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JOHN JUDGE: The Truth About The 1978 Jonestown Massacre-NO CYANIDE DEATHS

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The late alternate historian on American political history, John Judge, reveals the truth about what really went on at the People’s Temple and reveals true biographical facts about it’s leader, Jim Jones. Also tied in to the video are revelations regarding what really happened at Waco and the Branch Davidian Compound whose tale is similar to the Jonestown incident. These lecture clips were recorded in the early 1990’s. Please share a comment below if something is on your mind about this event(s)
Here are the links to the videos in there full length:
-The Eclectic Viewpoint-The Hidden History Of The United States, Part One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Z7Gi3nhVM&t=9s&ab_channel=talkingsticktv
- Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11T6jjPKGqg&t=510s&ab_channel=talkingsticktv

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I started to look into the Jonestown deaths in the days following the original report in the New York Times. I was in New York and the headline was, I don't know if you recall this, 400 found dead in jungle, 700 flea into the jungle, 400 found dead, and 700 flea into the jungle. I later found reports in all the people's temple magazines in all the press, in the passport levels, 800 adult passports and 300 children, adding up to 11 or 1200 people on site. So this made sense, 7 and 4, 1100 accounted for 400 dead. How did they count? The guineas defense force that went in was responsible on site in a jungle, all these dead bodies, for poking them with their bayonets and making holes in their bodies so that their gases wouldn't explode the bodies before they got them out of the area. Do you think somebody doing that, gruesome work, would fail to notice one body next to or under another? The first, there were five official versions given by the military eventually to explain it. The first version to explain the problem that they had was that the guineas can't count. They don't have 10 digits on their fingers like we do, they never heard of mathematics. The guineas can't count, official US Army intelligence statement on site in Jonestown, the first day that they get there with the green berets. They brought in 300 green berets, only 100 were used in the cleanup. The other 200 had a different job to do. But the first thing that may be a question that was you had 405 or 408 depending on which count you take, dead bodies, the majority of them children, at least two-thirds children. That's the first count, elderly and children, and their dead and there's 408 or 405 of them. Five days later you have 915 bodies and that becomes the final official body count. What's wrong with the scenario? We're told if you remember, the second lie, bodies fell on top of bodies. Well, let's have them fall. You have 400 bodies including mostly children underneath, and then you have over 500 bodies so you can get up to 915. How do the 400 bodies cover all these other bodies? You wouldn't be the other way around, if the 500 recovered the 40, you get an extra 100 on the count on the outside. But we're told that they cover the bodies. Then the third lie, three days in, bodies fell in piles. They died in little groups and they fell in piles and we just couldn't count them right. All this is going on. We're not being told much except that more bodies each day you get a larger count. This many have died, this many have died. Now the bodies are being taken back. They have star lifters in there that can carry tanks and troops and everything else. These huge planes, and they're telling us they can only get 11 caskets off site per trip. Across millions of dollars to make all these extra trips, these huge planes that couldn't fit the caskets on. Good move the bodies out for six days there in the jungle to get these bodies off the site. It's a special team. Crisis team goes in, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Center for Disease Control. They have these special military intelligence teams that go in and crisis their present on site. And you're getting these stories. I looked at probably 150 photographs, close photographs on the ground, every aerial photograph I could find, every news source photograph I could find, I challenge you. To find me one photograph of one body at Jonestown on top of one other body. In any photograph, these people are laid in neat rows. In the closer photos you can see the drag marks. They're laid face down. In some cases three or four along on a blanket or a sheet are dragged along and positioned. They're in calm repose. They're face down. Most of them you can't see the face. Their arms are at their side or relaxed. And we're told that they died how. By taking cyanide and a little cup because their minister told them to. And then dying of cyanide. No, anything about cyanide? No, it kills you. It's a colon esterase inhibitor. It stops the neural signals from going to the muscles. It doesn't stop them completely. You start getting random signals. Not only your voluntary but involuntary and backbrain. So you're not getting breath when you want breath or you're getting a lot of breath when you don't want. Okay, you're jerking. Well the two major signs of cyanide pathology that somebody would look for. Spasming of the limbs. The limbs are going to end up jerked in a spasimed position. Find me one. Number two common to all the bodies. Cyanide rictus that last all the way through the rigor mortis. They were there within a few hours. They would have seen it. Cyanide rictus. A sardonic death grin. It's not anywhere on those faces. These people didn't die of cyanide. Dr. Moutou, the leading guineeth pathologist, went into there first. He looked at the 400-nate bodies. He helped account them. And he was a medical doctor. He saw how they died and he reported on it. He reported on it to the guineas press, which I found. He reported on it to the guineas grandeuria at Matthew's Ridge, which I found the transcript of. And eventually he reported on it to the American Pathological College Association. And meetings of pathologists here in the United States, which was reported on in readers' digest even. They died from an unknown poison injected at the back of the left shoulder blade. They found bent needles, forced injection evidence. And the rest of them that didn't die from whatever the hell his injection was, died he said from gunfire or strangulation. I can show you the gunfire wounds in the photos that I looked at. And they died over a period of five to six days. 408 dead, 700 flea into the woods. Who was in the woods? Who was in the jungle? 300 British black watch troops. The equivalent of our green braze on maneuvers that day. Guineas defense force, 500 strong. Where were their officers trained? The international police academy headed by CIA agent Dan Mitrion trained those guineas officers. They were surrounding them. You'll see them during the murder of Leo Ryan in the footage. The congressman killed there. They're watching a group of people pull up on a flatbed truck with shotguns, shooting at people at a distance, and then walking slowly, they're described as robotic programmed without affect blank stare looking through you rather than you programmed killers, walking through, turning people over, looking at their faces, and selectively blowing off the heads of certain ones, including Leo Ryan. Other wounded people left alone to live, selected targets. Guineas defense force, no further away than the second roll back there from this operation. You can see them in the photos and see them in the films, sitting at tents, machine guns at the ready doing nothing. Part of the operation and the extra 200 green braze. We met one of them in Texas. He pulled out a serrated knife this long. He said, this is what we used on him in Guiana. These people were dragged back dead. They were rounded up and killed in the woods and dragged on to sight, and that's why it took six days to do the killing and then the cover up. The last lie told on the sixth day by the US Army official spokesperson, we forgot to go around the back of the pavilion. The pavilion isn't even a quarter the size of this room. We forgot to go around the back of the pavilion for six days. And when we went around, we found 500 new bodies. This is in print. I'm not making this stuff up. This is how we were told about the Jones-Town Deaths. But these were not suicides. They weren't even the new term. What's the new term? You see that? Here's Switzerland. 48 died in cult, murder, dash, suicide. I hope you don't ever die of a murder, dash, suicide because that's why you pay a corner. It isn't the same thing. It's not a joint double word. You're either dead from murder or you're dead from suicide. One of my favorite autopsies was accidental asphyxiation by hanging. They told us the guy was trying to masturbate. They had a case in Baltimore where a guy supposedly hit himself over. They had 36 times of the ball peen hammer. They just kept waking up and whack long and up to finally died. They had one guy. They ruled that they ruled it a suicide. His body parts were tied in a bag. This guy had nothing, who Deany was nothing compared to this character. You better distinguish between a murder and a suicide. It's not the same thing. I can't find an instance in human history of a voluntary mass suicide by anyone. They showed Masada after Jones-Town where the Jews were supposed to have formed a suicide pack. But Josephus, the Roman historian says, no, no, no. There were a few suicides. Half a dozen, the Romans killed the rest. That's the way it happens. People don't agree. That's in a critical situation. These people are just hanging around the jungle. Now they had suicide drills. They had suicide drills. But they knew that they were drills. The way they knew I was told, but when I was told that I was the way they knew something was up, the day of the Jones-Town murders, was that the cook was brought out. It was almost dinner time and the cook was brought out for the suicide drill. Then they knew they weren't going to eat. So maybe it wasn't a drill. Then they headed for the woods. Except they were surrounded in part by the white armed guard of the concentration camp called Jones-Town, the socialist paradise that we're told about by Mark Lane and Don Freed. One, two, many Jones-Towns would have been martyly their kings next to gender were told. This was a slave camp. They found the guineas defense force found in the lockers. Enough drugs to drug the entire population of Georgetown, Guiana, 120,000 people for a period longer than a year being used on 11,000 people. They found enough doses of thorazine, one control drug. The thorazine shuffled from the psychiatric ward used as a punishment drug according to the survivors. Enough doses in one foot locker like 11,000 doses of thorazine. Enough for everybody in the camp to have one. They found a religious amount of the control drugs. No medical records, those had all been destroyed. Stories that if anyone got cut or hurt or injured, they were taken immediately away and never returned. There was a camp doctor with no medical training. His last name was shocked. SCHHT, Lawrence Shock, Houston, Texas. I believe he's the grandson of the Shock family that moved there from Nazi Germany, Hallmark Shock, Reichs Minister of Economics. Invented the phrase, Arbate Mock Frey, work will make you free on the gate to Auschwitz and the concentration camps. Mr. Shock was the camp doctor at Jones Town. He's sutured without any anesthetic or anything to kill the pain. He's described as a very kindly sort of a doctor there with these people that tortured for sexual abuse, kept up 16 to 18 hours a day, classic programming techniques, given these drugs, worked to points of exhaustion in a labor camp. Why? First, to find out if they could do it, if they could make it work, and not insignificantly on that population. This is a population that is 90% women, 80% black. This is the population of Jones Town. Where did they get them? Jones set up a phony rest home in Yucaya, California, surrounded by barbed wire and guards. There were eight mysterious deaths reported in the Yucaya Press and people who tried to leave the area. Researched and investigated by Kathy Hunter. Not allowed to leave. An arm can't be even there. Surrounded. He's with the John Birch Society and the Republican Party. He's working for Nixon. He's openly right-wing. Tell him he moves down to San Francisco and suddenly becomes a Moscone liberal so that they can take them off the welfare rolls. But at Happy Haven's rest home in Yucaya, nice name. He brings in elderly from the rest homes. He gets 150 children given to him by the courts as wards of the court. He gets people taken from the psychiatric institutions into his care. People that go for treatment on drug or substance abuse are referred to him. He's given a population to work with. And who is Jones? Indiana, son of the Ku Klux Klan. Close boyhood friend of Dan Mitrione, the CIA torture agent who later trained the Guineas defense forces. An infamous agent eventually killed down in Paraguay by revolutionary forces. Mitrione, knows Jones. Mitrione is with the CIA in Brazil when Jones decides to leave his ministry in Indiana and take it to Brazil. The whole time that he's there, his groceries according to neighbors are delivered in State Department cars. He's given rides in official US government and embassy cars. He has his money paid while he's there. He comes back with $100,000 in his pocket. This guy that is Indiana landlady said he's a gangster that uses a Bible instead of a gun. He's pulling chicken livers out of his mouth. He's phony faith healing. He goes down to Brazil. God knows what he's doing down there. He's down there at the time of a attempt to CIA coup. He's supposedly carrying on this ministry. He comes back with $100,000 in his pocket. And he says, oh, the U.S. Ambassador's wife gave it to me for sleeping with her because I'm so good and bad. Right, Jim? He goes to Yucai and sets that up. He comes into San Francisco and all of his people through Moscone get jobs in the welfare department and they take the people off the welfare rolls and put them into the people's temple. But by the time they're ready to go to Guiana, then the real operation begins. The people are stuffed into buses. The children are stuffed into the luggage compartments. They're taken without word of where they're going across the country to Miami. They're loaded onto pan and planes long history of intelligence involvement. They're flown down to Guiana. I talked to the air traffic controller on site when they landed. He told me every black person that came out of that plane except for the children was bound and gagged arriving in Guiana. People five miles away in the Guiana bush did not know that a single black person lived at the people's temple site in Jonestown. The whites were allowed to come and go. The blacks were in the slave labor camp and when Leo Ryan threatened to expose it, they pulled the plug. They murdered everyone there, including Ryan to shut tell Congress that they better not stick their nose in their business. Why did they want a slave batch in the jungles of Guiana? You have to know about Guiana. It's one of the most mineral rich areas in the world. Box site. Uranium, gold, manganese, iron ore. The little boat landing on the river, the railroad tracks that went to the Kaituma airport, Port Kaituma itself, were built by who? Union Carbide to support an old manganese mine. Five points in the area all around Matthew's Ridge was the richest gold area in Guiana. I read books in the history of this. This is Pornoco River Valley. Venezuela wants it. There's a contested border dispute. But they can't get anyone to work it. No one wants to live back in the jungle. 95% of the population live along the coast. The air is clear. Near the sea, why go back and live in the jungle? The hardships there. From 1909 on, a family called LaCou in Guiana works to import populations from around the world to go into that site. From 1909 on, Nounan is one family. LaCou is the other. LaCou at the time of the Jones town becomes the lawyer for Jim Jones. This guy is listed in Guinness World Records as being a lawyer who's never lost a case. Everyone he's ever defended as one. I'm sure it's his legal skills. He's the lawyer in Guiana for Jim Jones. The American lawyer is Mark Lane. And they're running this little operation down there because they want to find out if they can get somebody to come in. I found 1936 records from Adolf Eichmann. He's discussing at the Hebrew desk the final solution before the final solution, the next to final solution. What are they going to do with the Jews? Well, let's move them abroad. And they actually take 50 Jewish families, where to Guiana? To Jones town, to Matthew's Ridge. What's later called Jones town, not then. But the experiment doesn't work. They take people from Dominican Republic and try to move them in there. After the Jones town massacre, they move in the Haman people from Vietnam, the ones that ran the opium for the CIA. And they try to put them there and eventually move them down to Suriname, the Christian right, Samaritan's Purds, World Vision. It makes arrangements to move people from other parts of refugee populations in the world down to Guiana. They want to put somebody in there who's going to work the area. And they've got a plan to see whether they can use MK Ultra. The people around Jones, the top lieutenants of Jones, the people that formed the bank accounts, have extensive family ties and connections to US biological and chemical warfare like Dr. Lawrence Layton who headed it up at Dougway Prooomgrounds from 1956 to 1964. The daughter Debbie Layton, married Phillip Blakey, that's a Nazi money family in Germany, that the largest investors in Salve, which is IG Farben, the huge Nazi drug cartel. It was busted up at the beginning of the war, but regrouped after the war under different guises, Salve drugs in the United States. You have other people around Jones with like Terry Buford, the daughter of the head of 7th Naval Intelligence 7th Fleet for the whole Philadelphia base and the 7th Fleet going out to sea. These are not the sons and daughters, the people off the street, the white, the reckon around Jones, the inner core are from very rich families, top lieutenants. The women that follow Charlie Manson into that scenario are the daughters of top ranking military intelligence agents in the United States. The people that drag them back into the camp, that's why you see drag marks, that's why you see bodies in rows on top of sheets, that's why you see bodies in neat rows, face down and in calm repose. These people did not die of cyanide poisoning, they did not drink cyanide. If they had, they would have shown two indiscutable signs of cyanide pathology. Spasming of the limbs, because you're getting interference for the messages from the brain to the muscles. And you start to jerk your back brain stuff too, you breathe in, and then you can't get breath because nothing's working the way it's supposed to. Your limbs start to jerk, and so you're going to end up with a rigor in a spasmodic position. The second is a grin, a sardonic death grin known as cyanide rictus. The mouth muscles draw back into this tight grin. It's not present on any picture where I can see a face. Dr. Boutu looked at the bodies and he said that 80 to 90% were forcibly injected, broken needles, evidence of forcibly injection, and the back of their left shoulder blade was something. The rest he said were shot or strangle. The Genie's grand jury on site Matthew's Ridge based on his testimony, and the direct evidence said that there was not a single suicide at Jones Town. This idea that mass suicides are common human practices and absolute fallacy. I even went back to Masato, which they put on the TV shortly after Jones Town to support it. The Masato history of the supposed mass Jewish suicide, and Josephus, the Roman historian admits that only a small group of Jews, like 12 or 20, in that range, killed themselves and the rest were slaughtered by the Roman troops when they arrived. There was a small suicide pack, but they didn't come in on a mass human suicide situation. The only other story I was able to unearth through time in Guiana, this mass suicide, had written 100 years before and was probably the basis of this story. A missionary named Smith, Smith and Jones. The missionary named Smith in the 1860s takes the Korean minions, cut loose from the earlier colonized sugar plantations that they helped to guard, and surrounded them. They move up into the Oranucle River Valley, their migrant. This missionary tells them that he's got a revivalist religion. All the plants are going to grow fivefold. They're going to live in paradise. After five years of being lied to, they're getting rid of this grunnel, starving up there. So he says, well, I got it wrong. At first I've had another vision, and first you have to die. Then after you all die, you'll come back as white people, and then you'll live in paradise. So supposedly then, up there on Matthew's Ridge in 1860, there was a mass suicide by these Korean minions. Probably killed by the state, but whatever happened to them, they're supposedly mass suicide. But you know, if you ask the old Nazis how the Jews died in the camps, they'll tell you it was a mass suicide too. They have a German word for it. Laban's Muda. It means sick of death. The Jews got sick of death, the Nazis say, and they killed themselves in the camps. So that's what you're being told about. Jumpstown. It's as much of a lie of Waco. First of all, you have to believe that one minister, that could convince everybody in the group to kill themselves. If you can get past that supposition, then you have to believe in Waco that the method by which they would decide to kill themselves is fire, fire the most painful possible way to die. And then if you'll buy those two premises, there's something else operating. I don't care what this 5% of the cells has decided. When that heat hits, the other 95% are heading for the door. Why didn't anybody come out? What were they doing? Sitting and burning alive like Buddhist monks, you self-immolating, you know, in protest of what? There wasn't anything going on. This is all a creation of the government. They planted the FBI. It's the only source for the mass suicide rumor. It's more of the same nonsense. They're covering up on how these things happen. These people were murdered just as the bodies in Jones Town were murdered. It was the largest black genocide operation of that day. And when I went into the backgrounds of the top people at Jones Town, the Buford family, the Laiton family, I found again connections to the top military intelligence office, the Naval Intelligence, Laiton's father ran chemical biological warfare on a dugway from 56 to 63 for the US government and gave $50 million at least for the operation down in Jones Town. This is Dr. Lawrence W. Laiton, Buford who married into the Laiton family. Her father was head of the Navy Intelligence for the whole seventh of the fleet out of Philadelphia. The families interrelated also with their major stock investors in Solvey drugs, which is IG Farben, the Nazi cartel that made the gas for the Jews and the chambers and put it in power. All of this, the move situation, Jones Town was setting the stage for Waco. I'm sure you've heard the parallels. I'm playing out here for the idea that this was a religious leader is improvement, or that this was even a religious community. The branched dividends that broke off from the seven-day Adventists were the pacifists sect of the religion. They believed that the seven-day Adventists weren't pacifists enough. So how did this become the armed camp? Was Koresh just a religious fanatic or is he like Jones? Someone who, when we go into it, will be found to have an intelligence background, a sleeper of some sort of control agent. Did Jones die? The body taken out of Giana doesn't show the trademark tattoo on the chest. Did Koresh die? There were questions early on. First reports on CNN, 26 escaped from the fire. There were tunnels. Remember the one guy in the middle of the seats that got out of the shed? How did he get past the police line? There were tunnels out of the situation. How many people were allowed to leave? Who was killed? How were they identified? Maybe Koresh was killed. And left in the situation. Did somebody get out? Remember the camp discrepancies like Jones down? There were supposedly 92 people there, 93 and first they could only find 70 bodies? What did they do just the other day? Bulldozed the whole compound. Just like the move house. Now we can't establish any independent forensic or ballistic or identification evidence because the police demolition team has finished history there at Wayco for Us. We have only the official story and that's what we're supposed to believe. We sit quietly at group of people who are attacked without any reason. Where they have to Koresh, Koresh went jogging that morning and the ATF could have picked them up. They followed them in and out of town for weeks. They had infiltrators. Many of them would survive the fire just as the Jones town survivors because there were 1112 people at Jones town but there's only 915 dead in the final town. And there's only 13 official survivors at Jones town where are the rest? Where are the trained killers that operated the concentration camp at Jones town? Where were they moved to? One place was Grenada and there were an operations there out of the mental hospital that was bombed and were doing testing. Jones's son went there and other top lieutenants. Some of them went, I believe, into the kill squads in South America but these people are interchangeable.