they were and he puts pressure on them to also continue to do the same. I just wonder what kind of a number we're talking about here. It's got to be in the thousands, to be honest. Oh, so many. And just imagine the giant orgies they had on that island and Clinton visited there so many, so many times, Epstein bragged that he was like behind the Clinton foundation or help start the Clinton foundation. Yeah. I think Clinton was there. It was at 26 times. And the latest news I heard is that he denied that he was there. Oh, really he's denying it. Now I saw that he made a statement. I didn't see what it was. But my wonder why he'd go there so many times to the same, a busy guy like Clinton. Yeah. Let me, let me pull this up here. I'm, I'm googling this as we speak. Breaking Bill Clinton denies knowing anything about his better file, friend Jeffrey Epstein, but flight logs show otherwise, right? So yeah, former president Bill Clinton was a long term frame with the head of the Epstein a really sustainment about the billionaires arrest over the weekend and charges related to sex abuse and trafficking. President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein cleared a guilt into in Florida some years ago or those with which he has been recently charged in New York in 22 2003. President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane, one to Europe, one to Asia and to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton foundation. spokesperson for Clinton said staff supporters of the foundation and his secretary service detailed travel on every leg of the trip. He had one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002 and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein's New York apartment with the staff member, blah, blah, but we know, I mean, we know, I mean, this is what even this is what Monica Lewinsky was about. This guy could literally he had to dip everything with two legs essentially, right? I mean, he couldn't he couldn't keep his hands off whatever it was that showed up. So clearly he's he's involved in this and they're just trying to cover this up. There might not be a specific proof now, but their pictures of him with Epstein and even with girls and stuff like that, right? I mean, Clinton's the guy that part that told the world, lied to the world that he did not have sexual relations with that woman. Yeah. Now he expects us to believe him about this. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, here is the Clinton foundation. Yeah, who's that on the left with with Trump and that's Mulani on the right. I think it's on the right, but on the left, no idea. Looks like some playboy model. She has to I think that logo right on her shirt there. So yeah, the Clinton foundation has been accused of trafficking as well. Absolutely. Yeah, that will make sense. That will hate you debacle. And again, I mean, I remember that that that strip where the pizza shop was was like, you know, the Clinton Foundation had their little offices right across from there. And that's where the issue of the Clinton foundation kind of initiated their Haiti response. I think after the earthquake, was it in Haiti? Like there's weird connections and stuff like that. And personally, I think that, you know, this idea with that location of this pizza, I think that that's a deflection. It's to take kind of a way. It's to hone in on a little area, which is like much bigger than this and and form any wider connections. I think that was a very convenient way for them to to kind of divert off that. And then you have that guy who was like walked in there and apparently shot up the place and stuff like that. So that kind of derailed for that cycle that went and tried to burn it down that no more news guy. Yeah, you work. It's stuff. What was his naming and the other cookie guy who was thrown off a Twitter? He accused you of being that guy, right? Jacob Walden. Walden, that's right. Exactly. Yeah. You sent some links for Dershowitz as well. Let's get into some of those. Adam, let me pull them up here. A broad honors Alan Dershowitz at seven hundred and seventy. Is that right? I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. He's a number. He's a maybe was it at 70. And this is the. He also helped get Shalom Rubishkin, his pardon that Trump did when he first got into office. Okay. So Dershowitz is a close friend of of Habad. Oh, sorry. I saw it here. Seven hundred and seventies referred to the address Easton Parkway and I guess New York or something. Oh, it's their headquarters in Crown Lake. Yeah. So at everyone is what at seventy seven. He means so. I thought it was at a six six six. That's for cushion. That's cushion or exactly. I think you so I think you sold that at the end or something. Didn't he? He did. Yeah. He lost a bunch of money on it too. Yeah. That's right. So that you sold it to actually or who he bought. It too or sold it to was a Israeli group. Oh man, I'm forgetting the name of it now. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh no, it's fine. That's an interesting thing. I didn't know who he fought like crazy to buy that property by the way. And he did as you say to lose a lot of money on that. Dershowitz at Shabbat. This is pretty long, but I guess he did a speech. Oh no, don't we're not going to play it. I'm sure he's all over Habad's website because Habad ties in some other connections as well with Leslie Wechner. Yeah. Wechner. I read something about it and he is the guy. He's today he owns Victoria Secret. It was another guy that started initially, but he bought it up and he turned it into this kind of whole thing that it is. And he was roped in as because Epstein worked on his financial with his finances or something like that. I believe I forget exactly what the connection was. What I was going to say is this. I know this is off topic, but it was the car-allowed group that invested in Kushner 666. Oh, interesting. Yeah. You know them from 9-11 and a bunch of Zionists are there too. Interesting. Yeah, there he is at Oxford Habad. Oxford also honored the Rothschilds, which that's how Dershowitz met Epstein was through Lady Lynn Evelyn Rothschild. And then they went to to less Wechner's birthday party shortly after that. And that's when they all became friends according to Dershowitz. That's interesting. I didn't know about that. Yeah, so there's a lot of high rollers here. Epstein accuses us as he was assaulted in billionaire less Wechner's home. One of sex offenders Jeff Epstein's accuser claimed that he had been assaulted in the home of billionaire Leslie Wechner. Epstein was arrested Saturday. Blah blah. Wechner is a co-founder and CEO of L Brands, which includes Victoria Secrets, all these other companies. This guy is very, very wealthy. Net worth of 4.7 billion, making him the richest person in Ohio, where he resides. What do you know anything about Wechner and his other connections? Yeah, yes, absolutely. He's a huge Zionist. He's a founding finance here of the birthright movement, you know, how they get all the Jews to go to the real world. Oh, is he behind birthright, really? He funds that with the Bronfmans and the Rothschilds. And that's interesting because the Bronfmans are also just recently, their aero-risk, got pled guilty for the Nexium sex cult. So another sex ring connected to the Bronfmans, which Edgar Bronfman was the head of the world-Jewish Congress that's getting rid of your Thor hammer up there in Sweden. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's interesting. Let's just kind of wait through some of these headlines here. Jeff Raepstein, international money man of mystery. Again, I think that the connection is to Wechner. Yeah, they're saying he's not a billionaire. And really, he's just, he doesn't like when people say this, but Leslie Wechner basically made him. He was his first billionaire client. So people speculate that he's like a frontman, a hatchet man for Wechner that does like the dirty work. Or also, he's handled by Gisellein Maxwell and her dad was Masad and a big time Zionist as well. And his Havaud connections with Wechner. He's a frontman for a sex blackmail operator ring. Yeah, that's right. Gisellein is actually a key component here because she's the one who initiated contact with the younger girls on behalf of Epstein. And again, not to sure what her, what her angle is, what she's getting out of this and how she even what initially was tied to Epstein, but she's a British socialite and the youngest child of publisher Robert Maxwell. And he's a Jewish guy from Czechoslovakia originally ended up going over to the UK setting up like newspapers and stuff like that. So major publishing houses and things like that. A lot of money, wealthiest hell as well. Yeah, a media mogul. He was a huge Zionist that helped arm the the Zionist in 1948. And also he convinced a Czechoslovakia to arm them. And then he when he died, he was buried in Jerusalem. So he was the homeland. Yep. He's going to say that Mount of Olives, Jerusalem cemetery or Jewish cemetery in Jerusalem. So that's pretty interesting, right? So he's an important cog in this. And I would assume that the daughter was kind of like tasked with like continuing this and stuff like that and just essentially being the go between between people like Wechner and Epstein and then being tied to all these other individuals in Europe, essentially. So Timor Hirsch, I think wrote a book on on Maxwell and said that he was a Mossad agent. And and then he died mysteriously. He drowned off of his yacht. And he he was involved Maxwell. He was involved with last alamos and stealing nuclear technology as well, something like that. So just another one of these kind of like Arnon, Millcon, Adelson, like, you know, billionaire that are just so pro Israel. Director, they have a tie in through other businesses and industries, essentially, right? And then they can through that. They can do different things that gets them access to people or individuals or or you know, international things or national, you know, important decision-making, power, influence and stuff like that. And she I mean, listen to those. Gisline, if that's how you pronounce it, I'm not correct here on that, but she found it a successful women's club named after the original Kit Kat club in the 18th century Lawnan, which of course again was the recruitment, you know, the the main source of where she was getting the initial girls, you know, to begin with. So they had an over to America. Got a lot of, you know, girls there. And as we know, most of them too, I guess we could just point that out was it was it just seems to be majority European non Jewish women that he had blondes in many cases too, by the way. Epstein. Yeah, that's what Mala knew it was tweeting. And you know, I think I got that wrong about just to correct myself. Maxwell, what happened was there was a guy, Mordekai Van Anu, who gave information about the the neutral nuclear capabilities, the nooks. And then he had something to do with him getting arrested and convicted of treason and stuff. Oh, interesting. He was in the back end of ensuring that Israel could keep their nuclear weapons in other ways. Yeah. Okay, interesting. Yeah. So yeah, she said, we can't actually pull that up that tweet there by Mala knew he said, I wonder if did Jeffrey Epstein abuse any jayish girls? He got a lot of flak, I guess, for that too. I'm a little surprised this coming from Stefan, because I always thought he was, you know, such a a Zion on board with the Zionist agenda, but apparently not in this instance. Yeah, it's interesting. Apparently he has some heritage on that within that tribe himself. His mom, I believe, is comes from there. But this is a good point. This is similar to the like the Harvey Weinstein type of thing with the with the shicks and how they kind of view them as I sent you over what my monodies says about a Gentile woman. And they kind of have these weird laws where it's like, if you if a J sleeps with a Gentile woman that like she's the one that gets punished similar to, I think that's what we hear about in Islam even. Yeah, do you want me to pull that up actually? I honor killings or something. Yeah, they're like on clean or whatever, right? It comes from this. Now this is a, is it Israel, Shahak, which is the author of this book? That's right. Yeah, Jewish history and Jewish religion. And I saw that tweet from Mollinou, and it got me thinking one of an article from Rachel Weiss, who she was in the mummy. She's a Hollywood actress. She says that Hollywood actors are kind of like prostitutes. And the Hollywood actors is run by you know, who's there you go. Perfect. You have it up. It's at the bottom. It's the bottom the bottom quote is the specific one. Little further of the bold text. Oh, there we go. The bottom of the bold text. The bottom of the bold text. Got it. Okay. There it is. In some way, acting as prostitution and Hollywood Jews don't want their own women to participate. Also, there's an element of Portonot's complaint. They all fancy Aryan belongs. And it seems like Epstein was had that same thing going on. Yeah. I mean, the other three from the Shahak. What it said with the with the wine side just quick comment on the winestein, you know, me two movement and stuff like that. Essentially, it's like that kind of derailed because there was a lot of people who were like not the expected individuals, right? What what ended up happening is like a lot of directors were caught into this. A lot of progressives and you know, people who even declared themselves like being feminists and stuff like this, you know, they were like the main kind of brunt of those that were accused essentially, which kind of steering the whole thing kind of off in the wrong direction. But yeah, anyway, let's switch over and read some of those again. I just briefly skimmed over it. Except the adultery does not apply between a J and a Gentile woman rather the Talmud equates such in a course to the sin of beast reality for the same reason that Gentile and then it says, according to the Talmudic encyclopedia, who he who has carnal knowledge of the wife of a Gentile is not liable to the death penalty for it is written that he fell his wife rather than the aliens' wife, shall cleave unto his wife, which is addressed to the Gentiles does not apply to a Jew. I was as he who is exempted. So this does not imply that sexual intercourse between a J and man and a Gentile woman is permitted quite the contrary. Here's the important part. The main punishment is inflicted on the Gentile woman. She must be executed even if she was raped by the J. And then it says that they had it. The Jew however must be flogged. Here's the most important part. And all Gentile women are presumed to be prostitutes and that's 46. My monity says that. You can skip to the 46 citation here. In this one, the shahak is Jewish by the way. See it right there. As a matter of fact, every Gentile woman is regarded as an acronym for mida, shifa, goya, zona, as being unpurified slave Gentile prostitute. So that's what my monity says, apparently. Interesting. Now of course, I don't know if any of the individuals that were roped into this were religious or not, but this is from the Talmud. Is that correct? The scriptures, the sources for this? Yeah, the 44 citation was, but this one's from my monity. I don't even know what that is. I've never heard of it actually. He's one of the monities is one of the most respected Jewish leaders. Okay, alive or a bastard. That Shapiro loves him. Oh, no, he died a long time ago. Yeah, I would have been figure. Okay, interesting. Yeah, I think I've heard the name in passing, but not too, too, too, up to speed about that. So this is religious teaching and interpretation of religious scriptures from their point of view. And again, I mean, who knows if that plays into this another giveaway and a reveal, of course, too, was that there was a lot of people and they said this in the Miami Harald piece that it was a lot of women from the Eastern block that had been essentially kidnapped. And I remember hearing stories for years about how Israel was a hub actually for sexual slavery. And most cases, there was Eastern European women that were in sex slave rings, whatever you want to call it, in Israel. But every time this has been covered and stuff, it was essentially been blocked and censored and covered up. And we can't really get a lot of information out about that. Yeah, there was a times of Israel article, thousands of slaves in Israel, global study finds. And also times of Israel, diaspora pedophiles increasingly use Israel as a haven activist charge. So they flee there because of the writer return when they get in trouble of their their home countries. And you know, you just said that you're not how she sure how religious these people are behind Epstein. Well, Leslie Wexner, he has an online zohar course at the Wexner Foundation. So he he's teaching the the zohar at his website. Also, he funds he funds groups, he funds Habad groups lamp lighter awards. This is part of yeah, so that's showing lamp lighter awards. It's showing if you scroll down a little bit, it's getting a this Habad award is the last name zuckerman that that guy has dinner at Epstein's house. So the guy that wins Habad awards in less Wexner, the guy behind the millionaire behind Victoria's secret. He also it funds the mega group, which is titans of industry that are joining forces forces to work for Jewish philanthropy. So he's a big Jewish philanthropist as well. And he has the yeah, that's the Habad Center from the rabbi that is affiliated with Wexner. Okay, interesting. So he's a keep keep player in