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I'll turn it over. Thank you. Thank you so much, Congressman. So we're here because we feel as though the American people have not heard from all the expertise that's out there all across our country. We do have some experts speaking, but there's lots and lots of experts across the country. So some of us decided to get together. We're America's frontline doctors. We're here only to help American patients and the American nation heal. We have a lot of information to share. Americans are riveted and captured by fear at the moment. We are not held down by the virus as much as we're being held down by the spiderweb of fear. That spider web is all around us and it's constricting us and it's draining the lifeblood of the American people, American society and American economy. This does not make sense. COVID-19 is a virus that exists in essentially two phases. There's the early phase disease and there's the late phase disease. In the early phase, either before you get the virus or early when you've gotten the virus, if you've gotten the virus, there's treatment. That's what we're here to tell you. We're going to talk about that this afternoon. You can find it on America's frontline doctors. There's many other sites that are streaming it live on Facebook. But we implore you to hear this because this message has been silenced. There are many thousands of physicians who have been silenced from telling the American people the good news about the situation that we can manage the virus carefully and intelligently, but we cannot live with the spiderweb of fear that's constricting our country. We're going to hear now from various physicians. We're going to talk to you about what the lockdown has done to young, to older, to businesses, to the economy and how we can get ourselves out of the cycle of fear. Dr. Hamilton. Thank you, Simone. Thank you all for being here today. I'm Dr. Bob Hamilton. I'm a pediatrician from Santa Monica, California. I've been in private practice there for 36 years. Today I have good news for you. The good news is that children as a general rule are taking this virus very, very well. If you were getting infected, those who are getting infected are being hospitalized in low numbers. Fortunately, the mortality rate of children is about 1-5th of 1%. Kids are tolerating the infection very frequently. They're asymptomatic. I also want to say that children are not the drivers of this pandemic. People are worried about initially that children are going to be the ones to push the infection along. The very opposite is happening. Kids are tolerating it very well. They're not passing it on to their parents. They're not passing it on to their teachers. Dr. Mark Woolhouse from Scotland, who is a pediatric infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist, said the following. He said there has not been one documented case of COVID being transferred from a student to a teacher in the world. I think that is important that all of us who are here today realize that our kids are not really the ones who are driving the infection. It is being driven by older individuals. Yes, we can send the kids back to school without fear. This is the big issue right now. As Congressman Norman alluded to, this is the important thing we need to do. We need to normalize the lives of our children. How do we do that? We do that by getting them back in the classroom. The good news is that they're not driving this infection at all. Yes, we can use security measures. Yes, we can be careful. I'm all for that. We all are. But I think the important thing is we need to not act out of fear. We need to act out of science. We need to do it. We need to get it done. Finally, the barrier, and I hate to say this, but the barrier to getting our kids back in school is not going to be the science. It's going to be the national unions, the teachers union, the national education association, other groups who are going to demand money. I think that is fine to give people money for PPE and different things in the classroom, but some of their demands are really ridiculous. They're talking about where I'm from in California, the UTLA, which is the United Teachers of Los Angeles, is demanding that we defund the police. What does that have to do with education? They're demanding that they stop or they shut all private charter schools, privately funded charter schools. These are the schools that are actually getting the kids educated. Clearly, there are going to be barriers. The barriers will not be science. There will not be barriers for the sake of the children. It's going to be for the sake of the adults, the teachers, and everybody else, and for the union. That's where we need to focus our efforts and fight back. Thank you all for being here. Let's get our kids back in school. I'm Dr. Celia Manuel. I'm a primary care physician in Houston, Texas. I actually went to medical school in West Africa, Nigeria, where I took care of malaria patients treated and would hydroxychloroquine and stuff like that. I'm actually used to these medications. I'm here because I have personally treated over 350 patients with COVID. Patients that have diabetes, patients that have high blood pressure, patients that have asthma, all people. I think my oldest patient is 92, 87-year-olds. The result has been the same. I put them on hydroxychloroquine, I put them on zinc, I put them on zitromax, and they are all well. For the past few months, I've taken care of over 350 patients with not lost one. Not a diabetic, not a somebody with high blood pressure, not somebody with asthma, not an old person. We've not lost one patient. On top of that, I've put myself, my staff, and many doctors that I know on hydroxychloroquine for prevention because by the very mechanism of action, it works early and as a prophylaxis. We see patients 10-15 COVID patients every day. We give them breathing treatments, we only wear surgical masks. None of us has gotten sick. It works. Right now, I came here to Washington, to say America, nobody needs to die. The study that made me study using hydroxychloroquine was a study that they did under the NIH in 2005, that say it works. Recently, I was doing some research about a patient that had hiccups, and I found that they even did a recent study in the NIH, which is our National Institute, that is the National NIH Institute of Health. They actually had a study and go look it up, type hiccups and COVID. You will see it. They treated a patient that had hiccups with hydroxychloroquine and it proved that COVID is a symptom of hiccups, it's a symptom of COVID. So if the NIH knows that treating the patient with hydroxychloroquine proves that hiccups is a symptom of COVID, then they definitely know that hydroxychloroquine works. I'm upset. One of the things that I see people that cannot breathe. I see parents walk in, I see diabetic sitting in my office knowing that this is a death sentence. And they can breathe. And I hug them and I tell them it's going to be okay, you're going to leave. And we treat them and they leave. None has died. So if some fake science, some person sponsored by all these fake farmer companies comes and say, oh, we've done studies and they found that it doesn't work, I can tell you categorically, it's fake science. I want to know who is sponsoring that study, I want to know who is behind it. Because there is no way I can treat 350 patients and counting and nobody is dead. And they all did better. And then you're going to tell me that you treated 20 people, 40 people and it didn't work. I'm a true testimony. So I came here to Washington, DC to tell America, nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure. It's called hydroxychloroquine zinc and zitromax. I know you want to talk about a mask. Hello. You don't need mask. There is a cure. I know they don't want to open schools. No, you don't need to be people to be locked down. There is prevention and there is a cure. And let me tell you something. All you fake doctors out there that tell me, oh, yeah, I want to double blinded studies. I just tell you, please tell me like a computer. Double blinded double blinded is you, I don't know what are your chips. I'm all functioning, but I'm a real doctor. I have radiologists. We have plastic surgeons. We have neurosurgeons like Sanjay Gupta saying, oh, yeah, it doesn't work. And it causes heart disease. Let me ask you, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, hear me. Have you ever seen a COVID patient? Have you ever treated anybody who had hydroxychloroquine and they died from heart disease? When you do, come and talk to me because I sit down in my clinic everyday and I see this patient walk in everyday. Scared to death. I see people driving two, three hours to my clinic because some ER doctor is scared of the tech sucks board or they are scared of something and they will not prescribe medication to these people. I tell all of you doctors that are sitting down and watching Americans die. You're like the good nuts, the good ones, the good Germans that watch Jews get killed and you do not speak up. They come after me. They threaten me. They threaten to, I mean, I've gotten all kinds of threats. Oh, they're going to report me to the boards. They're going to, I say, you know, I don't care. I'm not going to let Americans die. And if this is the mount, if this is the hill where I get nailed on, I will get nailed on it. I don't care. You can report me to the boards. You can kill me. You can do whatever. But I'm not going to let Americans die. And today I'm here to say that America, there is a cure for COVID. All this foolishness is not, does not need to happen. There is a cure for COVID. It's called hydroxychropping. It's called zinc. It's called Zitromax, and it is time for the grass roots to wake up Drawing friends. I say, no, we're not going to take this any longer, we're not going to die. Because let me tell you something when somebody is dead, they are dead. They're not coming back tomorrow to have an argument. They're not coming back tomorrow to discuss the double blind dead study and data. All of you doctors that are waiting for data. If six months down the line, you actually found that this data shows that this medication works. I mean, if you want to see this, this one is going to take a few minutes, so take a second. I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm off the screen. I'm there. I'm I'm I'm I'm you I'm I'm I'm I'm How about your patients that are died? You want a double blinded study? Where people are dying is unethical. So guys, we don't need to die. There is a cure for COVID. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Dr. Emanuel, also known as Warrior. Before I introduce the next guest, I just want to say that I wish all doctors that are listening to this bring that kind of passion to their patients and the study that Dr. Emanuel was referring to is in verology, which talks about a SARS viral epidemic that affects the lungs that came from China. And they didn't know what would work. The study showed that chloroquine would work. It sounds exactly like it could have been written three months ago. But in fact, that study in verology, which was published by the NIH, the National Institute of Health, when Dr. Anthony Fauci was the director. Again, the official publication of the NIH of virology, 15 years ago, showed that chloroquine, we use hydroxychloroquine. It's the same, little safer. Works. They proved this 15 years ago. When we got this novel coronavirus, which is not that novel, it's 78% similar to the prior version, the COV-1. Not surprisingly, it works. I'm not going to introduce our next speaker. Sorry, I forgot to say your name. That's all right. Dr. Dan Erickson. Dr. Gold asked me to talk about the lockdowns, how effective they were, and do they cause anything non-financial? They always talk about the financial. But you have to realize that lockdowns, we haven't taken a $21 trillion economy and locked it down. So when you lock it down, it causes public health issues. Our suicide hotlines are up 600%. Our spousal abuse, different areas of alcoholism are all on their rise. These are public health problems from a financial lockdown. So we have to be clear on that fact that there is, it's not like you just lock it down and have consequences to people's jobs. They also have consequences, health consequences at home. So we're talking about having a little more of a measured approach, a consistent approach. If we have another spike coming in cold and flu season, let's do something that's sustainable. What's sustainable? Well, we can socially distance and wear some masks, but we can also open the schools and open businesses. So this measured approach I'm talking about isn't made up. It's going on in Sweden and their deaths are about $564 million, UK full lockdown, 600 deaths per million. So we're seeing that the lockdowns aren't decreasing significantly the amount of deaths per million. Some of their Nordic neighbors have less deaths for a variety of reasons. I don't have time to go into today. So what my quick message here in a minute or two is just that we need to take an approach that's sustainable. A sustainable approach is slowing things down, opening up schools, opening up businesses, and then we can allow the people to have their independence and their personal responsibility to choose to wear masks and socially distance. As opposed to putting edicts on them, you know, kind of controlling them, let's empower them with data and let them study what other countries have done and make their own decision. That's what I'd like to share. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're good. Are there any questions? Are there any questions? Who are you guys? We are so excited. I'm from South Dakota. You might have a question. Yes. I'm so glad you guys are reaching this message. You know, South Dakota did something interesting. It's interesting that you're from there. So the governor did not restrict access to hydroxychloroquine. We know. You took out a flag for that. Right. And I believe you were the only state in the union that did that. And there's been studies out there that attempt to show that it doesn't work. They're inaccurate because they're given at the wrong time. The wrong dose, the wrong patient. Either too much or at the long time. So South Dakota did better because it had access to hydroxychloroquine. Thank you so much. OK. So if we, someone we loved as it was for COVID, and you said that the hydroc, or whatever you're trying to say is restricted, how do we get access to that? That's the number one question we're all asked every day. I want you to know that you're not alone. I've had many congressmen ask me, how can I get it? So the congressmen can't get it. It's tough luck for the average American Joe getting it. It's very difficult. You have to overcome a few hurdles. Your doctor has to have read the science with the critical eye and have eliminated the junk science. Many studies have been retracted, as you know. And number two, the pharmacist has to not restrict it. Many states have empowered their pharmacists to not honor physician prescription. That's never happened before. That interferes with the doctor-patient relationship where the patient talks to the doctor honestly and the doctor answers the patient honestly, has been violated. So you have a very difficult time as the average American. Some of the information we'll share later this afternoon is to show the mortality rates in countries where it's not restricted and the mortality rates where it is restricted. So I friends all over the world now because of this. And in Indonesia, you can just buy it over the counter. It's in the vitamin section. And I'm here to tell the American people that you can buy it over the counter any run because the leaders in Iran, the mullahs in Iran, think that they should have more freedom than Americans. I have a problem with that. My colleagues have problems with that. We don't like to watch patients die. But what would people have problems? They should be picking up phones. They should be calling their state. And their federal representatives and senators and say, we are the American people. We need to know that. Let me see one thing. I have a question. So you guys, we need the public to be in this group. Thank you, Julie. That is exactly right. If you hear what you're, when you hear this, if you're concerned and wondering why you may not be able to get access to it, we need to make four calls. Call your governor. Call both of your senators and call your congressman. And tell them that you want to know why you're not able to get access to a drug that doctors are telling you will help end this and help us reduce the number of hospitalizations and reduce the number of deaths. Urge them to read, Dr. Harvey Rish's study from Yale. He's a Yale professor of epidemiology. And from there, you'll find other studies. Yes. How do people trust the data that they're looking at every day? The numbers are so very low. There are those Johns Hopkins, CDC, which divides COVID deaths in different categories. You don't want those related to pneumonia, other things. Why are COVID-19 so high? How do we get the right information to make this happen? So the only number that I think is worth paying any attention to, and even that number is not so helpful, but is mortality, because that's a hard and fast number. So the case number is almost irrelevant. And that's because there's a lot of inaccuracies with the testing. And also, even if the test is accurate, most people are asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic. So it's not that important to know. So the case number, which you see rising all the time in the news, is basically irrelevant. And if you had told us a few months ago that that was the number that the medium's going to go crazy over, we all would have just laughed at that. And that's essentially herd immunity. There's lots of people out there who have tested positive without symptoms or with very mild symptoms. So the only number that's worth paying attention to is mortality. When you look at the mortality, this is a disease that takes, that unfortunately, kills our most frail members of society. People with multiple comorbid conditions, specifically diabetes, obesity, is a big one. We don't talk about that, but it is. It's a fact. I'm coronary artery disease, severe coronary artery disease. People like that. And also, if you're older, it's a risk factor. But the biggest risk factor is if you have comorbid conditions. If you're young and healthy, this is not, you're going to recover. If you're under 60 with no comorbid conditions, it's less deadly than influenza. This seems to come as great news to Americans, because this is not what you're being told. I would say the answer is it's very difficult to get accurate numbers. If you want to smell pretty ripe arduous, if you had a message to Dr. Anthony Fauci, what would you say to him? Listen to the doctors. We, to the frontline doctors, have a meeting with the frontline doctors. And maybe I need to say that into the microphone. My message to Dr. Anthony Fauci is to have a meeting with these frontline doctors who are seeing real patients. They're touching human skin. They're looking people in the eye. They're diagnosing them. And they're helping them beat the virus. They're the ones who are talking to the patients. Have meetings with them. And do it every single day. And find out what they are learning about the virus firsthand. And this is, and it's important to understand, we have doctors here who are not emergency room doctors. They're preventing patients from even hitting the emergency room. So if they're only listening to emergency room or ICU at the very tragic end of a person's life, they're not getting the full story. They need to come back and hear the earlier portion. And they also need to understand what the lockdowns and the fears are doing to patients around this country because there are a lot of unintended consequences which the doctors can speak about. Let me say something. My message to Dr. Anthony Fauci is, when is the last time you put a status quo on a patient? Now, when you start seeing patients, like we see on a daily basis, you will understand the frustration that we feel. And you need to start feeling for American people like we do frontline doctors feel. I need to start realizing that they are listening to you. And if they are going to listen to you, you've got to give them a message of hope. You've got to give them a message that goes with what you already know. That hydroxychloroquine works. I actually have a touch of water. Dr. Warrior. As I've put it before. Dr. Emmanuel. Dr. Emmanuel. You mentioned before some remarkable results that you had treating your own patients. You said I believe over 300 patients. Yes. Have you been able to publish your findings when you results from the patients? We're working on publishing it right now. We're working on that. But this is what I'll say. People like Dr. Stem, you're a time published the data. And my question is, and that will make you see patients. There's enough data around the world. Yes, my data will come out. When that comes out, that's great. But right now, people are dying. So my data is not important for you to see patients. I'm saying that to my colleagues out there that talk about data, data, data. And if I can ask one more question. May I just interject? There is a lot of data on this. Not every clinician needs to publish a data to be taken seriously. The media has not covered it. There is a ton. I've got to commend you. I'm an America's frontline.com. There is a commendian of all the studies that work with hydroxychloroquine. The mortality rate was published in Detroit less than a month. It was in a life-worth week, and they published it. Mortality by half in the critically ill patient. The patients who are getting early has been estimated that one half to three quarters of those patients wouldn't be dead, which are in 70,000 to 100,000 patients, would still be alive if we had followed this policy. There's plenty of published data. I'm starting to announce that. People with Dr. Rich published data recently. So there's a lot of data out there. They don't need mine to make those decisions. In fact, I can ask one more question. There was a little girl who just a few days ago, was now used to otherwise healthy. And it was reported that she died of COVID-19. So I was curious, from your perspective, do you feel that this little girl possibly died from some other condition? It was largely attributed to COVID-19. Or is there some other reason why she would have died? No, it's exactly right. I will not be able to say that till I look at the little girl's literature, little girl's history and whatever happened. I know I've taken care of a lot of family members and I see a lot of children and they usually get mild symptoms. But I cannot talk about the case that I've not looked at. What was the age of the child again? She was nine years old. Okay, so listen, there are children who are dying of this infection. And the reality is that when they do die, they seem to have comorbidities. Really, you have to kind of look at each individual case uniquely. There have been a little over 30 patients in the entire country and the age category of 15 and below who have died of COVID. Frequently, they do have comorbidities like heart disease. They have asthma, they have other pulmonary issues. So I don't know, we don't know the answer to this nine-year-old girl tragically. She passed and she's no longer with us. But there's probably, if you dig into it, there's probably a story behind it. Dr. Hamilton, have you seen any patients who are having adverse side effects because schools have been closed with the crash in their suicide? I mean, I think that it is common knowledge that with the schools not being open, when you think about your experience in junior high and high school, what do you think about? You think about parties and you think about football games, socializing, those are the things we think about. Those are all being shut down, folks. Nobody is having fun anymore. And I will tell you that these are critical years of life to be out mixing with other kids, other people, and that has been shut down. So yes, there are lots of comorbidities that go along with shutting down. We're talking about anxiety, we're talking about depression, loneliness, abuse is happening. And kids who have particular children who have special needs kids are not doing well either. So there is a long list of complications that occur when you quarantine and lock down people. So that extends to what you were just talking about. We hear all these studies now, was calling that moms are trying to go back to work because of the medical education, how can they do that? Exposed, and then moms go back to school that the elderly grandparents are in. Right, well, this is a big issue. Yeah, this is a big issue because people are afraid, not that their children are going to get particularly ill because I think they're learning the truth that this infection is being tolerated well by children. But certainly, they look at their environment, their particular unique family. And I think in some situations, that may be an appropriate fear. However, I do think that as a general comment, the general rule through the country, kids can go back to school. Maybe a few kids here and there, they're living situation who they're being cared for, that can be a potential problem. But again, for younger children in particular, they're not the ones passing on the disease to the adults. I prefer to have a poor, poor, poor, poor. Maybe drop a manual, can you speak to that? Well, hydroxychloroquine, yeah. I mean, that can be done. Yes, that can be used. We're really pushing it. OK. You want to, OK, we're talking about, we can't open our businesses. We can't go to school. And parents are scared to get treated. And I personally have put over 100 people on hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis, doctors, teachers, people who are health care workers. My staff, me, I see over 15 to 20, sometimes 20, 15, 10 patients a day. I use a surgical mask. I've not been infected. Nobody I know has been infected. That's around me. So this is the answer to this question. You want to open schools? Everybody get on hydroxychloroquine. That is the prevention for COVID. One tablet every other week is good enough. And that is what we need to get across to the American people. There is prevention, and there is cure. We don't have to lock down schools. We don't have to lock down our businesses. There's prevention, and there is cure. So instead of talking about masks, instead of talking about lockdowns, instead of talking about all these things, put our teachers on hydroxychloroquine. Put those that are high risk on hydroxychloroquine. Those that want it, if you want to catch COVID, that's cool. But you should be given the right to take it and be prevented. So that's the message. We don't all this stuff that we're putting together, it's not necessary. Because hydroxychloroquine has a prevention. It's called hydroxychloroquine is a prevention for COVID. Earlier I heard you say that hydroxychloroquine. It's more of a pain. Yeah. That drug was the cure. But it also said measured with zinc and other drugs. Yes. You guys also said that previous doctors have used it, but they've used it in the wrong dosage. So I keep hearing the drug, but then what is the right dosage? What is the right dosage? That's what it's like. Yeah. That you're going to discuss with you. That's going to discuss with your doctor. But let me take the product. Let's take that. Yeah. That's a great question. Because the fear of this drug has driven the whole political situation has driven the fear towards this drug. So let's address that. This drug is super safe. It's safer than aspirin, motrin, Tylenol. It's super safe. So what the problem is in a lot of those studies, they did very, very high doses. Massive doses. All through the country, they did the remap study, the solidarity trial. That was the World Health Organization trial. And also the recovery trial. They used 2,400 milligrams in the first day. All you need is 200 to twice a week for prophylaxis. They used massive toxic doses. And guess what they found out? When you use massive toxic doses, you get toxic results. The drug doesn't work when you give toxic doses. It's a very safe drug. It concentrates in the lungs. 200 to 700 times higher in the lungs. It's an amazing drug because in the bloodstream, you're not going to get high levels. But you get massive levels in the lungs. So you're going to find yourself, if you're prophylax, the sooner the virus gets there, it's going to have a hard time getting through because the hydroxcorpion blocks it from getting in. And then once it gets in, it won't let the virus, it won't let it actually replicate. It'll actually bring in zinc. And zinc will mess up the copy machine called the RDRP. So with the combination of drugs, it's incredibly effective in the early disease by itself. It's incredibly effective as a prophylaxis. So I hope that is that answer the question? Yeah. I want to emphasize on something that Dr. Erzer just said, because I love the question. This is a treatment regimen that's very simple. And it should be in the hands of the American people. The difficult aspect of this is at the moment, because of politics, it's being blocked from doctors prescribing it, and it's being blocked from pharmacists releasing it. They've been empowered to overrule the doctor's opinion. Why is this not over the counter as you can get it in much of the world, in almost all of Latin America, in Iran, in Indonesia, in Sub-Saharan Africa? You can just go and buy it yourself. And the dose, my friends, is 200 milligrams twice in a week and zinc daily. That's the dose. I'm in favor of it being over the counter. Give it to the people. Give it to the people. Two more who can answer this question. And they know this information. Hi, I'm Dr. James Therar. I just want to add a couple of comments to what Dr. Gold was saying. If it seems like there is an orchestrated attack that's going on against hydroxychloroquine, it's because there is. One of you ever heard of a medication generating this degree of controversy. A 65-year-old medication that has been in the World Health Organization's safe, essential list of medications for years. OK, it's over the counter in many countries. And what we're seeing is a lot of misinformation. So I co-authored the first document on hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for coronavirus. This is back in March, and that kind of kicked off a whole series of a storm on it. And since then, there's been a tremendous amount of censorship on doctors like us and what we're saying. And a number of us have already been sent to that Google document that I co-authored was actually pulled down by Google. And this is after now, many studies have shown that it is effective and it is safe. You still can't read that article. And there's also this misinformation out there. And unfortunately, this has reached the highest orders of medicine. In May, there was an article published in The Lancet. So this is one of the world's most prestigious medical journals in the world. OK? The World Health Organization stopped all their clinical trials on hydroxychloroquine because of the study. And it was independent researchers like us who care about patients, who care about the truth, that dug into the study and determined that it was actually fabricated data. The data was not real. And we did this so convincingly that this study was retracted by the Lancet less than two weeks after it's published. This is almost unheard of, especially for a study of this magnitude. So I apologize to everyone for the fact there is so much misinformation out there. It's so hard to find the truth. And unfortunately, it's going to take looking in other places for the truth. That's going to be, that's why we formed frontline doctors here to try to help get the real information out there. I'm Dr. James Tadaro. Your website. Yeah, so most of my thoughts, I actually publish on Twitter. Twitter has been great lately. So my name is James Tadaro, MD, T-O-D-A-R-O, MD. But I also have a website, medicineuncensored.com, which contains kind of a lot of the information about hydroxychloroquine, I think, is much more objective than what's going on in other media channels. So I want to take this. It's starting to get too short of a point in terms of 20%. That's important, because as I understand, from not only from doctors, but from other people in media, that YouTube has blocked the information, specifically that has to go up. So I'll go ahead and address that real quickly. I would say Facebook and YouTube have taken most draconian measures to silence and censorship people. And this is coming from the CEO of YouTube, as well as Mark Zuckerberg saying anything that goes against what the World Health Organization has said is subject to censorship. And we all know the World Health Organization has made a number of mistakes during this pandemic. They have not been perfect by any means. Twitter, although they have some flaws and faults and flags are in contents, they really still remain one of the freest platforms to share dialogue, intelligent discussion regarding this information. And many of us here today actually connected on social platform mediums like that. Would you talk about what you mentioned earlier about the medication and how long it's been around? Sure thing, sure thing. I'm Dr. Jill Latapoe. I'm a physician at UCLA, and I'm a clinical researcher also. And I'm speaking for myself and not on behalf of UCLA. So I want to say that, so I'm thinking of the people who are behind the screens that are watching what you guys are broadcasting. And I want to share with you, because there's so much controversy and the atmosphere is so full of conflict right now, that what this group of doctors is trying to do fundamentally is really to bring more light to this conversation about how we manage COVID-19. And the huge challenge. And that's what this is ultimately about. And bringing light to something means thinking more about trade-offs, about one of my colleagues said unintended consequences. And I actually think that's not even the right word. The right word is unanticipated consequences. Really thinking about the implications of the decisions we're making in this really extraordinary time that we're in. So I'm sure people are listening to some of the discussion about hydroxychloroquine and wondering, what are these doctors talking about? And these are doctors that take care of patients, board certified, med school, great med school, all of that. How could they possibly be saying this? I walk CNN and NBC, and they don't say anything about this. And that's actually, that's the point. There are issues that are moral issues that really there should be a singular voice. So for me, issues related to whether people are treated differently based on their sex or race or their sexual orientation, I personally think those are moral issues. And there's only one position on those. The COVID-19 is not a moral issue. COVID-19 is a challenging complex issue that we benefit from having multiple perspectives on. So it's not good for the American people when everyone is hearing one perspective on the main stations. There's just, there's no way that's going to service. So, you know, so the perspective most people have been hearing is that hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, right? That's the perspective that most people have been hearing on the mainstream television. And I believe that perspective too, until I started talking to doctors who would look more closely, some of the physicians behind me here, who would look more closely at the data and at the studies. So it is a fact that several randomized trials have come out so far. That's our highest level of evidence. And it's shown that hydroxychloroquine, their findings have generally been that there's no significant effect on health. In those, on, on, on, there's no significant help benefit. So that's the fact that the randomized controlled trials have come out to so far that have come out. In fact, there were two or three big ones that came out over the last two weeks and annals of internal medicine, new internal internal medicine, and I think one other journal. It is also a fact that there have been several observational studies. So these are just not randomized controlled trials, but patients who are getting treated with this medication that have found that hydroxychloroquine improves outcomes. So both of those things are true. So there's evidence against it and there's evidence for it. It is also a fact that we are in an extraordinarily challenging time. So given those, given those considerations, how can the right answer be to limit physicians' use of the medication? That can't possibly be the right answer. And when you consider that this medication before COVID-19 had been used for decades, right? By patients with rheumatoid arthritis, by patients with lupus, by patients with other conditions, by patients who needed, you know, who were traveling to West Africa and needed malaria prophylaxis, they've, we've been using it for a long time. But all of a sudden, it's, it's elevated to this area of looking like some poisonous drug that just doesn't make sense. And then when you add on to that, the fact that we've had two of the biggest journals in the world, New and World Journal of Medicine, and Lancet, as my colleagues say, retract studies that found, interestingly, that hydroxychloroquine, harm patients, right? Both of these studies, and they had to retract these studies, which really is unheard of. That should raise everyone's concern about what is going on. So at the very least, we can live in a world where there are differences of opinion about the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, but still allow more data to come, you know, still allow physicians who feel like they have expertise with it, use that medication, and still, you know, talk and learn, and get better at helping people with COVID-19. So why we're not there is not good, doesn't make sense, and we need to get out of there. Listen, let me just put a little bit of that. I have seen 350 patients and counting, put them on hydroxychloroquine, they all got better. This is what I would say to all those studies, they had high doses, they were given in the wrong patients, I would call them fake science. Any study that says hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, it's fake science, and I want them to show me how it doesn't work. How is it gonna work for 350 patients for me and they are all alive, and then somebody say it doesn't work? Guys, all them studies fake science. What was your question? Thank you. Last question. I heard, they're mentioned in the case of the side issues, side ladies, and such messages. Yeah. There is a lot of issues as a result of hydroxychloroquine, there is a shutdown. It is, if you're a recommendation, I'm federalized by the program, I don't understand how you would go to that conclusion, if the problem was if the schools are shut down, and it's causing it, we need to open up the schools. Yeah, I would go to the school, I would open up the schools, because the most important thing for children is to socialize and to be with other kids and to learn. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get kids back in school. Let's keep. You don't believe that. Kids back in school. This kid. You don't believe that. Kids back in school. We're in favor of kids back in school. Thank you, everyone. Back to work. Thank you very much. And we are going to be going back live, continuing our summit, so you can continue watching. Once we get back, we may be running a couple minutes late, but we'll be back right around three o'clock. Thank you so much, everyone, and thank you for coming for the press conference. It's big size girl. It's big size girl. It's big size. That's right. I believe it. Those things level. I have more specialised. He's more specialised. I have to defer. The depression is caused by low zinc levels. And when you go into a hospital now, they don't test for those zinc levels. Low zinc levels are manifested by loss of sense of smell, loss of taste. Why are these also symptoms of COVID? COVID, loss of sense of smell, loss of taste. And the reason is because zinc is the natural thing that you used to fight the COVID. What happens is, the zinc stops RNA polymerase. And the hydroxychloroquine allows the zinc to go into the cells to stop the RNA polymerase. Because there was a sign behind it. So if you allow the zinc, I understand. Let me explain it a little bit better. The zinc stops RNA polymerase. And it's used up by your cells in the normal fighting of COVID. So if you never took hydroxychloroquine, you'd still be zinc depleted. We're in a natural state of zinc depletion in the United States, but the COVID decreases your zinc even more. And you need it to fight off any virus. That's why your mom always said, take your zinc, right? So is the problem with children on psych units that they have low zinc levels? No, no, we're talking about the COVID and how that. Okay. So my question was about if federal funds should be diverted to helping therapists, social workers, and other frontline workers to deal with the psychological issues that were mentioned by your colleague. That shuts down, that shut downs in the government and school closures cause an increase in suicidal ideation and substance abuse and anxiety. So those environmental factors are what cause those mental health issues. So doesn't it stand to reason that then funds to help those institutions deal with the problem should be receiving more funding? I'm going to defer to my psychiatrist. He didn't ask the question. You don't like it, you don't like it. No, because it's true. Yeah. And I mean, first we need to take care of the biological basis, which is the zinc, which is the vitamin D, lack of vitamin D. We're dumping our milk. I don't know about that. We're dumping our milk. We're dumping our milk in the gutters in the mineral pits right now. And if we would get that to the kids, when we would get that to the kids out of school, that would be very helpful. OK. So I'll defer to my colleague. So my question, I still haven't gotten a clear answer. Yeah, I'm going to try to answer. It's not public policies on my expertise, but I can try to. Oh no, it's not really about, it's not my expertise either, actually. But I was wondering since your colleague said that as a result of school closures and government shutdowns would cause an increase in suicidal ideation, anxiety, substance abuse, and a variety of other issues, I'm wondering if federal funding should be diverted to frontline workers, social workers, mental therapists? So the answer to your question is this. I see it this way. Harm is already come is what we're saying. So the answer to the question is, harm has already come, which we do about that harm. And I don't know the inner workings of the government, but the actual to say that harm has already come and to say that we're going to do something about it, it makes sense. So to me as a doctor, I think if we know harm has come, even I know we already got run over by a car, I think it makes sense to let me go ahead and go real after I get my thing. Yeah, so. I think it makes a lot of sense. So I'm going to just say to me, it makes sense. And I think it's fair. I appreciate the well-rounded concern. It just kind of stops with concern. And it doesn't continue into action. And the congressman, and I'm not sure who it was, maybe you could actually give him patience in the year. Hey guys, this is Matt Perry, bright bar news. We want to continue bringing you the panel of doctors who are speaking. Thank you so much for tuning in. Stay tuned. We're going to be coming back live in just a little bit. And sorry for a little overexposure here. Obviously just ripped my mic off the stand. But we're going to bring the action back to you. We're going to go live with a panel shortly. So stay tuned to Bright Bar on Facebook, follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, of course, on our website, brightbarts.com, and of course, YouTube. Stay tuned. We will be back shortly. Have a good one, guys.