Journalist Goes Undercover As Foster Parent What She UNCOVERED Will SHOCK You [MIRROR] VLTV

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Would you tell us what got you interested in child welfare and doing this kind of work? It started with a lot of people that I knew having their children taken. And I knew that these were good families and didn't really understand why they could just come in. They could just come into your house and take your children without warrants without you doing really anything. Anyway, through that, because I was an investigative reporter and I had a lot of detective background, I decided to go undercover as a foster parent and see what I could learn from inside and outside the system working both ways. I decided to take teenagers so they could talk and help me without them knowing. Get through this process and see what was going on in the system. And the first girl I got was, okay, I was therapeutic to a therapeutic foster home. Go through your training. It was like six weeks until we could be licensed and have our house inspected and you go through so much it's unbelievable just to become a foster parent. Really? Yeah, it's kind of crazy. For some, not all. For some. I was one that they put me through. At first, I was kind of a little paranoid thinking maybe they might have known what I was doing. They didn't. They had no clue. First girl I got was a 16 year old. She came from a horrible childhood. Mom was not the best of moms drug addict. Dad was a decent dad, but the parents were separated. She ended up in foster care. That couldn't get her out. And she was in seven foster homes until she got to the most abusive one, which this is actually in the news and can be looked up the foster parents. All raped the kids. There were four of them. She had three siblings. They were raped by mom, dad, and the adopted foster son. This one won four years. As a rule, these companies, foster conglomerates, whatever you want to call them, their big business are supposed to whenever they come into your home, separate the children from you. So if there is any abuse going on, they the kids can talk about it and open up about it. Well, they never did that in this case. They kept the kids at the table with their abusers so they could never voice what was happening. They were restrained. They were tied up, hands tied to their feet. They were major drink out of the toilet. They were it was just horrific beating with tennis spot brackets and horrible things that they went through. It was just unbelievable that it was going on. The second to oldest child at a good touch, bad touch school program ended up in the office because she said her foster mom said she wasn't allowed to attend that program. And in that office, it came out what was happening in the foster home. Immediately the children were removed. I got the oldest one. The other three went to a different foster home. And as her being here, I'd say within three weeks I got her to open up. She was a great girl right from the start. So sweet. I felt so blessed to have met her and have her and her not knowing what I was doing. I was just trying to be the best like guidance for her. Get her into some good treatment and learn more about her family. I was curious like why aren't you with your dad? Why aren't you with your mom? So through that, I did get her in treatment. She got some really good treatment that helped her heal about the rape and things like that. She didn't really have some of the hoarding issues. She had a little bit of food issues. They think I guess that's a norm thing with them that they're so afraid that it will all be taken so they try. She wasn't really like that at all. Finally, I received a call from a state police officer and this was going to trial with these foster parents. And I left him talk to her and they got really close through this and he was very protective of her. Months passed waiting for this to go to trial and having plenty of visits they used to come every week to visit with with her take her in a separate room and with white husband and I. And I got to know her parents through this whole thing we would Facebook. I got a lot of her baby pictures and growing up pictures and silly and put together a really nice scrapbook for her so she had all those memories and and she could talk to her mom on Facebook and talk to her dad and I felt really good about it well. Kids piece does not want any kind of bonding at all with these kids not only with their foster parent let alone with their parent. She was told she couldn't have any contact with her parents. Why is kids piece the equivalent of CPS kids piece is a foster company it's a big business they get a lot of money for taking these kids. When I say that the figures are say they get $40,000 per child through CYS from the government. They will give kids piece 20,000 and the foster parent $800 a month. Those are the figures that's the numbers. Last year Pennsylvania 1.844 billion dollars last year of our CYS received. Just in my teeny teeny little county 4 million almost 42 4.2 million dollars just in my little county of burles. This is a big big business obvious you guys know that yeah anyway. She was really recovering but once we were told we couldn't have any contact with her parents. Well that didn't sit well with me I did it anyway because. I'm sorry Vicki who said that you can't have contact with the parents again kids piece and CYS so kids okay both of the things they came to our house here and started a huge fit because of this. Then it went to trial with the people that raped her and her siblings. Scookel Valley CYS told my foster daughter that if she testified she could end up going to jail. Oh my goodness wow. Threaten the child. That was getting raped. That was getting raped would not let her testify because it would have come out about them because they left this child in that home all those years. Yes and never once investigated anything going on there. Well we find out the foster parents were never vetted through the system didn't go through what I went through they were friends of the case worker who placed the kids. Oh my god this is going on a lot and if it comes out which it would have through this. Well they should they wanted that shut down like right away. So I agreed only not agreed I agreed with them but stayed in contact with the DA's office and the state to get another trial because they shut everything down that day. So he they all promised oh this is going forward it will be rescheduled because he had no the state cup had no idea they did this to her. They wouldn't let my husband and I in the room with her no one to protect her. This is insane. Are you at liberty to say any names? I'd rather not just because she's safe right now she has a son of her own which they didn't take which is rare. Yes very rare. So yeah I'm still protecting her I'm still really close to her she's getting married next week. I'm in contact with all my foster kids and they're all thriving they really are which you know thank God considering what they were through. Exactly. Yeah I'm sorry go ahead. Anyway we stayed in contact with her family her aunt came here to visit her at my house and kids piece found out about that and they found out that I was pushing to have the investigation go through and that she was still in contact with the DA's office and the state trooper. So they within three hours of a phone call saying that they were removing her from my home and I had her enrolled in culinary school she was a straight a student she was thriving here. They I got the phone call and as soon as she got off the bus they were here they took her from the house. Of course teenagers she managed to stay in touch with me behind their backs. I knew a lot of kids in my school district so I could said notes and keep in touch with her so we did but how old was she at this point Vicki when she's 15. Oh wow what a pivotal age yeah it was it really was but we stayed in touch through the respite care. And pretty much through the next foster home placement and they did they I. Through that I found out and this is another really disturbing thing that happened with every single one of these kids I had all those things we made for her all the clothing we bought her everything they did not give her any of that they gave her a trash bag full of used crap with one or two of her things in it. Yeah they stole everything else they just it broke our hearts because I felt so bad for her because my husband had made her a jewelry rack and she just had some really pretty things. And gone it's almost like they just have to beat the children down if a child is happy then they have failed or something it's it's so backwards. So they can't they can't let them thrive because they must keep them in the system they must meet their financial requirements they must meet quotas here in my county it's 30 to 40 kids a month five of those must be newborn we have round the clock round the clock social workers in both of our hospitals 24 seven to take newborns and they do it. But that they have quotas and it's insane I think almost every county everywhere does now that this is blowing up which it is really blowing up since his border thing yeah yeah so I don't know how well that will go but. So there's no incentive to keep the families together to get the children back to their not your Donald Trump Trump I worked with family preservation team through the Trump administration and. He did take money out and away from foster care and put it into family preservation family first which Jerry Milner is our top guy right now really helping get this straight now he is a trump higher and he worked in Kentucky in the child service system and he knows exactly what's going on and he knows exactly what has to be done to fix it so more money now is going to keep families together but already like. 10 15 states are trying to find a way out of this law that comes in to law 2019 they're trying to already just find ways to get around it because they don't want to lose that funding yeah. So I wasn't aware of that great stride I had been hearing through the great fine a little bit that Trump was you know he was aware and he was trying to help what we call the largest human trafficking ring in the world and it is worldwide. He's very he's very aware of it we he has reviewed so many cases he is so aware of the testimony that's been on Capitol Hill. In the tax bill in February if you read through that you will find the laws that he's changing and what he's doing and how he's defunded taken grants he is but the Dems just will not let him roll with it this is their child trafficking dream they love it and they just what's going on now this is. That their child trafficking thing coming out in the light they've been doing it for years yes they made a lot of money. Yes like you said billions just in one year it's in saying which is the actual definition of human trafficking taking money for a human so wow now this kids piece do they has anybody gone after them. Tell us about it I want to have to Mike I want to the top of kids piece and I left him know everything that went on in my house with these counselors how they treated my they she was more abused by them that almost the abusers that raped her they were so mean to her they were so degrading to her all along the reason that she they said she couldn't go to her father was because her father had raped her that. That never happened that was there making that up not the real people that raped her but that's how they kept her from going back to her father which I got all that in the open and straightened out but it was it's a long hard battle with these people there is too much power and there's no oversight and the judges are as corrupt as they come. You just summed it all up in a nutshell you are so right so what happened with the case was she ever able able to take her abusers to court no they stopped it they wouldn't let her go the second youngest went and and they wouldn't take her testimony even though she was telling the truth on the stand they said there's no way that that happened that she was making it all up so they put her back with her abuser where she was at that time the. Older son ended up in a kids piece jail is what it is they put him in a room they don't them and they kept in there for years. Oh my god so he would not talk they did not want him talking so they just permanently shut him up and there was nothing that we could do we try to get him at one point we tried to get all the siblings I tried to adopt the oldest one just to get her away from the tragedy she was seeing every day and. Luckily a staying in touch she she's fine and she's a great mom and everything I knew that she could be how I'm sorry how how long did you have how long did that first case last that you just told us about. Oh my gosh all that in just eight months oh my yet's fast and furious yeah so is it so is this all just about money or is it there more nefarious things going on here with this sexual abuse as well I mean there are. Are they not doing background checks with these perverts that are doing these this to these children these I honestly believe some do fly under the radar but I honestly believe they're overlooking a lot of what is there just because they're so desperate for the foster families because there's no place to house these kids that they keep stealing for no reason and they don't want to put them in good homes like yours because you'll try to bond with them and and they're just. They're not just. They're always doing a lot of things and they're just going to be with them and and boost them up and they can't have that. Well what a racket though so you're a sick person so you can get not only are you going to get these kids and nobody's going to know about it or say anything about but you're going to get paid for. around a lot of Amish men and I country right now they're giving the men andites up to 10 12 children to work the farms. What? Yeah. Now they're slaves too. Yep. They are. It's happening. I have so many cases right now. I have probably like 40 on my desk right now and every week it's 10 to 12 15 calls because it's just a rolling thing plus my blog. A lot of stuff comes through my blog. I sell people usually find me but the FBI knows about me in my local area. I just learned about that. So I'm pretty sure like I'm not flying under the radar anymore because if you bring up my name you're automatically going to get blackfolded your case. I tell my people don't mention my name. So so so the FBI knows your name. Is that a good thing or a bad thing because I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I'm confusing to me because the FBI should be wanting to save children right now. You should be. It should be. Right. Well that case right now the reason the FBI got involved is because one of the people that I've been working with for quite a couple of years right now her daughter was taken and put in what around here we have a braxis which is another multi conglomerate housing of kids. She was taken she got pregnant there by a worker. Oh my she's only 16 and she got really really sick there. The water there is brown. The kids they will not call medical for them. So right now she's in her she medical center fighting for her life. And you just these these parents can't get help they can't get help she's afraid to open her mouth will they'll take her other two sons. It's they have them strapped down and unless they do like we try and educate them and they go to the lawyers that I send them to there there is no way out you're not going to get your kids back. So just not it's not going to happen. So you're still active in helping kids and families right is that correct. Barry I have I still have the Pennsylvania coalition for children and families. I have PA family separated by the government. I have my blog and then my radio station was fighting C.C.Y.S. and PA. So it's hard for me to get out. I've never had a child taken. I you know what I mean. I got into this through the compassion for these kids. Yeah. And then the parents that are just getting racked around by corruption that is hundredfold. It's it involves the pharmacies. It involves the doctors. It involves the lawyers, the judges. Anywhere you turn. This is one big operation. This way the police in some cases. Yeah. And then you get these parents sucked in and once they get sucked in it's just it's very difficult to get out and it's very expensive for them. They're told that they need to get lawyers and there's spent and then half the time. Most of the time the lawyers are in on it themselves. Oh yeah. If you get an appointed lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. You're that's dead. You're dead. And around here. I've caught and have the paperwork proof. I've even reported this that our GALs and our attorneys that are collecting money to be free attorneys appointed attorneys are also charging these parents. Oh my God. So they're double dipping the system. Of course they are. And no one will do anything. No one does. I even had flat proof that they broke into parents' houses that they were interrupting mail. That mail fog. You're not allowed to interrupt US mail. But these caseworkers would interrupt the mail and not give it to the children or not give it to the parents. And we had flat out proof of that and attorney went in and seen the file and seen the letters there. Oh wow. So yeah that's supposed to be a federal offense. Yeah. So you're feeling like the Trump administration is going is on a positive road. Absolutely. He is a family man. His family are family people. Alania is excellent. She's visited a lot of so much to do with the children and what is going on. I have not talked to her personally, but I'd like to someday and hopefully someday through my work, I'll be able to because I definitely am on the front runners of this. I have some really good friend attorneys that you might also like to talk to that are front runners and fighting and how they get blackfold, how they get their kids threatened to be taken, how they get this far because they are trying to help these families. It is unreal with they go through. But anybody on the right side, you know, on the side of human beings and trying to do what's right are, I mean, it's, I cannot believe how upside down our world is and how completely backwards. So this is part of that swamp that we're talking about draining the swamp. The Clintons. I mean, Hillary Clinton started it. We all know it. And it just, they kept it going. Bill was really into the child trafficking. They did it in Haiti. I mean, they trafficked so many of those kids. This is their thing and they are destroyed that, well, it was Obama's Obama traffic a lot of these kids. Yeah. I mean, it was their thing. It's a huge money making thing like running their guns and everything else they do. It's just, yeah, Trump has a lot to get rid of. And I think that's one of the fears that they have about closing up the southern border too. And they're wanting to do DNA testing to make sure that the adults that are bringing the kids over are actually the parents and family members. But they're not. And so, so President Trump might have just stopped child trafficking in its footsteps right there by doing that executive order. Which is also why the dims are up in arms and all those at first ladies are beinning together to go around the country to speak against him. He's, yeah, he's undoing all of their stuff. But so I know hopefully those orders that he is signing about separating families all over overflow into America and our US kids. I know. This is where the outrage is coming from our side because it is our own children. This is happening way more than that. There's, I mean, thousands and thousands and thousands of kids in care across the United States, not just the measly 2300 that they're complaining about. That's right. And of all the children that are accounted for in foster in the foster system, I mean, they just lose children, just children end up missing. They just don't know what happens to them by the thousands every year too. How scary is that? It's unbelievable. Tara, I fear every day that my grandchildren are at risk because I don't trust them. I just don't trust them. And once they're in the system, as much as I know, my son is really strong. His wife is not as strong. That at any given time, you know, these people are crazy when they come at you and they will tell you anything once they have that child. It's, I think I know a lot of good lawyers and I thought this fight. I don't even think I could get my grandchildren back. Even though I know all the ropes, I just don't think I could. There's too much power. Yeah, we're told. I mean, we've heard that once CPS gets the kids, it's almost impossible to get them back. Their goal is, of course, that safety plan. We always tell no one to sign it. But once you sign that you're actually giving them custody, parents don't know that. They think that, okay, in this amount of time, I'm going to get my children back if I do this, this, this, this. And then they just run them that they have to be at all these meetings and doing all these things. They can't work because they have to be at this so they can get their kids back. Then around here, they force the mothers to get a PFA against the fathers to get them out of the house. Yes. The New World Order. They don't want that. He's around because that way the mommy breaks down and it's committing suicide or, you know, attempting it. She's on depressive. Well, now you're never getting your kids back. See you. So true. So would you say that one more time? We just want to really reiterate that to the viewers. Do not sign a safety plan. Do not. There's codes on there. You will not understand. Yeah. All of them, it has to go through your attorney. If they force you and you really feel under pressure, sign under duress, right by your name, make sure it's there. But don't sign them. If at all possible, do not sign any paperwork. They give you unless a personal private attorney tells you to not one of their viewers. Right. Yeah. The safety plans are a trip. They're, they're the thing that starts off. Most of it, a lot of it is them taking the kids without a warrant. Yes. But no, yes. But you are signing custody over to them, like Vicki said. And then, and then you think, oh, this is something that I can do. And it'll be 30 days. And I'll do all this stuff to improve myself and get my kids back. But it is hoops that you can never jump through. They just keep changing them and changing the rules of the game and adding to them. And it's, it's literally impossible. It's so, so Vicki, where should parents go when they find themselves? Going to this, this mess. What's the first thing that they should do? Like I tell, every single one of these parents, money is money. So what, whatever it costs, get your children back. Because there is nowhere to go. There's nobody to call. You can call the district offices. They're part of this. You can call the FBI. They don't want to get involved. You can call the commissioners in your county. They don't want to listen. Now the legislators are starting to listen. That is the best place to start. Every parent, flood your legislators with your story, with emails of your story, with what is going on? Because we do have some now that are actually stepping up and trying to protect families. Which it's been a long hard fight and we're far from having it be airtight. Because they're still, they're still doing it. And it's still horrible. It's so bad in this county right now. I count on, I usually count on about 20 calls a week. And between, I shouldn't say just calls between my blog and my, my, my Facebook page. There's always people coming in and they're desperate for help. And I'm not an attorney. I can only tell them my experience as being a foster parent, as being a journalist, because I've written about this. I put it out there for the public to read. There were no arrests made. There were, thing happens. Now you've mentioned your blog several times. Would you tell the audience what your blog is? Vicki and Rob Azonia. It's my name. Vicki, V-I-C-K-I-E, N-I-N, Rob Azonia, R-O-B-E-S-O-N-I-A. There is so much information on there. There is, there are so many complaint farms where you can even the HIPAA complaints a lot of time. So go against your HIPAA, though violate the HIPAA rules, violate complaint. You can file a complaint with the district justice. You can file a complaint against an attorney against a social worker. The district numbers are on there. It's years of information, stories and just really good information. You need to know when you're in this so that you can educate yourself to get yourself out of it, because they don't like messing with educated parents. Because then they know they're in trouble. Right. Now, you said that you took on kids' peace. What was the ending with that? It was just too corrupt and you couldn't get anything accomplished. Too big. I did not get anything accomplished at all. I have gotten C-Y-S social workers fired. Kids' peace I went to the top and they just, by then the child was out from their care. So they really didn't, I didn't have a fight in the game. I guess you could say. Yeah. I still do. They've been in the news. The news for having children getting raped within the facility, going bankrupt, which this happens to a lot of them. They all turn it around somehow. Yeah. But with us bailing them out, I'm sure it ends up being our money. I mean, whether we like it or know it or not, it's our money. It's coming out of our, so it's fair money. Of course. That's funding these billions of dollars, which Trump doesn't like either. I mean, it's just, how do you protect the kids? The kids that really need to be protected and then put the kids back with family that really need to be with their family, which to me, 85% of these kids need to be back with their family. That is a very good number because just the little percentages of what I do in my work here, which is free, mind you. This is all of my time and my family's time when I'm taking calls and running around to court houses and doing interviews. It's just something that I am so compassionate about being fixed and getting these kids home. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, definitely us too. We'd love to network with you on a continuous basis to help the children out. I mean, it's just, it's really sad. But there's a great awakening going on right now. I think a lot of people are realizing what's going on now, where they didn't. They always thought CPS was an honorable organization that wanted, that cared about the children. Now we're finding out it's more about money than anything. We're not saying that everybody in CPS is a bad person. Probably a lot, or maybe most people go in there with honorable thoughts and intentions. But the fact is that a lot of dishonorable things are going on and people are understanding that now. Human trafficking is a huge problem. It's exactly what it is. They're trafficking kids because, and it's, you know, you keep them in the care for that 15 months to terminate their rights. And then you find a way to adopt them out or keep them in care a little bit longer, get more money to adopt them. They have to adopt out so many a year to keep that federal funding or they're going to lose it. They have to meet it or beat it. Wow. So where does that stop? And of course they want the newborns, but parents are winning. We have a lawsuit going on in PA right now. If they take one child and leave the other two, other one, other three at home, we have a good civil rights attorney here. That's ending because you don't take one child and not the other three. You know, if that's a system, fly. So we do have a really good civil rights attorney that helps on a lot of cases. We've had deaths in our foster care system. He has stood up and without asking for a dime, but for the justice for those children. Oh, good for you. What's his name? Benjamin Picker. Benjamin Picker. Thank you, Benjamin. We love you. And Mark Freeman. Both of them are very good civil rights attorneys. We're Freeman. Okay. I wish we could get more media to do as being media, as being a journalist and me getting this out. I just am amazed how more news outlets, Fox News, all this going on. Most of all, when the little boy, they won't let him get treatment to save his life for the parents. We have so much medical kidnap. I have medical kidnap right here in my small county. Yeah. They had an opening there, Fox News, to get these parents on about their own medical kidnaps here. This whole thing at the border, they're set Fox News. They're supposed to be on our side. I gave them so many stories. This is right here. Yeah. Let's talk about American kids. No, they're scared. I mean, and I understand that Fox may not be as bad as the others and some people like them, but they're still part of the problem. In some ways, I just thought like Laura Ingram, Michelle Malcolm has done it. She's picked it up. She's reported on it. Of course, she's on her own private network. So she's not out there in the big media. It's really hard to get news stations to pick up these stories and look at these kids. I do plan on some of my foster kids speaking out. I think that's making more of an impact than even parents when these kids get up at a podium or get on the news and say, this is what happened to me. And no one cared. Vicki, if you can send, if any of those children would like to speak out on VIA, or on the LTV, I was actually going to ask you if that could be a possibility. We would welcome and love to have them speak to you. If they want to tell their story, we definitely want to do that. Yeah, we love to give platforms to people like that. I know the 16 year old was going to write a book. Now, of course, she's a mom and she's getting married. So that never really happened. But I think maybe as she settles down, we actually started her book. That was another thing that really ticked them off. We started her book and I had clear details of her life. And hopefully someday we will finish it. I think he will. I think it would be a really good closure for her as well. Yeah. And help. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Help other people. Yeah. Yes. Yes. It's huge. What is, I mean, there's lots of terrible things, obviously, to focus on. But so many of these kids that have been through this really do take their heartbreak and their story to help others and boost others up. And I just find that so heartwarming and awesome. What a great network. I think all my kids that I had here would be perfect to do that because they just turned out so good and heads on their shoulders. I think I still think that my husband and I had so much to do with that because we had structure, we had just a family for them to go back to a family and all with their families, every single one of my kids are with their families. And that's what I strive to do to know their parents. So I knew what they were doing to the parents. I knew that what they were telling me and I knew what they were telling the children. And it was just crazy how the lies and the crap that they honestly try and make these kids hate their parents. They want them to totally disk bond and they don't want to debon with anybody. They want them just floating around out there and age out of the system and then their drug addicts, their imprisonment. And then they can take their kids away. Yep. And that is happening. That's just what happens. It is a cycle. Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're like you right now. We're going 100 miles an hour pedal to the metal. We're not leaving anything at the table. Everything that we do, I'm tweeting the administration, President Trump directly. Let's hope that we can start getting this done. We know the deep state is very deep. There's a lot of bad people out there and it's going to take a long time to drain that swamp. It's going to take a little bit of a time, but they shut us down, but we're coming back, right? We won't quit. We're not quitting. A lot of people don't know about us is when you tell us we can't do something or you try to splish us, we just come back twice as strong, which sounds like what you do too. I hear you. I just don't like that. I just don't like it. Don't tell me I can't do it anymore. That is the best thing you can do because he does read stuff. Everyone thinks, oh, he doesn't read it. He does read stuff. He does know. He's being stopped and he's in a stranglehold. He needs another. He definitely needs that second term to get things to wear and then who knows what will happen after that, but he needs that second term to actually succeed and get us where we should be as a country. Now, tell me what in what capacity and again, how you're working with his administration? It started out with mailings. It started out with all of the parents, not just my PA group, all over the country, mailing a lot of military families, mailing their stories with pictures. Oh, wow. You know, and them ending up in front of him with Jerry Milner and Ivanka. I don't think President Trump was actually in all of those settings, but I do know that he was there for quite a few of them to see these cases and the outright corruption that was totally outlined for them. It took a lot of time for me to put that together, but I had a lot of help from the parents, too, that were educated enough to help me with that. Some are, some aren't. God love the ones that aren't. You got to help them a little bit more. But the ones that will take charge and do that and outline their cases and we put a lot in front of thousands of cases, thousands of mailings ended up on his desk. And there were letter mailings from all over the country that Connie Regulae, she's the attorney from Tennessee. She is awesome. Did you? Yes. She's a four runner. At least Vincent is a four runner, but she put together mailings and she did it. There was a lot of petitions out there. I did that way back in the beginning. They just don't work. The White House ones, you need too many signatures. You just don't get them. And the smaller ones just never get to him. I only know this just from talking to people in the administration and people that are helping me legislate of wise, get things into the, you know, get stuff on the table, get people to help us. But that's mostly how I got, just like we're mailing it right to him. You know, we're going to Facebook it. It's on a line like that was another thing we just did with the separation of families. What about that? We all had just hammered every live feed, everything that was coming up, we just hammered it down. And nobody really picked it up. Right. Yeah, we're going to continue to tweet President Trump. He's going to get sick of us because I'm going to start tweeting him about a story. We're going to be doing right after you with Schaefer Cox, who's being withheld by the well, we'll get into it. I heard that. I think I heard that through Michael Volpe. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to try to help. We're doing this series on that. We've been, we've been targeted and bullied a little bit and threatened a little bit. Scared. It can be scary. I, that's what I said, I fear from my grandchild. I, at some times I, I have to find out about this FBI thing because this all came up with this lace one with the abraxas and stuff. And as she mentioned, my name goes, oh, yeah, I know who she is. I think how that, I think. Yeah, you should, you should find that out. And it shouldn't be a bad thing because if the FBI is investigating people that, that are helping children, where the FBI are investigating people because they're talking about their constitutional rights and they believe in the first and second amendment, well, I, that's a huge problem that nobody is threatening anybody. Nobody's threatening national security. We're just, we're just saying that we have, we have rights and we're trying to help children. So please investigate that and then help the children. Okay. Please. Thank you. I thought, I really felt this FBI and so did this victim, this parent that he was on her side. So I, I really expected to get a phone call from him or him come to me for some more information that never happened. I have dealt with the FBI in the county before because of my foster children, because of the work that I did. And because they knew, they knew of me from my past detective work, but not this name that she told me I had never heard of him. So I wasn't, I, I don't know, I do have to find that out at some point in time. But yeah. So I just want to know if that, you know, these agencies are young Trump side or aren't you on Trump side? Do you want to help out or you don't want to help out? Because we're trying to help people. We're not trying to hurt our country. We're not threatening anybody. We're trying to help people. Okay. So let's get on the right side of the law here, guys. I hope that he makes them see that I don't see CYS ever coming to that unless they are forced by the funding being taken away. You can't have this funding that you can't have these judges making money off of these kids. They don't want it to end. Yeah. Yeah. So they shouldn't they be getting the funding, but they should be putting jail for what they're doing. Well, my, I have my integrity thing put up and I don't know if Connie talked to you about that, the family integrity at, I added some to mind that any judge, any lawyer involved in this, that is caught, loses their pension and is put on the child abuse list for life. Wow. Because they know darn what, well, what they're doing and they need to, it needs to hit them instead of getting that big pension. It needs to be taken and I did see they just took the judge from Tennessee. They did take his pension and that's what needs to start happening because he's just so what? They're off there. They're still collecting their money. Exactly. Now they're early retirement. Yeah. And their child abusers, what they are doing is child abuse, keeping a child from its parents is terrorism. Terrorism. Of course it is. Terrorism. Yeah. You want to talk, yeah, you want to talk about domestic terror. It is. And what the human, what is that blanket statement that they use, crimes against humanity? I mean, it's all of that stuff rolled up together. Yeah. Check out my blog. There's some good things on there. Actually, an article that was just put in on the effects of separating children from families and the medical effects of that. But there's a lot of good stuff on my blog that a lot of people could use that they might not be able to collect that information on their own. I've collected it. It's up there. You might have to fish really hard for some of it because it's so much of it. It's overwhelming at times. But there's so much that they can do with out of lawyer on their own to bring attention to what's going on. That's very important. Yeah. That's something that we'd really like to drive home to. A lot of times, CPS particularly chooses families that they know do not have the money to fight the system. And so there are things that they can do on their own as well. And Vicki, how much that? Yes. I actually have some really good dads right now that had kids taken for no reason. They should be with their father and are stepping up and are filing it. They're filing their declaration of facts. It's so important for every parent that if they are getting information wrong, you need to file that declaration of facts. It goes right to the judge and it must be on the record. So you're going to file a future lawsuit or not. It needs to be on the record that it was filed with the pranitary and in your file. Because. So is that on your blog where they can find out how to do that and all that kind of stuff? There's samples actually of the declaration of facts. You just have to fill it in. Do your own. You know, type it up and file it with the pranitary stuff they can do on their own. And it's so important. Even after your case is closed to get your case out there on the record, get it out there, put it on so many sites, however you can get it out there that there's always a record of your case because people are going to be using them. There's so many lawsuits that are are properly, you know, the states. We have Minnesota now is coming forward. We have several states are filing as a state to shut these agencies down and change away child welfare works. It's waking people up. I really do see America is waking up. Not all. I still read in my very liberal paper, which I'm stopping soon. Some people just don't they just don't get it. Well, they get there. Yeah. If see why it takes your child, there's a reason it's like let me tell you. Yeah. There I've seen children taking because mom took the cell phone. I seen them take them because they were doing chores. Yep. I see like I said, the five playing in the backyard ranged from 12 to five years old. Taken because they were in a fence in yard and mom was inside doing dishes. Oh my God. Yeah. I guess I guess they're going to get you if they want to get you to target you, they're going to get you. They'll find something obviously. Well, the family of five, that was whatever money, well, how many thousands of dollars that they get per month for one child times five. So that was a little cash cow for them. Well, Vicki, I was on your blog and you have a lot of information on there. I was on there today. So thank you. We'll go ahead and put the link in the description. I love the links that she mentioned. And we're so glad that you're part of our network right now. We want to continue having you on as if as you get cases that maybe you want to highlight a little bit and get out there, we'd certainly love to have you on and talk about. Definitely. I would love to do that. Hey, everybody that's out there fighting, I'm your best friend because this is a tough battle. And without us, they're going to lose because they're just there's not enough of us. No, just not enough. No, there's not. I will gladly help out. However I can. There's never a lack of cases. There's never. If you want to hear one more, well, quick, I'll give you another insane. Please, yes. Vehicle accident. Daughters in the back seat. Mom breaks her back. Dad injured the spleen. They are in the hospital. The daughter's fine. We take the daughter. Never returned her. Never returned her from an auto accident. Now these people here again did not have the money. They're in a car accident. Mom breaks her back. Dad's in the hospital. There was no one to take the daughter because the grandfather's like 92. Yep, put her in care and never returned her. We fought really long and hard for her. And they just pulled all kinds of stuff. The one time that we showed up in court, I got them a different lawyer. We showed up in court. This is how low they'll go. They had the sheriff come up and take dad for a $14 parking ticket. Just to make a scene at CYS and not get into that room with that lawyer to get his daughter back. Insane. But this is the stuff they pulled. And it's a system that needs oversight. There needs to be camera and video in every courtroom all the time. Absolutely. Absolutely all the time. No close court rooms. All court rooms are supposed to be open. They do not do it. They close them. These judges need to be under a spotlight and it needs to change that they can't get away with what they're getting away with behind closed doors. And that's what's happening. I see it happen in just my foster kids' cases showing up at court and they won't let me in the courtroom. I'm the one taking care of this child. If anybody knows what's going on, it would be me, but they didn't want my input because that would go against their plan or that child. So I completely agree with that. All of this should be transparent and should be open. Absolutely. When they start close indoors and not allowing cameras and no media, that's all red flags. They're hiding stuff. Even juries, I would say in a lot of these cases, a jury should be there to help decide. Because Kasa, you know Kasa is corrupt. I mean, that's just another corrupt organization. Around here, they deflated ours. Had millions of dollars. I don't know where that went in the account. But now the judge that's taking these kids restarted it again with one of the lawyers taking these kids. They started another possible. I ain't going to get no people in on that. I actually called and tried to get on. They wouldn't let me. They already know that. They wouldn't let me. We had an interview with somebody that worked for Kasa. They used to. She was a Kasa, yes. She was in Kasa. And she saw all of the corruption. And so she started filing for investigations on, you know, on the CPS and the judge. And she was following up and finding out that CPS was lying. So they fired her. They can't have all that stuff going on. Because she was an advocate for getting the kids back to their family. And they're like, oh, wait a minute. We don't do that. We don't get it. And the reason she was so passionate about it is because she grew up, you know, adopt and bounced around from home to home. I wish Dr. Phil would cover her stories like hers because I get so ticked when he stands up for these corrupt organizations. He went on Capitol Hill and I thought he was testifying and actually seeing it. But then you watch some of his shows and he's belittling the parents and it's like, buddy, you're not getting this. You're not getting what's happened to these parents. Yeah, but it makes me wonder. It's that, you know, these guys are getting the mainstream media time, but, you know, we're not. And so it makes me wonder what's going on. It's got to keep on keeping on. And, you know, hopefully these barriers, we have an open door right now, folks. Let me tell you, this is an open door that we won't get again anytime soon. Probably, but this separation of families, if it's happening to the border, it's got to be looked at right, you know, in our own backyard. It's a good point. It's a good point because right now it's time to drive it home. It's in the news. So let's do it. Yes. So the Democrats may be shooting themselves in the foot by making this such a big issue because you're right. It is an open door. Throw it all out there. Get all the facts then. I think that anybody that's on this train and knows what the fight is, what we're up against is really pushing now because they, I mean, they're putting it out there. Trump's saying it can't happen to them. Well, how does that tie into everyone else? Let's start getting these families back together. Some of these kids that might have been adopted out and then thrown back into the system or what these families need to get back together. I really thought some of my military families, he would step right in and get these families back together. They should not be apart. They're military families. But maybe in time, I'm hoping to get them to a rally that he's at and maybe get them right in front of him. And I think it will. Then it might happen. But it's so hard to coordinate everything. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. And like you said, then people like us, we have jobs and lives and kids. You know, families and we're doing this. I mean, our day is literally last 18, 20 hours sometimes. We're exhausted all the time. Well, Mickey, thank you for all the work that you do. I really appreciate it. Thank you guys. I really appreciate what you're doing. I know it's been a long haul because I remember this floating around way back when. Absolutely. You guys ever, you know, throw me an email or we're going to keep in touch. Oh, yeah. Definitely. This is the first of many I guarantee you. Okay. Yep. I can go through the kids I had and a lot more is going to come up. No doubt. Great. We are all on the same team. Thank you again so much for your time, Vicki. We really value and appreciate everything that you do, including the time that you put in with all of this. God bless you. Vicki, take care. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.