Anarchapulco 2019 Mark Devlin and Ole Dammegard with Jason Goodman

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pected. episode of Light on Conspiracies is a really special one. We're here at Ann Arca Polco and I'm so grateful that you've introduced me to Mark Devlin. Hello, Mark. Well, thank you, sir. It's lovely to meet you. And of course it's always a pleasure to be in person with you all the way. Well, we've been in several countries now. We have. We have. We have. We have. We have. We have. We have. We'll continue, I would say. Absolutely. So today I think we're going to focus on Mark's research, which has been an incredible in-depth view into the music industry. Mark, for our viewers from maybe aren't familiar with you, can you give us just a brief overview? Well, I've been a radio and club DJ for getting on for 30 years now. It's going to be 30 years next year. And that was my main career for a very long time all the way up to 2010 when I came to some comprehensions about what's really going on in this world and who's really running things. And this will be a process that would be familiar to many viewers. It kicked your ass sideways and your life is never the same again. It's referred to as a conscious awakening by many people. And so my life took a very different path from that point because having taken on board these understandings, I could no longer continue in good conscience living my life the way I had up to that point, which was basically in spiritual ignorance. And in a complete lack of comprehension of the dynamics that are really at play in this world. So I decided that I needed to research this information majorly, jumped down many different rabbit holes, most of which you never get out of again. And my specialist area of interest became the corporate music industry, which I'd been a part of. And I wanted to understand the degree to which it was controlled, how it had been corrupted pretty much since day one by very dark forces. And the real tactics and methods that it employs to mind control large numbers of people. So I've been researching that now for many years. And this red led to the publication of my first book Musical Truth Volume 1 in 2016 and a product volume two last year in 2018. And it's become pretty much a full-time job. I have another job, but this feels like a full-time job for me now. This is what I'm doing with my life. I never imagined it would be this way. Every now and again I get a little reminder of the fact that I used to be a DJ. So we're here at an archipelago and last night I played a pool party and it was amazing because it got me back into the old groove that I used to be in. Right. And I was like, holy shit, yeah, I used to be a DJ didn't I? There was a great party I stopped in there for a little little bit. It was a great party. Now where can people get the book? Well the book is available on Amazon, so that's an easy way to get hold of it. But if anyone wants to get a copy from me personally, they can drop me an email to markdevilinuk.gmail.com and I can mail out a sign copy anywhere around the world. Wonderful. You know one of the most fascinating things for me, Ola, is that we bring together all these different guests. I see myself as a hub. I'm not an expert in this or the fields that you discuss or all the other guests that I have, but it's so fascinating when two guests who don't know each other have crossover in their research and I listen to a lot of Marx interviews and preparing for this talk. You speak about how RCA GB became a record label or spun off a record label and that they were very involved in some of this programming, the radio corporation of America, which in 1929 was RCA GB 1929 in Great Britain and today is the circle group that control all kinds of high technology and they have a contract with the US patent and trademark office. They process visas for the United States. So it's a really interesting connection. Can you talk a little bit about how this stuff works as far as manipulating the public perception through music? Sure. Well, many of the key record labels in the early days of the industry came out of military backgrounds. So you have the radio corporation of America, RCA, which was a development of the US Navy. Yeah. And it was to do with radar systems and sonar and all these kind of military grade technologies. And it's the same situation with labels such as EMI, the Parlephal Decker, you'll find there are connections going into military research with many of these organizations. And these were the labels that put out the first big superstars of the industry like Elvis Presley and the Beatles and the Rolling Stones and these kind of acts. So straight away there we get a little hint at what is going on. And you know, it depends how far you want to go into it because you find connections into the world of military intelligence and aspects of government departments everywhere you look when it comes to these major acts that have been put into culture to have an influence on large numbers of people. This was the basis of my talk yesterday at an archipelago, which was titled No More Heroes. And there was a beautiful synchronicity there because I was in the palladium club the other night going to the Immortal Technique gig and I was checking to this guy as we were set up one of the tables and I was telling him what the talk was going to be and I said it's titled No More Heroes. At that very moment the background music in the club started playing No More Heroes by the stranglers. Wow. I love it. I take that as a confirmation from the universe that I'm on the right path. Absolutely. Because this kind of thing keeps happening. And there's also a lot of crossover with the work that Olae has done. Operation 40, the... But I tell you, you mentioned Cerco. Yeah. That is the beast. I know. And that is when you see James Bond movies like they talk about Spectre. It's Cerco they're talking about and indirectly. I'm not talking, it's just an aspect of it but that is the biggest comp. I mean it's got its tentacles all over the world and nobody knows about it. It's like in an unknown name. I didn't know about it until a few years ago when I was... When the Westminster Bridge attack happened that I predicted one month before it actually happened and then once it took off I managed to track down who were doing the drills and that is Cerco. And then when you start seeing their promotion videos it's like they're giving it all away but you need to know exactly where to find it. I was just looking everywhere and I just stumbled over this video. It just shows exactly how they do it. They call it crisis simulations but it's resilience testing. Resilience but that is the terror attacks. Yes. And multiple terror attacks at the same time they have crisis clouds where they can coordinate on different continents, different countries at the same time live. And so I pointed out Cerco. I said Cerco, Cerco, Cerco, Cerco boom their website just disappeared. And so I pointed out isn't it a bit curious that we point a finger and the biggest company in the world, no one has heard of, their website goes away. And then when I pointed that out, boom it came back. But then they had started editing. No because people like what's going on? It's dumb. It's dumb. I mean this is a massive company. So we started looking for the office in London and it's just an address. There's no one there. Really? And the budget is like so small. What I'm talking about is not totally true because it's not Cerco but connected to a certain company under them called crisis solutions. So these are the ones I'm sorry I did a wrong connection there but this is Cerco crisis solution and then the Mayhem we're up against today. So it's so interesting that it connects into this thing once again because this is what we see all the time, whatever area you look into, it interconnects and the music is so important. Well what's also interesting is that that website went down at the point that you started exposing these shenanigans. And it makes me wonder what kind of effect we're really having. I think we could be affecting things more than we realize a lot because a situation I had was I've been looking into Africa, an Africa Bambata who is a very influential figure in hip-hop culture. And in 2016, a couple of guys that were part of his universal Zulu nation, cult type organisation, sigils and everything, rooted in free makes and rate it would see because there's much pre-Massonic regalia there. These guys came out and accused Bambata of having sexually molested them when they were miners. And many more people have since come out and said well actually yes it's been a best kept secret for many years that Bambata is a pedophile with a predilection for young boys. It was always assumed that Bambata's real name was Kevin Donovan. So whenever you went on his Wikipedia page it would say Africa Bambata born Kevin Donovan in the Bronx 1957. However there's a journalist by the name of Laila Willes in Chicago that's bringing out a documentary about these Bambata allegations. I interviewed her and we've been collaborating on research and she revealed that she discovered his real name was actually Lance Taylor. Now while we put this out in the show she started doing interviews saying this guy it seems to have been really named Lance Taylor. Then we went on Wikipedia and would you believe it? It's been changed. So it now says, Africa Bambata born Lance Taylor, the Kevin Donovan has completely gone. So I think we can underestimate the effect that we're having sometimes and our work is clearly being watched and noticed and it really is having an effect. Do you know I was speaking to a CIA operative, a whistleblower and one time I asked him how do you see someone like myself who's really messing it up for them or doing my best to do it? And he said it's nothing personal. Someone like you would be seen as like the enemy officer and so the way they see it if they come too high up in the ranks, destroy them. That's what they try to do and then they would try to hit you from all kinds of different directions. But it's nothing personal. It's just destroying your life. But they are observing and noticing and keeping on the surveillance and then if it gets too much out of line they they destroy you. All they try to. Well, and you've experienced that the attacks on your website, the banking case. I had a death that the other day before coming here. Wow. But just an email. But I mean, and there is this strange murder that just happened here. They say before this Anakapulko conference, just a week before where there was this young guy said to be shot that was involved here. But I tell you I have a lot of doubt to that or no disrespect if it's real I my apologies in that case. But very often when there's an organization or a group that is starting to make real progress like this conference where it's really I mean it's just much bigger this. It's just boom boom boom bigger bigger bigger. They will infiltrate it. It's standard procedure. Yeah. And many times they will do it like up to one year before where people come in and they're really helpful really kind. They make themselves they get in positions where they're so needed and and then if something needs to be destroyed or stopped they will then use the assets they have that has infiltrated the group. It's a stop the agent. Yeah. That's one of them where there's two or more infiltrated and then one of them spots the other one said he says it's him him him and then they say oh my god that's fantastic. Such a hero that had the courage to point this guy out so they throw him out and that guy then gets up in the right but both of them are in it. But with this type of distraction or this murder the effect was that people got scared from coming here even certain speakers. Yes. Yes. Yes. Na poli tano. The Jade chase. What's the same theme a kidding? No but cheese in Bangladesh. Okay. But and I know people that stop going here because also Al Capulco's got a rap for being very violent. Right. Which combine with this article and then you see the whole process of the videos and how I mean for me I fell right away not true not true not true. Yeah but they really died. Well did they and who were they and where did they get yeah but they were part of the organization exactly and when did it happen right before this event right and what did it say did it say a murder in Al Capulco? No it said Anakapulco. Anakapul multiple times in the articles. Right. Violent violent violent Anakapulco. Well they knew you were coming right so it's for you to solve. Yeah but I spoke to the organizers and people that know the guy that was shot. Right. And who brought them up from hospital and so and they made it into you with these people. I would very much like to look into it once again no disrespect but it is important to expose if it's not true. Absolutely. And you thought you were coming for a rest? No not at all. I'm here to enjoy myself. Trying to avoid being arrested. Well yeah. Sorry. Another thing about researchers being watched by certain movers and shakers and their work being noted. This might be a good segue into the former company thing because we were talking earlier about Mike Williams and known as Sage of Quay. There's a new volume of this very fascinating book The Memoirs of Billy Shears which came out in September last year, the 9 after 909 edition because it's all about the numbers. Mike Williams has been on top of this whole Paul McCarty replacement thing for some time. He's become the de facto go-to guy for all Paul is dead matters much to his frustration because he never intended that to be the case but he is now that Paul is dead guy. And he's been corresponding with Thomas Euchariot who's the author or the encoder of these memoirs of Billy Shears books and these books purport to be the individual that has replaced the original Paul McCartney and is fulfilling the full time role of keeping up the public persona of being Paul McCartney. So Mike has been in contact with Tom Euchariot who authored these books on behalf of apparently the protagonist and there's a reference in the new book to a website that Mike set up where he's put all his videos about McCarty replacement thing. So he didn't know this was going to be the case but he got the copy of the book, reached a certain point in it, saw this web address and he was like, who the shit? That's my website. So Euchariot has been quietly monitoring his work and keeping an eye on it and if Euchariot is the real deal and this book really is the confessions of the individual that was replaced with McCartney that means this guy must be familiar with his work as well. So it's interesting to reflect on just how much our stuff is having an impact. That's another example of it. And obviously the title is a reference to that lyric from Sergeant Pepper or one of the 909, where is that from a Beatles song? Yeah that's a variation on a Beatles lyric it's clever sort of wordplay because this story is all about the numbers you have 666 cropping up time and time again and you have the 9s which is an inversion of the 6s. So this book was released on the 9th of September 2018 which is 1818 which becomes another 9. The original book came out on the 9th of September 2009 which is 999 so it's clever numerical coding throughout. It's steeped in a free masonry. Yep. All kinds of other occult mystery school teachings crop up and you come to realise that the whole subject of Paul McCartney having been replaced which I do absolutely accept is a very dark it's a very dark area and you come to realise that the Beatles were anything but this fun lively group of four lads from Liverpool that were all about making songs and entertaining people it goes much further and much deeper than that. That's certainly alluded to in these books and there's many other clues and much symbolism around to suggest that the true nature of the Beatles was very different to what we've been entrained to think of. I think it's worth mentioning that in that cover of the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band album Diana Doors is one of the many celebrities pictured and of course she was married at one time to Richard Dawson who became sort of infamous for having these sex parties that Bob Crane the actor from the United States was murdered and there was this whole there's that movie autofocus all about his life sort of a white wash of his life. I don't know if you know about Bob Crane but yet another way that when we come together and share this knowledge sorry for the Beatles reference. But it's you know this is how we're expanding our understanding of these things you know by using the internet and social media. I think it's I think it's very important also to to explain that this is not the four of the guys and Beatles that came up with the plan we're going to do this we're going to manipulate the whole world we're going to know it's a just like a boy band like Backstreet Boys or it's a construct they've been put together as a product to carry out a message so the question is not so much who they are these four people that are playing whatever instrument or it's the force behind his life. Why has it done where did the music come from what about the lyrics how come it's mind blowing I think that from 63 64 when they hit they make a breakthrough when the world was shocked by this haircut to five years later sex drugs rock and roll LSD everywhere three I mean in five years in five years then you start looking into Laura Canyon these things how the some where did the psychedelic come from where did the record companies where did all of these people why did they suddenly come all of them to Laura Canyon all of these future stars like could hardly play any of them and more or less all of them with connection into military industrial complex and and these it's on real and in the middle of the law of canyon with all of these people around that was garrering around Frank Sapa we got the lookout mountain laboratory a super super CIA installation with the massive film production owned by Jared Littow now the Hollywood actor I went up there a couple of years ago to Laura Canyon did a bit of a road trip around all these places which was incredible you know saw Frank's app as old house the log cabin where they used to preside over these parties with all the other musicians they're yours and old house went up to the site of the tape murders the Manson murders right couldn't get very close to look out mountain but it was incredible bringing that story to life by going around Laura Canyon just going back to what you were saying about the Beatles it's my view that it was always the intention of those that were controlling them to have them as figureheads for the 60s counterculture and to be promoting LSD and Encyclodelia and all of this from the time they started and what they had to do was to get the fan base intact and to get the public to like them so they started out making all these pleasant love songs she loves you I want to hold your hand from me to you and then seen as these four clean cut ice sleds that your granny likes and your Auntie likes right so once they've got everyone on side and they've become this massive worldwide phenomenon then they do the switch on you little baby steps kind of yeah gradually getting you there the totalitarian tiptoe David I could call it I think it was always in the plans of the social engineers that they were going to change culture and change society in the way they did towards the end of the 60s they knew the LSD was coming they knew the attitudes to free love and free sex and changing attitudes towards family and society were coming and they wanted their personnel in place to lead that charge so it's my view that that was the plan all along a lot of researchers are of the view that Beatles were a construct of the Tavistock Institute and a human relationship in London which is this social engineering think tank that specialises in changing culture and changing societal attitudes and they do it all under the radar they create fads and trends and movements and they create false heroes and role models which is what I spoke about in my talk yesterday these people that are served up to us as iconic figures and celebrities and just household names that everyone's heard of but very few of us think to question where they actually came from because we don't select these people they are a dished up to us right given the Beatles were given the Rolling Stones were given Madonna and Lady Gaga and I think it would pay people to be a bit more vigilant than they have been in terms of looking into where these people actually come from because as you just said there's connections for days yeah into military intelligence secret societies Yale and Harvard and Skull and Bones and Bohemian club and all this just goes on and on and also the timing because it's also important to see that these operations was going on on both sides of the Atlantic seas they go very parallel and then you have the Kennedy assassination November 63 which was a coup d'état where they took over these dark forces that are still in place they made and one of the major steps forward in this global overtake and after that you start seeing all of these operations starting full speed on in different times and boom just a few months later you got Beatles massive breakthrough I would suggest and I'm not the only one saying it is very possible that the timing of their breakthrough was as a diversion away from the Kennedy assassination so people will not start looking in too much so it was like boom she loves you yeah and it was like what what and then the whole world was thought to focusing on this haircut instead of looking into what the hell went down there it also it almost becomes like the turning of a page on a chapter in a book where people look back now and they say oh well remember everything before Kennedy in the United States it's seen as a loss of innocence on a national sort of scale and so those things are correlated kind of in the same way that you have a mass psychological trauma like 9-11 and now we're all just passively lining up at the airport a TSA agent came over in the line at the airport and said were you traveling to today and I said I don't know I guess Nazi Germany are you allowed to ask me that and he walked away well because I don't think they are allowed to ask you that sorry I thought you'd have thrown in jail for that those guys don't have a sense of humor I'm from New York I'm a little bit of a wiseass but I tell you when you look into what I've done hundreds of these alleged terror attacks and 9-11 all of and I have I'm still waiting to find a real terrorist I'm still waiting to find a real attack that is not an inside job state sponsored terrorism as a pure in Westminster yeah real attacks no terrorists they're on the other side of the gate that is so true but then you have to ask yourself all of this security thing that came after 9-11 all of these cameras all of these scanners all of these but it's all based on one massive lie right it did not happen it just did not happen how many terrorists have they caught with all these billions of dollars paid into Israeli companies that have created all of these backscatters and bodies scanner you I mean awful machines awful awful awful machine my culture which you can opt out of I really want to point that out the only thing you have to say thank you no thank you and I do that all the time I do as well they take you off to a room or they make it a it takes a lot more time of everyone else but I'm still happy to do that yeah yeah and they're very kind people I mean they don't know the most people that are working there is this with this with the operative the what you call it the ones that are above them have you seen the the the symbol they have on the on the codes the the what do you call it the bosses oh no but in London for instance it's a pyramid with a chop off check it out on the figure yeah go figure that so you know what I've noticed no I see so we're in a little bit quiet lately they have I think they're all on holiday they're down on the beach building sandcastles because then we'll just stop this cause of this you know and this is I tell you because people are waking up so they tried I mean you had al-Qaeda that was a total creation al-Qaeda is the name of the CIA database for their agents that they trained in Afghanistan against the Russians then when Russia left they said what we're gonna do with all of these ones well let's upgrade them and made them into terrorists because the boogie man is of extreme importance to be able to blame something on it and then once after a few years they couldn't even scare babies with al-Qaeda anymore so let's upgrade it overnight boom the ISIS man and then people said what where did that come from we never even seen ISIS ever and suddenly it was the biggest threat ever right and then they started Dyesh ISIS you know so it's just a name blah blah blah blah but you know this all backs up your theory that you have this group that travels around like a film crew you know and they've been staging all these terror events because they come in groups so you'll get a cluster of them I think 2016 as I recall was ridiculous for they were having a huge cluster and then you get nothing for months or in this case what is it two years now since any significant attack so it all backs up your idea that you've got this crew traveling around and it's a huge logistical operation it takes a hell of a lot so they prefer to do them in clusters so they can get all these jobs done then they can break down all the setup and it takes so much to put it right back together again that's why you get these long gaps but I without polishing my halo too much I predicted 15 of these attacks up to two months before they happened this is what my talk is going to be also I'm going to show how I managed to do that because it's not that I'm this they're a clever or got a crystal board how the hell did I do that? That's a sage of Spain no but how the hell did I do it was just because I was patterns patterns and also they they they can they leave clues in the forensic evidence on purpose right in our face I was not aware of that until I was contacted by an insider saying you're doing great but you're missing out on the clues I didn't have a clue what we're talking about Mark speaks about those clues as well that it's karma for them to put it in our face and mock us and all that let me bring you guys back to the message can I just say sure because I pumped our information about these attacks way before they happened and then it gets it it makes it more and more difficult for them to pull it off because so many people are becoming aware of it you know so the most part they are like cockroaches these dark forces on the conspiracy light on conspiracies that it's a very hard you point the light at it you you point the the eyes of people on it and they can't work they cannot function it's the same with all criminality right they can only do it in the shadows so this is why we need to aim the light at these places and that's what each of us are doing with all of the research so let me bring you back to the Beatles John Lennon operation 40 the Kennedy assassination there's still a lot of people who don't realize that the door man at the Dakota the night John Lennon was killed was not the regular door man and is directly connected to operation 40 he was one of the highest officers in operation 40 for more than 10 years Jose Pardomo and but there was another shooter as well Clyde Fosho nobody sort of the handyman because they always they don't they never rely on only one there's most of the time triangular fire crossfire just making sure that the the target is terminated did you see the interview that Mark Chapman did with Larry King in December 1992 I was watching it on YouTube the other day so Chapman had been in jail over 10 years by that point and he's doing an interview with Larry King on CNN via video link from his prison cell and he's going over the events of that night where he allegedly shot Lennon and he's confessing to it you know owning up to the whole thing and he mentions Jose Pardomo the daughter he really just says oh Jose the dormant came out and you know he ran over and saw what was happening so he's talking about Jose like he's just the regular dormant he's just exactly where you'd expect to see him and and then Chapman talks about this other fan called Jude who's a big John Lennon fan that was waiting outside the Dakota for him and he says that he was considering going off with her to get a meal and if he'd done that then he probably would never have shot Lennon so he's talking about all this stuff very openly you know and it's my view that he was my control program but he's wanting to take the wrap for it that's what they do and it looks as if Pardomo was the guy that actually when you take someone out when it's not just a lone crazy guy with his standard when in these operations to blame it on they use professionals to carry it out because they cannot fail and if you got like a weird cycle who can't shoot or anything I mean it's not that easy to kill someone you know people survive even bullet going straight through the head you know and stuff you know you need to know and not a lot of people are that cool and can keep the concentration and carry it out so you need professionals doing it and then a patty a brain dead individual not brain dead sorry but often we minded easty control and then to drug through MK Ultra drugs all of these things and with Chapman I mean the thing is you can have a theory about was it him or was it not he was standing behind him and to the right several meters and all the shots with fire straight from the left point blank more less into the body of John Lennon so I would just suggest how could Chapman do that that is sort of like a physically interesting question or was that actually someone to the left and that's where Jose Pardomo was and Jose Pardomo was the guy that as soon as the shots were fired he ran over to Chapman and officially grabbed the gun from him I would say possibly put the gun in his hand getting the fingerprints saying you know what you did you just shot Lennon and I think that could be a trigger because these individuals need triggering to go into and then he got into this catatonic state where he was just standing waiting to be arrested which is standard with MK Ultra and the I've heard it reported that Pardomo ran over to Chapman and said do you know what you've done a Chapman replied I've just shot John Lennon which could be you know Pardomo's way of establishing that his programming is intact and he is indeed going to take the wrap for it. Who for sure for sure I who where who heard these words who said it who recorded it but the very the first every time that I heard and got me onto this dormant was that there was this clip right after the shooting the very first that has disappeared unfortunately I haven't got in anymore and there was this woman who was screaming she said he was fighting with the dormant he was fighting with the dormant John Lennon was yeah or that he was arguing sorry he was arguing with the dormant that was what this voice in the background was he was arguing with the dormant and I was like what dormant because he disappears out of the story so fast and nobody seems to think that strange you know Larry King's there in December 1992 talking to Chapman he mentions Jose the dormant you would think he would say yeah what happened to Jose the dormant you know where did he go why didn't nobody interview it oh he just disappeared and he'll just fade it back into the shadows and nobody thinks that's strange nobody thinks that's a point worth pursuing but this is where you come from mainstream media where it's like the hammer the wire do you know when Ben Asir Butto was interviewed by David what's his name his famous frost let's say it frost was into you her and then she starts talking about and she just mentions blah blah blah Muhammad this and that whom killed bin Laden and then she's just talking and he does not react it's like what type of interview are you if somebody just said that he was the guy that showed you not wait wait what did you just say and then boom it was edited out I've got both versions where it's just gone I think we've shown that on a previous episode it's some time maybe we have but it's it's very and then Ben Asir Butto was assassinated right this is how it goes you know so why did they want to kill John Leonard oh good question well my view is that he had become a loose cannon and he was somebody that could no longer be relied upon to a deer to the agenda I think he did a lot of harmful stuff when he was in the beauss in terms of the social engineering and the mind control that that group was responsible for possibly under mind control himself there's some researchers that think he was subject to mind control programming himself did he drill holes into his head at some point or what is that called trepening or something yeah there is a story about that a lot of people seem to think that Yoko could have been sent into his life as some kind of handler because she arrived at an opportune time and she had a very controlling effect on him it has to be said though that during the 1970s after he'd left the beauss he made some of the most profound inspiring spiritual conscious music that the mainstream has ever seen a lot of his music is it's just incredible you know instant karma give me some truth don't want to be a soldier mind games all these incredible songs watching the wheels so he spent the seventh is putting out all this amazing material he also became a political activist he became very outspoken about the Vietnam War and the Nixon administration and the elite ruling class and all of this the military industrial complex so you can imagine somebody with his kind of following with his kind of public profile making these sort of statements is something that would get up with the nose of the establishment they like their assets to be controlled they don't like them to have maverick spirits and to go out there and say whatever they want to say so there's certainly a motive there for wanting to take him out and one thing about the controllers that we have is that they play the long game and they display incredible levels of patience so I mentioned earlier that it's my view that with the Beatles they started them out as these clean cut nice lads knowing that towards the end of the 60s they were going to do the switch so they're planning several years ahead so it could well be that Lenin had pissed off the authorities back in the early 70s when he started uh associating with these activists like Jerry Rubin and Abbey Hoffman getting involved with all these social movements and they kept this in mind with a view to getting rid of him at some point and in 1980 he just released his double fantasy album with Yoko and he had a bunch of new hit singles he was going on the interview circuit he was starting to do chat shows you also had the end of the Carter administration in the States and Reagan was about to come into office so Lenin had taken out just before Reagan came into office so it could be that this was judged as an opportunity time to take him out having sat on that grudge for several years because he'd outlived his usefulness well you also caused me to think of George H.W. Bush who was of course the vice president well it was his administration really wasn't I agree with that completely and he's very connected to Operation 40 isn't he? Oh yeah you're right there again it always comes back to the same point but also it's important to know that if Paul was replaced then we have three out of four that was almost or or did die in the stereo's way. Ringo is the only one? Ringo is the only one George? Ringo plays the game yeah Ringo just melts shut does what he's told yeah he's sitting in the background and just enjoys the drummer and just the drummer then Monaco eating a hundred dollar ice cream well fair enough but but it's like you got George Harris and most people don't know that he was almost taken out well how they had them is really bad the plan clearly was to take him out but he survived yeah miraculously but also when you for instance you got this is a standard thing that I think they have problems with is they they create someone and it's they're under their control yeah and then that person becomes important or famous and then suddenly their ego starts inflating on that individual and they become more and more difficult to control and then sometimes they need to mark the territory like slap them in whatever way they do to down dog you know but some people you can't because they they're just so famous and they're out of control and I think that the Beatles started out as a boy band controlled and then they were starting to feel really bad about what they were doing and this is why they were in their hundreds of things in the lyrics saying please wake up we're fake don't believe us this this this this this pole is not dead or pole is dead this is not the real guy close yeah they even call him fall you know I mean George Harris and calls him fall fall fall and in several his multiple references to Billy I did a presentation in London last week where I included a whole load of video footage of all these instances where people refer to McCartney the McCartney we think of today as Billy or William Billy Schews yeah so his real name is supposed to be William Sheppard and according to the memoirs of Billy Schews he's descended from William Wallace who was the Scottish nobleman termed freedom fighter that was portrayed by Mel Gibson oh yes and movie Braveheart so he claims to be William Wallace Sheppard who's descended down from this guy so the book the memoirs of Billy Schews Billy Schews is a nickname for William Sheppard because you've got Sheppard Schews it's wordplay you know and that's supposedly his name so you've got these instances of George Harrison calling him Billy as the enters a room or I think it's hello William there's some footage of this movie that Martin Scorsese did on George Harrison's life and in one of the scenes McCartney walks into the room and George says hello William there's a scene from the McCartney movie give my regards to Broad Street where he walks into a room and one of the characters says do you know William there's an instance where he meets George Harrison's wife Olivia and she greets him as Billy she says hello Billy that's a video that Mike Williams put out recently and there's all these different instances where he's called William or Billy or so it's not as if we're not being told and this is one of the central tenets the belief systems of the occult practitioners that preside over the music industry they feel duty bound to observe certain rules and one of them is that they have to tell us what they're doing at all times but in some weak coded way they always do it encoded veiled to protect the kind of ways that masking subliminal messages in ways that regular members of the public could not reasonably be expected to interpret but nevertheless as they see it they've discharged their responsibilities to karma to car accident by telling us what they do it if we're too dumb and too profane and too ignorant to see the signs as they see it that's our lookout that's our problem they've done there bit so this explains why we get clues and indicators and pointers all the time is done through predictive programming it's done through all these little subtle things that get weaved into Hollywood movies and music videos and stuff and often they pertain to coming attacks or you know real world events there's no end of examples of predictive programming related to 9-11 in the years and decades leading up to that event so they're always yeah all of them cartoons the simpsons all sorts so they're always announcing what they're doing and the emphasis is on us to be able to interpret it right call them out on it back in the future as a lot of them yeah due to many researchers now in this field doing a lot of great work people are starting to learn how to spot the signs and see through the bullshit right but that's got to continue exponentially and the overall technique of course would fall under the heading of stegonography encoding messages in plain view right and this is what my talk is about I'm today I'm going to show all the signs that I found and went out and said please please be aware boom boom boom boom when it happened this one boom this one it's like a language and once you start getting a grip of how they communicate then all of us can start seeing it and help to stop it yeah you're like our translator of this language yeah maybe I'm yeah I would say yeah you are you've become that I've become that I don't know how but it's because I'm such a geek in this area well it's as I've said many times I mean it's how does a child learn to speak English or Swedish or I mean I found myself in Charles the Gaulle airport one time and this took this little four-year-old kid speaking French to his mother and I thought I was like how can that kid understand French I can't there's Chinese or Chinese there's there's there isn't it isn't it's just being entrained so you can be entrained and learning to spot the signs in the symbols right and I'm certainly getting that way in the book the new version of the memoirs of Billy Shears you harry it supposedly writing as McCartney this is supposed to be his autobiography but that book is put out there as a fiction it's openly stated that it's a novel because that's the only way if this is genuine they could get that information out there without being up to their neck in lawsuits if you dress something up as fiction right we'll put it in a song or a poem you can say anything you want because you can just point to it as fiction but in this book he's making the point that you get the truth of the matter of what's going on in the world in apparent works of fiction so you're getting the truth in Hollywood movies cartoons music videos record sleeves this kind of thing then when you turn on the evening news where you think you're getting the truth that was happening in the world you're just getting lies and deception from beginning to end so it's a complete satanic inversion of the process in what is thought to be entertainment and fiction there's great truths encoded there and in the mainstream media lies lies and more lies and I know all is not a big fan of Donald Trump but he would call it fake news no I I would not call it fake news I would say I don't know about Trump at all I mean Trump has basically popularized that term fake news yeah but they're turned it against the real I mean it's like it's bizarre everything is upside down exactly it's it's it I would suggest if you want to understand the world whatever they say turn it around and then then you will start seeing what's going on exactly it's like the pure white house it's the dark satanic house you know the health care is the other way there's a great quote from an author called Michael Elner I love that last year I think but he said something to the effect of just look at us everything is backwards doctors destroy health oh yeah lawyers destroy justice yeah the the food industry destroyed destroys some nutrition right science destroys knowledge academia destroys education yeah that is it and you see in the JFK movie as well where Garrison he says look guys we have to see it from a different point of view black is white and white is black we are behind the mirror that is so that spot on and it's not only that case it's just a symbol of what is going on so we we need to start seeing I think it's really interesting as well that with the human eye you got light coming in and then you got the lens but what happens is that the lens breaks the light so that actually we're seeing things upside down and then we taught our brain to say nope that's not upside down it's like this the brain interprets it's like this up they are so actually when we're looking at it's upside down but our brain is telling us no that is the way so what we need to do is actually saying to the brain listen please tell me what you actually see and if I will interpret it the way it actually is well it's interesting it's not easy it is that's how backmask messages work subliminal messages spliced into audio recordings backwards you get treats encoded there as well got to play it backwards and there's actually a whole science of reverse speech therapy that exists where you have certain practitioners a guy called David Oats out of Australia pioneered this whole thing and the idea is that when we speak we're unknowingly encoding truths into our speech backwards which sounds crazy even people who aren't trained in this method yeah we don't realize we're doing it but what Oats and the other practitioners in this field do is they spend a period of time recording somebody just talking generally doesn't really matter what they're talking about because the truth still gets encoded and then they've trained themselves to flip the recording in reverse listen back to it most of it sounds like complete gobbledygook you know this but they've learnt two spots certain words and phrases that come out backwards and this is supposed to reveal the true nature of what that person is all about their spiritual state their mental state what's on their mind and there's some examples that have been given and it's incredibly fascinating a lot of people throw it out and don't accept it at all but I think there could be something to it particularly when you factor in that everything is inverted in this world and you know images come to a sub-side down and all this it's another play out of that concept of finding the truth of something in reverse flipping it round turning at 180 degrees as a whole fascinating area of science and you have all these audio recordings where subliminal messages are supposed to have been encoded the famous one is in Led Zeppelin stairway to heaven oh god which is supposed to say nice we use to eat sweet Satan and all this stuff and Led Zeppelin have been asked about this on numerous occasions and Robert Clark and Jimmy Page have denied it and said it's ridiculous you know we never set out to do that but what if that's the truth of the matter they didn't set out to do it would be the hears to my sweet Satan came through unwittingly unknowingly subconsciously because of sleeping in house walk out because of what that band is all about Jimmy Page is an occultist he's into Crowley he's into all kinds of dark shit you know and that's where that group was at so what if that got encoded into their music without them even knowing and intending to do it wow it's fascinating and it reminds me very much of what David Ike was speaking about the other day how you know human eyesight can only detect a very narrow bandwidth of visible light and he was talking about how certain animals don't have color receptors in their eyes so they can't see a rainbow does that mean it's not there that really hit me when he said that as far as what could be going on in the world around us that we don't have the equipment to perceive and you're talking of course a lay about perception you know a simple lens inverts optically the image but somehow the optic nerve the human eye brain gravity whatever it is the conditions on this earth causes to perceive these things totally 180 degrees opposite of what they are you know some they made experiments with glasses that does it so that the brain will see what it's actually supposed to see and people follow they they stumble it but after a few days boom the the brain is just say okay fine boom and it's readjusted itself and then you're back you're back in the reality as you know it where things are perceived the way it is but it takes a few days for the brain to you know more into and understand okay this is the way you want to see it okay so what we're back to the McArtony thing again this conversation keeps going around in circles but I mean one theory for why certain people say oh I just see the original Paul I don't think this guy has replaced the replace at all he looks the same to me is that people have been entrained or certainly in the 1960s they were to when they look at the be or see John Paul George and Ringo that's who you expect to see so after the switch happened if it took place what a lot of people would have been expecting to see is John Paul George and Ringo so they see these four guys oh there's George there's John there's Ringo there's Paul that must be poor the mind fills in the blanks and I think that could be one of the reasons why they've got away with it for so long because it's it's truth in plain sight what you were saying about David Frost not calling that person out on on the statement about bin Laden you know this Paul McArtony thing has gone on for decades without most members of the general public calling them out on it or seemingly having notice it's incredible what they can get away with by letting the brain fill in the blanks but the rumors started right away it's not that we've got 30 years later it's like the rumors started in the 60s but they very quickly fizzled out that you would think that they would have ignited and just blown the whole thing out of the water but it's a bit of a mind blowing stuff that it sounds ridiculous it does fizzle fizzle out though doesn't it well especially if you know amplified by media right well it's the opposite of amplified by media and what you're describing of course is the baby step process we've got the Beatles just changed 25% of it and even that 25% looks 60 70 80% like Paul McArtony it's a minor step there's a good friend of mine in the UK that I was talking to about this Piccarnie thing a couple of years ago and she said when she was a little girl she must have been about five or six years of age she went to a record store and they had the Beatles read and blew albums the famous compilation albums in the store window and she looked at the picture on the red album and they looked at the picture on the blue album and thought oh they changed one of the members well as you said at the age of five or six she could see that Paul on the blue album is not the same guy as on the red album and she spotted it at that age wow so kids see things that grow and up stone do you know what my daughter said she was four or five and one day I was sitting watching the twin towers some some documentary about that and so the whole thing just came down and so she came in I mean she was just a little tiny thing and she said what are you watching dad and I said this and I told her the official story and then she said why are you lying to me I'm a child I'm not stupid wow and then she took off and then we are here grown educated where no I don't think so I mean she spotted within two seconds and I tell you many of these so-called mysteries and I mean murdered cases where people after 40 years is it is it not there are no brainers there are absolutely no brainers Robert Kennedy for instance JFK all of the no brainers that there were a conspiracy behind them right not the official story but but since people are so indoctrinated no no no why on earth would they lie to us that is the one that blocks you in if you just see it as it is it's an old brainer you can sort it out in it's 30 seconds and certainly most people who feel like hey I've got a good life I've got a job my family they don't want to disrupt they don't want to dig under it but they're mind welcome to a prison planet yeah you can understand why they don't but I'm someone that always wants to know the truth and it frustrates me greatly that I spent all those years living in ignorance and not noticing things that were right in front of my face but now I'm in a place where I would always want to know the truth of a matter doesn't matter how dark it is how devastating it is and I have difficulty understanding why everyone isn't like that I think you always want to know the truth as well but most people don't most people are prepared to lie to themselves most people are prepared to block things out even when it's staring them in the face that's such a bizarre concept to me now because why would you not want to know the truth about everything why would you not want to discover that in this lifetime if there's an opportunity to do that I get that people have comfortable lives and cozy situations and they don't want to rock the boat and upset things and they like their job and their icon in their own salary I get that but truth is just so important to me that it overrides all of that and I just don't know why everyone else is but also all of the mayhem that is created because we refuse to see it you know if we just saw it by the way and everybody said hey listen stop bullying us I mean the people that are carrying it out against us it's like a few thousand in total in key positions with billions it's an absolute joke isn't that we even hear that we have conference like it's a joke that we allow them to get away with joke joke joke it's an and a disgrace to us I say shame on us for being absolutely brain dead and yeah in a coma zone zombie state like shame on us yeah and so not don't point at them saying oh they're bad guys point at yourself and saying what the hell is up with with myself why am I not courageous enough to stand out why why don't I care enough for my children to say and listen I want to be part of stop at this mess before you grow up because this is not it's going in a very bad negative direction here and it's going very fast so you can seem hopeless to those of us doing this work it can seem completely futile sometimes but you can't give up I mean what are the options just say to how all of this I'm just going to become a regular normal member of society and stop watching the game shows again and start eating with Donald's that's not an option now you can't do that the only option open to you is continue to do what you can no matter how you sliss it might seem because you've discharged your responsibility to creation then yeah well you two gentlemen are ambassadors of the truth and I'm really honored to be here speaking with you about this we're almost out of time for today so Mark you just want to remind everybody where they can get your book and the title of it and your website and all that sure so I've got two volumes of musical truth both available on Amazon but if anyone wants to get a copy from me direct which I can sign and post out they can drop me an email to mark devlinuk at gmail.com and I post those all over the world my youtube channel is youtube.com slash mark devlin tv I've got a whole load of my conference talks up on there I've got a bunch of my radio interviews and my podcasts I do a podcast series called Good Vibrations which is conversation based and I do a conscious music one called the Sound of Freedom which is music you're never going to hear on the radio it's conscious uplifting message music mainly hip hop some ragay some other styles as well I'm up to 89 volumes on that that's all on spreeca you could just search for the sound of freedom on spreeca if you want some real deal authentic music in your life and not all this satanic garbage right you get in the main stream and can I just say that it's one thing to sit and we're we're moan about stuff and mark has paid his own ticket from the UK to come to Mexico yeah he's not even allowed to stay in the hotel he's paid his own way in here to be able to talk his truth here well I kind of invited myself you talk in right at yourself but that shows you that you're devoted and that you so I applaud that and he's not he's not into donations anything like that but what dry what can keep him going is buying his books so I really urge people buy these books I can totally recommend them absolutely I appreciate the the youtube channel is fantastic the podcasts are great I was listening to several of them really want to thank you for joining us today and of course we want to remind people to visit lighton conspiracies.com always got books there and people can sign up for patreon.com slash light on conspiracies. Ole thank you so much. Thank you. Mark, pleasure to meet you. Thanks for having me. And thanks everybody for watching we'll see you next week for more light on conspiracies. That is true.