JIM FETZER "The Raw Deal" (4-24-19) Vinny Eastwood NZ "shooting"

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Here we go folks. We will all be together when we be. There'll be nobody present at the wake. For if complete participation in that grand incineration, nearly 3 billion hunts of well-done steak. We will all char together when we char. And let there be no moaning of the bar, just sing out a TD on when you see that ICBM and the party will be come as you are. This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the raw deal, where I'm very, very pleased to have with my special guest in an extraordinary arrangement from down under Vinny Eastwood. He has a very popular show of his own. And interestingly enough, I wanted especially to feature Vinny because I had the suspicion that he was of one mind with Max Egan that the shooting in Christ Church of the two mosques had been real. Those of you who have been following the show know of course that's far removed from my own take. So I thought it would be great to have Vinny here to argue his case. I'll give do what I can to uphold my end for those of you who want to know the background. There are a couple of places you could go. I must have five or six different blogs about New Zealand at James Fetzer.org. Very convenient one, however, in the context of my debate with Max Egan is by Mona Alexis Pressley entitled, Does Max Egan have it right? Was the Christ Church shooting real? Where you can find also the exchange I had with Max Egan during a debate range by Billy Ray Valentine, which was extremely interesting. And where Max brought up what he took to be four different proofs of the reality of the video, which Mona has addressed in her blog, taking to task each of the four and arguing none of them is authentic. All of them are fake. Well, Max isn't with us today, but Vinny, I have no doubt, will do an able job of representing his point of view. Vinny, welcome to the raw deal. Thanks Jim. And I want to stay straight from the outset. Real or fake does it matter? And the answer is absolutely yes it does, but only in the execution pardon the pun. Now what that means is essentially let's say I fly some planes into buildings and then blow them up with say thermite detonator charges and then a pointer commission afterwards to cover it up and try to hurry away all of the steel and all of the evidence and what have you awaited China so that it could never be analyzed for the evidence that shows that it was a controlled demolition. Now does that mean that this whole incident was fake? You know, could you call it fake? It was 9-11, a fake incident? Well, on some cases you could technically call it that because fake means it wasn't as it appears as it was. Okay, so for example, were there 19 hijackers? Well, apparently according to a bulletproof fireproof titanium tri-weave passport that fell out of the plane while that burst into flames when it went inside of the building. Apparently these passports in the United States, they built Tonka-Tuff ladies and gentlemen, okay? You know, so all these wonderful pieces of evidence just come out that just totally implement one, you know, this group of arable people. And conveniently it allows us to justify every single surveillance state agenda that we had from the beginning. So fake or not organized or genuine does it make a difference? Because the people who pass legislation in result of such attacks have pre-planned agendas anyway. Now the vast majority of the time you will find that there are drills on the day or there are witnesses, things that don't make a count. And all of these sort of things that promote confusion. Okay, so what's the point of terrorism? All right, so fascism, capitalism, communism, these are systems of government much like terrorism. What terrorism is defined as as a government threatening and terrorizing its own citizens into going along with their agenda. Now any of you living in into the United States or any of the five eyes countries like myself suddenly think to yourself, oh my god, do I live in a terrorist state? And the answer is yes, yes you do. If you are living in a westernized country, you are living in a terrorist state. Because your government terrorizes you and does scary things all the time. Oh my god, there's a flow, there's measles. Oh, there's something, well, there's global warming. They're always trying to frighten you. Okay, the reason why this works so well is because when a human being is under threat, the parts of their brain don't work the way that they normally should. Here's how it normally works. Okay, so you have your primate brain, which is right of the frontal cortex, that does your analytical thinking, hmm, is this real? Or is this just just be yes? And then there's the emotional part of your brain, oh my god, people died. I want to be with a self-assimpat people. And then there's the fight of flight part of your brain. Oh my god, we need to kill all the Muslims because they're such evil terrorists. You know, that kind of thing. So it's think, feel, react. Think, feel, react. So when they're doing terrorism attacks, you stop thinking you start feeling. Okay, and then when the government tells you to react in a certain way, for example, confiscating all your weapons, they go, okay, no problem. And they react. Problem, reaction, solution, the Higalyan dialectic. Now, how this works in New Zealand context. Let's have a look at a false flag terrorism over. Before you go there, before you go there, let me make a few comments on your remarks about New York and all that. Nigel Lavas. You may or may not be a well, but I found, but I found it scholars for 9-11, truth and December of 2005 and well, well, well, it took off like a rocket. You know, we had over 800 members in four categories by the end of 2006. The keynote speaker at Alex Jones, American Scholars Conference in 2006. And the Wednesday span came and they did their interview of the panel discussion on Sunday, which lasted an hour and 45 minutes. The four speakers were all members of scholars, Steve Jones, who I invited to be my co-chair of his assist, who promoted the nano thermite theory bomb, a bombon who was a Korean war ace with 101 kills. But really important because he had a PhD in nuclear engineering from Caltech and had been the scientific advisor to President Carter and Ford about the Star Wars project. Webster, Tarplay author of the book 9-11, synthetic, tear made in the US. A, and myself, of course, is a founder of scholars where I talked about the top 10 reasons we know the hijackers are fake. Now, in my judgment, those who have done serious work would be agreed that these 19 terrorists were really patsys. In fact, they don't appear to have been aboard any of the planes. As David Ray Griffin makes a very first point in his manager's serial work, the 9-11 commission report omissions and distortions. Half a dozen or more turned up alive and well, the following day and made contact with the British media. Absolutely right. And they claim to be victims of identity theft. So what people recognize that intelligence agents stole their identities and then got on the planes to frame them or something. Well, let me go a little bit further, Vinnie, and then we'll come back to it. Of course, we had this very convenient list, a manifest absurdity of the 19 terrorists founded, and the bluggish of Mohammed Ata that he allegedly forgot to get on the plane when he hijacked out of Logan. I mean, this is ridiculous beyond words. It's 15 of the 19, of course, where from Saudi Arabia, there was not a single one from Iraq, for example. The whole thing was totally contrived. We had the very interesting phenomenon, by the way, between the time the South Tower was blown apart, and it was blown apart in every direction from the top down all the floors, remained stationary, being converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust. Was a footage from a Palestinian's rejoicing. They just happened to have it hand. It turned out, of course, the Palestinians were just a slack job and stoopified it, what was going on is the rest of the world. It just happened to be archival footage from a distant event that had been a political or religious significance that caused the Palestinians to rejoice. They even claimed to have a phone call claiming responsibility from the popular front of the liberation of Palestine, all totally rigged, all totally fake. No doubt, you know, this was a beside place call. In fact, it's very clear that the whole operation was designed and I've convinced it originated in the fertile imagination of BB Net Niyahu in order to create an event that would enable the American people to be convinced that we needed to get involved in the Middle East, or Wesley Clark in 2007 at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, explaining the agenda to take out seven countries in the next five years, beginning with a modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance, Israel's domination of the entire region, really Iraq, Libya, and so forth, winding up with Syria and then confrying the Persian nation of Iran. It didn't play out that way because of the intervention of Russia and Iran at the request of the Syrian government, which Vinny, you may not believe this, most Americans believe that Bashar al-Assad is a dictator. They don't understand he's a democratically elected president of Syria, just as they don't know that. Well, I know that, yeah. Well, the point I make is most Americans don't know it, Vinny. Most Americans don't know it. So, no, the point I make is just to come up to the final point I want to make here before you continue because you've got so much you want to say here. Two of those planes weren't even in the air that day. Applied to 11 North Tower in 77 Pentagon. We're even in the air that day. In fact, it was Gerard Holmgren, who was, if I'm not mistaken, a fellow citizen of Australia, was a first to note that the Bureau of Transportation Statistics records didn't show where they keep records of every takeoff and every landing of every commercial carrier in the United States. We have copies of the pages showing they weren't there. And pilots for 9-11 truth doing brilliant study of the aircraft, based on air-ground communication, have been able to establish that flight 93 was over the Champaigner, Bantiel and Neuwy, after it had officially crashing in Chancel. And the flight 175 was over at Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania long after it had officially hit the South Tower, where I myself obtained federal aviation administration records showing that the planes used for those two flights. And as you well know, the same plane can be used for many different flights, Tampa, to Chicago today, New York, to San Francisco tomorrow. We're not even formally taken out of service or deregistered until September 28, 2005, raising the questions, how complaints were not even in the air have crashed on 9-11 and? How complaints have crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later? And this is particularly significant because it shows that we're no hijackers or no Islamic terrorists who took command of the planes. No one there for it was a passenger board. Any of those planes died in crashes that did not take place. And just to top it off, of course, as I've already mentioned, we had a half a dozen or more of these, I turn up alive and will make contact with the British media the following day. So, you know, while it is true that there were persons who died in New York, it's not true that the alleged mechanisms by means of which that happened, were even remotely approximated by the 9-11 commission. And in my judgment, what we have going on in New Zealand was faking attacks on two different costs. It was even more amateurish than Boston bombing scam where they used amputee actors, footage showing shell casing disappearing in mid air. I'm utterly unconvinced even though you want to defend Max Egan on this point. In my opinion, this was a crystal clear case of staging fake attacks and then immediately moving to grab the guns. And I'm just saying that it's a fact it's about a textbook as it could be. So, I'm just offering that as kind of a general response to the great many things you're having to say, my friend, you're very articulate. I really enjoy listening to you. And I just want every now and then insert a few words edgewise just for the record. So, my position is clear in relation to York. And I completely agree with a lot of the things that you've brought up there. And on this Christchurch thing, just want to ask a couple of questions of the listeners, you know, and even of yourself, Jim, have you been to Christchurch ever let alone during a really after this cry? No, the answer is for the largest amount of people, no, they haven't actually been there. Have they interviewed anybody who was at either of the mosques? The answer is no, they haven't. Okay, so my answer is yes, yes. And everybody else in the entire world's alternative media is no, no, they haven't been there. They haven't interviewed anybody who was there. So, this, that's just, they're just, they're just, they're so, you have, you have some idea of how much time I've experienced exposing these questions. No, that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. J-OK 9-11 to Sandy Hook to the Boston bombing tour, land to a Dallas, to Charlotte, field to Parkland. done the most of the case it doesn't require traveling to all those locations to sort out what happened so i dare say your offering that's not what i'm saying that's not what i'm saying your offering that's not what i'm saying that's not what i'm saying i would say that's not what i'm saying that's not what i'm saying what i'm saying by by people giving false testimony look that guns were not even real that the guns you see in the video they aren't even real guns great how it was a first to sport that out even found replica is online where you can get similar weapons they couldn't fire any showcasing they were emitting a strobe light you can actually see it when the driver first gets out of the vehicle after turning into the alley turns around comes back the strobe light is flashing you can see it on the ground he goes to the back he opens it trunk he gets out the shot gun these are all painted up i mean it's really uh uh it's really quite ridiculous including there's even an arrow painted where the shell case seems to have to be shown to be emitted from it and it's clearly CGI i mean i i'm really stunned that max wants to continue to make the argument because i for one of them certainly not gonna buy it well my problem is that i'm unable to look at max's article i'm unable to watch max's video um analyzing the things so uh have you did you did you watch his video analyzing the actual video frame by frame 36,000 frames well i had a you know good exchange very vigorous exchange with him online and the most important argument he made was about these four different uh cases where he insisted the evidence showed it was real which Mona Alexis Presley has frankly dispatched i mean one of them was a bullet hole in the windshield but there's no bullet hole in the windshield there's some kind of weird cracking but it's not a bullet hole if you get a fire through a windshield it's gonna do massive damage it isn't there and he also insists you know that this the argument you're making the disappearing shell case and we're real uh look then he i supervised recruit training at the recruit depot and saying he go in the Marine Corps i had 15 d i 300 recruits under my command including marksmanship training no one with familiarity with weapons would be taken in by these ejection of the shell case he says clearly CGI i don't think there's any doubt about it and and you know max can do what he wants to do with a better version of a CGI but i tell you it's complete nonsense uh they're not even coming out of the right port in the weapon in terms of the way it ought to have been had it been real then we had two other arguments before and bodies before and after being shot but you know you got the gunman walking into a room and there's already a stack of bodies and he hasn't even fired around not to mention not to mention that when he walks up to the front there's no glass away there's no blood splattered around this is one of the problems we had in Boston Vinnie and why i say this is even more amateurish than Boston we had the the the police in Boston we're calling out on bowl horns this is a drill this is a drill the Boston Globe was tweeting that a demonstration bomb would be set off during the marathon for the benefit of bomb squad activities and in a second tweet that one would be set off in one minute in front of the library and one minute makes it soon in front of the yeah sure in front of the Boston Library one of these explosion these puff bombs went off now i was an artillery officer in the Marine Corps Vinnie and i can guarantee you these weren't powerful enough to kill anybody unless perhaps you're sitting right on top of it when you appear to him through the smoke and we have all kinds of video until you saw yes there were bodies missing arms and legs but there was no blood as a rain day who is in charge of trauma surgery for san francisco general hospital for 25 years this episode is a physiological impossibility of arms and legs limbs blown off by explosive than the ruby don't blood the blood only showed up later it was take blood it came out of these little orange duffel bags take blood kits of which are a half a dozen or so strewn around the area now that's what we had going on at the mosque we had you know he comes in there's no blood there's no splatter there's not even any noise he walks in yeah there's some people that are making some sounds you can hear in the distance but it's all totally contrived comes into a room where there's stacks of bodies but he hasn't even shot anyone anymore he does it one point come up closer and the gun now seems to put out an ex-blast of air because the clothing is moved but there's no holes in the body i'm telling you Vinnie it's just as fake as it could be just as phony and fraudulent and this is part of why he says even more amateurish than Boston go okay so first of all let's define what an argument is an argument is when two people respectfully listen to each other's ideas until they're finished and then take any of the points of those ideas that they perhaps dislike or disagree with and then very specifically break them down in order to corroborate them so that we can compare notes it is said that when an honest man is confronted with the truth that he is wrong he will either cease to be wrong or cease to be honest now the done and Kruger effect holds that if you get two groups of people in a room one of which knows a lot about the subject and a lot of which knows nothing about the subject given the test given the answers and ask them to rate how confident they are that their answers are correct the most interesting thing has been found the more knowledge you have on a subject the more you think you know about that subject okay then you actually do however the interesting other side of it is if you know nothing about a subject you'll think you know a lot more about it than you actually do so at all times regardless of our level of experience we must remain humble willing to listen willing to think you know for for a moment as to what somebody's actually saying now when I made the point about who's been there who's interviewed any of the people down there the point that I'm making is you have to feel something real okay and half the reason why I went down there is because I felt nothing watching that video is blood pouring down the steps at the front there is blood spatter on the walls when certain people get shot in the head there's impact on certain people's heads now the video itself I think it's a complete misnomer a red herring and to keep going on about the video in my my professional opinion as a journalist a 10 years wasted time because that's not the real story here the real story here is the internet censorship that came up immediately after this story okay now we're not talking about just oh they can't watch the video again this is nothing to do with the video this is to do with the technological control grid that they have in place to prevent people from watching or doing anything that they don't want now previously I've never seen this happen before okay so when I was on my show with Oli Damogad we got censored in real time in real time never ever he's been doing this for 25 years I've been doing it for over 10 neither of us had ever been censored in real time there's a complete new move so after the shooting happens all right this is the the interesting part of it because before it as you might have noticed there was a huge a downage of Facebook and social media and it seemed that or at least some people have alleged that Facebook was actually working with the gun to coordinate this attack so that the Facebook would only come up on the day of the attack so what's everybody gonna be looking at where's all the coverage gonna go and we had Kurt Richard Haskell giving us I think previous interview that when we came up with 40 different signs of a false flag attack within the first day my analysis coupled with Ben Vigins coupled with Kurt Richard Haskell's and Oli Damogad within 24 hours we finger we finger pointed at 18 different signs of a false flag that weren't even included in the video okay now this is the other element as well because you've got at the same time you've got this huge attack going on or allegedly going on and you have a massive planned agenda backing it up now what I mean by that a planned agenda backing it up well it tombs out that the United Nations have a gun control program one that they have written down and one that I'm actually going to read out just a couple of the parts to you here because it actually really illustrates that this was all part of a planned agenda now genuine or not and at this point it comes down to a basic beliefs you know do you have CGI experience if you interviewed all of these people blah blah blah who what when where why how these are the information gathering things and I believe that trying to reach conclusions as quickly as possible is about the least responsible thing that we can do at journalists at this point but here is the UN document I'll just share this so for you Jim this is the UN document here that shows the UN's gun control agenda now I'll read out the forward to this just so that people can understand would a dictatorship just take all the guns up front or slowly get rid of them step by step till only police and military have them agenda 21 is real but is this document it might be disinformation we may not know how to find it or it might have been removed there are lots of variables and this is this is important to know when we're dealing with complicated cases that there's lots of variables that can can can found our conclusions what do we know for sure is that agenda 21 is real and the UN are 100 percent against civilians having weapons so the question is even if this document was not genuine would it change anything no so this is the UN ODA the United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs they have an office for disarmament affairs they have a disarmament commission civilian civilian oh let me just calm down for a second I've got to breathe fight a flight response go disarmament commission civilian weapons confiscation study group New York 29th to the 31 of July 2013 and we have confirmation from one of my listeners as well that in 2013 he did go to the UN's website and download this document himself very recently he tried again and the document could no longer be found and in fact he originally found it on a restricted United Nations page so this is again gives more credence to this and after I read this out you'll figure out why what the connection is to Christchurch here the issue of military grade weaponry in the hands of civilians looms even larger in the face of global implementation of 22 and agenda 21 by member nations in particular the United States of America has an estimated 500 million weapons in the hands of its civilian population this is not just a static problem it is a massive dynamic problem for the process of confiscation as there will be those who refuse to surrender their firearms is in 2013 folks the conclusion of discussions by the CWC SG lead to the adoption of a proposed agenda to begin the process for introducing to member nations a framework by which they can begin codification of natural of national laws to disarm civilians within their borders through a graduated process within the discussion framework we have identified several problem areas that must be addressed they are one classification of military grade weapons to be made illegal for possession this happened directly after the Christchurch attacks creation of programs to provide reasonable compensation for voluntary surrender of said arms happen right after the Christchurch attacks three codification of laws to begin the restricting and strict licensing of concealable arms happen right after the Christchurch attacks four codification of laws to begin the restricting and strict licensing of hunting grade firearms hasn't happened yet you see how this is a progressive staging thing five confisc codification of laws to restrict the sale of and possession of ammunition and components to manufacture ammunition six finally and this is almost this is almost over by the way finally codification of laws to completely make any and all firearms illegal to own possess or use outside of military and law enforcement use it and then we're all slaves folks creation and number seven last point on this list creation of a united nations police task force with a specific mission of assisting member nations with the collection of weaponry from civilian hands and lastly the C W C S G will commit will submit its findings and final recommendations once we have created the codification framework for member nations for a full review by the office of the secretary general so there is the UN gun grab agenda plain and bare and simple and they are marching to that tune very very fast that are really following this attack they started implementing these these reforms almost immediately and now there's the thing regardless of whether or not the attack is a genuine one due to did it by himself a government operation that involved many many different departments who are compartmentalized or whether if it was completely fake and then the media just made it all up completely irrelevant because the agendas were the same before this incident even happened and the incident has merely given them justification for them to happen now a forgotten word is no okay so for example if a government tries to take your guns I'll come to you in just a sec I'm so sorry darling okay it's okay we're both using happy narrowed shells this is just fine go ahead just yesterday I interviewed a New Zealand arms expert and he says that the guns in this country are absolutely everywhere there's all types of military grey weaponry and the amount of murders that get that occur by registered weapons are 2% of the registered murders okay so all the murders that really get committed by guns and things like this country somebody just files off the serial number and then all of a sudden it's a free gun you can kill anybody and you can't be traced and that's what's happened with our import and export business here run by M-FAT which is supposed to scan all the ships as they come in because you can't make weapons in New Zealand and you can only import them from overseas and so what M-FAT's been doing is they've been working with local organized crime here in New Zealand to say hey you see that big ship over there that looks incredibly suspicious they've probably got a hell of a lot of weapons on it they're like yeah yeah we're about to scan it bro and they're like actually no you're not yeah like well why not why can't I scan it that's my job and I say because it's illegal to do your job okay and so we've got gang members and criminal fraternities essentially in every single port in New Zealand and that's how a lot of illegal weapons actually get into this country now that being said this gunman Brenton or sorry if I'm not even allowed to say his name or I could go to jail for 10 years that's how crazy it is right now this situation I'm very frightened by the way I've been visited by the police five times five times four times and four days and then and then a fifth time after I came back from Christchurch asking me what I thought what I thought about it now so there's a chilling effect at the at the same time so I'm very very afraid to even be having this conversation with you right now Jen because I could go to jail as a direct result I have my channel as a direct result well Vinnie I agree with a whole lot of what you said here especially about the gun grabbing agenda the role of the UN here just before I lose track a point about the nature of arguments I don't think you have to be a philosopher to understand that the basic notion of an argument is having a conclusion in providing premises or evidence in support so what I was doing was establishing a conclusion the whole thing is fake and providing evidence in support there's a second and colloquial use to which you are appealing to persons disagreeing they may or may not be respectful we are being respectful and we're offering reasons for our points of view and of course that's what we're engaging here I just want to differentiate the two senses of an argument in addition now in this happened just before I came on the show present Donald Trump on Friday announced that the National Rifle Association annual meeting the United States will drop out of an international arms treaty signed in 2013 by then President Barack Obama but opposed by the NRA and other conservative groups Trump told members of the at the meeting that he intends to revoke the status of the United States as a signatory of the arms trade treaty which was never ratified by the United States Senate this is a very good thing now third and in many ways most important although the gun grabbers would want us to believe the more guns the more homicides the facts are quite the opposite it turns out that gun ownership and homicide rates are inversely related so that if you look at international demographic studies for example North America is by far the highest preponderance in gun ownership the United States and Canada but also lowest mortality or homicide rate takes out the American countries like Brazil low gun ownership high homicide rate African countries low gun ownership high homicide rate Russia low gun ownership high homicide rate so you evidently have a choice you can have high gun ownership and low homicide rates or you can have low gun ownership in high homicide rates I think that's really a no-brainer and video it's just astounding to me how the liberals here in California and elsewhere across the United States are promoting gun-trees old but you know taking taking weapons away from wall-albiting citizens is not going to make them safer because the criminals aren't going to give up their guns at all in fact it's obvious we have in Chicago a pilot study where they have very strict gun control laws and very high homicide rates all they have to do to reduce it is to allow concealed carry and you're going to see that homicide rate dropped to practically zero because then the person that you have to know who's armed and who's not so I'm very much uh uh promoted the second amendment and I've been doing quite a lot about it in terms of promoting you know giving videos and talks about the importance of the second amendment and the ill-founded arguments of the left wing you've even got this diaries swole well a democrat from California who wants to forcibly take guns away from citizens at the point of a gun using the military to do it and he claims Vini that if there are enclaves of resistance that the government should use tactical nuclear weapons I mean and this is a guy who took a note to preserve protect and defend the constitution of the United States when he became a member of congress Vini it's that bad the the the democrats have gone that lunatic it's absolutely unbelievable oh you you I'm telling the about you uh are reflecting precisely what I'm feeling about our left-discovery here in New Zealand at the same time because um we've got a problematic discourse going on that's basically to even talk about this even to discuss it or discuss ideas essentially qualifies you as a hate speaker so so this new buzz word hate speech is going to be used all over the place now I want to back up something you said about concealed carry permits and this is a great example that John Lent from his documentary more guns less crime actually cited about Israel now back in the day in the 1980s they were had problems with you know alleged Palestinian terrorists but at the time instead of using suicide bombs these Palestinian terrorists would come in with groups and they would have AK-47s and they would shoot up marketplaces malls things like that in Tel Aviv and the Israeli government initially responded by putting troops on the corners okay pretty pretty much all all over the place you know but then they found out really soon after that that troops on the corners didn't work very well because the terrorists would just wait for a shift change and then commit their attack when the soldier rotated home okay and so they were like okay well how do we do this how do we do this concealed carry they decided on now what happened was this is the story a group of Palestinian terrorists for gunmen walked into a mall in central Tel Aviv and they opened fire on a group of civilians on a Monday morning to their shock and horror all of these elderly people pulled pistols out of their little handbags and little shopping trolleys and started shooting back and they killed three of the terrorists outright wounded the fourth and then they called an ambulance for them say hey we've shot a terrorist he's nearly dead do you want to let him die or nah nah we'll try and save him make and so the ambulance drivers or ambulance staff reported on the way back that the Palestinian terrorist was absolutely beside himself he was a tears and he was just like really really sad and then like I said what's wrong mate what's wrong man other than getting shot and he goes no one told us the the old ladies would have guns oh god is that wonderful that's wonderful John lot I think you can manage John lot when I published nobody died at Sandy Hook with 13 contributors including six coronary tired Ph.D. professors in 2015 where we had established a school had been closed by 2008 that there were no students there that had been a female exercise presented as mass murder where we even had the manual which I included as appendix a appendix d was an article by John lot about how homicide grades and gun ownership are inversely related with a couple of historic examples so I'm a huge fan of John lot the book went on sale on 22 October and so of 2015 it sold nearly 500 copies was banned on 19 November so I released it for free Vinnie as a PDF anyone can download the first edition nobody died at Sandy Hook by just putting the title into your browser you can have it there and the joy of it is all the images are in color in other words today we have a you know the second edition of the book available at moonrock and blix.com if you want to tote it around in your hand you can get it there but it's in both black and white and color and and because color is more expensive to print of course the color edition is more it's actually $30 that black and white 20 but you can get the first edition and see all the the figures all the images in color right there and there's some dandies including for example where a SWAT team was at the school before the event you can tell because just above the roof of the vehicle there's a string of four windows in classroom that are undamaged they would be shot out after the event so this is clearly before the event the flag is at full mass you come down the flag and there's a familiar figure reclining against the wall with his arms folded awaiting the arrival of his portable marcher or a tent none other than Wayne Carver there's crime scene tape up for a crime that had yet to be committed we originally thought that was taken the morning of the 14 that turned out shadow analysis revealed it was actually taken the evening of the 13th Vinnie so they were setting up well in advance for this shooting at Sandy Hook I mean embarrassingly bad Vinnie do they have a drill on that day two Jim yeah well they had it was a two day female drill started at 8 a.m. on the 13th and ended at 1159 with evaluation as a live event the following day and in accordance with a female manual he had all the features you'd expect there was a sign that said everyone must check in it says right in the manual everyone must check in with a controller upon arrival well here's an interesting connection then the head of FEMA was here in New Zealand right before the Christchurch Quake happened in 2011 he was here with nine U.S. congressman who all jumped on a plane except the head of FEMA and then the Christchurch Quake happened he was there to coordinate the relief effort and it was incidentally a disaster relief drill that the New Zealand military was conducting on the day of the Christchurch earthquake they were parked in little tin harbour and had a ship full of food blankets and supplies how about that folks what luck what frickin luck okay Vinnie your spot on your spot on that earthquake was very very strange not only that but it revealed a Mossad squad there in Christchurch because the Tom Ellie structure crushed a car and killed a Mossad member the unit fled back to Israel this is quite analogous to this quite analogous in the dancing Israelis who responded at liberty state park filming and celebrating the destruction of the twin towers when they were arrested the driver accepted the arresting office or we're we're not the problem your problem is our problem the problem is the Palestinians they were held for 71 days until the and assistant to John Ashcroft that then attorney general declared their release and returned to Israel where three of them went on his Railey television to explain they were there to document the event implying of course Israeli for knowledge because 9-11 was brought to us compliments of the CIA the Neocons in the Department of Defense most of whom were dual US Israeli citizens and the Mossad and it was all for the purpose I've already spotted namely to draw the United States into the Middle East to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance Israel's domination of the entire region and then right around the time the Persian nation of Iran so well you you're right and that was right around the time when Iraq was going to start selling oil for gold and Afghanistan had stopped planting opium to sell on the US market for the CIA's drug money you know what the town is the work I know your video you're so spot on I mean the Taliban and all but eradicate the opium production the poppy many an officer has returned for Afghanistan to discuss because his primary job was protecting the poppy crops which is now at super abundance you know to keep the CIA the biggest drug running deal in the country in the world you know fat and happy they got hooked on drugs in Southeast Asia and they've continued in relation to the Middle East you're 100% right on target you know there's three things I want I want to quickly bring up back to that gun control if somebody has not seen the John lot presentation more guns less crime I suggest you do and then directly after that or perhaps before it watch the short documentary innocence betrayed innocence like as in a group of innocence betrayed and basically what these two documentaries will do one of you will give you a statistical analysis from a statistician John lot about why more guns equals less crime and it's actually an hour long presentation with a number of things in the very very good and informative and the second is basically a comicaling the 20th century's history of gun confiscations of governments from civilian hands and guess what happens every single time after the civilians got no guns and only the police and military do certain groups of people within those countries get fricking exterminated do you know what democide means ladies and gentlemen what my favorite words it's when you get exterminated by your democratically elected leaders democide it is the leading cause of unnatural death in the 20th century ladies and gentlemen and if we are not careful it will be the leading cause of death in the 21st century too and it will dwarf the amount of people who have been exterminated. Many of your 100% spot on there were 19 democides in the 21st century each of which was preceded by gun confiscation so I say here let's not make America the 20th don't let them take our guns in fact I have said time and time again when they come for our guns the time has come to use them. I think the you know the the option for violence or rather physical use of force in self-defense let's let's define that because violence comes from the Latin volare which means to violate by violence viola that's what it means because you don't have a right to violence you do have a right to defensive force because your body your soul your vessel that's yours and nobody can take it from you your money your property nobody can take that from you and if they try you have a right to defend yourself and they have abdicated their rights to life if they try to take yours okay somebody tries to take your life they no longer have a right to theirs and you're perfectly within your rights to kill them okay not because you're a murderer but because you don't want to die right in this instance and because this person has attacked you you are defending yourself and you are preventing your death and perhaps the death of many more to come because when murderers are not stopped they get a taste and they go out for more and we deal with intelligence agents and think things of that nature and that was the third thing I did want to add on to this is explaining the situation of those and Israeli intelligence agents that got discovered during the Christchurch earthquake in 2011 now at the time a lot of people don't know this but our our Jewish Prime Minister John Key and when I say Jewish I don't mean to race I mean to religion because I've seen the mainstream media of him going to a Jewish temple wearing a Yarmica and doing his prayers and all of that kind of thing so Jewish Prime Minister then gets I think it was a number of calls from Benjamin Netanyahu's office within hours of the Christchurch quake demanding that he allow those agents to get let go and yeah we let him go and they jump back on a plane and they went back to Israel what an interesting thing to happen here now what they were caught with is also very interesting they were caught with a number of New Zealand passports as you were saying Jim about dual Israeli citizenship that kind of thing these people had a number of passports New Zealand citizenship passports why because New Zealanders and Canadians our passports are the highest prized black market passports in the world okay somebody comes into your country what country are they from are they from like the least suspicious country in the world Canada and New Zealand yeah okay I'll put them in the perfect passports for agents so the allegation is that these agents were here in New Zealand to steal our passports take them back so that they could travel in and out of any countries that they want without raising suspicion as a perfect cover now and our Jewish Prime Minister who used to work at Goldman Sachs sorry not Goldman Sachs Merrill Lynch let them go after that now this is not the first you know foreign intelligence agents that have on our soil that our our country just let go in fact we had one person get killed in a bombing of the green pieces rainbow warrior back in the mid 90s and in fact a friend of my brothers was the one who actually pointed out where the French agents had come to shore after their attack on a little in a little diny and stuff like that so any video I'm sure you like collars as much as I I'm going to give out a number for anyone who'd like to call into the show today 540 3524452 I repeat 540352 4452 Mitchell will take your call and he'll let us know and we'll get you on the air Vinnie I'm enjoying this immensely there will be a break on revolution radio but on your network we can continue our conversation listen revolution radio freedom foots dot column will be right back welcome to revolution radio where you the listeners are in charge here at revolution radio we present a broadcast hours of use and information each end every day revolution radio never sleeps revolution radio is worldwide and borderless information revolution radio is also commercial revolution radio is supported 100% by you the 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taken the opportunity to continue his show on the sidelines channel and whether we'll get it back and it's not clear I want him back but let's see what happens I've given the number 540 352 52445255 let's see can we bring you can we bring you back can we bring you back viny I'm back great wonderful wonderful I'm sure you took four for it to do it in full advantage of that break I can't imagine what you were saying during that break but anyway I'm glad to have you back I think we have a caller already standing by Mitchell if Mitchell can bring him in I'll be very glad of Mitchell what we got an airy code for our caller in any case viny I'm just a real pleased to have you here and I don't mind that we have different points of view I mean that's what makes these shows interesting I learned very little from those who agree with me but potentially quite a lot from those who don't and I'm just fascinated the extent to which you are in harmony with the maxi again and you're taken on these things I have done about five interviews about it published it all five blogs about it those on my side include Robert David steel they include Greg Hallett whom I've already mentioned you yourself have mentioned Oli Toma guard Scott Bennett who's a former army siopson intel officer also would side with me when Greg Hallett brought up that the guns were fake and he even discovered where you could find them online I was very impressed and I reached out to someone I knew to be an expert on weapons because he builds and rebuilds customizes and that's Gordon Duck the senior editor of veterans today and he confirmed Greg suspicion he said he knows weapons world wide and that the features of that weapon don't correspond to any weapons with which he is familiar I'm very interested to and you're taken on the fact that they're suppressing this video so massively imposing these huge penalties if you even possess it surely that has you suspicious that they're trying to cover up what turns out to have been just a very amateurish we have done video that you know is really self-refuting I would put it that way you're taken Vinny and again let's think about facts versus facts rather than opinions versus opinion the majority let's say the majority of people once upon a time believed the earth was flat or that vaccines were safe or that fluoride is good for your teeth or whatever all these things that you know people would dispute at the time and they would argue and what heavy but it was based on opinion not not facts and evidence so it's irrelevant to me how many people are on one camp or the other because what we risk there in that mode of argument is a tribal is a moralist they're saying that there's one tribe against this one tribe for this idea and that creates conflict that creates confusion and indeed when we're talking about you know truth it matters not what one's opinion is because reality does not care what one's opinion is and this video again I completely am in the dark on this one okay so for two particular reasons number one it's illegal for me to look at it so how would my opinion go if it was for something that's illegal for me to look at my opinion cannot really be valued here and so therefore I've had to rely on perhaps Max Egan's analysis who who has done you know full analysis and everything like that but I can't even see his analysis because it's illegal for me we do have the collar from 403 Eric Cog we have a collar please give us your name and state and join the conversation with me and Vinnie Eastwood that reminds me before the word of the picture hi I come from Calgary out bird of Canada okay from Calgary please do tell us give us share your opinion your thoughts well I just wanted to when I heard that Vinnie was on I thought I'd give a call to him because I've been following him for a long long time in fact few weeks ago I I thought one of your best very good interviews was I am videos with how do we live it how do we stay true with Mark Pascio and James Corbett yeah that was a good one remember that one oh I can forget it yeah I you've worked hard for where you where you are and I congratulate you and I and I really appreciate your truth your honesty and your vision and one task you how are we as Canadians or as New Zealanders going to get away from and even Americans to the bootstraps of Britain well New Zealand is essentially a let me let me just put it like this you know the Cayman Islands reputation for being a tax haven that's run by organized crime and scumbaggery just for the benefit of the Bank of England imagine that New Zealand is the South Pacific version of that and then you have actually a very clear picture of how New Zealanders actually run by of by and for organized crime and we are 100% all for the New World Order agenda I've done a playlist on my channel where we go through every single political party that had a chance of getting into New Zealand's last election that elected Jacinda Rdun the Rdun criminal like and they've all got sorted backgrounds that are without exception and this is every prime minister back to the 1970s connected directly with organized crime and globalist groups and clubs who want to international sovereignty so what's problematic is when people talk about you know resistance against the New World Order how are we going to do it where should we fight from and that kind of thing you know your home okay you know your roads you know your community or at least you can if you if you wanted to go and find out you could and that would make you far more capable of defending your home than anywhere else and there's this quote from Robin Hood Prince of Thief that I've given on a couple of shows lately I have seen full nights in complete armor shaking at the first signs of battle and I have seen an unarmed squire pull a spear from his own body to defend a dying horse one free man defending his home is more powerful than 10 hired soldiers now I think that this is a very powerful kind of concept that wherever you are in this world there is no escape from a new world order and we must institute the word valor valor is not courage it is not bravery these things are fleeting and disappear the second after their need is gone valor is when you approach an enemy a task a challenge so gargantuan and insurmountable that your failure and even your death is virtually guaranteed but you stand and you fight anyway because it is the right thing to do we have exceptional power each and every one of us to defend our homes and I believe that is what is obliged for all of us well defend our homes but also defend our own our own gifts that we were given by the divine our consciousness you can call it universal consciousness our consciousness right hmm and what was it somebody was asking me somebody said to me hey video is the earth flatter is the earth rounds and I go well actually it's a holographic fractal representation of collective consciousness co-creating itself all right now so so what that means is essentially all things that we do whether I'm telling a joke on the radio or whether you're helping somebody across the street who is infirm there is a ripple effect upon everything that reflects her out upon the entire universe every action we do every thought that we have has a reflection within the ethereum and I think that it behooves us to be as good and as grand as we possibly can for we have no other option but to oppose evil and scumbaggery in all its forms and in fact that's that's my shoot that I'm wearing right now in Australian listener donated me this about 10 years ago says I heart to expose scumbaggery the Vinnie Eastwood show I like when it those shirts you know that's the problem everybody was like we like those shirts we like all the stuff and it's like I'm a one man band doing all of these things and it's like oh there's so many things I've got on what essentially when you've got a million videos to edit and live streams and all of that kind of thing the problem becomes hmm how big is my list of shit that I'm never gonna get around to at this point you know every every activist has one and I think the getting shirts and things like that that would be great but I but I need help like real assistance in my real life because I'm such a procrastinator and a useless bastard most of the time but we have another caller I think now yes we do we do we have another caller from 704 Eric co-bleex give us your name and state and join the conversation did I misread the Eric code caller are you there well I'm at the 403 numbers here but not I don't know but the other one oh you know what I'm here okay go ahead and speak right up speak right up give us your name and state I'm sorry I had myself on mute which is very interesting anyway yeah it's Frank in North Carolina yeah I'm enjoying the conversation and particularly was found compelling Vinnie's distinguishing the difference between violence and the meaning of that word and what I believe he the the term he used defensive force and that's very thought provoking on that subject and I I really liked that I've actually wrote down some notes on that you want to on that note I stole that from Mark Passio and he stole it from ancient times this is not new knowledge there's nothing new under the sun but one of the best interviews that I've ever done with Mark Passio on this subject is called doing the shadow work doing the shadow work Mark Passio Vinnie eastwood if you go watch that thing both of us go deep into like how we had to change ourselves and had to improve ourselves in order to be better men than we already were you know what I'm saying and yes and I've heard the I've heard the term actually I know a guy that I talk to on a daily basis and he uses the term all all the time and because I have to caution him quite a bit basically because he he likes to talk about you know you can't take violence off the table but he always coins that he always says you know he it's defensive force yeah but anyway you got to be very careful about that even more and more as time goes on you know as far as doing research and whatnot I'm not on the internet very much I have all these numbers that I listen in to different shows and I heard you guys were on and so I tuned in and on my phone and on the listen line and but you know when it comes to you guys have any thoughts that you could share with me on I have a background as a researcher and an investigator oh we seem to have lost you then have you accidentally took the brain brain did we lose you Mitchell maybe you can bring Frank back then he let me make a comment on a couple things you said before about opinions sure I mean we are all entitled to our opinions but all opinions are not equal and you know it's related to two different kinds of fallacies one you were implying is it the truth or falsity of an opinion isn't a function of its source or its origin and that's completely correct you could have a very unworthy source that nevertheless had a true opinion or a sound argument whereas a more worthy source might not on the other hand it's interesting to draw the distinction between the fallacious and the non fallacious appeals to authority a fallacious appeal to authority occurs when someone who's an expert in one area like a barbers an expert on haircuts is cited as though they were an authority on another area say child birth you know so a the brawl for the barbers says that women who giving birth is easy and women who complain or just sissy's that's a fallacious appeal on the other hand when it comes to persons who actually are expert in their area then I amstein on physics for example obviously when to be a non fallacious appeal to authority and the reason I mentioned people like Robert David steel and Scott Ben and others including Gordon Duff is because they are experts in the area of sorting things out when it comes to false flags so I don't believe it's quite as amenable to the dismissal you were providing there I think we want to give them some weight to their considerations but I love your articulate fashion you have a great style and I understand tracks back Frank your back just in time go right ahead continue well how long have I been gone because I've been talking all this time you've been gone a minute to a minute and a half free well I don't know what to start from the beginning brother yeah yeah you you were saying how you you know you listened to you like what Vinnie said about the difference when you violence and the form of defancy resistance and he said came from Mark Passio so you can pick it up there Frank oh boy I've covered a whole lot of ground oh hey I'm sorry man it's a good time to assist at tunes of live radio in the internet go right ahead Frank well yeah and I I'm not new to that term I know a guy uses that term quite a bit and I'm always having to caution him you know look I'm not going to talk about violence over the telephone you know because you have such things as agent provocateurs and things like that and he says well you can't take violence off the table and then and then he'll change it up he'll call it defensive force so I'm familiar with the term I'm not sure where he got it from but he's been using it for years but he got it from Mark Passio as well and one of my listeners in the chat room here is demanding I say the word Tar Heel and I don't know what he's asking me to say that. Well you never see what he's going to do it. Vinnie Frank's from North Carolina and the teams from the University of North Carolina where I taught at Chapel Hill are the Tar Heels. Whoa now I know I hear you when you called into different stations. Well thank you we're putting up for you. That's what I'm doing for a while here. I continue with your the line of development you had. Well you know as far as research I have a background in investigations and doing research and whatnot and you know both for my own you know education and edification and and also you know privately professionally for money so I do know a little bit about it and the discipline required you know some of the discipline involved and you know like for example I was just wondering if you guys had any thoughts on like chain of custody for example of evidence you know when you're going and looking for facts about events or crimes and you know things like that and you know like for example say you know the event the shooting that was alleged to have happened in San Diego you know so it you throw out okay they couldn't have happened because the school was closed it had been it was closed at that time it wasn't even open so it wasn't even in operation and then you find out well it also people are reporting that it was condemned sometime earlier and also you know obviously was not in operation at that time. My question is do you guys have any thoughts on like the chain of custody and how many sources you need and and and how you go about finding out okay now whe