The New JFK Show #205 Emory Roberts/Beverly Brunson

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Welcome everyone to the new JFK show number 205 all right We're gonna have Larry Rivera steer the ship tonight and we're also gonna talk about his new book which is I can't Recommend of JFK book any higher than that and honestly and then we have Dr. Fetch's book So between those two I really I think they're just essential reading for truth in the whole JFK assassination So Larry tell us all about your book are let's plug it at least You know what it deserves to be well, well, we're gonna talk about it in Second portion of the show obviously, but I wanted to finish up on on what we had started last week about Emory Roberts which you know due to time constraints, you know with Mike Machinica who was who was an excellent researcher out of LA and who is writing a script For Hollywood on you know different aspects of the JFK assassination regarding Lea Oswald and the different Patsys which are of interest to him and Yeah, yeah, and you know, he's gonna make his famous But anyway, we got a very good response from my glass. We people were looking forward to it again Well, yeah, hello. Yeah, he's working He's moving on stuff. Yeah, and and I have to I want to also mention it We have some very very interesting Information coming up in the next couple of weeks regarding Cuban operations and Cuban Sylvia Sylvia the ran. No, no, no, no, no, no, I can't give it away But you know you tune because it's gonna really you know like like Muhammad Ali used to say we shook up the world, you know So anyway But let me go on the screen share Gary here real quick because This is something that Mike had looked at and as you all know Mike is an as an expert in Filmography, okay, you can you guys see that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and and Mike Machanska Is he's been in the Hollywood Environment and everything so you know and as we all know and Mike has told me that you know a lot of the Film experts in Hollywood don't even want to touch the JFK assassination because they know that this is a proof of film There's been altered they know that it's nothing but a fabrication and But you know he's told me that you know these people you know have more to just to pay You know and families to support you know, so they will not go out on a limb and Say anything about there's a proof film even though people like Simea What's a Jim Simea Wilkerson Simea Wilkinson yeah, and you have seen those those slides and She's got it like a half a dozen film restoration experts. I've been in the lab. They have a very high quality version of the film I was astonished by the clarity and definition. They were all dumbfounded that the Backing out of the blood at the back of the head had been done in such a crude fashion Yeah, right, right and as we as all we've also gone on to the other frames You know after 313 and and verified and seen you know the magnitude of the you go out on the back of the head at three of 43 and Jim at three three three 70 So 72 writer or 74 Jim say again three 74. Yeah, that's right 74. Yeah, and And three 43 which you know is just right where you found Jackie's head glove and Provides a perfect background. Yeah, I don't know that was a brilliant fine. Marry I just got to tell you one. I don't know how anybody can even you know begin to you know Deny and refute anything like that But in this in this episode in this show here We're gonna talk about Emory Roberts We started about we started to do this last week and ran out of time We ran out of time we ran out of time and I just wanted to recapit recapitulate here about Emory Roberts and go back here What he's doing in the Alton 6 photograph and we have this one here where you can see as they're coming down Main Street And we have this side by side comparison and and just so happens that the angle of the Sun and everything are perfect So that we can do a side by side comparison and then A shadow effect Okay, and as you can see on the right here Emory Roberts and the Alton 6 where apparently he's holding some kind of microphone device You know to his face to his mouth You know if you look at the other photograph at Main and Marcus Street He is not as you can see and it's pretty obvious and then we did a an overlay comparison for people to look at and you can see as the Overlative opacity Progresses that there's something wrong Bracically wrong one on in the a6 and I say for those who may be unaware Emory Roberts being in charge of the security detail was the pivotal player in Dele Plaza He was the guy who was in charge or making sure the secret service did not protect Jack that he was left vulnerable to Assassination a guarantee he would be taken out Go ahead and read about Emory Roberts just what it says real quick It says Emory Roberts SS special agent in charge of the presidential follow-up car when Secret service special agent John D. Ready hopped off the car Right right front running board at the sound of gunfire Roberts immediately called him back because he didn't think When he didn't think ready would be able to reach the presidential limousine as he sped up and then as he was Traveling no Notice how absurd is that explanation? That's right And and notice how quickly he responded to Reddy's reaction another he was ready to stop ready when Reddy was ready and not only that Yeah, this is so shameful and not only that Douglas Jackson in the Nukum tapes clearly said that five secret service agents God off and wait right And besides they're claiming it was because the limousine sped up But in fact it actually was slowing down and coming to a halt so the whole thing is a complete Jackson and Jackson didn't even didn't just say that in his in the Nukum tapes He also wrote about it in his manuscript that he wrote the night of the November 22nd 1963, you know, he said hey, you know secret service agents, you know surrounded the limousine with their gun strong But anyway, Robert's Robert's wasn't even the man in charge of symbols. It was supposed to be Kalerman Jim and he countermanded Kalerman's authority and I think Emory was in charge of the whole detail Kalerman was in charge of the presidential limo Right, right, right, right and and he yeah, right and he went up and above Kalerman, but here's what We you know we start to Show last week and this is one unknown film that we found right yeah In that video It's of the United States of the free and democratic republic. Yeah, the fifth estate out of Canada and I looked at this and I was you know I just sort of like glanced over and then I played in slow motion And I was astounded to see right here as I'm looking at Kalerman How there was airbrushing and editing of the film, okay, and This we looked at you know the motorcade route and how and I thought this was really interesting because this was the original for the original diagram of where where the motorcade was gonna go and as you can see it's going down El Main Street. It does not go Up Houston and Elm it goes down Main Street and then it goes off to the to the Simmons Freeway Which is the way the motorcade should have gone Okay, yes, so so much for blaming Oswald for knowing the parade route exactly exactly. I think that's a great observation Okay, because you know You know if he was if Oswald you know was planning this thing in such you know in advance and everything then You know he you know just There's some reports Larry that he didn't even know the motorcade was passing by and it was He was late in joining the crowd and wound up in the position He was at the back of the crowd leading out to see what was going on Yeah, and over here that he was making phone calls on the first floor and within I think 10 minutes before the assassination because those Some there on the first floor making phone calls, you know and standing right next to the the phone Here of a of a participant in an assassination plot. Yeah, Jim. What you talking about this is a Canadian film where it escaped The scrutiny of the guy. Yeah Well, I want to let everyone know they take a candidate before they had a develop Yeah, we're sure in here in slow motion. Okay, so uh, you guys can see exactly what's going on here and Here's ready, okay, here's Alandus here's of all people Clint Hill and as you can see he's holding on He's he's Yeah, he's he's where he's supposed to be behind Jackie, you know on the JFK limel and as you you just saw There was this black airbrushing that Blocked here Emory Roberts Okay By the way you can infer that Greer and Calumann and Emory Roberts of course were in on it Ready was not and I do not believe Clint Hill was either I think those were you know, they were doing their job to the best of their ability under at first condition But notice here as Clint Hill's right hand becomes obscured and Calumann and we talked about this last week how yeah how you know progressively here And you know, they're on completely different planes there with you know at least to Roberts not Calumann Yeah, yeah Roberts in their complete yeah right here. I know he's gone now You got you got and you've got something and they're at least 20 and 25 feet, you know away from each other You know, I think they were worried questions would be asked about what they were talking about on the radio and whether The transcripts are recordings there Most certainly they didn't want to be exactly that's exactly the point, you know, there were no transcripts at whatsoever And as we go and look at the Dallas Times Herald photograph as there are moving from Harwood on to Maine And this is the position that Clint Hill was occupied Well, Larry look look at that photograph. That's a president of the United States. He has no protection whatsoever Yeah, Hill isn't providing any protection and nor is anyone else yeah Yeah So as we went and isolated each and and then we bowed we blew up the The images. Okay, this is Clint Hill You can see his left hand holding on to the syrup there and the Left hand and he's there in the opposite directions of each other and then As we move on to cream 11 to Through 14, you know and Micra looked at this and makes it I mean Mike Medium said look that's You know that is alteration and then as you look at the right side of Hill's face you can see that it's been Yeah, yeah, you can see the the airbrushing you and all this all this area and all the sudden his right hand is disappeared Jerry so you know and and this is this is I think this covers maybe A second of the film you know and and when you look at it in real time Okay, so then you know as the film progresses here and I must say also that I I slowed this down Two milliseconds, okay, so that we could analyze yeah And as we see you know obviously, you know something is going on back here with Emory Roberts You know and you know I have to say you know, I'll say right here I think he was coordinating something about what was gonna happen, you know down in Dele Pazam. Oh, of course Of course, that's what they were doing on that channel Larry they were talking about the assassination And now it's gonna be carried out where they were and whether people were in position and if they were ready to shoot That's all there it would all be there in the transcript. That's right So then we move on to secret service agent Henry Ripka who everybody knows, you know Anybody who knows anything about the assassination, you know, and I want to play this film Okay Love field now. That's right And there's Ripka And here's here's Roberts as he stands up and he says, you know Get lost Here's Ripka Okay, and you know he had a character part on the other side of the limo who is also left behind that guy right there Larry you see Yeah, he's also left behind Yeah, two agents left behind He's going to run along beside the presidential limousine the whole motorcade and they're taken out In other words, they're making sure they're stripping the security way right from the beginning That's right that's uh to paraphrase that was more in security stripping exactly And putting the president out in front of course Observe he should have been in the middle. So this is why Elpletra Proudi for example wasn't allowed to be in Dallas. He would have taken one lit look and seen it was a setup Because the limos were in the wrong sequence the most single most important tell in the fact that instead of being all uniformly black Cadillac limousine to where different makes and colors and models so that Conspirators were knowing exactly where everyone was in the entire motorcade So you know, I'm glad you mentioned that Jim because I'm going to go back here and play some of this because I see A vehicle that is not in the proper sequence, okay? Let's let's take a look at this because I don't think anybody is ever uh Yeah, I wonder if her office was in a position to a board dimension here not here. Let me let me go back I want to show you guys this right here. Look at this look at this uh uh What in the world is that big truck doing there? That's right. That's right That's the part of a presidential motorcade. That's exactly what I'm talking about The absurd where it was a great catch That's now this and this wasn't part of the motorcade of course not You know now and this one is I think is this one's right behind the secret service It might even right be right behind Oh, you can see there's an agent there on the side So you got the presidential limit of the secret then this big truck Yeah, yeah, what's going on here? This is you know and yeah Man, that's that's a great catch. That's a great catch Larry Yeah, that's a great catch nobody's ever you know talked no one's ever noticed this before But we didn't have access to this video before that's right. That's right when I was analyzing this Wait a minute, you know what the heck is this is talking about the Canadian film I'm a tank in the middle of the motorcade Yeah, yeah, what happened here, you know, where did this vehicle have where did this vehicle get you know stopped or you know whatever you know I did the secret service ever allow it to be a part of the motorcade. I mean this is another proof Yeah, yeah, so anyway, I thought that would be interesting So going back to ribca, you know, I you know, we go here and show some stills, you know from that and obviously Here, you know, this is from the David Wolper, you know, this this only came out after Wolper when it and and bought out this film and it was published in four days in November and the Wolper film obviously, you know is pro loan nut you gay and Here just you will we've already seen this and You know and we Roberts, you know Obviously was was part of this and then Vince Palamaran I think this is something that we need to share with the audience because it really shows what Roberts was up to that day And I think Presidential aides kenno donald and Dave powers best summed up the situation when they wrote Roberts one of President Kennedy's agents had decided to switch to Johnson as soon as Kennedy was shot In addition for other authors have noticed agent Robert switchable agents including chief Curry once at Parkland hospital Special agent Robert, totally you served as superior number three agent Roy Tellermann Emory ordered Kettleman's agents around and confided in Rufus Youngblood Dissoomed to be special agent in charge replacing the absent band Well, William Manchester reports as having occurred at Parkland makes one both sick and repulsed Exactly, there's an old donald bounded toward the Lincoln powers heard Emory Robert shouting at him to stop But disregarded him a second might say Kennedy's life Dave too bad you were on the running board of the follow-up car Emory Roberts brush pass of Donald determined to make sure that Kennedy was dead get up He said to Jacqueline Kennedy there was no reply so he lifted her elbow for a close look He dropped it to Kellerman is She was in Kennedy Oh, I I miss that He said to Jacqueline Kennedy there was no reply she was Cruelling faintly it was probably moaning she was actually Faintly we're leaving Roberts could see the president's face so he lifted her elbow for a close look He dropped at the Calamann is superior said turstly you stay with Kennedy I'm going to Johnson meaning you stay with a dead president. I'm going You I'm going to the live one because you know listen the mortician said there was no discoloration of the face which meant he died instantly So he was dead right deal a to the right temple in Dele plaza And here he was totally more of a button. So Emory knew what to look for of course Is this game that every Roberts cannot enlighten us on his conduct having never been questioned by the Warren Commissioner of the FBI He died on October 8th 1973. It is Brookville Maryland home after an apparent horror attack Roberts was 58 at the time only author William Manchester spoke with him on December 4th 1964 in April 26 1965 respectively Incredibly Roberts was a president's receptionist during the Johnson administration I'll still a member of the Secret Service receiving a special service award from the Treasury Department for improving Communications and Services to the public of 1968 A year later during the start of the Nixon administration in 1969 Robert was promoted to the covenant position of its Spector at Secret Service headquarters responsible for overseeing a number of protecting procedures and policies Proverbs retired from the Secret Service in February 1973 having insured the death of the successor to Lyndon B. John Do you want to thank Vince Palamara okay for publishing this all right Vince Vince has done such great work that Members of the Secret Service say Vince you know more about us than we do Hey, you read the paper newspaper? Sure, Emory B. Roberts dies official and Secret Service Emory P. Roberts 58 former Inspector in the Secret Service and for many years White House receptionist died Monday as Brookville Maryland home after an apparent horror attack Mr Roberts was appointed to the Secret Service in January 1944 and Baltimore and also served in the Washington office And with a presidential protection division he was a president's receptionist during the Johnson administration awarded the exceptional civilian service award for outstanding service while protecting Richard M. Nixon then vice president In June of 1958, Mr. Roberts received a special service award from the Treasury Department for improving communications and services to the public in 1968 A year later is promoted to the position of Inspector and Secret Service headquarters and that capacity He was responsible for overseeing a number of protected policies and procedures Mr. Roberts retired from the Secret Service class February and Navy Of cockiesville Maryland he attended Baltimore Business College in the University of Baltimore later he served with the Maryland State Police The Baltimore County Police and as an investigator for the office of price administration he is survived by his wife Betty Of the home at one nine five two seven treadway road Oldie Mill and two sons dogless of Lansing, Michigan and Steven of the whole Yeah, I would like to say is uh for Freddie Mercury of Queen is uh sing any way the wind blows This is an ugly this is an ugly dude And what the hell do you make out of him getting an award from the Treasury Department? Come on, well see Secret Service is a branch of the Treasury Gary Yeah So anyway, I Remember remember Gary the other role of the Secret Service is With the counter-titting counter-titting correct right right right exactly That makes a lot of sense. I tell you what he's starting to expect that he got rewarded for his duty. Oh of course Yeah, yeah, so Gary we don't you willingly participate in the assassinated jfk got payoffs they all been Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so we do uh do we do a pause now Gary or what? Yeah, we can take a break right now. I'll just I tell you what Yeah, let's take a break right now and we'll be right back jfk show number two oh five All right All right, go ahead Lauren. Let's talk about your chapter in your new book Well, I thought uh, you know, it was time that uh we uh dedicated at least you know half an hour or some a little time here To give our audience and the people that follow this uh show a sneak preview of uh the jfk horseman and one of my favorite chapters is chapter 19 and And happens to be and I think that Jim was very uh He he hit the nail, you know right on the head when he said queen hakati and the jfk horseman for the final two chapters of the book And Beverly Brunson obviously was the queen hakati and for those who don't know in Greek mythology queen hakati was She was agatus, you know who threw thunderbolts, you know at her enemies and destroyed them and you know in that way In that manner and uh and I have to admit Larry. I'm in love with Beverly Baronson Yeah, well I have to say you know that uh her research had been Disconced over there at uh Harold Weisberg site and we've talked about this before how Harold you know just placed all of her letters and her papers You know, uh he filed them away because he didn't have time or you know The motivation to really look at her research, you know and he uh very Uh in a very uh prophetic uh fashion. He said look. I'm just gonna put your stuff in you know in my files There is someday, you know somebody will look and then uh study them And that's what I've been doing for the past four years, you know and along came Larry Yeah, yeah, and I think uh, uh, you know some of her quotes, you know, are just so incredible Gary and Jim that uh it sort of like shows, you know her passion Okay, and her commitment to Getting at the bottom, you know of the JFK thing and and I have to say also that the uh at the time We're talking about 67 68 66 maybe you know where she did not have the resources that we have today Right just a couple of pictures and she discovered all this stuff without blender without Photoshop Yeah without looking at the the actuals of prudofilm which uh Jim garrison did not uh Make available until the trial 1968 1969 and when he subpoenaed it from time life And she was that she only worked on whatever you know she could find you know in media, you know magazines, you know newspapers, you know and some of the stuff you know that That she presented you know and all this documentation and and and papers and correspondence with With the hair was spurred with so spot on that later on And you know after after a while Uh, she was the object and the target of something very strange that happened to her Okay, where she was actually kidnapped drug and everything, you know and and she was lured to a meeting with somebody with whom she was supposed to uh share information on the JFK case and And she ended up in the hospital, you know after she had been drugged. She had never she didn't drink at all somebody slipped uh something into her her drink and uh and i i just think that This is something that would only happen to somebody that was really ruffling some feathers, you know Jim and uh Yeah, they're getting very deep worried to get this kind of abusive treatment Yeah, and and and she realized that her her male was being open You know her correspondence between uh a brysper wife's book and her was being open and examined and she even noticed it, you know and she mentions it in in a letter to wife's book is your male being open You know and i've spoken to uh vince celandria about this and he has been completely dumbfounded because he he said how come that did not happen to me You know because vince was more, you know visible, you know and and him and and her fell men, you know his brother-in-law But uh Beverly was the one who was targeted, you know because and and that's why i thought that it was very important that we put over her working a perspective You know and i don't know how much time we're gonna have here But i think her background is really important if Jim wants to do the honor here. Oh sure sure Passion is the ultimate expression of the intellect Beverly Brunson from backstarts brings Kansas was an author in poet She was born seven November 1928 died 21 February 2000 She graduated from the University of Missouri in 1955 made a cap her father lee roy brunson worked in the 1940s for root manufacturing served one year in the Kansas house of reveries Senatives and also served as mayor of backstarts spring is for 10 years from 1954 to 64 Beverly lived in New York for a while She never married and lived a more less included life with her parents in her longtime companion Mary Gibson This chapter will offer perspective on Beverly's research and studies pertained to the JFK assassination We'd only span a couple of years from 1966 to 1968 According to her second cousin clenish angthurne at most of Beverly's records and writing perished in an accident Father being transported and moved from one location to another the transport truck Became submerged into one of the many creeps of the area of backstarts springs during the storm Only her original desk remains in the possession of her extended family Miss Brunson the succession with the JFK case centered on a few of the more important and controversial issues Which he felt had not been resolved which is summarized in this quote from 1968 letter to Harold Weisberg You will I trust forgive me for sending you so much and at my own will The this case has come apart. I eat and sleep it and I think the time is crucial I have acquired a number of gray hairs my first these last two months, but I am not ashamed of them Beverly Brunson March 1968 1966 Beverly established reverse contact with Harold Weisberg. They never met however They maintained a casual relationship for a couple of years Was she sent many unsolicited letters and manuscripts detailing her theories while she poured over The 26 volumes of the Warren commission and other printed media available at the time She was an extremely well-versed and informed writer who meticulously sourced her work with precision for others to follow and verify Weisberg never discouraged Brunson from sending her research however with everything that he had on his plate He admitted he could not properly address an analyzer work opting instead the place or investigations in a university archive What she did In prophetic fashion Weisberg wrote the following in 1968 Generally speaking even I can find no immediate use for it Oh welcome anything you might care to send I may then be able to make it available to others like the occasional newsperson who has an interest Have it in case there is an investigation and will have it in my files for the day when as I've been told my files will wind up in the university archive I've asked that this be broadened to include the files of wall working off the case Thanks to Weisberg foresight we can revisit Ms. Brunson's impressive work and appreciate the significance of her insight industry and perceptiveness Perhaps the reason Weisberg did not take much of her research seriously might have been because he did not believe in photographic alteration And Beverly was emphatic that most of the photographic record was tainted time and modern technology have confirmed that Ms. Brunson may have been right in many of her theories I think that's really impressive Jim Yeah, I agree not having the technical Kills Right off the bat right The way a dentist can be no can do for example. Yeah, and right off the bat, you know she was saying hey that is a brutal film You know it's full of crap, you know, it's been altered, you know and this isn't that right right I think the very first researcher who can be credited With saying that's a pro-trophilm has been altered it has to be Beverly Brunson, you know, I think that's what that she's the champion Beverly had superior analytical skills would you use to break down and analyze many of the inconsistency she found into 26 volumes of the Warren commission as Sylvia Marwood observed the 88 the conclusions of the 8888 page summary known as the Warren reporter country Of supporting evidence This chapter will take a look at her work with altered sex and its controversy is including diversionary tactics She believed to be embedded in the photograph and also analyze her work with a's a pro-trophilm using the fuse a pro-trophilm The Warren commission published as exhibits and those filtered by life magazine in ulcens six versus a pro-trophilm 255 in between we will doubt it other areas of Brunson's investigation such as the Dallas police department and motorcycle escort officers The phantom ambulance and the third victim of the shooting Enter findings on the Mormon photograph. These are about a handful of the areas of investigation at Brunson was involved in Bear in mind that all of her analysis and research was done in the late 1960s. Hey, and I have to say, you know, that's no Something that is really really important, you know, that she was involved in some of the most important aspects of the case gym You know, we're talking about stuff that today is still being analyzed and in no uncertain terms Yeah, I would say Berkeley had a great synthetic intellect where she could put together disparate pieces to diagnose what was going on Otherwise, she wouldn't have been able to make these discoveries Yeah, yeah, and of course, you know Mary Gibson was her companion, you know lifetime companion and and some of the passages of the letters, you know, they back and forth with Weisberg suggest that both of her were deeply involved in the case and they formed a team, okay, so I thought that it was very important also to give Mary Gibson, you know, some credit These passages from a couple of her letters of Weisberg's suggests her life long partner Mary Gibson aided in her research Miss Brunson sounds stiff at this late date Mary and I are working hard. We think it best to do it right. It is going to take Some more time. It is all there. I wish I could talk to you Feel the need very much the next time you are this way Perhaps we could come to meet you and talk an hour or so perhaps you might have a layover at the Kansas City or which it to airport sometime Dear mr. Weisberg a picture of me Is asking yeah, he's asking her for a picture Lost Mary oh Okay, I'll see if I can get Mary to take one of me on her new color polaroid and I will obtain one of her two Somehow though I can't see a picture of me and anybody's files except for a comic relief Yeah, laws of mercy is an expression, you know, you know like go mercy Ah, yeah, I don't know the expression laws of mercy. Thank you. It's a mercy. You know, it's another thing It's no words when expressing who she believed was responsible for the assassination from the president all the way down to Individuals of the dpd who she suspected were closely affiliated with the right-wing organizations about which of course she was correct Yeah Let's convince the original plan of the conspirators was to say of Oswald as part of a red conspiracy Which would bring about an outright response and provoke a retaliatory invasion of Cuba. She's spot on The julienne mercer incident. She suspected was planned to draw attention to the know the gold water stickers on two vehicles that grew the west parking lot Of the tspd behind the know where indication and whoever was behind the assassination Wanted to make sure the republic at right wing could have also been suspected and would have provided a special personal name Brand or pathological stamp belonging to whoever was behind it Ronson came just short of naming LBJ as the mastermind of it all She concluded that all this attention was dropped in favor of a low-nut scenario much to the detriment and objection of the Dallas police department That's some really heavy stuff there Jim, you know That's very good. That's very good. You're sizing the whole See her making a way through this more rass and sorting it out. Yeah, yeah Here's before the release of most of the films of the assassination well before it was later confirmed by modern technology Bronson was always expecting that these had been altered edited And in many cases suppressed more over she considered the control Over the photographic evidence to be of the upmost importance in the success of the assassination and subsequent cover up And this is a very important passage here because this is where she lays it all out Jim You approved that the powers that we were desperately afraid of photographic evidence I am merely submit that it could be what I am interested in that they wanted to suppress Especially since they suppressed the fourth ride or also the fact that Featherstone descended so fast on Mrs. Bourbon and didn't Gene Hill say that Featherstone turned out to be a cop might indicate that Assassins had planned on the possibility That they might be photographed and were prepared to grab the films in which case They would also have taken pains to conduct an assassination that would reveal the minimum on film They would have known in advance that many cameras would agree in evidence I think they were counting on a trick assassination to escape the cameras Which it did almost Firecrackers silent shots and other diversions More than 50 witnesses claim they heard and saw firecrackers and streamers explode during the assassination The documentation is extensive and it's beyond this open this chapter to go into the details of each and every case Secret service men who were in the follow-up car Witnesses who line the parade route in the area of Elman Houston streets are all included in this documentation The smell of gunpowder and abundant smoke Permiated the area despite higher than normal winds around noon time on that faithful day Ronson wrote extensively about this. It was convinced the use of diversiary tactics such a firecrackers and streamers Was fundamental to the success of the operation appointed out the misconception most people have regarding smoking rifles And impossibility given the characteristics of modern rifles which emit very little smoke if at all Yeah It's auction six on the hood of LBJ's car right below the left windshield Wiper she knows the foreign object not part of the cause you call the streamer This object could have carried some kind of firecracker exploding device and would have provided a diversion It's attract attention from other snipers or closer shooters Such as one possibly place in the storm drain that the North curb of Elm Street Zeroed in on the kill obviously those who knew through the streamer did not intend for it to land on the hood of the vice president's car This is how Beverly describe it The other possible firecracker streamer may be lying on the hood of the vice president's car It's a long whitey-shock of the position of roughly the windshield wiper But it is too large and glowing to be the wiper and does not correspond to the wiper on the other side of the hood This would explain why Yarbrow said he smelled gunpowder on the car All the way to the hospital and nothing else will explain it and explains why Involume 18 agent or in Taylor reported that after the first shot he thought he saw firecracker a screamer Fly pass the tail of the vice president's car. This was shot one. It may have come from the Dow tax billy Yeah And it's noted by Brunson again above the presence of streamers and firecrackers was confirmed by secret service agent warrant Taylor in this report Our automobile adjusted a corner the names of the streets are unknown to me with from Houston on Dale Yeah, I heard a bang which sounded to me like a possible firecracker this sound coming from my right rear Out of the corner of my eye and off slightly to the right rear of our car I notice what now seems to me might have been a short piece of streamer flying in the air Close to the ground and due to the confusion of the moment. I thought it was a firecracker going off It of course we also know I just want to say that you know what Brunson is doing is she's following the documentation that she's seeing You know and the Warren commission exhibits, you know The 26 volumes, you know, which she just completely Analyze and dissected, you know, and that's why it is so impressive You know about what Brunson and Mary Wilson did where you know, they're starting to bring out some details That are not explainable Jim and some of the stuff here is just you know mind-boggling Okay, so even Roy Kalman here the next uh, and this is in the Warren commission here It as I explained in the Great Super Theater film folks Jim Lewis has been going through junk yards in the South firing high powered rifles through windshields to see Right Hitting dummy in the back and found that it not only creates a small white spiral nebula in the windshield But creates also the sound of a firecracker Think of service agent Roy Kalman who is right shotgun and James limousine described what he heard as they turned on down street Mr. Kalman This noise which I attribute as a firecracker when this occurred and I'm in the process of determining where it comes From me meant because I am sure it came off my right rear somewhere the voice broke in right then Was a streamer thrown from the second or third floor of the book depository Brunson pointed out the strange open mouth reactions of this gentleman who's attention Seems to have been drawn to something above street level Which was happening in the direction of the second or third floor of the book depository He seemed to have been pointing this out to the woman in the dark business who cried in front of him And all June 6th happened to catch her in the process of turning leftward to see what he was so freaked out about Is it possible that someone through one of the streamers from a window of the second or third floor This would have been the perfect place to throw from to avoid detention as opposed to throwing from the open and crowded street I want to draw your attention to one more thing in the options photograph There's a man standing on the curb in the far right top end of the picture of his obviously looking up into the air open mouths And seems in fact to be pointing out something to the woman Standing in front of him with her back to the camera. This man is not looking up at the six floor He was looking into the air Over the vice president's car about the level of the second or third floor no higher He was either seen something happened in the air over the VP card Or in a lower window of the Tspd and it is startling enough to cause his mouth to drop open and to cause him to lift his right arm And call the woman's attention to it also one of the women in the Daltex window Just in the right of the projecting armor object is looking into the air Yeah Sorry Is looking is looking into the air at about the same position what have they seen in the air Additionally a woman on the second floor the book depository said the second floor window shook I suggested it could very well mean that a large torpedo exploded in the air in front of those windows Pilot shots Why use firecrackers and streamers when might ask these according to Bronson would have been used to divert attention away from what really did the damage that day Silence quabbits I carefully studying the router film still frames Bronson determined shots could be detected at So Bruder frames z2 27 and z2 34 Where Kennedy and calmly were reacting independently of each other to be struck by different bullets And of course already that's indicative of at least two shooters right there Right, but you come on this information with Weisberg discovery that been a shot prior to 3 210 Perhaps as early as c189 She's able to ascertain that silence weapons were the only means of achieving this And indeed all the weapons appeared have been silenced except for the Now next to Mandeliker Carnot be enfired from the Dow text by That's right. Yeah, here's that Massacre Tony and Skade are under the supervision of George H. W. Bush The only problem with their witnesses she wrote was that most of them heard one shot Followed by the long interruption in between she detected reactions from Kennedy and calmly That were out of sync with those reported gunshots In other words, we are faced with the astounding evidence that the shot that hit President Kennedy and frame 227 and the shot that hit Governor Conley 234 two shots We're not heard by the overwhelming majority of witnesses including even those who heard More than three shots. They said over and over again. There was a long pause after the first shot That it is is nothing short of amazing to me. I do not hear shots were fired nor that other shots were heard I simply can't either ignore the fact that two shots and which occurred precisely that long pause After the first shot it seems you're a funable to me used in the assassination. I think there's parts missing that's Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes Some witnesses were definite that they did not hear rifle sounds They thought they heard firecrackers torpedoes dumb balls backfires and blowouts Others were certainly heard rifle shots when man who heard rifle shots even remarked the shots didn't hang in the air long enough to be a rifle These discrepancies might be explained by assuming that the sound of exploding firecrackers for shots Was immediately followed by the sound of a silencer Someone has this heard the wand some heard both the primary and the secondary sounds governor Conley for instance heard one shot from a rifle before he was hit when he should have heard two shots precisely what you're talking about with those windshield impacts Jim Yeah, she this is just brilliant work for someone operating under such crude and awkward circumstances. Oh, yeah Absolutely, absolutely. That's why we have yeah We have to cite her very very powerful mind Another thing there was too much attention drawn to rifles in this case and much of it before the assassination Specifically the events at the sports drone rifle range There there was absolutely no attempt to incriminate Oswald and the lone gunman with a man liquor carcano instead Attention was drawn to men one of whom resemble dogs well with rifles Orderized rifles rifles pass over the fence etc. Rifles rifles rifles But if the attempt had been primarily to incriminate Oswald whose name could have been left on the register at the range As Mrs. Davis makes square in her testimony if the plan was primarily to draw attention to rifles It's exceeded There was the man with a where was the man with a silencer? What would have been the advantage of a silencer when shots were loudly going off on the knoll and up toward the corner of Mal and Houston I didn't mean to suggest in my last letter that a man in the Dow tax building couldn't have hit Kennedy Of course he could have but the assassin firing from the Texas School like the Pository and one in the Dow tax should have fired as the motorcat Turned the corner the present was a much better target for them than then he was for three men Down by the stem and sign anyone who seen the FBI reenactment photos to this go And his fire to rifle will tell you that they wouldn't have fired them They could have got him the fact that they didn't get him then When they could have got him makes me doubt the rifles were seriously involved in those buildings No, she's misunderstanding they wanted to get him deeply into the kill zone where he was the target for multiple locations Not really those that could have hit him at that point in time These excellent passages by Brunson required no further analysis as they more than adequately establish or argue No turner who of course was with the FBI article in the minute minute in the January ramparts quotes a minute manual on silencers The advantages of God which makes no sound would fire her obvious Yes indeed in right wing activist and clean the CIA Love and use these gimmicks. We have no right to assume that the intent That the latest and best could not have been used on the man they hated most the use of a silencer on the president Farlus fantastic then cyanide in the air conditioning system of the United Nations And much easier to get away with and only took about eight seconds You could do it at the dinner table You will be internal zarticle and ramparts A minute been the spirit of 66 What is quite obvious here is that Brunson believed that the only rifle that was actually fired that day is a one which would incriminate Oswell the man liquor condo that was found on the sixth floor of the book depository that concerted efforts Were made to draw attention to rifles to make sure any other weapon use really excluded rooms. It's a special well Esqued arrow was using a man liquor carcano and I believe those that switch made between his weapon and the one found in the book depository when they moved all the evidence to washing the DC It would be a painfully ironic if we have spent three years searching for rifles when the murderous pistol are sat under our very noses I don't insist it is so of course. I'm interested in the truth about my own theories And I've become more and more convinced that the assassin's pulled a fastwood on us And that we can discover it mold the ground out from under them for In spite of the fact that they have got away with it for three years my goodness three years now it's over 50 They are very smart there are two sets of elephant tracks in this case one real in one falls The false conspiracy in the real conspiracy in the false conspiracy which was amazingly bold Is also amazingly obvious they created the false Oswald prior to the assassination and since you discovered him I believe they have not slept well the false Oswald was a mistake Maybe they made another big mistake thinking they could kill the president with a gimmick and get away with it Unbelievable stuff, huh? Yeah great stuff Larry love it. She was a wonderful person I just want to give my all I already adore her Yeah Just to say and there's more you know, I just wanted to give our audience a little taste You know of it that is a I believe a almost 90 page chapter Okay, and we only touched you know a couple of the concepts here of Beverly and I wanted to mention that In my research I contacted the backstreet springs historical society Back about four years ago And I spoke to some of the people there and they they were not aware of Beverly's research and and her activism in the Jeff K case And they they wanted me to provide them with all these documents so that they could create a special area at the museum to present to the citizens there in the backstreet springs what Beverly had accomplished and I thought it was so Yeah, I was so proud you know when that when that happened, you know and and you know Again, you know, it's something that I'm very grateful that her wife's bird had the foresight to do what he did you know like like he said you know He didn't believe in photographic operation And Beverly did and she Again, you and right and he was wrong. He was right and she is that's why she's the queen and Connie of the Jeff K assassination case. All right, we have a few minutes free could you show us the book the cover of your book Sure, so we can get a sense of it or did you want me to read this additional passage? No, no, it's okay We'll look at the the table of contents maybe sure good. That's a great idea, you know and It's in the cover front back. Yeah, here we go I'll go back to Yeah, yeah, here we go Here you go Jeff K horseman now available Jeff K horseman is finally available at moonrock books I wish to thank Jim Fatser and Dave Gehary for making this project a reality It is the result of six years of nonstop research which I hope will offer students of the case both new and old and inside into the Jeff K assassination never before seen with extensive use of computer imaging and 3d technology The Stalin layout also defies convention by offering the reader images of the actual documents cited and key discussions Throughout the book this way the reader does not have to waste time going back to look at appendices or chase down the actual sources This new approach allows one to fully appreciate the cited researchers frame of mind as it pertains to the presentation at hand excellent excellent Yeah, there is uh, yeah, I've shared that with a couple of other scholars I'm not going to mention right now and they have found that to be an excellent Move you know and strategy to provide the reader with the actual documents as you have seen there with the Beverly Brunson chapter Where we're actually presenting you know and we're not we're not foot noting you know and then having to go back You know and okay, let me go find this source and whatever you know so It's really it's brilliant Yeah, so this is a table of contents and uh, you know it goes From and I you know Jim and I Jim actually was the one who organized this and you know maybe he can Sure just sketch through it right Contents preface part one the Alchins photographs chapter one the Alchins photographic timeline chapter two the Jaggers child stove connection Part two the man in the doorway Chapter three lady by the doorway chapter four the untold story of Joe Molina chapter five Roy Edward Lewis and Alchins six chapter six Love lady revisited Andrew's Air Force base the fugitive chapter seven HSC activities of Kenneth Bruton and Robert Grouda chapter eight The man in the doorway identified chapter nine the travails of the rust colored shirt chapter 10 Why was Buel Wesley Frazier erased from all June six 11 who was in the Texas school look Depository doorway the patsys part three framing Lee Harvey Oswald chapter 12 the sinister roller bill backer chapter 13 the cab ride that never happened Chapter 14 the chicaneery of Joseph ball chapter 15 Wayland's blunder chapter 16 the backyard photographs Part four Dealy Plaza in Dallas chapter 17 crossfire and Dealy Plaza reexamined the shot from the front chapter 18 zeroing in on JFK's fatal headshot Part seven quay okay in the JFK horsemen chapter 19 the forgotten research of Beverly Brunsett chapter 20 the JFK horsemen That's it So well, there's in it. There's in there's an index of course Larry. I mean yeah Yeah, well, I don't have it published here, but yeah, it's You know, I'll show us the back cover and just comment it on ever so briefly. Oh, it's okay. That'll be over here on moonrock books Let's go to the you guys see this here. Yeah, we got one wrong. Yes, we can Okay Books You don't have to uh, here you go There's a back cover very good Yeah, thanks We use the uh the blender just here. Yeah, and like you know, like Jim said blender is a very important component, you know, of this work and It's it's you know, it's something that is cutting edge never been done before and I hope that others follow in You know the initiative that I have started here, you know, creating a three-dimensional A model of Dele plaza and all the objects that are involved, you know by following what I've said before Reference images and by using reference reference images and Robert Cutler's map, which we've talked about many times, you know and other Shows Robert Cutler who was the architect who created that schematic representation of Plaza back before Dele plaza was altered okay and In that way we can use it use the reference images such as the alternate six and some of the Is the prudence frames such as a 255 and create this three-dimensional Representation and then go and and look at trajectories and and study exactly what what happened there at Dele plaza This is a fine-looking cover why don't I read the back thanks to Larry Rivera? We finally know how and why all jen six was altered After recovering misplaced interviews of the four JFK horsemen by Fred Newcombe a first-generation student of JFK Larry discovered Not only that all four confirmed the limo stop but that officer hargess had barked his mic and it run between the Presidential Lincoln and the secret service Cadillac up toward the grassy knoll from which he believed shots have been fired Officer Jackson motored his bike up the grassy knoll until it fell over and then proceeded on foot and Search of the shooters at the same time click he'll rust forward and wish Jackie back into the car from the trunk Where she had climbed after a chunk of JFK skull and brains five secret service agents surrounded the Lincoln One taking a piece of skull from a little boy and tossing it into the back seat These discoveries have thereby revolutionized our understanding of the extent to which the films of the assassination Specifically the Zapruder and the next have been edited to remove the limo stop No serious student of JFK will want to miss this book Larry Rivera has proven his genius at research on the death of our 35th president Jim Fetzer The HD I just want to thank you Jim you know for the opportunity and dig a harry and but I think the The key to all this were the newcom tapes Okay, yeah, yeah And and you know because you and Gary have been part of this you know since we first started to work on this in 2014 and it took me on what I don't six or seven months, you know to transcribe those tapes And I and I can't you know say enough about Tyler newcom, you know for you know making those available to me obviously his father Was not aware of the importance of what was said in those tapes and You know just I just I can't thank you guys enough because I remember in 2014 We uh that we drove from New Orleans to Dallas and we we could stop talking about that remember Yes, yeah, yeah Well, I bet let me just stand by way of including our Show this evening that this book contains so much new and original research that is going to be an indelible landmark in JFK research and establish your reputation for doing completely novel work uh innovative approaches that have had a fantastic payoff and deepened and brought in our understanding of the assassination of John F. Kennedy For which I just want to compliment you in the highest possible terms Larry you're doing great work Thank you And you guys were part of it because you guys went with me down to Dallas to Dilly Plaza and we did field work together You know and those are those are days uh, you know that I'm never gonna forget you know I remember Gary and I walking together Uh over on Beckley, you know To trace Leozwell steps, you know step by step You know to see if the timing Who responded, you know with uh, you know when the cab would be supposed to cab ride, you know drop them off at a certain point You know over there. I'm Beckley and then walking back, you know And then going to the Texas School uh theater and going in there actually by and popcorn, you know And so you know a lot of a lot of things a lot of things Yeah, Larry I know you're a modest fellow but go ahead and tell us about how you get notifications of your book Be insiders from academia around the world Well Well, then it's just uh papers that I've uploaded to academia.edu that other scholars, you know around the world have been citing and Specifically the man in the doorway identifying Crossfire and Lily Plaza and the uh shot From the front okay Following David Mantix research and his book also and And you know, I you know, I've been getting a lot of emails and and An information that other authors are citing, you know that research and you know, it's very very humbling to know Well, you're richly deserved Larry you're doing a terrific job Yeah, the cutting edge of JFK research we've done 205 shows now and uh sad to say that a lot of this research is uh being suppressed in the JFK so Yeah, our JFK horseman videos carry in on YouTube. What happened to those? Uh, we're getting them all back up. I'm actually talking to David moonrock books and those guys are planning on coming down to New Orleans in October and I was seeing if we might get a hook up with them all they want to do some um USS Liberty Um a one-day event with Phil Nelson so I was great guy getting the saw together that at that time So all right, we'll put it on the burner and we'll think about it and we'll see what happens So I got the fencer as always Larry Rivera you are the man and I'll say it once again When it comes to new JFK research nobody to be slayer of error And this is the book that just blows the case out the water especially the new com tapes where these men Independently talk about how the limo stops so fellas I'm really honored to be with you guys and I think we're really making headway these days. I really do all right New JFK show 205. We'll see you next week All right