The New JFK Show #198 Oswald Photo Fakery: Glenn Beck exposed

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All right, everyone, welcome to the new JFK show number 198. And we've got one of our, I guess you would say we have a JFK team here and we have a pinch hitter who comes in from time to time with excellent research. Now, I'm going to go ahead and say it. Amy Joyce, who we had on a few shows ago, is responsible for most. If not all, I'm not exactly sure because I'm not as up on it as I should be. So we're going to go ahead and turn it over to Ralph with some new evidence that Amy Joyce has uncovered. So go ahead. That's why we're having the show, Gary, for you to catch up and the rest of us too to what Amy and Ralph have turned up. This concerns a very important part, I think, of the whole JFK assassination saga, but specifically involves the Oswald assassination. And specific to that, it involves Oswald's arrival at Parkland Hospital and the images and films that have been shown to us. And they're authenticity. That's what we're going to be talking about. Now, keep in mind that I've been aware in my mind for a very long time that some of the images of Oswald at Parkland are false. For example, I think I've brought it with me. And we'll get to it in a minute, but there's an image in which Oswald's on the stretcher. And he's got a hand raised and a fist, which is pretty hard to do when 80% of the blood in your body is excegninated, meaning outside of the blood vessels. And then his other hand is back and is being clasped by one of the detectives, Dirty, detectives caused Dirty. And as if he's there, you know, you'll make it late. Just hang on. But the whole thing, in my opinion, is staged. It's ridiculous that they would have stopped to do that in the midst of conveying into doctors and surgeons. And that's just one example of a phony image. Well, all right, what happened was that Amy Joyce came upon some footage that was put up at the time of the 50th anniversary, so 2013. And it was on an NBC affiliate website. It was the NBC affiliate for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in which they showed some footage of Oswald arriving at Parkland that I found to be utterly weird. And she too, for example, and no images of Oswald at all, not once. So here it is, Oswald arriving at Parkland. And supposedly this is a media photographer or a filmer. And there he is to try to capture Oswald getting to the hospital, never once catch the single image of Oswald. Talk about selling it, what your assignment is. All right, let's bring up the first image. Okay. Okay, this is a picture from the website. It says NBC 10 JFK 50, so it's 2013. And this is the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And this is just an image of JPEG. But if you were on the site, that's a film and you would hit that button and you would start playing. Now, this is some footage that I had never seen before and maybe hadn't seen it. But when she started watching it, we'll go back to her and there you go too fast here. I was trying to play the video, but it won't play. Oh, no, no, that's not a video. I'm saying that if you're on the website, it would be a video. No, it's okay. All right, but go to the next image then, okay? Okay, I'm sorry. So this is the image that got Amy Joyce wondering. This is an image that is supposed to be Detective James Lavelle, the guy who was escorting Oswald, who was on his right side. By the head. Well, yeah, he's got his hat off. We never saw him like that anyway. So what what Amy noticed is that first of all, that guy is looked younger than James Lavelle. He looks likeier than James Lavelle. Like he's probably a fellow man. And he looks thinner than James Lavelle. He's definitely not. He doesn't look like him. I know what James Lavelle looks like and that is not him. I didn't think James Lavelle, even though it appears he's squatting inside the ambulance. Okay, now take a good look at him. Now when I look at that man, I'm thinking to myself, he can't be a day over 35, maybe even like 33. It looks like a pretty young man. All right, go to the next image. Now that's James Lavelle in the Jackson of photos. So that's November 24th, 1963. He was at that time 43 years old. And my opinion is if anything, he was an old looking 43 because he looks down the alley in the face. Yeah, he looked young for his age. If anything, he looked old. He looks a lot older than that other guy. All right, go ahead. Me, I, me, I hazard a suggestion already, Rob. And if, if Lavelle got into the ambulance, then if it was the same ambulance and there'd been no Hankypank, then Lavelle would have to be getting out of the ambulance. So whoever got out since it wasn't Lavelle, they had to identify as though it were. Well, that's, that is the compelling question. Here they are again, side by side. Now keep in mind that as far as I know, I don't know that there was ever any image of James Lavelle without his hat on. As far as the state of his hair at that time, we, we really don't know. I don't know if any of you have any. But go to the next image a second. All right, now this is an image of James Lavelle on the right from March 1964. So it's, you know, a few months later. But you can see that he is obviously an older, more mature man than the man on the left who still has, you know, a tight face and he looks like a boyish in his face and he's definitely, I'm going to say a good 10 years younger. And we want, we want to get Larry's opinion on this because he's done so much work on faces. Larry, would you agree with Ralph's assessment? Well, first of all, I understand that Lavelle was quite a tall man. I think at least what he is, because he's still around. I believe six three at least. Yeah, maybe even six four. Now, this guy leaning over doesn't appear to be that tall. He's got a nice image. All right, now I'm stopped right here because there's something I've got to say. As I was watching that and Amy was trying successfully to sell me on the idea that guy's not Lavelle. I began asking myself, well, why would they not want to show Lavelle? What was there about Lavelle that he had to be replaced in the footage? And I didn't get the conclusion, nothing. I mean, there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't want to show Lavelle. So I started thinking to myself, there must be something else in that footage when Lavelle was getting out of the ambulance, that they didn't want to show such that they recreated it with an actor and just showed us something different. Because they did not want to show us. Now, this is from the original footage that's been available a long time. I've just taken, within a second or two of the image of Glevel getting out of the ambulance. And of course, that's supposed to be Oswald on the stretcher. And I started saying to myself, well, the only thing they could have been trying to avoid by not showing Lavelle is showing Oswald. So they didn't want to show the real Lavelle because they did not want to show the real Oswald. So there must be something wrong with the image of Oswald as it appears in that footage. So this is a frame from that footage. And I began looking at it closely. And what I noticed is that Oswald's face looked mask-like. It almost looks like he's holding up a, I don't know, like there's a spectrum of the opera mask over his face or something. And if you look at the junction of his forehead and his hairline, it's unusually straight. There's sort of like a straight line there. And then above it, there's a weird, I mean, obviously his hairline is irregular, but there's just sort of a very weird, extraficion there between the two straights. It's too straight. There's forehead is too straight. And out of that, but the hair is much thicker and standing up the way Oswald, his hair. Ralph, Ralph, Ralph. I'm a little bothered, you didn't respond more to Larry's point about the height of Lavelle because it's pretty obvious that this guy bending over is not Lavelle. He's not even the right height. So I know that Lavelle being so tall, but if that's the case, then that's the case. In any case, regardless, I would say that there's just I have no doubt at all that that guy was not Lavelle. But I confirmed it in another way, you guys. For example, there is the original footage in which it is Lavelle getting out. And he does certain things with his hands, places them, he places his hand on the back of the ambulance attendant whose name was Harold Wolf. And there's similar, but yet they're different. The actual place we put his hand as using this. Ralph, this thing with this thing with the clutch fish is so skeleton. This is so artificial. Who can really control it? What are they trying to imply this is after rigor has already set in, which would be way too early. Gregor doesn't sit into your dead. This is very peculiar here. I'm glad that you brought that up. I'll tell you why because we have the images of Oswald when he was placed into the ambulance. Keep in mind that everybody said he was completely unconscious and completely immobile in the jail office and when they loaded him on the ambulance. Now his hand at the time was down in one of the images, his arm, his looks like it's over the area that he was shot. But it certainly wasn't raised and held over as you see here. So he wasn't put into the ambulance like this and he wasn't. How can he wind up like this? He could not have done it himself. Not if he was caught. He's a winner first. Before we go further, I want to call in Larry who's done more study of the face of the Oswald and the rest of us combined. Larry, what's your opinion about this? Well, obviously the hairline, you know, we'd have to rotate it in a vertical manner to see, you know, a map see if it matches the hairline. But just from, you know, just my first take on that is that obviously, you know, that seems like the hairline is not is not right. Not natural. Doesn't look photographically right. Okay. I go to the next image. You know, it looks like to me like they're making them look like he's a communist going out and holding it. Yeah, very good. That's very good. I think that's not to do it. I think that there are several images of Oswald with a fist that they like the brand is right. Yeah, the communist frankly, frankly, go back to that image. Gary, you're moving. Yeah, that could even be Photoshop. It seems to me that. Well, in the words Photoshop. In fact, if this is a recent vintage, it may actually be Photoshop. Yeah, that arm doesn't look right. Look at the culture of the texture. Larry, Larry, would you agree that that arm with a fist may be Photoshopped in? Well, you know, like somebody is there, you know, it's some kind of figure there in front of his elbow. Okay. So it's, you know, for me, it's hard to say, you know, but. Was the upper arm is too short. I'll tell you right now the upper arm is too short. That's been added to the photograph. Right. But was Oswald wearing a sweater all the way up to his wrist? I get a slow sleep sweater. Yeah, they put that so you couldn't see where he was shot. So you can when they came into a dark sweater. So when he was shot, you can tell where the blood was. You guys go to the next year. Okay. Okay. I see. I see there's some kind of an officer there in the foreground. Okay. That's a Fedora hat. Now I see. I see. There's a, there's a, this back of the neck of an officer somebody there in front. That's in the foreground. Okay. As you can see. I remember the head is minuscule. That's too small ahead. Whatever the hell is that. Yeah. No, but I was a little confused because I didn't I couldn't make out the Fedora that's right there that the hat. Now, you know, this guy is here. Don't you? That's LC graves. Okay. And keep in mind that as Lavel and Dority were getting out of the ambulance that he walked by from another direction. Lavel did not ride in the ambulance. Lavel is the one driving the lead car, the police car, the squad car that preceded the ambulance as it arrived. So why would they be identifying him as coming out of the ambulance? He lied about it to the warrant commission. He said he wrote in the ambulance. He. He, he. Lavel himself. I'm not talking about Lavel. I'm talking about graves. Graves line. Graves said he wrote in the ambulance. Graves that Lavel wrote in the ambulance. No. Graves said he himself wrote in the ambulance. Graves said Graves wrote in the ambulance. He did not. He drove that squad car that preceded the ambulance. Which. Lavel ended with him. No, no, no, it was in the ambulance. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. We did a show about that one time. We got Lavel got into the ambulance. We saw that at the garage and then Lavel got out of the ambulance. We saw that at the hospital. So Lavel was definitely in the ambulance. But Graves was not. Graves drove a car, but he did not want to get. But but but Ralph, you have pointed out that the person identified as Lavel getting out of the ambulance was not Lavel. We all agree. It was not Lavel. So where is Lavel getting out of the ambulance? Well, I'll tell you where in the original footage. Not the one I just showed you, but the original footage. You do see the real Lavel getting out of the ambulance. But not in this one that even. Well, what what happened to the real footage? They didn't want to use it because they didn't want to show this. This would have been part of it. Well, well, you don't have the real footage. I have it. Yeah, well, I can show you. I can get it right now. I can get it right now. I can even pause. I'm going to pause us. resume you're on. All right, we'd like to welcome Amy Joyce's show. She just joined us and we've had Larry join us. So we've got a full crew with Dr. Fetcher, Ralphson K and I'm Gary King. We know ahead and play a video right now. That's the grades. That's our man's grades. He's driving that. Please call my car. That claim to be driving that. Just so you know. I don't think it could be him. Who who who claim to be driving it? He's our back. But he said he drove Fritz and a couple others and Fritz didn't write to later. So he had to be lying. Absolutely. That was grace. What happened here? Amy go ahead and talk about it. As this is as well to the hospital in the o'Neill ambulance and there's a new film that came out on. I think it was NBC. I think it was a little bit of. As well dog with you know the rest of the gang, but I noticed it wasn't Jim LeVell who climbed in the back. At the police department, she should have been coming out in a zester suit right here at the hospital, but it's somebody else who's got. Now, Amy, this is not the one you found. This is the old one. This is the one that preceded it. This is the one. We want to see the original one. Gary, can you go ahead and have it played? There's a few of those. It jumped ahead Larry. I mean, Gary, you got to bring it back and jump way ahead. This is we're in halfway. Yeah, it was playing while we were talking. We just couldn't. When we started over. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, let's just start it over. Okay. Why is it doing this? Playing fine as far as I can tell. No, no, no, we can't see it. I mean, it's just jumping and freezing. Try it again. I hit pause, Dr. Fetcher. Oh, well. I want to point out that even though there are obviously a lot of filmers there, this is the only footage of the Oswald arrival that I that was ever made public. I know it. What's closely now? Here's the real avail. That's him. You see how much bigger he is than the other guy. He's got his hat on. And he's got his hat on. Boy, that was quick. Now, there's a lot more analysis I did of this. But I tell you what I mean at this point, let's watch the other one while this is fresh. Well, you can say more about it, bro. All right. Okay. We don't want to come back. But you know what I have to say this. You know what I'm seeing right now? It's what you see with this fake news. You're seeing a bunch of stuff, but you're not really seeing anything. Yeah, good. Even the darkness in the hall here, why should it be dark? Go ahead. Just play the rest of it. That's Fritz. Fritz being men in. That was Fritz. That's another of his detectives. Yeah. Okay. Now, stop this a second, you guys. I want to point something out. You know, of course, that this is the driver. Michael, what's his last name, Amy? Harden. Harden, right, harden. And it's important to realize that he didn't work for the hospital. He worked for the O'Neill funeral. Yeah. And so this was their stretcher. And that means that the provisioning of the stretcher would have been their department, not the hospital. But in a minute, even though he's at Parkland Hospital, you're going to see him remove the sheet from the stretcher. And replace it with the first sheet. But how could that happen if he's at the hospital? And he's it's not their stretcher. They wouldn't be providing him with sheets. And the whole thing is just an act. You'll see it in a second. Go ahead. Well, it sounds like they're trying to get rid of evidence, you know, from maybe boss while bleeding on the sheet or whatever they want to do. But he knows. So what's he he's going to take the sheet off? Okay, he's at the hospital here. No blood. And now he's putting a new sheet on the where would he have gotten it? And what would he even bother to do that? Yeah, right. It's just ridiculous. It is. All right. Now this next section is one that I've been devoting a lot of my time to and involve. Stop it a second. Just a second. Okay. And this is my second bargain read and she's got the baby. Huge hands. And supposedly. Rachel arriving at the parkland hospital. To basically view the bot in the dead body of their beloved league. Okay. And the moment you're going to see Marina get out of the car. And you will see you won't see her at first, but the bait. The little girl June who was exactly one year and nine months old. Is also getting out of the car. You'll see that Marina's got some whole bunch of stuff in her hand. And you wonder why she would have to carry so much stuff to go. You are a dead house in his body. And it looks to me and you can decide yourself whether you agree. It looks to me like the secret service agent is holding. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to get out of the car. Maybe well, June's hand, but take a look. What time was lead for announced a death? He was in his pronounce that a one oh six p.m. One oh six. One oh six. So this was shortly after that probably about one 30. Okay. So that there's Marina. She's got her hands full like it's Christmas. Okay. Now I want you to stop in a second. Stop it. I remember that when she was getting out of the car, she had a large purse. And she had a bunch of bags and she was holding them all in her right hand. And it looked to me like the secret service agent was holding the hand of this one year nine month year old. Now she's holding the little girl's hand and all that stuff in her hand, including her purse. She had to give to somebody, but who would she give it to? Did she give it to one of these secret service agents? Now he's holding it. And if that's the case, why did she bring it in the first place? So this is very weird in itself. But let me ask you to consider this. If you were going to visit the dead mangled group bloody, mutilated body of your loved one, the father of this little girl, would you bring her? When you bring a one year nine month old, the gays that are dead father, I don't know if those people would do that. Well, it may have been she didn't have anyone she could trust to lead the margarit wanted to come with her. So, you know, that in of itself, I don't think they were going to bring the baby into the room to view the body. What is it? I want you to notice something before we go any further. I want you to notice that her hair is falling down over her eyes, over her face, and that her hair is completely covering her ear. Do you see that? Yeah. Okay, keep going. Are we sure this is marina? Well, I don't know. I will. You mean behind behind the cop and this be another woven who's assisting them? Well, you'll see in a second now. I want you to be in her because that was the only option. You're going to see who you're going to see her again as she's leaving. All right, hold on, stop. All right. Now, this is a very blurry image and they probably made a blurry on purpose. But the idea here is that little June fell asleep, that gazing at the dead body of her father just knocked her out to the board. She fell asleep. So, marina's catching carrying her. But what I want you to notice, and even though it's very blurry here, and maybe if you start and stop it, we can get a clear view, is that her hair is completely pulled back. It's tightly pulled back. Her ear is showing. Maybe she rearranged it for the viewing. Yeah, you can see her ear clearly for a second. Her ear is clearly showing. And it's hard for me to believe that she would alter her hair. I really think about one's hair when viewing the dead body of a loved one. What do you think about this, Amy? It's in a ponytail. I just got it. You don't even know if this is when they, you know, they could have put clips together from different um, right. I mean, I think that's probably what when it is. But another thing is, look at the size of this kid. This, this child is bigger than the one that was she was holding before. That's a pretty big kid there. Yeah, it is. We're talking about a child who is a child. That's not a year and a half old child. That's a three year old child. That's like a three year old child. What's larger? No, listen, I have one more image to show you. Just wait for me a second. Yeah, you're right. Her getting out of the car, we're out of shopping bags. She looked like going green acres, you know, Ava, go ahead. Yeah, she looked like she should have been. That's how she was coming out. All the shovel and distraught. Yeah, but now she's looking up and. Yeah. Larry, Larry, Larry, where do you thoughts about this? Well, regarding the children, obviously, you know, we're going to brought the children in if you leave. If I leave, you know, they're like you said, they're just there because. We probably didn't have a lot of people. Now, I agree that this is probably a more safe of different clips. You know, so, you know, I'm just saying different babies. Well, the baby, yeah, yeah. This is a huge child here compared to both. She's wearing also one of these hooded jackets. Something like that. So continue on. We'll see what happens. Okay. Always take a win, wait, wait a second. Here's another thing I noticed and I said this to Ralph. She's Margarita's 54. Now, I'm 48. Does she look 54 or 74? Yeah, right. Yeah, she definitely was older. I know. So now I have two other images I want to upload. So how do I do that? Do I do it in chat also? What was that Lee in the six four window? We just saw it. So, uh, put it all together. So how do I how do I how do I send you two other images? Do I do it by email? Gary? Oh, you mean the images themselves? I have two other images. I want to send Gary. Don't you want to play out the rest of this tape? And then what? That looks like the guy on the four floor. I think are the fifth floor of the school book depository. That's slightly ridiculous. Go ahead. Okay. So we don't want to play the YouTube video. Go ahead and let this play out. Gary. Just just play out the rest of this. Yeah, it's got 15 seconds. That's all there is to it. That's it. That's basically what the world is. Oxygen tank. Yep. Okay. Surround sir. Hi, it looks like. I was pretty. I tried to play the other video. Try to. Go on. So this is an alternate film. You know, you hit that button there. It makes it large. It makes it full screen. Can you try that? Yeah. Try pausing it here. Oh, you just missed it. That's supposed to be a little bell. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Check out his hair. No, the bell had a shaved head. Okay. I'm glad I can tell the pictures. I didn't bring any but his head was shaved. So we want to stop. Okay. What just when he starts to get out. Now you can also see him places hands right at the top center of his head. Yeah. And the real level didn't do that. He's wearing boots here with the little Bell. Well, you know, now this hairline does look more like that guy. I mean, it's blocked by the chin here. But before. Go back, Harry. Let's play. Look how skinny his legs was. No, that wasn't that skinny. I have some pictures. I could just shoot you if you were out of this. I got him right there. That's it. That's supposed to be gentle of out. Yeah. That's the same hairline as in the other. Okay. Keep going. That's the only. Now, you see his face in this clip or in any any clip of Lebel getting out of the ambulance. So we don't know if it's him at all ever. All right. Go. Yeah, go. Go back to a second. If you would go back a second. I want you to notice that you're seeing a guy shooting down on Oswald. He's got a camera. And it's like he's directly above him and he's shooting down. But it's just though this photographer was only interested in taking pictures of other scenarios. You see this guy here? He's holding a weird camera here. And he's supposedly shooting images of Oswald on the. On the stretcher. But why would this photographer, the one who's. Because he wasn't looking at it. Was he shot? He was. He had to be more interested in shooting this guy. Shooting Oswald and shooting, trying to capture Oswald himself. That's like being a surveyor of the witnesses and Dealey pauses the shooting was going on. You know, many agents were observing the spectators not the shooting. Right. That name. What he's doing that he's keeping track of who was actually was just a media photographer it seems he would have been all bent on getting an image of Oswald. ETL Boeing to get it as close as as it could. I think why do you want this guy? Yeah. They can picture something. Right. You know, I just want to say from my point of view, all those press got their way too quick. There are loads of people in press or photographers. Good evening. Good. That's a good point. When you think about it, you have a seven minutes later. Not even yet, but we're talking about erasing ambulance. How could these other people get from wherever they were? To be figured out the timeline, how long it took from the departure at the PD to get into the hospital. Well, that's another controversial thing. I mean, I wouldn't trust anything that they said. What's your calculation? Well, the only thing I can go by is what the doctor said. And what they said is that they didn't get Oswald and start working on him until about according to 12. So Amy, do you want, can you put those images up on your screen and hit screen? Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob. I need to know what's the time from the most reliable witness as we know the departure, right? We can know for sure when it left the Dallas police department because we see it coming out. Right. And suppose you take the doctor as the estimate, what is the distance? How much time lapsed in between? And how much time would it take if you drove directly to the hospital? Oh, Jim, also, listen, forget that they took him back inside after he got shot. They were in, quote, unquote, in shot, quote, they took him inside and then they brought him back out. Yeah, they popped on his heart. You mean they even redid the entry into the ambulance? Well, I know, I know, and Jim Morris has talked about this before that they took him inside into, back into that little office there. And then they brought him out to the ambulance. So there's a sort of, right. And they had a part time doctor, like an intern, who pumped his heart, which was the wrong thing to do with Jim Morris said about it. Well, you have internal injuries. You don't do that. Well, because it increases internal bleeding. So you don't do that. Speaking of that, can we go back to the images I brought in the house? Yes, we can. Okay, let's just go through that because I do have some, and then I have a couple other images that I want to just, do we want me to pause again? Very well, you said Gary, why you said it up? That's okay, we'll be there in one second, I think. Famous last words. Yeah, go ahead and get the, I'm not going to say it. Hold on. Famous last word. Y'all can see my screen? Nope. Okay. I lost my zoom. All right, go to the next image we talked about this one. All right, I want to say something about this image. I want you to notice that Oswald's supposedly got his right arm going right over his chest, and his hand is literally right over the area where he was supposedly shot, right? Well, first of all, medically it's wrong to do that because when a person has an abdominal gunshot wound it means they're bleeding internally and you don't want to put any weight on the abdomen that would be... No pressure, yeah. You make the bleeding worse. So you would think policemen would know that. Your arms should be down by a sigh. Exactly. Now I want you to know, I want you to... Your way down is arm hanging off on the other side, either, Ralph, that's ridiculous. Of course. ...and Greg is duckles over the concrete. I want you to compare the size of his right hand to the size of his left hand, and I want you to compare the skin coloring of his right hand, which is very, very pale to the skin coloring of his left hand, which looks fairly normal. Why would there be such a difference? I mean, that hand looks huge compared to his left hand. I don't know, the left hand left arm looks odd to me. All right. But anyway, here I was. I was like only three fingers. Well, that's a perspective. That's a perspective. Yeah. There's the thing. If you look at the color change between his... the end of his sweater to where it gets to his hand, it's weirdly jeal... It's weirdly rectangular. I mean, why does it look so non-photographic? That doesn't have the normal... I agree with you. That's a look like... Come on. Come on. So anyway, I think this is more photoshopping. Amy, Amy. Yeah. Your thoughts? Well, this is what he's coming through. This is still at the police start. Yes, this is the loading ambulance here. Yeah, and it's an eye. It's an eye. It's an eye. It's an eye. Do you find any anomalies in this photograph? His head... I didn't notice much with eyeswild, but when they did the filming of it, there's anomalies with the people that are standing around, like Patrick Dean and some of the others with extra fingers and things like that. So I don't know if they were just manipulating the whole thing or what. And also about following. He's black and he's dark and dark. Well, let me point this out to you that... I mean, it is my conviction that this is an artificial image that his hand was not like that. Now, for some reason, they do not want us to see the area that was shot. Now, you see this big rectangular walker. It looks like... To me, it looks like a washcloth or a towel. I don't even know what that's supposed to be. I don't know that they put anything over him. If his sweater was black... I don't have any explanation. He looks like a cartoon. Larry, Larry, what is your take? Look right here. The obvious observation here is a lack of blood. A lack of any blood. You have that type of an injury. So that type of trauma. You're going to see... Why wouldn't there be blood? There is the blood. Well, when I... This was drawn in. Blood. Yeah, it does look through. It looks cartoonish. That's how I... Yes, it does. It's especially this right here. All right, but anyway, let's assume, no. Let's just assume for the time being, because we have nothing else to work with, that this is how he was when they put him in the ambulance. Well, if that's the case, then in the condition that he was in, which was getting worse by the second, how could he wind up with his arm like up like this? Sure. It's been... I agree. Well, that's the way they are. I go to the next image. It would have to be propped up, but it would have to be... This is an example of what I think is a phony image. I don't think there's anything real about it at all. To my mind, it's ridiculous that hardened would be pushing the stretcher but applying force to Oswald's arm. He's got his hand here around Oswald's forearm is if he's pushing the stretcher... This is somehow to substantiate the clenched fist. This is... So what is he supposed to be doing holding Oswald's arm up? But obviously he would grip the stretcher to push it. He wouldn't hold Oswald's arm. So is this just a staged photo? Now they're going toward us. They're going... Yeah, they're going toward us. This guy's going backwards. Harden is going forward. So what is the point of Dirty holding Oswald's hand? Is he trying to put it inside the railing? The lay it down flat? Is he just... I think it's just supposed to be moral support that he's just clutching his hand. It looks like he didn't want it to drag on the ground. Well... But how could he possibly keep up? How could he possibly mechanically... He'd have to walk through Lavel and Lavel doesn't look like he's going anywhere. So this is a very weird thing. And I think it's a staged photo. It is very odd. Larry, Larry, I want to also point something out. And you can just think about it. That as I look at this man here on the stretcher, he looks very lanky to me. He looks like he's got very, very long legs. And I would estimate his standing height to be at least six feet. Whereas Oswald was only five-nine. He just looks too tall. I'd say five-ten, but anyway, he looks taller. Yeah, Larry. Oh, look tall. And he doesn't look like a short guy. Larry. Well, isn't that book out holding his left hand there? No, no, that's that book out. That is Dirty. That is Dirty. He was in the back of the ambulance with Lavel. The right over Lavel's shoulder, that's Dirty. Yes, that's Dirty. And then you have Lavel in the Easter Seuth. And then you've got next to him, Graves. Those are the detectives. Grave with multicolored tie. Well, I sure looks look like book out. Looks like book out. He's not like that tone, too. Well, a lot of people thought it was, but no, that is Dirty. All right, go to the next one. All right, so what I put together here was a collage now showing the varying positions of Oswald. We've got this one in which his hand on the left, which his hand is supposedly resting right on top of the wound, which is medically inexcusable. Now we've got the one in the center where he's got his hand raised like this above his head. And then we have this one in which Dirty is clasping his hands. So all these different changes in Oswald's hand, but at a time when he was incapable of doing anything, he's supposedly. So that's Dirty in both the left and the right photographs, right? No, that is Dirty in this photograph. He's looked like the same person in the left and the right photographs in the middle, in the middle, in the middle. Oh, in the middle. Yeah, that's the same guy. Look at the heroine. Look at that. That's got to be the same guy. Oh, you mean the same guy is on the stretcher you mean? Oh, no. Dirty in this photograph. Oh, you mean Dirty in the right? He's the same guy. Say, get Amy. The ambulance driver is Mike Hart and he's the same guy. He's on the far left photo. That's like the whole far right. In the middle. He's in the far left and the middle. And he's in the right hand side. He's the same guy. He's on the far left photo. That's like the whole far right. In the middle. He's in the far left and the middle. And he's in the right hand side. Slightly to the left, right? He's in the far left and the center of both of the photo. And about him? Yeah. Yeah, that's Mike Hart. Yeah, that's Mike Hart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was my point. Same guy. Oh, that was your point. Oh, no, no, no. I'd go to the next one. Yeah, I don't recognize anything in this picture at all. Oh, well, this is, if you look closely, this is Oswald. He's lying on the stretcher. It's going horizontal. And it looked real close. He's got his arm. You can see his hand. Okay, I see it down. I see it. All right, go to the next image. All right. So anyway, I brought this just again to show that for some reason, Hart and got the idea of removing the sheet from the stretcher at the hospital, even though it was not a hospital stretcher, he did not work for the amoeu. He was not employed by them. And he would not have been, you know, you might have seen it. You might say, reprovisiting the stretcher. That's very damn peculiar that he would change the sheet at that point. And on a place, right, go ahead. And you know, another thing I like to point out is that this was 1963. There were no cell phones. So it's not as though he could have gotten any communication. You better change the sheet. Right. Yeah. Why would he get such a communication anyway? Right. All right, go to the next one. All right, and here he is now. He's putting a fresh sheet on the bed at Parkland Hospital. And I'll face something else. I'm very disturbed that there's so many children around him. I mean, this is the hospital. This is Oswald's arrival. You can understand reporters being there, but how did so many children? Yes. It's like a clinic. They were on a field trip. Yeah. It looks like a school. Yeah. It's all photo-wapping. It's all staging. Who knows? And Amy's photo found out that both hardened and wolf died precipitol, untimely deaths in the 1970s. Isn't that right, Amy? Yeah. I think they were both 38 years old and hard to call people with that. Yes, C.A. might have called them as witnesses. Harden died supposedly of a heart attack. And we know how many people died of heart attacks in the day of the 1970s. One of them killed himself and then the other. Oh, he killed them. Wow. Isn't that convenient? Very. Well, the heart attack and the suicide, they're both very convenient. So, you ran in a net wall. It's almost like they took stock photos and put a story together. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Oh, I just want to say one more thing about my cardin. My time. Call me. She's I wish I wouldn't have known you're going to do this route because I want to. My cardin looks exactly like a guy named Harold Wolf. And Harold Wolf is the name of the assistant. We don't see him here. Yeah. I think there was a Harold Wolf that he is identical to who worked as a psychiatrist for MK Ultra. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. Well, listen to you. That's pretty damn interesting. There's another very important thing I want to point out a little about Wolf. Is that when you in that footage that we saw the old one, you may even be you might say the old tried and true one. You see Wolf opening the aback of the ambulance and you see you see him pulling the stretch around and you see him start pushing us wall toward the hospital. But after that, you don't see him anymore. You see other people pushing the stretcher and you don't see him come out with hard. Now, how come hard is alone here? How come Wolf isn't with him? How is it that now it's as though Hardin was doing this all by himself. What happened to Wolf? So what I'm thinking is that this is some type of a recreation that they did. And they can't for the kids too. They couldn't they couldn't get Wolf or maybe he was unwilling to do it. Maybe he was unavailable. Maybe it was at a town who knows what he wasn't around. They couldn't use him so they get it without him. And that's why we don't see Wolf. This is some type of recreation. We may be seeing early incarnations of crisis actors. Right. Exactly. That's it. Exactly. I go ahead. Believeable. All right. So this is on Marina now. She's getting out of the car. She's got her purse. It's a big purse. She's got some other bags. Looks like a laundry or shopping bag for God. Yeah. I mean, why she would have to carry all that in to view. This came from JC Penney's. And from Times Square. And I'm going to take a look at the kids. I'm going to take a look at the kids. Yeah. We don't see a June here, but June is standing in front of this secret service agent. And it looks as though he is going to take the hand of the little girl. And I find that strange to I mean little kids. They've got to know you pretty well before they want to hold your hand. And the idea that after this much time that he's already holding hands with a little girl seems very strange to. She's going to show her hair is completely down. It's over her eyes. It's over her nose. Yeah. It's covering her hair. But they now looks like she does actually still have that ponytail like it. Just got a little disheveled. I would say maybe just straighten it up. Oh, wait. Here's the thing. She's got a ponytail in both pictures. But this ponytail is much lower. Yeah. Yes, yes, it is lower. It is lower. All right, go ahead. All right. So this is the other one. The ponytail is higher. But the girl is obviously older than one year and three months. Yeah, yeah, it almost looks like a dummy actually. It almost looks like a dummy. And obviously this is definitely a different. It might not even be Marina, Dan. It might not even be Marina. It may be a crisis actor from another occasion. And you're right. That isn't dummy. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. You know, after we've seen so many dummies in the last few months, Toronto and all that. That's right. Let's go ahead. Just amazing comparison. The hair is down. Here it's pulled. The eyebrows don't even look right. Not the same woman. The nose doesn't look right. The ponytail. It's a good picture. Here it's a real ponytail. The forehead is too extreme to the right. It has an arch in it. It's very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very attractive. I think that the observation of the little girl, she's totally limp. You know, I don't know. I'd say this one on the right is not Marina. It's not. This is not an attractive woman right here. I think that Marina was an attractive woman and that woman is not. Yeah. My goodness. This one. Us guys are good at this. I got it. You know, I'll tell you what you want. These other two images. Whoops. Did I bring it twice? I go to the next one. That's all of my thing. All right. Now, what's the best way for me to, I got one that's going to blow your mind. How do I send you an image, Gary? By email or email? We're on. All right. Okay. This is another image of Marina as she's departing a Portland hospital after seeing the body. I want you to notice the differences. Now that jacket that she was wearing is in her hand. See what? It doesn't have it on. She's in the same basic place. She got an extra leg. No, that's June. That's the baby. Look at the size of this child. This child has gone on long pants. Some kind of jeans. She's got on sneakers, white socks. And that is obviously not a one year and nine months year old. In fact, I would say that just from the look of that considering that's probably going to be a five year old or a six year old. This is very, very strange, very strange. Now, who isn't she just carrying her and the baby passed out? Yeah. Well, that's it. We're talking about the same situation. Hold on a second. Let me send you the other one against me. I'm not interested at all. Hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Ami, did you find any shoes on the sand? I don't know. I don't know. Ami, what do you call those kind of pants? It's sort of like shorts, but they kind of go down in the knee. They're knee-high shorts. For slapped numbers. Right. the child is wearing definitely wearing long pants. Go back to the I'm not sure it's Nickers because they get shorted up, you know, when she's getting get shorted up that much. We're talking about up to the knee and they wouldn't possibly get shorted up that much. I like your color shoes. Yeah, I don't have that image. I got rid of it. What we want, we want to look at all these images again. Okay, hold on. I got it right here. Okay, go ahead. I want you to see that little child that's wearing basically dungery, some type of black gene. It's definitely long pants. We're still recording here. Okay. I know. Is it on it's in here, right? No, no, no, it's not in there. It's more of the one. It wasn't the other. Okay. So we're comparing these two images, both of them purportedly of marine believing Parkland Hospital after viewing Lee's body. And I want you to just count the number of incongruities. In one of them, she's wearing her jacket and the other she hasn't folded over her arm. Yeah. In one, the child is fast asleep in her arms and the other, the child is walking next to her. Right. In one of the child is wearing long pants like black or dark dungaries. And in the other, the child is wearing some kind of a nicker in which the pants are almost like diaper pants. It'll look at almost. And if it was actually long pants pulled up, it would be much more voluminous in an accordion like way at the top of the of the cuffier. And it's not. So it's wearing the same skirt. So you can use the difference in the contrast and the skirt to see how much it might work as a gene. That's right. But if you can move this one over, I want you to know you'll see that. And this went on the right. You see this guy here? Yeah. Doesn't that appear to be the same guy? Yeah. All right. So he's the same. I was making doubles of a secret service agents. Then yeah, he looks a little fatter. He may be. I mean, but at this way, they definitely were aiming to make it look, you know, to be the, you know, to be the same guy. Larry, Larry, what do you think of this contrast here? Any any aspect? Well, the obviously the one on the left, the child is wearing tighter, fitting pants. Yes. And the color of the shoes are a much darker tone. Hold it up. Gary, move it over so we can see the other shoes and keep going, keep going. Notice, notice the tone of the shoes. Yeah. Color tones. You completely different. Okay. And the pants, the pants are wider, much, much wider. Yeah. Unless it's, well, so the one on the right that the pants are, they're, they're writing up on the legs. Okay. So it's hard to tell, but definitely you got different color tone. What about the different color of the pants? Obviously those are very dark and the other is white. Yeah. That's where I say use the dress, the skirt she's wearing to tell how much contrast there is in the light setting. Right. Right. Right. Right. But you know, here's the thing. What I have to wonder is this. What was their purpose in doing all this? I mean, why couldn't they just show us one real version of a marina leaving the hospital? What are we supposed to assume that maybe marina was never brought to the hospital? I just don't know what they're pulled. Why didn't you put them put down the baby and take off her coat? I mean, for crying out loud. I mean, for one thing, how do you get a divergence as big as this? Where in one case, she's got the coat in her hand. Yeah. Yeah. As hand in her hand, the other one she's wearing the coat, holding the child. I mean, it's just a good point, Ralph. We got a picture of what the world's going on here. I don't know. Like I said, I don't even know what they were. Amy, Amy, do you have any idea why there would be these differences? I think it'd be fake that they're trying to say, okay, here she is, but that she didn't really go there. She didn't go there at the time. They're trying to say she did. So he was going in. There was a video of her going into that room and Margarita was there. And then the reporter, Sasa was there too, but Sasa was over at the police department. All right. He was just that we had just seen him in the video where Oswald was supposed to be shocked. Yeah. And how did he get the, he didn't have an ambulance and he didn't have a police car. So how did he get there so fast? Gary, Gary, Larry, Larry, what do you think is going on here? Yeah, another thing, if you notice, the one on the left, her skirt, obviously that pattern. And when you look at the right, when on the right, the skirt seems to be much, much higher. Probably almost up to her breasts. Okay. So that's that's true. You know, it seems I'm actually high because you know, women, it seems more normal on the left as far as how high the skirt is. Right. Right. You know, there's something wrong with that. Listen, I want to listen to you guys. I want to leave you with this because I have to go, but I want to leave you with this. I don't think we have ever been shown a real image of Oswald at Parkland Hospital at all. Ever. I don't think we ever saw him. They do not want us to see him. I mean, however, he looked, I think it must have been awful. He must have looked white as a sheet. And I don't think they wanted to show vividly what had what they turned him into under police custody. So I think all of the images of him, well, is it, is it possible that they beat him to death between the hospital and the parkland and the hospital? Well, look, I don't, I do not fall to Parkland doctors. I mean, there's no doubt that somebody was brought to them when they worked on. I don't think that they're part of this. So I suspect that they really did get Oswald to him. But I think that they did not want to show us how bad Oswald looked because I think it would have created sympathy for him. I think people was saying, oh my God. Yeah. So instead of giving him a, um, yeah, just come in this thing again. Okay. Listen, you guys, I gotta go. I have guests. Okay, Ralph, we want Amy. We want to have Amy's thoughts about this before you depart. We're about to, we're about to conclude Amy. Amy, give us your thoughts. Well, at first I was thinking, um, you know, maybe, maybe he's, he's going the wrong way with this, but now I'm almost convinced. You know, I have to think about it some more, but I really don't think that one of the show us as well. And the reason is the people are different that come to the right to the hospital than the people that actually left in the ambulance. It's not just L. Okay. Graves was in a different car, even though he went into the ambulance. So something happened. And I'm trying to think what makes the most sense, either they stopped and they got there later, which would have been noticed. Or, um, is he right? Did they just not want us to see what as well look like? The condition he was in, the condition he was in. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the condition. He doesn't quite have all of them. But Larry, Larry, what are your thoughts at this point in time because we're obviously going to have to give this more thought. Well, again, based on the lack of blood, okay? At the city hall over there in the basement of city hall and how, you know, everybody reacted there and also, Ralph's work on the book out thing. And I believe that the actual assassination of Oswald happened in the ambulance. Okay. He wasn't dead yet because Charles Krenshaw was in attendance. And when Lyndon called him, spoke with him asking for a deathbed confession, he actually said he'd taken a turn for the better. And he felt he was going to pull through. No, I'm talking about the shot. I'm a close range inside the ambulance. Larry, Larry, Larry. Yeah. So I'm just explaining how we know that he was still alive at Parking because he's been there talking to Lyndon about it. No doubt whatsoever about Krenshaw's testimony. And Krenshaw received his phone call and Lyndon said, you know, we have a man there, you know, dressing. Yeah. Yeah. And he's got pretty nasty stuff. All right. We're looking at the micro managers right down to the last detail. All right. Look, before we go, folks, there was something we got away with us last week. And I want to go ahead and show that before we leave. It's just real quick. I don't think we actually realize who we were dealing with here. We were still upset with the guy from the history channel that we forgot that it was Glenn Beck. So I want everyone to hear Glenn Beck talk about Oswald being killed. I'm in the biggest lies in American history. Really kind of come here. There. This is this is literally where the seeds are planted. Right. And we all know once you plan to seed it down someone's mind, especially America's mind, it's almost impossible to uproot. Elzer is trying to explain why conspiracy theorists are ill-based and I take it Glenn Beck is on the other side. We can't hear you. We can't hear you. Just give him one second. He's not really big time. Go ahead. Make it clear. The conspiracy, the lies that we're talking about are not that Oswald didn't do it. He did it. Of course he did. Okay. You heard it. Let him let him let him say more. Okay. You want me to play the clip? No, the rest of it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let me get a little more volume real quick. Okay. See the lies that we're talking about are not that Oswald didn't do it. He did it. Of course he did. But where where history has been changed is a is motivation. We knew I mean, I have the paper the very next day Dallas, Florida news communist. He was communist, of course. And let's just put blame where it really does belong. I name Jack Ruby, right? If Jack Ruby and unless there are questions to be asked, right? What is Oswald doing for two years in Russia that nobody knows about? Two years on account for what is how does Jack Ruby get past the entire police station? Full of policemen who at that moment should be guarding the sky like his the ultimate person you know, to be protected on the earth. And in that moment, Jack Ruby robbed history of the truth because the only man who knows what's going on is Lee Harvey Oswald. And if today someone came forward and said, you know what, Glenn? I did it. I'm the one who helped Oswald. Here's the proof I have no one believe him. Right? If he said, here's the video I have no believe him and immediately all of Oswald's story began to change by the media. And it began to change because there was a race to tell the story. One of the first books that comes out says JFK said, oh my gosh, I've been shot. And now he. I can't do with these guys too much more. Oh, leave it on. Leave it on. Okay. One says, oh my gosh, if he's spoked, then he must have been shot by someone else because this throat was out. So they must have another shooter makes logical sense except for the fact that when you look at Jackie Kennedy, the other secret service person in the car, governor calmly. You know what they all said? He said nothing. He said nothing. He said nothing. He said nothing. There's a guy also who's here who's photographed with an umbrella. Okay. And people go, oh my gosh, he opened the umbrella. That was a signal. It's a signal to us. Well, he knew what to do. It's all a big plan. You know what? You're going to love this because you know, the fellow lover of history. What he was doing was protesting Neville Chamberlain. He was basically saying Neville Chamberlain was carrying umbrella. He was a peaser. He was protesting JFK saying you're an appeaser JFK. One of the truest problems that we have when we look at all of this and the reason that it gets so confusing for America is when the Warren Commission first examined everything. The Kennedy family demanded utter secrecy. The Kennedy family said, do not show the autopsy photos. Do not show the autopsy results. Do not show the photos of all our fallen family member with his head blown off. The problem is, as American never got to see, he was hit from the back of the head. There's nothing in the front of the head. But as a result of that, as a result of that secrecy, the Kennedy family, I mean, sadly, did harm that is hard to undo. The other shooter was there. That's what they say. That's what they say. And that second window down is where Oswald was. Yeah. So that's a six floor. This is it. This is ground zero six floor the book depository. Oswald leans out of there, takes that shot. Now to say that's impossible. Let's look again in our military military sniper start training at 200 yards, 300 yards, 500 yards away. The distance from that window to that X at the furthest points. The second X is where the second shot is is 88 yards. It's an easy shot. I can make it easy shot. That's right. Easy shot. This is the problem to me with all of our stones. Okay. All of our stone. And again, you can love. Look to you can love. It's whatever whatever. Whatever it is. It did a great to serve a country when he made it. And intention absolutely 100% intentionally. He says in the movie that no one's been able to recreate the shots that Oswald made. And logic dictates if no one in history has been able to recreate that shot. It must have been a second shooter at the grass and over right there. Except for one problem. That shot's been recreated over and over and over again. The CBS alone had 11 different sharp shooters make that shot. The shots been made over and over again 88 yards like is an easy shot. You can make the shot right. It's an easy shot. But again for Oliver Stone. He doesn't want people to hear that truth. So interestingly when I when we were doing this book. I really wanted to figure out of course I got to deliver who killed J. Okay. It's a big question right? That's the one. It's a great conspiracy of all 50 years have been asked in this question. What's interesting is when you look at the 50 years of answers. So in the 1960s, you know, we thought kill J. Okay. We said it was the communist. We said it was the Russians. It was the Cubans. It was our great enemy at the island. Cold more. We also said it was the establishment. It was a 60s. This stage for the establishment. It was rich Texas millionaires. You did it. They're the ones who did it. If you look historically in the 70s, though, a time of watergate and Vietnam. You know, kill JFK was our own government CIA did it. And now if you look in the 80s, the height of the Godfather movies and give away to Scarface who killed JFK. It was a mob with a mafia. So decade by decade, if you want to know who killed JFK, it's whoever America is most afraid of at that moment in time. Is the Kennedy assassination. An archetype for other assassinations or is he stand alone? To me, the legacy of JFK assassination is simply this. Is he's the president who took so many people and Americans all around to heights of hope. And in his death, he reveals our greatest fears. But he is an architect. Every conspiracy throughout history tells us something about our own fears. JFK, like any conspiracy, what it really is again today is a giant mirror that we hold up our own psyche. And to me, that's the answer. We will always be, especially with JFK. We are the A-hats and this and this mystery is our great white whale. This guy's absolutely sensational as a disinformation artist. It's just absolutely brilliant. This is a very target of our research is destroying the kind of bullshit this guy's advocating here. Absolutely fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. The best sniper in the Marine Corps, Ghani Carlos, he could not replicate those shots. This guy claiming it was easy. Jesse flew me out to venture a county California with the right measurements to set it up for him with a better man liquor carcano. Exactly right measurements with stationary targets. Jesse's a much better marksman. He did three replication of three shots. He got one hit on one target once. I mean, I've telling you, the kind of bullshit we're getting here is unreal. But there's good numbers that with such a sophistication. Larry, were you impressed? I mean, this guy is the very target of all of our research. This guy is the ultimate smoothing over all the problems, making it look as though it's the American people doing subjective projection when we have objective evidence for every point we've ever made about this. And notice how red, how crimson red his ears are, his ears are very. Absolutely. I'm so glad you played the whole thing. Amy, any thought you'd like to add here before we part? Just one thing, Jeff Ruby didn't rob anybody of the answers. It was the agency of the government. They planned it. They robbed it. And I will didn't know what the answers were. And Jack, everybody didn't know that he didn't know what was going on. And Jeff was saying that this would never have happened. If someone else had been vice president, and they said, are you talking about the man at the top? And he affirmed that he was even said at one point that have had lied Stevenson, for example, had been vice president was never have happened. Jack was telling us he wasn't the priviness of answers. He was giving them to us. Larry, Amy, Gary, thanks. Gary, take us out. Yeah, don't forget it was Glenn back who on on our local channel proceeds a brushlin ball and then Sean Henry. So there's the enemy is clear to us the history channel and Glenn back for sure. All right, JFK 198. We'll see y'all next time. All right.