Mae Brussell Charles Manson Was a Patsy October 13,1971

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This is dialogue assassination with research specialist May Bresel. For KLRB, I'm Gloria Barron. Well, May, we promised them last week that you would be doing the Manson trial this week. And I guess from the looks of things, you're ready. Yes. I'm ready and I'm not ready. I would like a lot of hours on this, but it's really big. And we'll get right into it. I had 10 other subjects I wanted to talk about today, but it will do a The Manson story. So we'll go into Gloria right away. Because in this world, in this strange world of covert overthrow of the governments and clandestine armies and secret operations, the problem we're facing is you're working with two realities. You're working with what we assume is the real way to function and move. And then we're working with a system of what we call power, exchange of power, economic power, power over people controlling their lives. And in order to do that, you disguise certain persons and send them into roles to influence, they take, they become actors on a stage and they influence our minds in a way that is not real, but affects a reality that will touch us later. Apropos of the Manson thing, the Oda trial, the murder of the Oda family with accused murder of Frazier goes to trial Monday. It's in the paper today. That was not a hippie murder. I've said it before. They took the trial out of Santa Cruz up to Redwood City. You'll do a show on the Oda trial, but because the Manson trial affects this particular geographic area, it's close to us. It's close to home. California was where the flower children were. Big Sur was the home of people like John Valleys, Henry Miller, Freesols, artists, Raulman, California was an important state in terms of conspiracies to kill candidates and presidents and to affect national policy and it's probably the military industrial complex. I'm going to explain why the Manson trial, why the murder of Sharon Tate and the other persons in her home was a political massacre. Other researchers have done work on the John County, Robert County, Martin Luther King. I was the first researcher in the United States to turn the other people's minds to the fact that the same lawyer is the same plan or is the same teams originated. This particular massacre and what effect it would have on our society had to be planned well in advance of when it happened. I'm going to give you my conclusions on the Manson. I called the Manson trial because nobody talks about it being Charles Watson, Manson or that's the boy who killed seven people. But the news media associates the named Charles Manson, he made the picture on the cover of life. He is the man that you associate with killing Sharon Tate. Many people don't even know the name Charles Watson because you're not supposed to know it. Right now there's a hung jury in Los Angeles on the decision of whether Charles Watson is guilty of murdering seven people. He was in the home, he did the stabbing 40 times, he wrote this to the pig on the door, the jury can't decide if he was guilty. Now my conclusions are number one that all of these persons involved, the major people are agent provocateurs. They come at a time to increase violence to come down on a segment of our society prior to an election year and to make law and order necessary to protect us from the people at large in our society. Number two, Charles Manson was a Patsy. He is identical, historically, to Lee Harvey Oswald, Sir Hans, Sir Hans and James Ray. Charles Manson killed nobody in the Sharon Tate home or in the Bianca home. He was being charged with these murders, he didn't kill any one of these seven people. He was used, he was eight person, been in jail 22, of his 32 years of life, he was the project of our penal system. He was not a hippie or probably the youth culture, they bought him a guitar, let his hair grow and put a leather jacket on him, gave him money, gave him a bus and credit cards and told him to do his thing. It was like James Ray was in a part of our penal system, he was in Missouri in a jail and he was met with certain persons and the next day he was out and there was $23,000 of money spent and he traveled continents and everywhere and he was to be used at a certain time in place. Charles Manson was identical to James Ray as a product of our penal system. He was used by the news media to slam down on the hippies. We could do one hour on the news control of how your brain is shaped to believe that Charles Manson made a robot of a nice white Christian boy from Texas, this terrible kind of a criminal mind. He was used and I'm going into my background on these opinions because they may be startling people who think they're knowledgeable on our economy or on the other assassinations who never believed the Warren report. Throw up their hands, I spoke to somebody just this morning before I came to the studio and said I was doing a story on Manson and this particular person educated in forms that that's something I'm not interested in Manson, I never would think about that particular human being. And people turn off on the Manson. But this is the way mine was going in 1963 I told you how I was studying the death of John Kennedy starting November 22nd. I was studying the use and the misuse of power after the president and I say it's a bit killed. I was wanting to know who killed him, what kind of people they were, what was their interest, what was their philosophy, what was their politics. How many of them believe that Adolf Hitler should have won World War II? How many of the people involved in that assassination worked in our State Department, defense industry, or had important government positions like on cabinet now or in Republican National Committee, this kind of thing that is current today, I've been staying since 1963. I studied the Cold War, the military industrial complex in the United States, what we formerly called capitalism versus communism, which now is a disguised fascism with the electoral process over versus communism. And I studied the economic and philosophical policies of both systems and the religious revolution that was going on simultaneously. In April 1967, the Greek government was overthrown by a military hunter. There is a book, I tell you, have your pencil ready for the program. I want you to write down this book. It's pertinent to the Manson, Sharon Tate Massacre, it's called Death of a Democracy, Greece and the American Conscience, it's written by Stephen Russo. And when Greece was overthrown, the excuse for the hunted to take power and end, the electoral process was that there was tension in chaos, and they had to prevent that, they had to prevent the male election. The man who was running to be the president of Greece was Pavondru, who captured the imagination of the young people. Now, I'm reading a quote from the book Death of Democracy. Pavondru captured the imagination of young people, and many members of the professional and intellectual classes. He was popular in Greece, he was linked psychologically with the late president Kennedy, he was a man of style and intellect, and they thought for the first time in 30 years they would get a program growing where they'd have a democratic government for the first time. And the people in power felt that no one should tamper with their existing institutional structure. And they kept the power and canceled the elections. Now the edicts in Greece, when Greece was overthrown, were the following. If it was an economic problem or political problem like we don't want communist, we have to say it from communist, that's one thing. But the edicts that I noticed in 1967, in April, when Greece was overthrown, and I copied in my newspaper right away, I was reading the daily papers because I was studying power and exchange of power. The United States had exchanged power of studying Greece. I study every country, and these were the edicts. No gathering in the open country avoid the five persons and no gathering in any close space at all. No anti-national propaganda such as anti-war or anything against the public official. No marches or descensions. And we will now have what Rousseau described as a period in orgy. There would be no beards or long here on the men. No mini skirts on the girls. The tourists included everyone in Greece had to attend a Sunday church, Sunday church, mandatory. They called it a Christian coup because the Jews traditionally do not go to church on sunny. But if you did not go to church on sunny, you could be exiled to an island and arrested. That it was similarly in position in Spain. The students were to turn in every old history book they had, and it would be replaced with a new one. Racial purity was proclaimed in the theories of Darwin and D'Viris were thrown out. They were ordered to protect their Christianity on a public order that was passed in 1942 by the Nazis. Nazis it was reviewed again. All legitimate theaters were to submit their scripts. Does this sound in the quote for one that does it sound like our own local theater where they're asking power play recently in a theater in town here in Carmel, where the director was removed because they wanted to examine the scripts. Now let's get back to the quotations. They wanted the right to delete scripts or rewrite scripts anywhere from the Greek tragedies to the modern. Every play from antiquity to the present was to be censored. Music would be selected. Bob Dylan, the Beatles, wouldn't be allowed at all. No music from Chakazky, Prokhov, or any Russian composer, even prior to the Russian Revolution. Greek was quickly transformed into the first fascist dictatorship on European soil since Mussolini and Hitler. I looked at those edicts and I knew that the one problem in the United States was going to be a revolution that was coming along in our country because just as I analyzed in 1963 in November 22nd, I said to myself, this chap Ruby in that jail to kill Oswald to silence him, my brain began to work with what I was reading about the edicts in Greece because these were not communist edicts. This was a sociological thing. And I knew in the summer of 1967, or this was the spring when it was happening, that something very big in the United States was coming to a head. Because I live in the peninsula here. I'm close to a movement that was growing, going back and forth from San Francisco to big service, spending my summers at Sir. I could see something really good in a true Christian, Judea Christian tradition. People making it on, sharing their housing, sharing their food, wrapping. And I realized that in this country, we had a revolution. There was a revolution of hairstyle, clothing, cosmetics, transportation, housing, value system, churches. There was an economic revolution that affected cosmetic industry, canned foods, grocery revolution, dietary habits, dwellings, the use of land, no longer needing dwellings, being outdoors, no high rent for each separate family, sharing one place. People were delivering their own babies and so spending 250 dollars for the obstetrician. They were recycling old clothes, going to the goodwill, making their own things, wearing burlabs, sharing, doing without withdrawing from spectator sports or amusement, sitting and watching people throw a pigskin ball back and forth. These are revolutions. They're revolutions economic, sociological. They were breaking the boundaries where white and black could rap. They lived together, they slept together. You didn't know if somebody's background if they were rich or poor. You didn't know if they were Jew or Gentile. Those boundaries were thrown out the window in 67th. Greece was putting them back, but America was throwing them out to window. And the country club thing was going by the wayside. And zoning laws were ignored if you have a zoning place in the fancy residential. The children are leaving those homes. They're living where there is no zoning. They're up on the land in the communes. They've left their parents in their big homes and they leave the zoning laws behind. They just split and real estate values are affected because the kids are going to buy the house with the picket fence any longer and live to people in that dwelling. This was an economic, sociological necessity. The device system existed in terms of capital. So we're to survive that the land, corporation and other think tanks in America decide what to do for the United States of America. And this was the year of the Beatles. It was the summer of Sergeant Pepper, the Monterey Pop, hate Aschbury, the Renaissance. Make your own candle, turn off your electricity, sit, turn on with your friends and wrap it over what is life all about. The generation was born with an atomic bomb over their head. They weren't going to live long anyway so there wasn't that much time for hate and they were really making it. My car was filled with kids, hitchhikers everywhere. I picked strangers off the street. They slept in our home, slept in the yard studio. Monterey Pop came in and that weekend, maybe they were there every day and I picked people off the road and the house was filled. It was the most beautiful thing. I still have yard furniture. They all painted chairs and tables and everyone pitched in. It was just human beauty and they were making it together. It isn't the way it was meant to be made by US steel and general motors and Kaiser aluminum. They want to sell you your own car in your own house and your own washing machine and dryer. So in my cross filing system, because you see this is summer of 67 and I've been on the assassinations for four years. I started a file called Greece because I didn't watch Greece at all until the coup. But the edict's worried me and I said is this a test case of what the United States could do to its people if it had to because those edicts were set up very strangely if it was a communist versus a right wing coup. And I did all the research up to the present day, anything that comes about Greece. Melinda McCurry was on a national television show this morning. I watched her talking about Greece. It's current. So I watched who overthrew Greece. I watched the Pope's foundation. They've talked about the money. They're the men that siphoned the money. Standard oil, New Jersey, linked with Richard Nixon, Donald Nixon, Spiro Agnum. Who Agnus and Greece today as we talk? And I have a file that started in 67 and every article from all the magazines or books that I could get follows up. Who overthrew Greece, the Linton industry, the fascists in this country, put those edicts in there. Now they put them in there and it worked. They could put them down on us. So I have another file in 67 that I started along with my John Gennie because I told you before I have 1,600 subject categories of current news. And I started a file called Hippies because articles in 67, it was a sociological phenomenon we're coming out. And in the envelopes I have, I began articles like who recognizes something good in this movement, who is putting it down. What is their philosophy? Hippies that were interviewed in magazines like Grand Parts or New York Times. What are they saying about themselves? What are people saying about them? And I realized that it was going to be stopped some way because it was taking hold. It captured the basic good that is in people. And I don't believe in the doctrine of original sin. I believe in original goodness. And these children had it, they have it. Somebody was going to have to get them. Yesterday's paper had an article that the head of the whole Navy of Vietnam, South Vietnam, said you're going to have to rule out sex. They have a Navy of 40,000 men. And he said you're going to have to rule out sex. It's decadent. If you want to fight the Communist, you've got to stop that, you're a bunch of filthy worms, he said. They had the Navy of Vietnam. I'm sick. In order to really fight the Communist, you've got to stop your sexual activity. The Vietnamese Navy was told yesterday. Now this is the same people, Mr. Key and the fascists and the same people in Greece and the people in South Vietnam who are coming on the kids, their sexual fantasies, their fears that their kids could do what they never could do. I'd like to do a whole show on sexual repressions and fascism and coming down. So in the summer of 67, 68, I knew that the hippies were being handed out. I had a friend I met who worked at the diggers. And they were being handed bad acid by disguised agent provocateurs to begin to burn their bellies out and rob their minds and say, and the diggers were treading up there. This can be documented. And I know the federal government was throwing things out at pop festivals. And they allowed men like Melvin Bill, I worked with Jack Ruby, was the man in on the Aldermont thing that brings the pressure and will go on to that some other day on pop festivals and music and what happened to the music scene and the musicians at the Monterey Pop. So I was watching how the hippie scene would be put down and whatever it was that they had to crack. And in my neighborhood, I've mentioned two different programs. A man moved in from Texas. I think he gets tired of I talking about this as the last time I'll mention him. He was dressed as a hippie. He wasn't a hippie. He brought his children into this community. He lived a block from my house. He wrote a book for Henry Kaiser called Children of Change, a repeat for somebody who hasn't heard the show. A non-Eppie from Texas lived here for about one or two years, walking down the coast, going to the musical scene and wrote, just prior to the Sharon Tate murders, that the hippies would have made it. This is what Henry Kaiser published. Would have made it if number one, they had a sense of humor and number two, they weren't so violent. Now if anybody had a sense of humor, that generation did because there wasn't much to be funny about the way the Cold War was going after Korea and everything lying up. And I have a button collection. People have been in my home, see it. I started this around those years and I have a whole wall with thousands of buttons. And it's funny and they did have a sense of humor. The kids were beautiful and they laughed and they were very funny things. If you read the button, it's a sociological and on the sense of humor, that generation. I collect the car bumpers for a while. The stickers, but it got too expensive, so I stayed with the buttons. They did have a sense of humor. And there was no violence. There was no violence at all. And his same particular man referred to his wife and hippie women as witches. And she wasn't a witch. She was a very establishment. Texas girl who is the wife of a man, this man that was dressed as a hippie I said before is now at the Navy Postgraduate School. He's Navy, to be Navy Intelligence, how does it get into the Postgraduate School? His undergraduate work was a hippie on Big Sur Road, back and forth on the highway. So this particular man, he had his gun and his scopes and his knives and things. And I watched and there was no massacre. And I was watching the phenomena. How is our government going to handle it? Now in the summer of 1969, there was a murder in Hollywood, California, in which Sharon Tate, JC Brink, Mr. Frikowski, Abigail Folger, Steve Parent, Mr. and Mrs. Bianca were stabbed 44 times. The newspaper did not know who did the murders. But it read in my mind like a military ambush. It could be no other way. And it was described by people later as a military ambush. And for the reason that these many people were slaughtered, nobody heard a sign. There were dogs on the grounds that didn't say boo. There was a caretaker and a guest guy who didn't hear one gun go off and guns went off. They didn't hear any screaming. Nobody saw getaway cars. The place was completely destroyed. There was time to put hoods over the people, robes on their neck, leave signs and symbols that would come down on a particular group of our society, two groups, and split. And not a dog was killed or barked and the fellow that lives on the ground said he slept through it. And the telephone poles, they shimmed up the poles, cut the wires, left all his obvious evidence and split. The way the wires and lines were cut, I felt that it had to be a military type ambush. Now that toll effect was to appear or want to appear if they didn't catch the murders of these people, it would come down on the blacks. That was the hope. Now, it's very interesting in my research on the assassination that the very first man to publish an article on the Sharon date murder in my collection of the murders before they had a suspect. The murder was in August and they found the suspects in December was a man named Ed Butler. In October 69, he wrote an article, the man who publishes the newspaper that he writes for is Patrick Frawley, a shick-raiser, technicaler who is one of the third largest supporters of Richard Nixon, far right-wing person. And he hires Ed Butler to write articles for him. Ed is an agent provocateur who worked with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans. And when Oswald had the cover story that he was a communist because he did want to get into Cuba if he could, Ed Butler made a record for him. Where Oswald said he was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba and he was the only member of the New Orleans area in Ed Butler knew it. Ed Butler worked with Lee Harvey Oswald. So it's interesting that in 1969, the first person who has an opinion on who murdered the seven people would be Ed Butler. In my collection of articles, we have Ed Butler. Now what is his article called? It says, did hate kill, tade? And he goes into the fact that the black panthers did this murder because the panthers are tied in with the communist and the evidence is that the panthers killed these people to come into the middle class America and spread terror. Now this is what we call provocateurs, agent provocateurs, clandestine governments, where somebody is the first one in and he's tied in with all these other people and links and he is taking your brain now and your brain matter. In the event, they don't have a suspect. He is saying here are the clues. Number one, the hood over the drape bodies was the turnabout for the Ku Klux Klan. Number two, the rope found around their bodies, strung body to body is ironic reminder of lynchings. Number three, the words depth of the pigs that were squalled with the human blood over the front door was at a challenge to Blue Meenies. Remember the Beatles made a movie about Blue Meen? He's throwing the whole thing in. Number four, Time Magazine quoted an article that Jay Searing was supposed to be anti-black. So you see that Ed Butler has you in the palm of his hand. If they don't have a suspect, it is going to think that the blacks come into fancy residential homes and massacre these lovely white people. To make that even worse when the people were arrested, they admitted on their own volition that they took their credit cards from Mr. and Mrs. Bianca after they cut their bellies open and stuck, they went the ice box to eat and then took their forks and took their forks and their stomachs. They took out their credit cards and left them in the black part of town in Los Angeles so the people would think the blacks killed the Bianca's. To back up my own feelings, they every word from what these people said afterwards confirms what I knew they were doing. They were coming down. They could come down on two groups, one for sure. And if they're caught, they'll come down on the second. So the first group was to press fear that the blacks are now in our part of town, that they're commoners, they hate the rich. And then there goes into their motives and he says, well, one of the things is that Mr. Polanski is an expatriate from Communist Poland and we know the Panthers are commoners. And he said that the hate and propaganda here will make other people want to continue these murders. He said that the Panthers were doing this kind of murdering to test the stomach of America for future violence. Ed Butler, the authority on riots, he comes out all the time in the news. And he said that what he wants to see is how many of these massacres people will take a react and he's convinced that the blacks did this murder. But he is covered because when the actual facts came out, it turns out that it wasn't the blacks at all. So what are you left with now? You're left with a hippie group. You're left with this great hippie clan. And this is where the real problem comes in. As I said before and I'll say it over and over today, Charles Manson was not a hippie. Now when they arrested Charles Manson, Sue Atkins was in jail for stealing some parts to an automobile and the chick squealed. The police department didn't even have any clue in this murder at all. They didn't even want it. I know the Los Angeles police didn't want to find them. But the particular girl broke down in jail and told another woman and that's how they were found. The police department did not find them. They just like the FBI did not find James Earl White. Scotland Yard did it. When you just had one foot on a plane and one foot to road to Asia where he would never be extra-dited. Scotland Yard did the FBI didn't do it. So what happened was that the police had to go to where the Manson family lived. And what did they find there? They found what the newspaper described as a ritualistic killing done by self-confessed hippies in what they called a military style commune. Now how first the news media should define hippie, the word hippie. Because the hippie that I knew from 67 to 69 didn't mean a military operation. In any sense, we're knowing anybody else's mind in the world nor did it the rank of operation or the president of the United States or John Mitchell. Nobody did not mean military. It was anti-military. It was anti-war. It was let's get it together generation. So when they found the real killer and he has this beard and guitar, they just can't call them an ex-convict. They have to call them a military style commune. We must have military style communes in Vietnam if a commune is where people all lived together in your military. It's a military commune. But it certainly is a hippie commune. But they have to make it a hippie thing. Now what did they have in the commune? They had shacks with lookout points. They had telescopes. They had walkie talkies. They had military field telephones. They had collections of knives and shotguns. They had four wheel drive bicycles. The neighbors turned them in for threatening them. They drove all night and made so much noise. The neighbors said, you keep us away. You can make a awful killing if you don't shut off. They threatened their lives. And then the news media picked it right away. And evidently the crime had all the marks of premeditation. And they mentioned then that the telephone wires were cut at the Tate home. I remember that in August, but in December when they were discovered they went into the shears and the problem, the weapons. Now Sheriff Tom Montgomery of Colin County in Texas was taking care of his cousin at that time that the police came into this little commune where Sue Atkins was talking. His cousin Charles Tex Watson was safe in Texas. He was watched by this first cousin of his. He was described as clean cut, short hair. He was living a happy life. A girlfriend just survived there having pleasant sexual relationships. He was normal in every sense of the word. There were seven massacres that he didn't seem to bother him at all. He didn't even mention them too. He was not mentally sick. He was not depressed. He had done a good job. And when Charles Manson and the others were arrested in Los Angeles, they put this young boy Charles Watson in the jail with his cousin to take care of him. Now we're going into who was Charles Manson. The first one. We'll do that in just a moment. You're listening to dialogue assassination with Maybrezel. This is KLRB stereo FM Carmel by the Sea. Now, we're going to talk briefly about Charles Manson and Charles Watson and the implications in this particular case and how I follow it and why it's of interest to me. Because in every case, beyond what the news media tells you, you're looking for facts. You're looking like in the Oswald case, they tell you Oswald was a communist or he was a nistro in society. But then when I see my documents that he had cameras walking to Archea's electronic devices, security clearances, then I want to know more about Lee Harvey Oswald. And I want to know about Charles Manson because he was 32 and he did spend 22 years of his life in jail. Now a prominent attorney by the name of George Shibley, who works with groups in the Middle East and Beverly Hills has powerful connections. Get with Charles Manson just before he got out of jail at Treasure Island. And no one will know what conversation transpired between Mr. Shibley or why he was up there or why Charles Manson is unknown. This illegitimate child, a 16-year-old girl, no family or kin. No one would know how Charlie Manson would get such a famous Beverly Hills attorney to visit him before he's prouled. No one will ever know the conversation transpired between those men. But what we do know is that when Charlie Manson got out of Treasure Island in 1967 at the height of the Hague-Age Gracie, he had a bus in large bus and he did not buy it. He did not have a job. And he had credit cards for gasoline. Now in the trial, some subject was made up that one of the girls stole a credit card from her family to buy Charlie gasoline. I am sure the parents would have had him arrested before long. You can't go for two years on a stolen credit card. Charlie was never arrested. And one of the questions and one of the articles I have is it simply said he had a credit card. And in order to do a study of a covert operation or a murder or a simple murder, who paid the gasoline for Charlie Manson? Now I know being like that for 22 years and with a strong sexual drive you may have a maybe fun to have 20 or 30 chicks around you, but they still have to eat. They have to have housing. Who was buying the machine guns, the walking talkies, the dune buggy, even on the edge of the Mojave desert. They didn't steal all of it. None of them were how they ever arrested for anything. They had parts of expensive cars. They had material things that are warfare things and they didn't ever get arrested. And the gasoline, once in a while, is punishment. The girls would have to go out and take food out of garbage cans. That was their punishment, maybe for not sleeping with Charlie or a guest or something like that. But for the most part, none of them suffered malnutrition. They had healthy babies. They seemed to be doing very well. I guess at the ranch. Where was this money coming from? From the day he left that jail until the Sharon Tate murders. Just like I followed the money of the James Ray case from the day he left the Missouri jail, he went right to a trailer the first night that was open. There was wine there. There was everything but the welcome sign. And maybe that was there. And within a day he had a car. He soon he was on his way up to Canada to a resort, motel and a fancy place. Where did the money come from? The time Charlie Manson was in jail until the Sharon Tate murder. Now we go to Charles Watson. This was a clean cut boy who did these murders. He came from Texas. And the question was, where was he approached? How did he get into this case? Was it of his own volition? Last week on the Monterey Peninsula there was not equal paper that a boy was picked up as a hitchhiker in Santa Cruz. And he was thrown out of the car, you know, the Highlands and we talked about that a little bit on his show. And he was almost killed. And the subject of the conversation was that one of the four men who just about killed him, you know, was, he said I'm from the Manson family in Texas. And I caught my interest because I know that something very big in the planning stage of this particular massacre took place in the state of Texas. So I went to community hospital to discuss with this boy, this boy attended five years of college in the American system of education. He was about to go to the Peace Corps and go to the Philippines the next week. Was almost dead out at community hospital after just going out our beautiful coast and being picked up and roughed up by somebody who claimed to be from the Manson family in Texas. Now, we don't know much because it's never brought out these trials about the background of Charles Watson, except that he did appear with a beard and became part of the Manson family. But when Charles Manson was arrested, a law firm sent two lawyers went to Texas to see this particular boy, Charles Watson. The Judge David Brown said to the lawyers from Beverly Hills, California, you take the next plane back to California that I will put you in jail for 72 hours or find you if you don't get back to California. And the lawyers that vote, wait a minute, that's our client. We want to see him. The lawyer that wanted to see Charles Watson was named Mr. D. Loach. And he called a press conference at a Dallas hotel. And D. Loach said this at the press conference. He said, I came to see my client. That Charles Watson had been in his office in Los Angeles, California 30 or 40 times prior to the killing of Sharon Tate and the other six people in Los Angeles. The lawyer said his own background was that he was a Republican candidate for the state assembly in 1964 and he was chairman of the Young Republicans. And he belonged to law firm on Santa Monica Boulevard in Los Angeles. At the jail to keep Mr. D. Loach from seeing Charles Watson were 20 Texas Highway Patrolmen, Sheriff's Deputies guarding him and they fought the extra edition for eight months. Now when you're talking about conspiracies or going into every avenue that has to be developed, in the course of the trial, Mr. Watson claims for his defense, the Charlie Mance and masterminded him, programmed him that the hippie used magic, a Satan kind of thing to control him, to use his knife to kill these people. That prior to that time, prior to meeting Mance and he was not involved in any kind of violence or obligation. Now obviously no record publicly that Mr. Watson had a traffic violation or any kind of problem that this 20 year old boy needed an attorney from the Republican National Committee, the young Republican Committee, 40 times. I know what the expenses are to meet with any attorney even for one hour and people use attorneys or public defenders if they have small altercations. But to go to a prominent law office of a man named Mr. Loloach, 30 to 40 times prior to the time that you're going to kill seven people is worth investigating and it's particularly worth investigating because the boy isn't even really considered a criminal or murderer when the trial for Charlie Mance took place. This boy was in Texas and he didn't even, they fought the extra edition so he and later wouldn't be associated as part of that claim but as the robot or the project of that society. Now the psychiatrist claimed that when the decision was made to remove Charles Watson to California that he became a calutonic schizophrenic vegetable in a fetal position. Eight months in Texas he was doing just fine. He didn't lose a pound, he didn't lose a night's sleep. He was just having a good time and when the decision came to bring him to California, he became very sick. And now they have said the prosecution claims that he was faking this, that when the psychiatrists look at the other way he would take a different posture and he would talk to people. And the jury has been out for two days trying to decide if Charles Watson was guilty of those murders. They have to deliberate two days when it is common knowledge that he was in the home, he did the murders and Manson was never in the home where seven people were killed. Now if that is the topsy-turvy crazy world, I don't know what it is. Now how does your mind get affected to only associate the murder with one man and let the other man off the hook like this? I'm going to read headlines from this particular case just for a few days in December, the way they were reading coming off the press. The first article I told you was in October 69, did hate kill tape. That was the first opinion about who did it by Ed Butler. In November there was a very objective article saying the grand jury is to end the probe of these seven deaths. They don't know what to do. Now in December they began to be described Watson as an enclosed man. They called him a man. And Manson was the hippie, the guru Satan that influenced the man. The man did the killings and the hippie, guru, Satan influenced him. They had a line of December 2, said nomadic hippies in the tape murder. December the 3rd, three suspects and take case tied to guru. December the 4th accused killers lived no mad life with magnetic guru. December the 4th another paper said hypnotic killers, hippie bands, they're controlled by an evil genius. Another headline, father became a hippie looking for Sharon Tate clues. Sharon Tate's father dressed as a hippie, looked around with drug addicts and vagabonds for four months. He was an army intelligence and he was looking for hippies who killed his daughter. Another headline, these are the headlines, not sentences from article. A move to indict God. Another headline, the DA asked hippie cult indictment. Another one, inside the cult desert hideout, family members talk of black magic, sex, murder. You see the headline is putting all of these things in your heads but it's not telling you like the early articles about the military type of killing that it was. Another headline, Charlie Manson, nomadic guru. Thirded with crime. Another one, hippie family member describes the murder. Another one describes the murders as bizarre, twisted. Cult leader, fought at the war between the races, the cult leader. Mystic hippie, in quotes, used in buggies, maddened machine guns to trigger a negro versus white war. Another headline, hippie, satan, clan is indicted. Another cult leader, arraigned in slangs. Another headline, leader of a hippie cult held in isolated cell. Hippie leader in take case in maximum security. If they want to say they had ledger murder is in maximum security, he's a hippie leader in security. He's a hippie leader in isolated cell. Article, another article, the hippie mystique. Another one, the love and terror cult, the dark edge of hippie life. Fifth magazine published a cover of Lee Harvey Oswald holding a gun, the shadows, the discrepancies in the murder are horrendous. They implant in your mind. This is the boy. This is the gun. None of it was true. Five magazine had a cover. James Earl White Ray, this poverty-ridden depressed prisoner who killed Martin Luther King. They said he was an orphan. None of that was true. Remember his family was father's living. All of that was untrue. Remember of Wright magazine, December the 19th, large cover of Charlie Manson's eyes, all blown up. Not in Texas. Not one can understand the American phenomena of hostility behind a blue suit in a white shirt and a neck tie and short hair, the killer. Not wanting to know how the Whitman boys kill, how the college people killed, the brain children, one of the brightest children in this town, Charlie Watson. Nobody doing psychological sociological studies on the actual killers. No, life magazine has a cover of Manson. Nobody would sleep at night or give a kid on the road to Rod. Even you saw Manson's eyes. Not a champ. They called the love and terror cult. Then Richard Nixon comes into the act. Headlines. There is a man who was guilty directly or indirectly of eight murders without reason. They hadn't even come to a verdict in the trial. Richard Nixon was in on the act. John Mitchell got into the act. Then they headlines. Manson race theory rested on the Beatles. Then began a long attack on the Beatles. Now those are the headlines of one month in December. That went on for one year. The consequence is that in Carmel Valley or down to Big Sur, how many people would you pick up to date? How many people did you put in your car or give a lift to or take into your home? Who would you trust? Who is disguised as a hippie with a knife that is going to come down on you? I was in my neighbors home across the street for me one day and we were talking about something. A man from the police force in seaside, a black man had come there and he didn't know who I was and we were rapping. He had been down at Lyme Killin Creek and he had lived with hippies for two weeks and smoked their grass and probably enjoyed the sex and the relationships and the vibes. He was going home. He was on his way home to seaside to cling and shave and go down and make a bust on those people. Dressed as a hippie, beer. He was going to take his beard off. I have seen it. I have lived with it. You can't give a lift because the agent provocateurs, the covert government is working. It's working in our city and I can say it works on a national scale. You read in the paper, ST, maybe, how much of the Pentagon papers is not being published and why it's being withheld. The large part of it is the covert relationship to Vietnam, the agents in disguise in Laos or Vietnam are hidden war. The man's something is a hidden war. It's a hidden war against the youth and it worked. If you take enough agents and give them blades or give them money or give them insurance that if they're arrested they'll get off. They will mess up these kids. Somebody came to my home a few weeks ago who had hishtag across the country and it was really scary and he went to some town in Idaho and this sheriff says, oh, did we have fun last night? We took this nigger and he had to tie them up and dumped them in the river and got rid of them forever. This is what I am hearing because I am talking about these things and when I talk I get a feedback and people come to me and say, right on, this is what's happening. I'm just showing you, if you multiply one month of headlines and you sat with my collection or somebody just published, how the news media comes down on you. Now who are the lawyers involved in these cases? How do they overlap? Joseph Ball from the Warren Commission was in with Sue Atkins and the girl who's to turn the state's evidence. A man named Lawrence Schiller made a record with Jack Ruby on January 2, 1967 in which he Ruby said there was no conspiracy to kill Oswald that he was not part of a conspiracy and it was made for capital records, capital records. And this man I knew on January 2, when I read out in the paper I knew that Ruby then would be dead within days because it was now recorded for history, there was no conspiracy. No one could see Jack Ruby except capital record. The only person could see Jack Schiller, Lawrence Schiller was with him. January 4, two days later Ruby was dead. The morning I went out in my paper that Caval record got into that hospital room and got this recording of Ruby's voice, I knew then that now Ruby could leave the earth. You see, it's all down for posterity. Now this same Lawrence Schiller is the man who gave Sue Atkins $150,000 to turn the state's evidence to say that man's and man's termite in the murders. She made $150,000. It was described as an unusual legal trait. Joseph Ball, who worked with the Warren Commission, was with parties involved in the Sharon tape massacre. George Shibley who worked with Sairhan and the McKissick is in his office, they worked with a Sairhan case. They were in on the Sharon tape case. The lawyers overlapped. Now Lawrence Schiller wrote a book about the Sharon tape massacres. This is the way his book starts. He paid this huge amount to Sue Atkins to turn state's evidence and I'm going to read you what he had to say. I read you what Ed Butler said who worked with Oswell. Here is Schiller. He said where did it all start? We can see them going to San Francisco with flowers in their hair, their flower children. The hate-edge very hippies linked together in the history of the Americas of 1960. I'm going to stop the quote now to say this is where we started this hour that I began in 67 with those flower children and started a file in my following system on the flower children knowing that within two to three years everything would break down on their hits. Now it's interesting that Lawrence Schiller begins his book. Where did it all start? We see them on the road, those flower children. He said a movement which sprang from multiple revolutions of the 60s. The new morality, the revolt of youth. The middle class watched them, relieved, happy to be spectators. When the Sharon tape murder happened because it was two out groups that fell on each other. The people that were making with their loose sexy implies and the drugs, it was two out groups hitting in each other. Now he goes in the youth of today, followed the precepts of their forebears until this time. But mass communication changed everything and changed our youth. They traveled, they had experiences, information, money. And how could you bring people inundated with facts of life to believe the Puritan ethic? I'm going to digress again, stop the quote. We talked about Greece. I was watching Greece for two years. I was watching the hippies. I was Lawrence Schiller in the thick of everything telling you just where I was two years earlier, watching how it was going to come down. Now we're getting back to his quotations. Young people having rejected the ethics, rejected the laws which were based upon them. And they were right for a new liberation. And then he perverts the whole thing and says when Charlie Manson came along, our chemical Messiah. And the essence of their life was anti-establishment. They had thrown down the Puritan ethics, the laws. He implies they could become lawless and a moral and throw around their sex and their bodies. And they latched on to what he called the chemical Messiah. Now who bought the LSD and the chemicals? Did our government pay Charlie's way, his bus, his gas? Is he a chemical Messiah or is he designed out of Texas or Muscle Shoal, Rale of Bamba, where everything else is assigned? And the lawyers are sent. Who designed Charlie Manson? Lawrence Schiller is telling you he's a chemical Messiah. I'm saying somebody brought his chemistry. He didn't. It wasn't all handed to him. And the government brought it to him and put on his costume, his leather coat and his guitar and said, Charlie get on the road. Now Schiller says Manson drifted into the hippie scene and he admits he was another ex-con seeking protective coloration from the hippies. I claim that he was an ex-con who went into the hippie scene to pick up the jargon to do a job like the Mawfet does a job like we do in Vietnam like a soldier goes out to kill. We send boy that to Fort Orpher six weeks training, Channing killed the commies. They pick up the jargon of the jungle because they're going to be in the jungle. They didn't arrive that way. We teach them the jargon. And Charlie Manson was taught because he was going to pretend to be a hippie. He hated the hippie, be call a hippie. The book mentions it. He just liked it, be call a hippie. So they put him in a beat up school bus and they called it the Manson family and they headed south. And Manson learned to play the guitar and sing and write music. And that was his last occupation. This is what he was trained for in the federal prison. Lawrence Schiller tells you in the federal prison they rehabilitate you to go out on the street and they bought Charlie a guitar. And he had an inkling for music and he was a natural. He's probably horny as hell and wanted to get on the road anyway. He was just a beautiful, naturally had all this hostility. He said I did it because I wanted to make it look like the blacks were doing. I want to speed a race war. He's vitally anti black and he could sing a song and carry a tune and he had the natural hatred and he loved the chicks and he was just perfect for the role. He was just right for it. Now Schiller went on that his livelihood when they let him out of this prison was that he was going to be a musician. Now within one year Lawrence Schiller says Charlie Manson was out of prison mingling with the Hollywood stars in 1968. And the Manson family somehow was making it with the establishment. And they were going to be part of Hollywood's plushest parties. Now Lawrence Schiller is saying that a year later Charlie is riding in there with the biggest people of all. Now that's pretty interesting considering the lawyer that he saw before he got out of treasure island and the lawyer that texts Watson is saying before these crimes are committed that these art voids were wind and dine in the music scene in the art scene by certain people before the massacres took place. Now Lawrence Schiller said in a true sense the Manson family weren't hippies at all. Manson didn't like being called a hippie either. Well I guarantee you Lawrence Schiller that the hippies didn't like it either. He knows they didn't he said the hippies didn't like it. I know they did. It ended everything that was really good that was coming down. And then he concludes the introduction to his book on Charantate saying it was a strange satanic whim that sent those people in the bend at Canyon. I claim it was more than a satanic whim that the book that Mr. Kaiser puts out in Oakland and advertises an Esquire magazine and the use of this word save and witchcraft is a conceived program disguised as covert government to come down on this generation and it has succeeded and nobody really feels safe in the area or around the country. The effect that they wanted has happened you see. Now I just gave a sentence from an article a few last week and I'm going back to conclude with a few remarks of Marshall Singer. It was an article was printed in April 1970 observations on the Charantate massacre and Charlie Manson. And he says that Charlie Manson is certainly an enigmatic. Is he a victim or a monster? He's equal parts of Charlie Chaplin. And Jack the Ripper he had been arrested 37 times in his 35 years. And Manson said I'll tell you I'm not from your society. I've spent most of my life in a world of bars and solitary confinement and my philosophy comes from underneath the boots and the sticks and the clubs that they beat people with who come from the wrong side of tracks and people like me are society scapegoats. This is James Ray the same thing society scapegoats. Jagger Ruby is society scapegoat. He can be his, his Jewish, his poor. He's kicked around by the anti-seminates of rich oil people. He's used when they want. He stepped on when he wants. He is just a pushed around kid who wanted to make this world be recognized. It's just what he is and always carrying this heavy load of anti-Semitism and underdog and playing a game with the military and the mafia and the oil people for approval and affection. If I do your work will you love me now? The minute he shot us, well, Jack Ruby said I wanted to prove to them that I had guts and he took the challenge and Manson saying people like me are society scapegoats. Now the article by Marshall Singer goes on to say that Lawrence Schiller got the confessions of this act and girl. She was 21 and pretty and she would say that she was victimized by Manson and how she had to hold Sharon Tate in her arms. So Tex Charles Watson could stab this particular female who was pregnant and all the other people. Now Manson had a lot of hostility. He tells you he was kicked around. His plans were to assemble these dune buggies and have Armada against the pigs, against the black people, against the cops. He would kill cops. He'd been arrested all these times. It'd been an isolation. He would kill them. But he would make it look like blacks did and he would be getting even with blacks and cops at the same time and he hoped to wipe out both groups that he hated so much. The article does say that in the early 60s we had our own magical potions and we had a handsome young president who held out promises and when he was killed a lot of the dreams went away and when people like Manson break in with us it is a reality to complex and to banal to understand. Now in one hour it's hard for me to really wrap up the complexity of this because each week we talk about the covert government, the overthrow, change in the economic system. This is what the Sharon Tate massacre was about and I hope that in this one brief hour you can understand how minds all over the world can be affected by killing just seven people and perverting the news media every day and every hour to keep this image going where the truth of the murders is different than what the news is saying. Thank you, May. I don't see how you got it in one hour but you seem to do it. Thank you. Okay.