Martin and Irvine on Vince Foster

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The telephone conversation about the listen to took place on March 16, 1994. It was between me, David Martin, and Rita Irvine, the head of accuracy and media conservative organization in Washington. It's my recollections first time we had talked to one another and we're talking about the Vence Foster case. It was telephone conversation and I didn't know at that time that he recorded all his telephone conversations and this is recording of it. At that time, there were a lot of things we didn't know about the Vence Foster case. We were kind of groping around in the dark. The reporter Chris Ruddy, a couple of months before, had come on the same with some revelations and it's clear that both of us trust him at that time, which was not well advised, we had learned later. Also, the part, not even the part police report has been released. Much less the Fisk report can star him, been appointed to replace Fisk. I report to Rita Irvine and read in the post that the part police were turned away from Vence Foster's house. Night's body was found at Fort Margie Park. That was later shown to be untrue with the part police's own report. That was released later that summer. The post never printed the retraction or revision. They just went with the new story, like nothing had happened. It was also kind of an intriguing dead end that we should have followed up on the question of whether Foster had signed out from his office. That means was he really claiming to leave for the day. Later, I was told by a colleague who had worked for the company and that installed a surveillance equipment that it would have been easy to see or what time Foster left, whether he left with somebody else, then he left the White House grounds, the compound. He could have left his office. He could have seen leaving the actual White House, but he could have been just going next door within the compound to the old executive office building, where the other parts of the legal office were located. It's really very significant whether at what time and with whom he left the White House grounds. I raised that question later with Ruddy. He got back to me a couple of days later saying that his source within the White House had told him that Clinton had had all the surveillance cameras taken out, because it cramped his Tom Cattie style, which is preposterous on its face. I should have known at that point that Ruddy was a funny, but it's a key question. But we know a lot more now. You can see all I've written on the Foster case, then we knew at the time that he read or vinyna had this conversation. We've got Chris Ruddy in the New York Post report. He's down in Little Rock, he's going to call in. There we have him for a while, and we've got a New York detective, a retired detective, the Indian St. Scully, who's coming down to talk about the technical aspects of the case. I was kind of wondering if you might like to participate. Join in the fun. Not quite sure, just what you don't protest on any technical expertise. I don't know, yes, but you do. You're having a lot of thought to it. This fact that you brought out about Burl Anthony's first reaction, I was thinking maybe you'd feel like getting you to say a few words about possible motives. The only thing that I want to say, big questions is what motive would there be for murdering him, but then the other question is what motive would he have for committing suicide? There seems to be no satisfactory answer to either question, really. Well, there are many more. If you just look at it completely objectively, the motives for his murder look stronger than murder, but then the motive for his suicide. What motive do you think? Well, it is very convenient that a person who knows outside the immediate family who knew more about the Clinton finances is beyond subpoena. That was my truth. And I noticed one of the Hitler signs in Clinton's outweighs somewhere and the signs that wanted rent fostering no. You have a US July, white water is not the big issue that's become the only thing that was on the video on the horizon as I recall at that time was the well at David. There was the court issue for Hale's office. It certainly hadn't happened last week or something like that. I think things were getting pretty hot, but things weren't really pretty hot for Clinton. I mean, he was kind of recovering from the head recovery substantially from the earlier travel gate and haircut. It was really better that he has his head already night. So why would he have had... Well, there was no reason for foster on the face of it to have been particularly upset about anything. And certainly that letter, that note that they say they found that doesn't. It doesn't sound like anything particularly serious. I mean, you're done. And get all over. No, for a guy like that. He says, pretty bright guy and really very stable. He doesn't see anything any reason there. He always brings up the answer. Now, the others, their various speculations, one guy that I know says that he thinks that he was a paleoid, told him that he had been having a fair and coming to Washington. And they couldn't go on with this. He was unhappy about that. But it's something you might find in a 16-year-old, you're not likely to find a 46-year-old reacting that way to... Yeah, kicked over by your mother. And so I don't find that very persuasive. No, I think it has to do with really high finances. And possibly it is connected to white water. But if white water is really much more scandalous than anything we have yet had an inkling of. And their terrible secret did miss about it. Would suggest that there is something much more scandalous than they realized. One story I heard that the last word he said to his wife, he let this... What have I gotten myself into or something like that? I hear that he didn't sign out. Well, I was told that too, but the source that told me that is giving me so much more information. Well, this is something you really got to look out for, I think. It's people trying to discredit these people by giving them bad information. The same source. And maybe you've been in touch with you. And it's like Mike Callahan. He was my Callahan. He claims law enforcement, background connections. I've talked to him a few weeks ago, he's gone down the low. He said, no, he knew he's going to see her when he went down there. He's calling up yesterday and he's going to be seen her. And he said, no, she's under 24 hours surveillance by the FBI. The widow. Yeah. That was my Marina Oswald, I think. It's something that I think we ought to check out and see whether that's the FBI spending tax money to guard her. I still wonder if they guarding her from somebody or they guarding somebody from her. I could understand that the pretence always of guard Marina Oswald was the feeling of the people in the country again and all of that. But in this case, quite contraire. They only have sympathy for her. I don't hear anything because somebody is, we keep it in my honor to keep it from talking. I didn't have a very brief conversation with her by phone to find out whether he was right there or left there. She said, no comment, no comment, even on that. Well, it's, you know, the suspicion is that her phone is tapped. I would, I would definitely out that suspicion. The fact is that she's, you know, she's been so silent on this whole issue. 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Probably get that written into the policy. So make sure it's a policy that's stealing that he can't tell when you're what might happen to you down the road somewhere. I think there for any contingency. I mean, one reason I work right is that I don't see how they can court law your Hamilton keeps saying no comment to every question. How could you say no comment to questions about the life insurance? What does that have to do with the police? No, he's not as suspicious if they no comment that questions about life. Well, the question about Hamilton is who's being his bill? Is he the lawyer that she hired? He was somebody that was... Well, that gets back to the evening of the visit to the house. The Washington Post stated that the police went immediately as they should have to foster his home to park police. And we're turned away. They intimate by her lawyers. Well, why would she have a lawyer so quickly? Why would she not want to talk to the police? She must have as many questions as they do. They would be natural allies to get together here. That to me is the most incriminating thing of all. That was in the Washington Post. That was in the Washington Post that they were turned away. Now, I talked to the spokesman Hines about that. And he says it's not true that they were turned away because my question was what private attorney could turn away the police from their appointed grounds, their duties. And he agreed. Now, that's not possible, but she was so broken up that they didn't choose to talk to her. They made some like was voluntary that they went away. He's slippery. There's a lot of things, a lot of people. Yeah, he's such an unreliable person. He told me so many different things. First, there was no exit when the boat didn't make it. First, he was shutting them off. They held the gun away from his mouth. They did more sticks testing. Well, apparently, there's Hamilton as a key character in the cover-up, it would say. And this is a real good question, who's paying even a lot, which he needs in attorney. So quickly, what's wrong? He has, I think, read what it was now. Somebody told me that his connection was, he has a Hillary connection, I think. Well, yes, he was on the same water guy coming with this bomb in Hillary. He was able to know that he was on the committee. Yes, they both go back. I'll three go back to my head. So he's on this bomb Hillary. And he's protecting their interests, not her interests. Yeah, personally. Yeah, it must be somebody in that family. Somebody else pointed out the emphasize to me recently. He said, you know, it's much better for the family if the person has been murdered than if they've committed suicide. Absolutely. And then you look at all of these mysterious cases like these military families who are fighting the fighting of suicide. It's just natural. Like the case that the Washington Times pointed out of the stabbing victim that they had the same pathologist on that. It came too easily. Yeah. And in the middle, there's another one, the kid named Tom Birkitt. That's right. That's right. I'm Franklin Farm. That similar type that was very similar to Foster's is shut in the mouth. Yeah. And of course that one hasn't been overturned yet. But kind of perhaps a really raisin hell about it as he would expect. Yeah. Well, the Kellyan told me that he was involved in this. And he said the body exceeded the pathologist he has had in the rest of the suicide. It was the same pathologist in the Birkitt. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Fighter. Fire. Right. Yeah. Right. But let it to the editor of the Washington Times and defense of the guy makes it raise more suspicions, I think, and seeing his military connections and many things like he would be compliant to the authorities. Whatever they want to come up with. Yeah. 76 years old. He's been practicing for 50 years, nearly 50 years. But apparently he's gone too far and being compliant by finding a depression on the trigger franger. And then that was reported in the last year. Times there. Yeah. They produced these photographs showing the thumb on the trigger. Well, you know the same was. I think the reason was he had a depression on his thumb. Listen, I've got a long distance. I'll take your, um. Wait, you, you could be interested in anything tonight. I, it's nine to ten lives over here. I really, I don't think that I would have given that much. Well, okay, I appreciate your thinking about me. I'd like to watch it if it's on our cable. Are you in Fairfax? I'm in the air. GDLE. Media General. Channel 104. 104 and nine to ten. Nine to ten. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Bye.