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Published on Mar 14, 2019

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The questions you always have, the answers you were never given, the place to seek the truth. Welcome to their test. And tonight we'll discuss the latest false flag operations around the world. False flag operations are covert and manipulative, playing off our fears and anxiety. So how can we identify them? We'll also discuss the most notorious deaths and the motivations behind them, as well as the most relevant geopolitical news, so buckle up. Greetings, Suburhost Malfabragus. And if you're new to the very test family, welcome home. To listen to tonight's full interview and all of our material, just click on the subscribe button. And don't forget to visit the very test store for MMS, Hempoil, Pure Organic Self-Fur, and much more. And if you want to get in touch with me, or to be a guest on this radio program, have a guest suggestion or have feedback. Just click on the contact button of our website at variedtasradio.com. And to shine a bright light on conspiracies, tonight's special guest is Veritas veteran, Only Demigard. An award-winning author, investigator, musician, artist, painter, former journalist, and much more. For more than 20 years, he has worked very hard to expose some of the biggest conspiracies around the globe, something that has turned out to be very dangerous. His website is lightonconspiracies.com. And he just returned from Acapulco, and the very popular Anarcapulco conference. Hello, only and welcome back to Veritas, how are you? I'm super good, thank you, Mel, and thank you for having me back on the show. Always, always a pleasure. And you're now we're just discussing before we started. And I'm very curious, let's begin with this. You just came back from Acapulco on the very popular conference. Anarcapulco, I've never been, I've been to Acapulco many times, not to the conference. And I couldn't believe the amount of people that you saw there. So why don't you just give us a synopsis of what you experienced. Well, for me, it was super, super impressive. I mean, I've been touring now in 15 different countries, but I've never been. It's the first time I was invited to Mexico. It was the fifth year that this conference took place. And I was just amazed because more or less everywhere I go in whatever country it is, the people who arrange it have problems gathering an audience, at least the paying audience that can help to fund, you know, organizing the whole thing, renting the places, the equipment and so on. So it's very hard to start getting a momentum. I think the only one, the only researchers that I know that really are pulling an audience is David Ike when he moves around. But otherwise, the rest of us, we are in the same position more or less. So to come to Mexico in Acapulco that has sort of a bad rap because of the alleged violence, I thought it was amazing to see there was somewhere between two and a half to three thousand people that had flown in from all over the world. I mean, I met people that had flown in from Vietnam, from China, from the States, from Canada, from all different European countries, Iceland. I mean, it was just amazing. And I was fortunate enough to perform on the main stage. There was 1,800 chairs in that room. That is a lot more than I've ever been in front of. But the main impact, emotionally impact on me was not so much what happened on the stages. I don't know how many speakers, but there was a lot, including Ron Paul, G. Edward Griffin, Mark Pasio, David Ike, I mean, George Napolitano was supposed to be there, but he backed out, Cynthia McKinney, but she was from Bangladesh. But she was with us via Skype. But there were many, many super speakers there. I mentioned before, the real impact on me was all these people that came to this place because this is a luxury hotel. I mean, beautiful, beautiful place. And the people that arranged this had rented the whole place, the whole hotel with, I think, three different buildings, swimming pools, and you name it. As far as I know, the whole thing was rented for this event. And to do a thing like that and pull it off, I just thought it was mind blowing. So all the people I met were people that had paid for the flights, long flights, paid for the entrance, which was expensive, I think. I don't know what it was, but I mean, I think it was quite a lot. And still, so many people came. All of them, so devoted to be part of creating something much more beautiful than we experienced now. So for me, it was a really, really big experience. I got home, I was so empowered by the whole thing. And now it's wonderful, wonderful. It's great to hear. David Eich, David Eich, you mentioned, as you know, he was banned from Australia. Is that still the case? I don't know, as far as I know, but he went straight from a Kapulko to Los Angeles to change planes to go to, I think Melbourne or Sydney. And that's where they canceled his visa just four hours before. I mean, this is, this is, I mean, really, it's, have you been, I think he's been there 15 times. And now they just pull it right before he, the whole tour starts when all the different venues are rented, hotel rooms, everything is arranged, which really makes, you know, him, it puts him in a very difficult situation. So I think very, very sophisticated and with a bad intent that they shot him down like this. Let's discuss this. Let's discuss this because I'm no David Eich. I love his work. But this is, there's something happening all over the world. I have been censored in the past few weeks. Google, our hosting company, we prevailed in that battle. But then one of our companies that charges for our subscriptions, cancel does all of a sudden. So they're trying to just break us for livelihoods, our bloodstreams, if you will. David Eich not being allowed in Australia. This is happening everywhere. There is a concerted effort to silence free speech and the truth. I mean, we have political correctness here in the United States. But to me, that's nothing but a way to silence people. What do you think is happening? Is the media getting concerned? Is the propaganda machine? Do you think the powers that want to be are getting concerned up people? People are finally listening. They used to hear us. Now they're listening to us. If you ask me, that's a big, big yes. I mean, there's no need for them to censure us if they did not fear us. And now they're doing it in the most horrific ugly, so openly way that, I mean, you have to be blind not to see it. I mean, you're talking about YouTube being shut up. Like, I don't know how many, I've done between 500 and 1000 interviews. I don't know how many of them that have now been shut down, especially the ones about four slides. They have been shut down. Normally within 24 to 48 hours, boom, they're gone. So it's going to be interesting to see how long this is going to be left up there. My own YouTube channel has been shut down, totally deleted. You know, just boom, it was gone. Hundreds and hundreds of videos up there. Also, my website was totally destroyed. I've got a massive website. It's called Light on Conspiracies.com. And it's just really, really big. And one of the reasons why it's so big is that I invite people in that are getting shut down other places to come in on the sort of our umbrella and sort of being protected there when they get shut down elsewhere. But then we hosted on GoDaddy, which I've been using for at least 20 years. And it's always been super good. And then one day I started having problems with my email. And so I contacted the support and said, listen, what's going on? Because I've checked everything. And I'm a web designer program. And that's one of my backgrounds. So I checked all the codes. Everything was perfect. I contacted the support, which is they're always very good at the support. I've always been to me at least. And this woman said, well, the only thing I can see, everything seems to be working. And it's not in your computer. So it must be somewhere here. The only option I can see is that you delete some of the stuff you've got on the server because you're filling up the space. And I said, but listen, we're paying for unlimited space. So I'm not sure what part of unlimited that we have to take away. Well, she said it's up to red here on our measure, whatever they use. And she said, try and delete some of it and see, hopefully that will get the email working again. So I said, OK, I thought it sounded strange because we paid for unlimited space. But anyway, so I contacted my webmaster. And together we checked the server to see if there were files that we could delete to see if we could get this working again. And then there was this folder on the server that said the partial backup 2017. And I said to my webmaster, what is that one? I haven't seen that one before. Have you left that there? He said, no, I don't seem to remember it, but maybe. I mean, we've done a lot of things. So I don't know. Maybe maybe it's well, anyway. So on the server, there's this program that guides you sort of like if you make a mouse over it says these files are not used, please delete or these sub files aren't used, do not touch. So we just followed the program. And on that folder, it's a files not in use, please delete it said exactly please delete. So my webmaster said, you want to get rid of it? Yes, I said, yeah, please do. So he clicked it and boom, it was like pressing the button to a bomb. The whole website just disappeared in front of our eyes. All of it just boom. And I mean, he was so shocked, my webmaster, that he just fell down to the floor and puked. It was such because we put so many years into this. Did you have a backup and a local server? So we contacted Google, no, sorry, go daddy again. We said, what happened here? You know, you don't know you pressed the button. So we don't know what happened. And I said, but for sure, you must have a backup. And she said, yes, we do have backups, of course. But it's like $280 to re-install it. And I said, OK, $280, we followed your instruction. We pressed one button. And the thing that should not could not happen just happened in front of our eyes. And she said, well, that's the only option. So we paid $280 and they re-installed it. And the version we got was from October 2017, which was more than a year old, meaning a whole year's work was gone. So anyway, so I hired this guy, a team of three, and they worked for six weeks, six weeks to get this website up and running again. Because this website had been booby trapped, ambushed, and nuked, fried. Because the database that is supposed to be like maybe a couple of thousand lines of codes in total, that it was 2.2 billion lines of code. And every time we tried to extract stuff from it, it just exploded in our face again. So it was really booby trapped. And so I had people in Panama, and India, and Germany helping me to try and re-get it back up. Because all, once we started getting it back up, all the links to the images, to videos, to all of that were destroyed. At the same time, boom, our YouTube channel was destroyed. And our PayPal account started filtering money disappeared all over the place. The code of the buttons, you know, the PayPal buttons were changed. And it was like, it was only because people told me that it's not working. Because I mean, how can code change? It cannot. But somebody had been in and manually changed the code so that they didn't work. So I mean, it was six weeks. That is a long time when you're sitting on a website this size, and with so many followers, and also membership, you know, and people. But people were so fantastic, you know, and instead of them leaving us and discerning my passion for truth, they backed me up instead. So they helped me pay the team that sorted this whole thing out. But I can tell you censorship that is it. Also, I got fake Twitter accounts in my name that are where the Twitter accounts is with my photo. It's everything looks like it was me, but it's the count itself is trying to destroy my reputation, you know, showing me going way back when I did web design that these clients does not exist and this and that and this. And also I got the on Facebook that post being posted by me, I can see it's my account that opposed to them, but it's not me. And then these posts gets flagged and I get shot down. Do you see so there's a real very direct maneuver to destroy people like myself? It's incredible. It's incredible that this is happening. Well, actually it's not incredible. I don't doubt that this is going to happen. You can read 1984 and brave New World. You know that truth is going to be censored in the future. But in our case also, first it was Google and they sent us a letter stating you have social engineering content on your website, which you need to remove. And I said, well, what on you submit what it is that you want us to remove. So they submitted a simple Excel spreadsheet, which was empty. Then nothing. Then a week later our hosting company said we have been contacted by several companies saying that you have social engineering content. And I'm thinking what a bunch of hypocrites Google. They are the ones that are engineering our minds with their search engines. So I went back to them with the same thing. Tell me what it is that is infringing, fringing upon the terms of agreement. Nothing. Well, anyway, as I said, we prevailed. Then it was stripe. We like to give people an additional option other than PayPal. Some people don't like PayPal, but they have always been good to us. So it was stripe. And they came out saying, you are a high risk. You are engaging in list activities. And those activities showed illegal drug trading, sexual trafficking, and a bunch of other things. And we went to them and I said, this is ridiculous. But once they shut the door, they don't even respond to emails. And even if I go to an attorney, my attorney said, read the terms of agreement. It's such a blanket statement that they could actually refuse service to a nun or a priest for just praying to the Lord, if you will. It's vicious. But the way I see it, I just think, okay, great. That just shows I'm on track. I'm right over target. Otherwise, I wouldn't receive incoming fire. But it's quite horrendous. You have to really be balanced inside and in a good space to be able to handle these things. I was on project Kamalot. I mean, that is quite a big platform. And about four flags once again. And she got two warnings because of interviews with me. And then a third one because of one I did together with Fetzer, Jim Fetzer. Warnings from home. Sorry. For warnings from home. From YouTube. YouTube, I believe, YouTube, I believe it was that they were going to shut down her hold. I mean, just deleted. And so she got lawyers involved and started fighting them. And I think they backed off. But it's really brutal at the moment. Do you think, Olay, that this has to do, and I don't mean to bring people to light here or give them free advertising. But you know, Alex Jones. He was a very first one in my opinion where he had, he started being censored. And I think, and I don't mean to get political here, folks. But I just have to tell you the truth. It seems that a lot of people during the last elections in the United States, forgot to watch the news. They just didn't care about it. And they were listening elsewhere. Do you think that they just want to be able to control the narrative in such a way that anybody else that speaks the truth has to be silenced? I normally don't badmouth people, but Alex Jones, I trust about 0%. No, I get that. I get that. But I see him as... Yeah. They made sort of a case around him as I'm not really sure how, but to sort of... entrap the rest of us in that. Exactly. That's my point. A president. Yeah. I don't know really what game they're playing, but that's what they're doing. I think also because he was coming to a point where he was going to be exposed to really big. And so they turned it around and fired it back at us. I don't understand how I just know that I'll deeply believe that this is what is going on. Because many shows like STT, report and stuff, they really want me back on, but they don't dare because they get shut down. And it's not big... I mean, I'm not into politics or anything. It's when I talk about false flags, how they're used, the templates that are being used, also because I've been able to publicly predict 15 now, up to two months before they happen. 15 of these alleged terror attacks. So one of the things I do in many interviews is show how is it possible that I've been able to do this? Is it because I'm super intelligent, I think not, or I've got a crystal ball, no Tom Poco. But it is because I have found that they actually leave hidden clues in the forensic evidence. I was told that by an insider in the fall of 2014, and at that time I had no idea what he was on about. But after he told me that I was doing good, but I missed out on the clues, I started looking for them. And once I saw that, oh my God, he was actually right. That is when I started, as soon as something happened, boom, I look for the clues. I don't look at the official story or all of these things. I'm looking for the clues for the next upcoming one. And I managed to understand to quite a good extent, at least I think, so what to look for. And thus I've been able to predict all of these ones. So I tell you, the whole thing is how have an individual been able to predict these terror attacks, if they were separate things, including my shootings, if they were separate events, if they were not carried out by the same force, how is that possible? And if so, why have I not been interrogated as someone with inside knowledge, because how have I been able to do this? Or if these agencies that are there to protect us officially, and are investigating officially these crimes, alleged crimes, why have they not contacted me and said, listen, you must know something. We don't please help us, but not a single word, not nothing except being shot down, which I interpret totally is that they're so part of this whole thing, the ones that are there officially to protect us. They are the ones doing it to us. This is one of those questions that I never, never occurred for me to ask you, but now I am. If you predicted all these false-flag events and shootings and so on, you haven't been contacted by the Interpol, or if you were in the United States by the Secret Service, nobody has ever contacted you? Nope, but Mel, then you could say, well, maybe they never heard of you. When I tell you, in WordPress, my website is in WordPress, and there's all of these statistics, you can check the traffic, the bandwidth used, and who's visiting the site by the IP addresses. I mean, it's like a spy program, but nowadays used by everyone. When we installed the website again, we just checked to just see the amount of traffic, and there were especially three visitors that just skyrocketed, because normally it's like maybe three visits or six or eight or 20 or something like that. Here, there were in the thousands, so we checked the IP address. One of them went straight to Kyrgyzolman in Stockholm, that's Serpo, that's the headquarters of the Swedish police, and the Secret Police in Sweden. That's exactly there. Boom. The second one was exactly where the MI6 headquarters in London is, and the third one was NSA, Go Figure. So it's not that they're not aware of what I'm doing. So once again, why the silence? You mentioned Sweden, and while we were discussing doing another interview, you mentioned that today's date coincides with, is it all of Holmes' death? Death, death, was it? I tell you, Mel, it is 11, 23, Friday night on the 28th of February, and this is the exact minute when he was allegedly murdered. So it is a very historical minute. We're going to ask. Would I just ask you that question right now? Yeah, it's the exact time. It is the exact time. Now, for those people who are listening to us who may not know the connection, did you leave Sweden or were compelled to leave Sweden because of your investigation into the murder of former Prime Minister of Paul? It was a major reason why we left, and we left quite urgently, because I had two friends. I spent 12 years looking into this assassination very deeply, and I was involved in a group called the private, what would you call them, private detectives, but it was like we were being made fun of in media everywhere. It was just a group of very concerned citizens, mostly elder men, former police officers, lawyers, custom officers, and so on, that had these private meetings trying to find out what the hell happened to Sweden, because it was very clear after just a year down the line that this assassination in Sweden, the first ever of its kind, was not being investigated at all, at all. And yet, it is the world's most expensive murder investigation of all times. It is still after it happened in February 86, so it's like what is it 33 years ago, exactly now. And to this very day, they have found zero. I mean, it's the Patsy, the Patsy, the Patsy, or nothing. And I've written a book, almost a thousand pages, called Kudita in Slow Motion. Kudita in Slow Motion. And the reason for the title is that it was a Kudita, but in Slow Motion, it was boom, the shots were fired, and then slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly. So nobody really noticed what happened. These forces took over. The thing is, because if you make a Kudita, for instance, if you look historically in South America and so on, the military can very easily take over. They just kill the President boom, they take over. But from that day, they have a problem with the population. You know, you have demonstrations, you have guerrilla movements, you have all kind of underground activities, you've got the so-called terror activities, bombings, whatever. Are people that are furious about what just occurred? So the military or the new rulers, they've had to fill stadiums and kill thousands of people and torture them and whatever. So not very clever. The way to do it is a sigh out. You boom, and then slowly, slowly stepping stone. So people don't really see any connections to what happened, but slowly, slowly moving the whole country into a totally different state. And when I go to Sweden now, I mean, I grew up there. I was born and then I grew up in Sweden. I feel like a foreigner. I'm lost. It's like a different country. It's so much harder, so much more right wing, so much more violent, so much. I don't recognize it at all. Sweden is right winging. Really? I mean, the feeling there is getting colder and colder, where it used to be. I mean, the reputation of Sweden is, you know, the perfect white island taking care of the poor and so on. It's not the way I see it now. But yet again, Sweden is on the heavy, heavy attack at the moment. And most people are not even aware of it because they're trying to force Sweden into NATO, which in my opinion Sweden has been a member of NATO since 1954, but officially they're still out. But they're worked hand in hand with NATO ever since 54. And but now they're trying to to free the population out with all of this fear of the Russian threat. And so to get Sweden in under the umbrella so that they will join NATO as well. But NATO has turned from what was first created as a defense mechanism into this territory that is just doing horrific stuff. I'm very ashamed to say that Denmark was one of the founding members and have been at war for 17 years in different wars that had nothing to do with Denmark whatsoever. So it's very tragic to see all of these young people signing up, trying to, well, doing what they believe is the correct thing to do to go out in the world and liberate them. But it's the exact opposite. It's rape, death and plunder. That is what it's all about in the name of the greed of the few, you know, the new world order, not countries, not that is that little elite that are just very mercilessly just brutally slaughtering population after population for their own greed. I read an article today saying that some of the men and women who are listening and listening in the military in the United States were not even born when these war, I call it the war for terror, the war on terror began in 2001. So these kids were not even here when this whole started how long are we going to perpetuate these eternal wars that seen no end. The enemy does not have clothes or uniforms. It's the perfect, perfect conflict for the military and national complex. It's the war out there is there's no enemy, there's no visible enemies, they can keep it going on for as long as they want forever and ever if we don't wake up. The thing is if you look at it, I mean, I'm looked into hundreds of so called terror attacks and to this day, Mel, I tell you, I am not sure I'm encountered one real terrorist. I mean, that sounds very bizarre, but I should be a super expert on especially Muslim terrorists. I have not encountered one single one. What I have encountered is state sponsored terrorism, gladio attacks NATO, the US military with private contractors as well involved and then the CIA, Mossad and MI6 hand in hand in bed with each other in the back. So, but all the time being blamed on whatever current Boogaman they're using. I mean, it used to be the Russians, then it was the Bulgarians, East Germans in the Cold War, then the war went down. Oh my god, what are we going to do now? We are very close to world peace. We can't have that. So they tried to with the with the threat from outer space didn't really work. And then somebody came up with the idea that Muslim terrorists welcome in on the stage, or whatever, because they were perfect in media, dark eyes, big eyebrows, big mustache, very weird names and they come from countries that most people at least in the states have no idea where they even are. And also with the religion and now they weaponize nice the words Muslim and Islam and Quran so that you just have to mention the word Muslim and people their brain was a terrorist. You say, Muhammad, oh my god, terrorist, you say Islam, oh my god, Gihard and bombs, that is what people here. But that is absolutely not true, not as far as I know. And more than 50 countries, many of them Arab countries in the Middle East. And I tell you the country that is the most bizarre because most of the time I've just met beautiful people in very difficult situation many times, the poorer, the more generous and kind and loving. I mean, absolutely amazing people most of the time except. And the portion of the interview has been removed in order for this video to remain on YouTube to listen to the unedited version of this interview follow the link on the description. And that is one strange place where I would say it's like South African a part high but in a modern version it is it is on real what is going on there. And also you will see that the part not the people but the powers behind are so central in so much of these alleged terror attacks here. It is it's their templates that are being used, you know, and this is what we're seeing big time all according to the CIA strategy of tension how to inflict fear into modern society. Scare the living be Jesus out of the normal person in the street random violence it has to be random because it will otherwise it won't affect so many. And all of it is according to the old Roman template as well problem reaction solution the few empower secretly created problem to get the reaction from the population. The reaction they're looking for is an emotional outcry of fear so that we don't think we just go into oh my god oh my god and then we the normal person turn towards the people we think are there to protect us not understanding that it's actually them who have created the problem problem reaction solution and the solution is every single time something we would never ever have accepted had a not been for the problem. And also the solution every single time is the same more more militarized police more more surveillance more more cameras more more body scanners backscarters on just wars higher taxes. All of these things you know there's never any money for homeless people or for war veterans or for schools or education or you know old people's home hospitals you name it mental institutions no money very sorry we don't have. But if you want surveillance cameras or satellite the iris recognition whatever it's only 4.4 billion dollars each well let's take 16 of them while you're at it. So I would suggest we are being played big big big time here and also look at the world today if if I'm correct and what we are seeing all of this claim terrorism are all based on lies at least to maybe 95% or something like that including most of the mass shootings. If that is our lies then see all of these risk which has been the solution to all of these problems all of that security all of this militarization of the police forces all of these. So you name it how how the world has changed especially from 2001 and forward it's it's a totally different planet we're living on and it's more or less all based on pure lies. It's interesting that the last probably 3 or 4 minutes of your words are probably going to cost us to get this video shut down because when you use the word or the word. So folks we're just trying to get to the truth that we don't hate anybody we just want to as all as all this says we're shining a light on the conspiracies but just funny story years ago before I even started this program I had two books that I really enjoyed by the author of Victor Ostrovsky you probably know what I'm talking about by way of deception the making of an unmasking of officer and it tells you everything. So years ago I found the German he's a phoenix he has a gallery and I try to get a hold of them well he was supposed to get in touch with me on a certain date and the next day when I call they say well actually he left on vacation for a full week now unexpectedly and he never return phone calls I guess he doesn't want to talk about this I don't know what had had done I don't know this is this information bug that he wrote but you mentioned something interesting to you said. That we tried the threat from outer space and it didn't work do you think they've tried that or is that something yet to be tested on the population because I haven't really seen it yet. Not that the race was I know and it didn't really work then but I've been preparing it through movies and all kinds of stuff for years preparations preparation preparation preparation preparation and now with with all the chem trails and the heart thing where they can start doing things. Visual things in the sky as well I mean who knows what they're going to do but you know the thing is it comes down to how can an elite few or they call themselves the elite I've got a lot of words that it's not that flattering but if you look at the old Roman Empire which is very symbolic for what's going on now as well. You have you had a very little group of people in Rome and a massive massive massive empire this was way before telephone or internet or even mail so how could they control all of these countries all of these thousands of people thousands of miles away it's only through deception and it's only through fear that's the only way they could do it and with an outer enemy. It's always an outer enemy a boogeyman so that they can come and protect you it's just like the mafia same methods and we see the exact same thing here where they're trying to make us they they need us fearful that's why they pomp us with this massive propaganda machine that is called mainstream media now to keep us in fear it's just fear fear fear fear fear all the time all the time all the time to keep us on our knees with our head bent down and and buried in debt so that we can't even breathe and start looking around and see who hey wait a second I'm this looks strange that's where they want to with a boot on top of our head but the thing is if we liberate ourselves because we can do that because fear is only in the mind you know it's like the mind can only think one thought of a time at a time and we decide which thoughts we give power you know through meditation so you can free yourself so that you liberate yourself from the inside then once you free inside you can start looking at the world with free choices even if you're inside of a prison with bars around you and walls you can still liberate your mind and this is what they fear because if you liberate yourself you let go of fear Oh my god then you suddenly you become a powerful individual and that is what they have. They are so terrified of us understanding our own power that we can do this so this is why they try is like being up against Mike Tyson is like Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do measure measuring terror type blah blah blah blah blah blah blah to keep us distracted all the time and if not that then what is what is Trump tweeting at the time. Trump tweeting at the moment, what is he to you? He's tweeting about this, he's tweeting about that. Or if you ask me distraction, distraction, it's like a clown on stage just distracting our mind so that we do not see what it's actually going on in the world, what it's actually taking place. Most people are focusing on the weird hairdo. I mean, I'm not into politics. I do not know about Trump, but this is how I see him. When I look upon him, it's like he creates chaos and confusion and attraction. So people are looking that way. Instead of seeing we are going down here, folks, if we do not do anything, it's speeding up and we are going down. So but then again, if you want depression on the wrong person because I am super optimistic and I think it's just the matter of very short time before we can transcend this whole thing because it is falling apart. It's cracking down and the fog is lifting. So even people that have been so-called asleep are starting to see things like, what the hell? This is, I'm starting to see this is so strange. Before they couldn't see anything, it was like being in this thick, thick fog. Now it's lifting more and more by the truth is coming out that the truth is just starting to spread the light in so many different areas. And I, you know, like, if I'm correct, millions of people are waking up, millions and millions. So it's fantastic times. How is the government different than the mafia? In the old days, the mafia would come to your business and extort you, pay for security or else? Well, the mafia under control, you know, they're under control somewhat, but the government threatens you. Pay taxes or else, even though there's no law stating, at least in the United States, there's no law stating that an individual has to pay income tax. So has the government learned from the mafia and the only difference is that the government has been deputized and committing crimes has become law. You know, my friend, Maxi, he was asked a few votes and he said, no, I do not support organized crime. And I thought there was a brilliant answer. Very Max. Yeah. Because the thing is I just, the mafia, a lot more than government people, that I can say, because there is a certain honesty and loyalty inside them all. They have a code of ethics. They have a code of ethics. They've got a code of ethics. Yeah, it's a very brutal code of ethics, but they do. And I mean, if you're a snitch, there are certain rules for that. I mean, it's very, very like the government. Oh my God. I do not trust them as far as I can spit. It's, and I remember one time we were talking about the all of parliament case because in Sweden, I was so confused because I was sort of on a street level trying to find out what actually happened there. And I always came to a certain point, but it was like I couldn't get further up. It was like this fog, this invisible wall that was built there. And I remember I was sitting talking to the former, he was the chief of the Swedish custom services for the national CEO or whatever you want to call in the top man in the whole system when it came to the customs. And so he had been in these circles. And I asked, you know, like, how is it possible that no one is reacting? I mean, they must be able to see what we are seeing that this is just totally sick. What is going on? Nothing is being done. And I said, but do all of them know? He said, no one of them knows the whole truth behind these operations. They don't want to. And they are not they, if they do, they become a threat. So they're very aware I'm not getting to know too much. But he said, the only way you can get to that level in society is to corrupt yourself. Otherwise, you don't get up there. He said, it is like an invisible ladder. And you just come to a certain, just like within the free mass, since you just come to a certain rank or class or level, if you do not corrupt yourself. If you corrupt yourself and you say, you're lawyer to their course, my God, you can be as stupid as a brick and your career will just go straight up into key positions where you will be sad and put there to do absolutely nothing while the whole machine is working behind you. So I do not trust politician at all, at all. And you know, the word government, if there are different variations of what it means. But as far as I know, it's an old Greek word called guppand meant and meaning control the mind, mind control. And also in Sweden, we got, we haven't got the parliament, but we got what is called reyering and to reyera the verb of that is to rule. So the government means the rulers. But there's a total misunderstanding here because officially they're supposed to work for us, not to rule us. But this is what we're seeing here. They are, our, we have appointed our rulers that are so corrupt nowadays that it's just the very saddening to see. Yes, those of us who are lucky to speak another language, in your case, you speak many of them. But government, you know, mind, you govern your mind. And you mentioned a similar word to Rahil, which means to rule. All these words are in front of us. Real estate, taxes, for example, real, when you see the word real, that means a royal, which means the queen or the king. You have all these words in front of you. And we just don't question them like here in the United States. I don't know if you have the same thing in Europe. We have property taxes. You can retire from your job. And finally, and you're going to have the sunset of your life, but you still have to pay those property taxes regardless if you have income or not. And if you don't pay, they take the property away. So do you even own your own roof? It's organized crime, though. That's, that's it. It's once you start seeing it for what it is, it all makes sense. And then I mean, I think we're at a point where everything is upside down. White is black. And just like in the JFK movie, Garrison says, listen, we have to understand why this black and black is white. We're behind the mirror. This is it. It's all upside down. So if you want to understand the world, just turn it 180 degrees around. Everything that is supposed to be good for us is now bad for us. And the bad stuff are the good stuff. It's very confusing. But at the same time, it's like, do I trust the police? I would much rather go to the health angels, you know, to if I have a problem. It's so twisted. But once you just accept, okay, this is the way it is, suddenly things start making sense. And then you can find solutions. And what I try to do is I try to approach these people, the police, the military, also health angels, and so on, to get to the hearts of these individuals and wake them up just because they're the ones protecting these hidden rulers from us. So they think they're doing their job, but actually they're helping to destroy the world. So I think it's the individuals that I'm trying to reach. And I'm willing to go anywhere, you know, secret meetings, wherever, because many of these people are very scared, you know, scared. They don't know who to speak to with their colleagues. They don't know who to be able to trust. They're afraid of their pension, their career. But so many are starting to say the same thing, you know, see the same things. Even I'm being contacted, you know, by former members of government and generals and you name it, all kinds of high level people that are saying, I'm really, really, I don't know what to do. You know, so many people are just on the verge to become whistleblowers or step forward. But they're so afraid, afraid for their families and their own safety and so on. But it's bubbling right under the surface. Let me ask you this. You mentioned JFK and Garrison and a bunch of names are coming to mind. But let's go in chronological order with McCain, Joe McCain. And then I have a president here to Herbert Walker Bush, who recently died. Let's go there first. You may remember that McCain had a leg braze or a walking boot in one leg first and then the other leg. And at the same time, Hillary Clinton was wearing a leg brazen, the same leg as McCain. Biggest study that phenomenon a few years ago. I know about it. I did not study it. I mean, there's so many weird things about these individuals. I mean, Hillary or Hitler, sorry, Hillary. She, I know at least four different people that have been acting as Hillary. So who's the real one? I mean, they don't even look alike. You know, we've done a lot of facial recognition the whole thing. It's not even near. Once you start putting the photos next to each other, it's like, holy, it's not even, it's not the same age, not the same weight, not the same height. It's nowhere near. So what is going on? We are, we are being played in so many different levels. That is what I know. And there's so many different layers of these siops that I just know, maybe I understand a fraction of them. So things like that, I don't know, were they even injured or did you just put it on for some reason? Do you know, there's so many things with the shoes and the feet? I don't know if you're aware of that in these operations. Very often, you know, in these false flag attacks, one of the things that I encountered in the hundreds were victims without shoes, one shoe off or two shoes off, hit by cars, two shoes off. And so I spoke into many several ambulance drivers and doctors and police officers that are used to go to places where accidents have occurred or train accidents or whatever, asking them about what about these shoes? And they say it's very unusual that shoes just fall off like that. Sometimes they train ricks and so on. It can happen, but normally not. So I started looking into these shoes more and more and more. And what I encounter, it's especially Nike shoes that are left there. And there are very, very, very central in photos from these crime sites where people have been alleged, been shot, murdered or whatever. You have all of this grew something in the picture and then there's a Nike trainer. And so I didn't really understand to start with when I started encountering them again and again and again. And again, I started talking about them in many interviews because I thought that they were being left there as sort of like a business card, almost, you know, like Operation Phoenix and Vietnam, this mass extinction program where they were murdering lots of people that they claim were being con. One of the things that they did was they left the ace of spade, the plane card in the mouth of the victim just as also to spread terror. So I thought it was that. But then I was contacted by a free Mason who said that no, no, it is you have to understand it's the same with the free Masonic rituals in the temples. Once you means that this individual is doing this ritual voluntarily, two shoes of means homage to the sacred space where this sacrifice is being carried out. So that took it to a new level. Also this whole thing with one trousers leg up, you go to the trousers. I apologize for interjecting, but what you saying is is incredible because I don't know if you know the work of David Politis missing for one and the common denominator in all his books is the absence of shoes, right? It's the shoes. They're always missing. I've been looking into a lot of missing people in in the national parks and also children that are being, you know, abducted and the shoes, the shoes, the shoes. So I looked into more and more and I started finding that these shoes were not only terror attacks, but I found them in about 48 different countries, the exact same way the shoes were being used in images where you got like an alleged plane crash. You don't, you can hardly see the plane, but right in the sense of the image itself is a Nike shoe, you know, or children's Nike shoe. It's Nike, Nike again and again and again. So also it was, it's being used in, like I said, not only mass shootings, but everything from virus scares to wife beating to you name it. So many things that has to do with fear where the shoes have been, been used. So one time I did an into you together with Cody Snotgris, a CIA whistleblower that I helped stepping forward. If you haven't had him on your show yet, I can super, super, super recommend him. What an incredible source of information. Anyway, but he was in his career. He was an independent black up contractor for more than 20 years and he was also partly involved in M.K. Ultra and he said in this interview, he said, wait a second, I think there's another level to this thing. He said that when you prepare an individual as an M.K. Ultra asset, what you have to do is you break them down by torture or sexual abuse horrific things, pain, pain, pain. And this is with the attention to splitting the mind that the soul can just not, when it can't take any more, the personality just splits into more than one. And then this second personality can then be accessed through trigger points or trigger symbols and can then be used as whatever they want them to without the first personality, even knowing what the second part is doing. It's very, very strange. So the trigger signal is very important to trigger this individual into becoming where they can control him. So this is what you see sometimes in movies when they get a phone call and maybe the boy says the hummingbird is red or something like that. I'm boom. This individual goes into like a trans or a secondary personality where they can be controlled. So what code is suggested was here we have decades of horrific events that go all the ways back to the Holocaust where shoes have signified become the symbol of death. You know, these big mountains of shoes that are said to come from dead victims from the... That was the first time when shoes were being used. And also the Hebrew name of the shoe are... Anyway, I found images of these shoes that have been spread all over the place from the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Balkan War. And in so many other of these more modern wars and also terror attacks. So what Cody said was he believes that the shoe has been used as a global mind-controlled fear trigger. Do you know because just like when you break down someone for MK Ultra, what they do sometimes is they torture someone and then in front of their face they put a symbol, maybe an upside down butterfly or whatever it is. So every time this individual experience this intense pain, the symbol is there, the symbol is there, the symbol is there. So in the end they don't have to torture the person, they just show the symbol and boom, the trauma is just activated. And so what Cody suggested and what I believe is true is that for so many years when there is a horrific thing, we see images and our subconscious, I spoke to psychologists about this as well. They say our subconscious will try to avoid seeing at this horrific thing even though we are very curious. So you look at the blood or whatever and then you pull away and your eyes will look for something more comfortable or normal and the shoe will be there. So the shoe will be as a trigger. So you look at the blood and you say oh my god and then you go, that's the first hit and then you see the shoe, boom, that's the second hit. So it's like do do where you get this amplified traumatic experience. So nowadays I tell you if you look at the newspaper cuttings from alleged, I please notice how I used to alleged all the time, a less shooting at night, you know, like for instance, Broadway nightclub shooting, 3D, and the only image is of a Nike trainer in the street or you got like all kinds of violent crimes that I said, the image, an Nike trainer, stabbing in England, there's been a whole wave of alleged stabbing shoes, shoes, shoes, trainers, trainers, trainers. And then when I started pointing this out in hundreds of interviews and more and more people started catching onto this, it's come to a point to mail that my last name has been turned into a verb, can you believe it or not? So not by myself, but to demiguard is to look for these hidden clues and find them and help to predict the next upcoming attack. So the more people that are into this and start seeing it has sort of disturbed their way of operating. So now I think they're in a transition where they're trying to move away from shoes because it's becoming almost like a joke, online joke, or another shoe, another shoe, another shoe. So now they try to do both shoes and bicycles. So you will see a crime and a bicycle in the background. So now that they're trying to do it with these bicycles so that they don't have to use the shoes, this is my interpretation at least. So now you'll see there's all of these bicycles suddenly in the background and then you have dry by shootings by on a bicycle, have you seen there's been multiple of those? Even the George Bush surgeon, I think it was, was come down by a guy on a bicycle and it's just getting more and more bizarre. The whole right there because we have to break both segments. And when we come back I want to continue discussing this but I also want to, I don't think you and I have ever discussed the individuals that are notorious, John Lennon, Martin Luther King, Princess Diana. We may have briefly discussed them, RFK and many of the others. I like to see what common denominator you've found and if you suspect who may be behind these. But how can people learn more about your work, Oli? Well first of all I can tell you a lot about all of these cases you just mentioned and how they're connected. But my website is lightonconspiracies.com, lightonconspiracies.com and I'm a one man van so if anyone is interested in supporting these types of efforts to make a change for the better, please consider donations or buying my books, my membership, whatever. Also please support Mel in creating this platform because it's through platform like there it's us that we can get the truth out there so I really applaud that. Thank you Oli. Well folks don't go anywhere. We are going to get deeper when we come back in the member section. This is Mel Famergas and you are listening to Veritas. My guess today is Oli Domecoord. Thank you for listening to the first part of this very important Veritas interview. To listen to the rest and all of our material, proceed to the member section or subscribe at VeritasRadio.com. Don't forget to visit the Veritas store for MMS, hemp oil, pure organic sulfur and other great products. Thank you.