JIM FETZER "The Real Deal" (1-22-20)Dr. Katherine Horton and her court case against MI5

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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the real deal with a person who may be my favorite person in the whole world. Better not mention that to my wife. Dr. Katherine Hort, new, my admirer, beyond words. She's doing completely brilliant work on targeted individuals and a host of other events, making a real difference with a court case, very threatening to the powers that me who are doing everything they can to silence or even permanently if they can arrange it, Katherine. It's such a pleasure to be back with you on the air. After our wonderful visit in Bainstake, Lewis, New Orleans a few months ago. Thank you so much for having me on James. It's such a pleasure and so much has happened. And as you pointed out, I had the pleasure of meeting you in person for the first time last summer in New Orleans. That was very special. I mean, we got together with other investigators and that was the first time I actually met other people who have been doing these investigations for years or decades. And that was so much fun. I just can't wait to just repeat it somewhere. We should just have this kind of hangouts regularly because it's so important to exchange notes and talk about all this and actually inform each other what we have uncovered. But yeah, since then, a lot has happened and you had your court case and I had mine. I was originally sued British intelligence in 2016 and I went back into the court. I have to say I tried. I tried to go back into the court for the 12th of December 2019. So just before Christmas and yeah, it was amazing because I just got so many attacks, physical attacks, other hacking attacks and so on. So the whole thing was sabotaged and I mean, if you like, I can briefly update your view as what has happened because it is so telling, you know, about what's actually going on in the world and what sort of means people will use to prevent court cases from being launched. And you know, my idea for today would be that we may be briefly summarized the two court cases and what has happened and then we may be talking about what to do going forward, you know, in 2020. Because I think this year we'll see huge changes, you know, positive changes for us and huge changes for the other side, you know, so I'm very much looking forward to it. Well, I think that's a terrific agenda proceed. So yeah, okay, let me go first and so my quick guess, I mean, I should start with the fact that I was given the date of 12th of December, okay. Now aside from the fact that 12.12 is, you know, 3.3 and in this like cartels numerology. So again, a Masonic reference. It also probably for the very same Masonic reference was the day of the British general election, okay. So, you know, in that date was already encoded the attempt, you know, to prevent any sort of press coverage. And I mean, that was a safe bet because the press has refused to report about my case or any targeting cases for the last 40 years, but it had great intensity for the last 10 years, okay. So nothing came out. The British population does not know that there's a silent genocide and people being, you know, tortured alive in their own homes. And it has been going on for, you know, two decades, it's very high intensity and the last 10 years from crazy. So I thought, okay, this was the attempt to prevent any struggling journalists from having any, you know, surplus time to cover this. But then what happened is that Indy was pretty much from the get go when I started to recruit witnesses, the attacks on the increase, the direct energy weapon attacks. But in the weeks before the court case, they became so severe that I had to flee my flat repeatedly. So I was saying at hotels trying to find life things and I have to say my court case is vast. It comprises not just direct energy weapon attacks and non-conventional planting and Euro technology attacks and assassination attempts on myself, on family members, on the parent of my best friend, you know, carjacking, hacking, house breaking, stalking, anything, really. I think I've got the entire spy manual, you know, covered what's in my case and writing all that up and getting the evidence into shape and, you know, written up and ensorted is a huge task. And I really failed at completing all that. So I kept slimming down my case as I was approaching it. And towards the end, I still couldn't finish it all. So I thought, okay, I'm going to fly out to London. I'm going to just put in the last two things, slam it into the bundle and just open the case with whatever. What happened is that, you know, the attacks got ever more severe than I flew to London. So when I arrived, I realized that my hotel room was actually subterranean, probably London is one of those two places where you can have a hotel room under the street, but mine was exactly under the street. Okay, one of those Victorian quirks. And I thought, oh, this is great because I'm right under the street. So nobody can really shoot, you know, at me from the floor above. I should be safe. But what I completely ignored is that there was a mezzanine. The ground floor was actually between the basement and the ground floor. And from that flat, I kept being machine gunned continuously. So the nights in that hotel were horrendous. And I had traveled there, you know, two days before. And it was just impossible to work just because of the attacks. In the end, I figured out that I can, if I, you know, imagine a hotel room underground, you know, so you've got two hotel rooms. And then I figured out that the way that was shooting at me, diagonally, there was one point in my hotel room next to the plugs on the floor. If I just lay down like a sardine up against the wall, I could just protect myself, my body from attacks. So imagine I'm lying on the floor trying to work on my laptop. And as soon as my knee or foot sticks out, they are gunning it. So that was bad enough. Kevin, it's just outrageous, outrageous. I mean, you wouldn't be allowed to just, you know, M.I. Five couldn't just kick in the front door, you know, open fire with a Kalashnikov. But that's what they're doing. And just because they're using these pulsed energy projectiles, you know, they rip through your brain, they rip through your heart and you're in a organs and they will kill you eventually. But they can just fire and to run them home. So I thought, okay, this is already bad enough, but I'm used to this. So I was just doing the sardine, you know, on the floor. And then, you know, it just kept getting better. And eventually they started the pneumatic drill and tore up the road above my hotel room. I kid you. Well, I love the just to get the angle on you where you shelter because of the geometry. So they're unbelievable. Yeah. And in the end, I mean, people can check that this was the truth because I did a broadcast on my YouTube channel with the pneumatic drill still going. But what was hilarious? And after about 20, 25 minutes of the pneumatic drill going, the M.I. five agents cleared out. I suddenly just heard, you know, people filing out of the building and the gunning stopped. You know, I guess they have, you know, working regulations and they, you know, must work under this sort of stress, you know, by their contract. So they bugged off and then I was actually quite happy, you know, between if you've got the choice between being gunned and pneumatic drill, I thought, I think I liked the pneumatic drill, all right. You know, so that was it. And I kept working on this, you know, the particulars of claim, the evidence and trying to knock it into shape. And then, you know, I thought, okay, I've got it now. And it kept, you know, it's like with this, it just puts so much stress on your, on your body, the gunning, then the continuous noise harassment. And meanwhile, I'm also being burned with the chip, the chip implants under my scalp, you know, they tortured me with horrendous pains. I took, you know, medical or surgery grade painkillers to last through that. And all this is just on top of you. And you are litigant in a high court case. And the defendants are basically maiming you, okay. So I thought, okay, this is quite a lot by now. So I kept being delayed and delayed just because you can't work under these conditions. And then I thought, okay, but I still got it. So I missed the deadline of submitting everything the day before. And I thought, doesn't matter, I'm just going to print it out in the next morning. Take it to the printers. The bundles will be ready. And I'll just explain what had happened. And then what happened the next morning, I was making my, my legal bundle with bundle docs. So that's a, that's used by legal firms and everything. It's a bundle making software. You know, that's your court file with all the indexing and everything done professionally. And that platform works like a charm. It is amazing. I love it. And then what happens that morning, everything is there. I press generate on my bundle and this thing keeps crunching for hours. It just kept crunching for us. In the end, I thought, well, I can't do that. Anything now. I couldn't stop it. You can't restart the generation of the bundle. You can't abort it. You can't generate a partial, you know, court file, nothing. So this thing kept crunching away for hours. And typically it only takes five minutes, 10 minutes at most. Sabotimes. Yeah. I thought this is ridiculous. So I just kept waiting and waiting and waiting. Then I missed a deadline for taking it to the printers. And I thought it doesn't matter in the end. So you, you kind of keep generating backup plans. So my first plan of submitting everything while I was in London was blown. My backup plan of taking it to the printer the next day was blown, you know, already passed a deadline. And then I thought, oh, I've got another backup plan. Well, I always carry two laptops with me because I'm GCHQ and NSA always hack one. So I always have the other one as a fallback. And I thought, well, I do have two laptops now. I will just generate the bundle, put it on these two computers and just give one to the judge and one to the other side and then print it off after the court case. I mean, what the hell else can I do? Yeah. And even that was blown. So in the end. We should be one. Sorry, I want you to like this term. That's okay. That's okay. You know, talking about sabotage, you know, stuff that randomly happens with computers. Yeah. But, you know, I just want people to understand the scale of this. We're dealing with an opponent that is basically, I mean, they say they want full spectrum dominance. This is what it means. They control your individual computers, any online platform that you use. They control your physical body, your brain because they're cooking it with chip implants. They control the street workers. And you know, I mean, for the Mason, that's not a big deal because the Mason infiltrated the police and the five services and all these city services first. Okay. So it's no big deal arranging the, you know, the road to be torn up on the day, right? But still it's just, it's just ridiculous. I know. And in the end, were you able to get to the courthouse? Well, in the end, yes. And I just kept waiting thinking, I can't just go there with nothing. And in the end, I thought, okay, I just have to, so you know, jump into a taxi. Then of course, you've got London traffic. I was so lucky because my witnesses were already on the court house and they just set to the usher. Sorry, you just have to wait because, yeah, because of sabotage. I mean, what can we do, right? The whole thing is set up that they hammer you and batter you and assault you. And then you're the one who looks bad. And then the criminals didn't even turn up to the courthouse. Neither their lawyers nor they were there almost like the new advance that I will, I'm not going to succeed, right? So I thought, now this is very interesting. And I went in and one of my court observers later on told me, you know what? Strange. The court case that was actually due to start at 1130. When I arrived, I was then delayed by the usher and the court process starting and eventually they started at exactly 12 minutes past 12. And I'm thinking, does that tell us something on the 12th of December? So the 12th of the 12th may Sonic 33. We start 12 minutes after 12. Really? So the whole thing, and this is what one of the court observers told me. So the whole thing was one big, may sonic sabotage operation. But I thought, never mind, screw the bundle at the end of the day. This is the common law country. And, you know, I'm facing a judge in a country where for hundreds of years, most people couldn't read and write. So I'm just going to, you know, say what happened and explain it to him. And then what happened is the judge came in. I think his name is nickel. So N-I-C-O-L, remember the name. And he just didn't allow me to speak. He threw me like a curveball question. And then I had to answer that. And I wasn't allowed to actually set up the whole court procedure I wanted it to do, you know, making clear that I want to come in law and none of this may sonic fake, or you know that. And then it just went from there. In the end, he threw us out of the courtroom, all of us. I had, you know, all my witnesses there who are equally being tortured. And he just said, okay, come back when you have submitted these particulars of claim and send it to the defendants. Well, what's funny is that the defendants already have my particulars of claim because they deleted 175 page first version. That was, you know, last summer. I had already written the particulars of claim. And then they had, I had written it on a computer that had never been online. I had bought a fresh and I had started writing my particulars of claim on that device. It was never connected to anything. The Wi-Fi was off, yet they logged themselves in and deleted the thing and replaced it with a file that had 20 pages of the symbol hash. Now, when you have the symbol or the pound, I think you called the pound symbol in the US. When you have the pound symbol or an entire page, it looks like Masonic Tiling, you know, the checkerboard pattern. So that, you know, that was the defendants logging in, having a look around my computer, finding the particulars of claim and deleting it. So I'm sorry, you know, the defendants are not just reading my particulars claim live. They are even monitoring my brain. They already know what I'm going to write before I type it. So there isn't a question about them not having been given notice, especially not after they assaulted me for four years straight after we already litigated, you know. So that was the whole thing. And then it doesn't matter I was thrown out and I was told, okay, you know, come back when you've got the particulars off. I was like, okay, okay, I'll come back. Now, of course, for my witnesses, it was devastating because they had invested all this money and traveling down from all across the UK. They had invested their time and they are being tortured. Okay, most of them have these ear implants. They have to listen to MI files psychotic degenerates blivering 24 seven in their ear. And it is physically impossible to remove these implants. And doctors refuse refused to remove them. Okay, so they are being terrorized and they are being disintegrated physically, psychologically, mentally, financially, every which way. And then we're there and this judge just can't be bothered because it's not in writing. And the reason it's not in writing is because I'm dealing with organized crime is salty. Me. So I was really furious, but what was good about this when I stood before the judge. I actually said we are dealing with an ongoing genocide and with crimes against humanity. People are being tortured. He brushed it off with a smile. Now, that is unlawful because in Europe, at least for historical reasons, as far as I know, every court and every law enforcement agency has a statute, duty to act in the case of genocide and crimes against humanity. And this guy just laughed. He was so amused. He wasn't such good cheer. And I thought, okay, my friend, one always means twice. But then when I got home and I actually checked him out, I realized this guy, it is a very, very special judge because he was educated by the city of London. Okay, the city of London for those of yours who don't know is a secret tax haven. It's called the square mile and it's an extra territorial area inside London. So the city of London has nothing to do with greater London. It's a territory owned by the Vatican to this day. It is a tax haven or rather a no tax haven. And a lot of banks are registered there, right? But it's also not a part of the United Kingdom and the Queen of England has no rights to go on there. So there's a yearly ceremony where she visits the city of London and her bodyguards take her to the boundary dragon, okay, a big dragon statue facing her. Drop her off there. Then she waits there like a FedEx package that hasn't been picked up. And eventually the guilds pick her up with the city of London guilds with their bodyguards. And then she spends the day with them. Now that ritual, yearly ritual is there to humiliate, right, the Queen and to a drill home to everybody that this territory is not under her rule. It's somebody else, right? Mark Adolfi once observed that if you want to win terrorists in worldwide just a lot but crews missle into the city of London. Precisely. I would say you would probably also have to launch a couple more into Switzerland. But yeah, he was pretty much on the money in every sense of the world word. But the city of London is very special. In its one square mile territory it has two schools. I think a school for boys and a school for girls. And outside this territory it has only one school. It has one school somewhere and I think the south of England. Now, and this judge, we couldn't give a rat tale about genocide happening in the United Kingdom just happened to be educated at that one school that belongs to the city of London. What are the chances? Right? It's not eaten. It's not harrow. It's the city of London school. Give me a break. Right? I mean, if as a school child you're taken in by these criminals and educated by them. Of course, you're going to come out brainwashed thinking, you know, this may sonic corruption is the best thing in the world. I would surmise they had to have someone of absolute reliability handling. Oh, absolutely. A very special choice. Yeah, but I mean, at least judge Nicola identified himself. I mean, first of all, by having been chosen, secondly by his CV and 30 how he behaved. But it's ridiculous. I mean, we are dealing with people who are being murdered with military weapons and a high court judge doesn't give a damn. I mean, what he was saying is, oh, you guys, you are just basically sorry to use the word, but that's a fact. You guys, I just white niggas for slaughter. We don't give a shit. You don't have any human rights. Fuck off. Fuck off when you print, you know, filled out our paperwork correctly. I mean, come on. So I was furious. And after this case, I thought, okay, I'm going to calm down. And what was great is that there was one guy who's an expert in common law from Canada. He had flown over. And after the court hearing, he said, listen, you and I, we've got to talk because I have to explain to you the legal fraud that is being played on you and everybody entering the court building. And he explained to me how there's two layers of law. There's the real old common law that is not written. Apparently, it's the law of the people. And there, yes, of course, you can step before a judge and speak. You don't have to just, you know, put everything in writing. Of course, it's better to put it in writing, but it's the common law, okay? Where most people couldn't read and write, right? This 1000 years old. Now, the second one is a complete fraud and is using a separate dictionary. So things that we think mean one thing in their world mean a complete other thing. And the fraud is being perpetrated by replacing a human being in the way the law works with basically a sham trust fund in our name. So instead of being a man and a woman, apparently, according to this guy, we are a person. And that is just a legal fiction. And it sounds the same, you know, a person sounds like a man and a woman, but it really isn't in this entire legal infrastructure, legal architecture that has been built up over centuries. And it has other apparently other things as is using all definitions and distortions of all definition of words to basically pretend like you're, you're willfully, you know, submitting yourself to this legal fraud, you're willfully playing along. For example, if you ever use the word understand, it means stand under. So stand under their fate jurisdiction, right? Now I had heard about this before. In fact, there's judges in the US who had written about this and they had pointed out how the entire US version of this legal system is a legal fraud. It's under Admiralty Law and it's obvious because every flag in the US courtroom has this yellow, you know, the golden fringe on the outside, which is apparently the noting that it's Admiralty Law and not the law of the land. And under that law, every American is counted as dead at sea. So really, there's never any discussion about men and women in that courtroom. It's just the administration of the estate in the name of that person. But because the person is dead, you know, you can't really kill him. So let's not all get upset. Now this is, I have heard about this, right? But I never really fully understood the full implications of this. And he explained to me that you have to be very careful what you say to the judge because the judge from the get go will try to entrap you in this Masonic fraud. He will try to trip you into saying key words that will be, for example, him saying to you, do you understand? And if you reply with yes, thinking he means do you comprehend slam your falling through a trap door and you're in this person's sham where you have no rights because you're not a human being. Okay. You have kind of wishy-washy statutory legal rights, but you don't have any lawful rights. And you have thereby acknowledge that you stand under his authority. Exactly. Under their jurisdiction. So that was very, very interesting. And I really listened to the sky and I tried to wrap my head around this. And then he said, listen, I can point you to evidence that that's how this judge actually operated because at some point, as you spoke, you said at some point, I want. And he asked, do you want this or that? And he said, yes, I want something like that. And the word want is again, you know, to want something is to beg. And you're basically, you know, giving up your human rights, you're not on level with the judge. You become a ward off the court and you're begging the court to help you. But when you're a man and a woman, you go into the court, into the court that you paid for with your taxpayers money. And you say, well, I either want, you know, a restitution for damages, harm done and this sort of stuff. Right? But he also said that you have to be careful with words like litigant or citizen. And all these things because they have been redefined in the legalese fake dictionary to mean ward off the court. You're basically an imbecil and you're going to them saying, please, please help me because I'm such a moron. You know, please administer my estate for me. And they will most, you know, very gladly do that for you. So how many witnesses had come for this event? I think 21 people were gone. Yeah. But you possibly have to pose them. I mean, done something with their presence. I mean, I, well, you know what, this is so grossly abusive. You know what? It is abusive. And at first, I was, I was, I mean, the most crushing thing is to go out and you see all the witnesses who told me that they were tortured all throughout the procedure. And two of them were given live commentary by MI5 saying, look, the whole thing is going to fail. And die. We're going to kill you. Blah blah blah blah. We're going to torture you to death. So MI5 was broadcasting via voice to skull, which is a known military technology to my witnesses, jeering and torturing them physically and, you know, torturing them psychologically. So how are poly, how are poly capric? How are poly? Yeah. But now, just outrageous disgusting. Yeah. Disgusting. It is disgusting. It is revolting because it shows a complete disregard for human life. And you know, this judge, you know what, when I came out, I was really upset. And then this guy talked to me about the whole legal fraud. And I thought, okay, now I understand. And then you also said, when you said the word, the word I want, the judge apparently, and when he mentioned it, I even remember the visual image. The judge apparently went like, you know, he kind of laughed and chuckled. To himself and kind of slumped down in satisfaction that I had fallen through the trap door and you can kick me down the street like a can, you know, and I actually remembered that. And at that moment, I remember thinking, what the hell is he grinning about? I just didn't get it. I didn't get it that I was being played. Now I thought when all this died down and I went back to my hotel room and, you know, MI5 fired up the machine guns again, I couldn't, you know, even think clearly. But what I did then is I just informed everybody that I'm working with, I explained to them what had happened. I somehow lost it through the night of gunning. And in the next day, I thought, okay, I'm not going to take the flight back to Switzerland. I'm going to stay here and I'm going to go to the British Library and get any book and all books I can get on the common law and read out about this. Now in Friday, I also thought, and this is important for people to know because again, it shows how the system works. I thought I am so physically exhausted from weeks and nights of physical gunning and torture. I need to rest. I'm so stressed. I can't hold a thought. And I thought, when London could I possibly go that's publicly accessible where I will not be shot at with weapons. And then I thought, oh, I know I'm going to go into the cafeteria of the Supreme Court. Okay. I had been there before and I knew how the whole thing worked because I witnessed court cases there. And when you go through, and this is very important to know for the London victims, if you want some physical rest from torture, go to the Supreme Court because you go through, you go through metal detectors. So MI5 can't really lug their massive direct-to-lensy weapons through the metal detectors. You go downstairs and then there's wonderful atrium. Okay. Beautiful cafeteria with silence, no purps, no gang stalkers, only the security of the Supreme Court, right? And no torture and no weapons. So I went there and I got myself a big, you know, mug of tea and I thought, okay, what just happened and what am I going to do? Now when I started thinking about it, I realized, hang on, this is just fantastic because the judge behaved not just atrociously. He also violated my rights. He violated my witnesses' rights. We came therefore relief. We stood before a high court judge. We were being tortured and I said there's a running genocide and crimes against humanity and he didn't give a damn. That's not a judge. That's a Masonic agent. That's a secret service agent. He is not answerable to the law or the insecurity of the British nation. No, he obviously is answerable to somebody else who wants my court case out to door ASAP and that's what he delivered. Okay. So I thought, well, in all this entire court case, all the moving pieces are now in place. I've got my witnesses, I've got my expert witnesses, I've got so much evidence I'm drowning in it. The one moving part that's a big uncertainty is the judge. And what happened is that M.I.5 just blew it. It, they blew my court date and it all pivoted on this one judge. And then he's also, you know, one who's clearly labeled as a city of London man on Wikipedia even, you know, his entire school career is there. I thought, oh, I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to go back to the court and I'll say, look, right? You gave me a judge who's clearly an agent. I'm going to combine it with what happened in my first court case where the transcript was manipulated in my first series of litigation. I had two amazing judges. So I know the difference between a real judge who's honest and one of these guys, right? It's, it's like a difference like day and night, you know? And I'm going to go back and I said, well, for this court case, we need the judge who's independent. I mean, come on, you know, if this were a case about, I don't know, voter phone, you can't have a man from voter phone, you know, the voter phone legal counsel being the judge. And here you have basically legal counsel for the city of London, the top one terrorist finance in this entire operation, you know? So I thought, you know what, M.I.5, you did me a favor because now I actually have a reason to start talking in a focused way about, you know, who the judge is. And I'm going to put down demands about the judge. He mustn't be a Mason. He mustn't be a member of the Secret Society because they're in on it. He mustn't be associated with the city of London. I think that cuts down the high court to pretty much more than five people, you know? So, but that's the thing and the reason why I explained this in such detail is because I'm convinced that this Frank Remington who sat on your case, he's, I think, from the same lot. And add to that, research done by Janet Fellen, feeling or fellon, I never know what to pronounce her name. I'm sorry, but she's done amazing work because she looked into the finances of these judges in the United States. And she uncovered that they were being paid to the tune of millions using fraudulent mortgages. And the way this entire scam works is that the judge would take a mortgage for several million dollars, okay? He would have a salary of 250, maybe 350,000 per year and pay back a multi-million dollar mortgage within just a few years and then take another mortgage. Now this is money laundering because it's physically impossible for him to generate the money with which he pays back the mortgage. So the message is the money is coming from elsewhere. Somebody else is paying back that mortgage, you know? And it looks like, oh, they are just investing and reinvesting. But when you do the sums, there's a net inflow of several million dollars, you know, into this judge's estate that's unaccounted for. And she says that two out of three judges, she'll get to, or you're talking about my judge Frank Ramey? No, no, no, no, I don't know anything about Frank Ramey. I'm talking about the US judiciary. Yeah, yeah. How the process works. How the process works. Yeah, feeling, yeah, feeling. Feeling, yes. Now, but Janet says that, I mean, she didn't do random statistical sampling of all the judges, but she looked into a lot of judges' accounts by, you know, by researching the mortgages, which apparently are public in the US. And she said, out of those judges, she looked into two out of three had these sort of mortgage patterns that are strongly relevant of our money laundering, of big game money laundering. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So you should really interview her. I mean, she's amazing. She has done an interview with what's it called, watching the hawks on RT a long time ago. So I've seen, you know, I've heard about her work. But she needs to be re-interviewed because people need to be aware that this is what's going on. You know, these judges. That's a great idea. I can use all of you to set it up. Yeah, because, you know, at Frank Remington, your judge, and this guy, I think Andrew is his first name, Andrew Nichol, they don't risk their careers, you know, basically showing their faces of corrupt judge for nothing, you know, they want some cash back for their services. They render to the city of London, you know, and the city of London is the one of the top number one money laundering centers. And by the way, if you look at a map of London, or maybe if you allow me to share my screen, this is something that may be your, please do. Your viewers might be interested in because if we go to Google, I'm just going to bring up Google Maps for London, people need to be aware, even in the US, where the city of London is and where the Royal courts of justice are. And the reason why people need to be aware is because if, you know, once we finish the investigation and it will become pretty clear that the United States to this day is still controlled, right? And it's basically a colony of the United Kingdom. People might realize that all the US courts are basically for the trash can. They are a fake court under Admiralty Law, assuming everybody in the courtroom is dead. And then it might just turn out that the only really valid court is actually in the colonial headquarters in London. Do you see what I'm saying? So, you know, when we roll it all up and say, okay, if these are Admiralty Law courts, where the real courts, you're quickly realizing on the annual real courts in the United States, unless you re-what's it called, re-constitutes one under Commonwealth. But right now? Can you do the screen share? Oh, yes, I will do that now. So, now, so basically this was my introduction to all your American viewers explaining why the hell you all should care about this, okay, even though I'm in Europe. And you're in the US. This is important, guys, okay? Now this, what I'm showing here, and I hope you can see the red ring. Yes, yes, yes, we can see it well. It's the city of London. And let me zoom out to show you how small this is. But the tower is actually in the city of London? Yes, it is. It is. This thing is the M25, this ring. And it's the motorway that really much, pretty much, you know, delineates greater London, you know? Now, inside this massive greater London, with about 12 million people, they're about, is this tiny area, the size of a square mile, okay? And it's ancient London. The ownership of the city of London goes back to before William the Conqueror, right? So before, what was it, 1055, what was it, 1066, I never know. But anyway, one of those numbers, okay, William the Conqueror, look it up. But the only owners who could possibly own this place are the Vatican. If it's not the Queen of England, it's the, it's the, it's the 1066, that's it. So, you know, and here inside the city of London is, as you pointed out, the tower of London, I mean, it looks like the boundaries on the inside, but no, no, no, no, no, no, the boundary is the outside of the tower. And this means also that the crown jewels are extraterritorial. They don't belong to the Queen, they belong to these guys, okay? And they loan it to the Queen when she has some appearance. That's why it's important. But now, here's San Paul's Cathedral, also very important, but also look at this area. Temple Church, these are the Knights Templar, okay? Temple Church. And then what you have here is the ins of court, okay? So-called ins of court. They all have Templar names, okay? The inner temple, the middle temple, right? Even the tube station is called temple. Now, this is the Knights Templar Church, the Vatican mercenary army's church, okay? Now, the reason why this matters, guys, is because the royal courts of justice are right on the boundary. And as much as the red drawn Google maps boundary is wrong here, it's also wrong for the Tower of London. The real boundary is not denoted by this, it's denoted by boundary dragons, okay? That face outward. Now, if I change to Google Maps, I can show you the boundary dragon here because it's visible on the screen, hang on, it's processing, processing. Now in the middle of the streets, the street which is called the Strand, there is a massive statue with a scary kick-ass dragon, okay? A massive dragon. Now, okay, we're going down here and this dragon, here you can see it, okay? This thing here, that is the dragon, okay? I will show you an image of how scary the dragon is in real life. But if you look where the dragon is, that is the real boundary, okay? Doesn't matter what Google thinks it is, this is the ancient boundary of the city of London on the east side and the United Kingdom on this side. Now if you look and you think the boundary goes like this, you know, transfers to the street, not the way Google draws it in because Google thinks that the boundary was running a longer street, you know, basically through the boundary dragon up here and then up chance relaying. That's not how the boundary runs. The boundary runs straight through the boundary dragon, okay? Like this. And what that means is that a large part of the royal courts of justice fall into the city of London. In other words, they are extraterritorial. And what's notable? I have to check where exactly the office is where you pay your court fees, but I could just swore on it somewhere here, which would put them extraterritorial to the United Kingdom. Okay? Now this is super important because when I go to the high court, I go to the so-called Queen's bench, okay? The Queen's bench and it's this building over here. Okay? That's where you hear the emergency injunctions and it's already injunctions, okay? Court 37, Queen's bench. Now when you look at this, it's even detached from the main building. So in other words, why is it called Queen's bench? I mean, if this is the Queen's bench, who's bench is the rest? Do you see what I mean? So there's huge, huge fraud in plain sight, okay? So this is the Queen's bench, why was? And this is the role courts of justice stretching all the way to here. This is the fees office and down there's the Brown-Boundary Dragon down here. Now the boundary dragon, it's the boundary dragon city of London. Maybe we can see an image. I'll probably have to show you by doing a normal Google search. Now that is a pretty impressive statue. It's a really, so there are little boundary dragons. I'll show you the images. They are scattered all around the periphery of the city of London. Okay? The normal ones look like this, like little cute little cute little, you know, dragons with the night's template cross and the fiery tongue. Okay? But the one in the strand is this guy here, right? Completely different structure, much more, you know, vicious looking. And this statue is in the middle of the street, right? It's like on this big pedestal, oops, was the image. So here, so you have basically traffic going past it on either side, on the right and on the left. And look, look at this guy, look straightening. Okay? Behind the dragon is the city of London outside is the rest of the United Kingdom. Okay? But the reason why this is important for everybody, even when you're not a private litigant, maybe you're litigating for a company is because if you are dealing with any commercial cases, your case would typically go to the so called Rolls Building. It's a new building inside the city of London, but the Rolls Building, let me just go back. And this is the Royal Court of Justice here. The boundary dragon is this little speck, you know, under the letter E of Tesco Express. But the Rolls Building is, let me just find this guy, it's here over there. This one here, okay? What's here? That's the Rolls house. It's number seven, Rolls Building, okay? This is where the commercial courts are. But what it means, I mean, even Google Maps with its red boundary puts the boundary there, okay? In other words, every single here's the boundary according to Google Maps. But this thing, or sorry, here is the commercial courts. What it means is that every commercial case is being litigated in a court outside the United Kingdom in a tax haven. It's a different jurisdiction, okay? Absolutely stunning. Absolutely stunning. Most people don't know this. Now this is important, of course, for my running case, of course, but it's also important for your running case change. Because, you know, first of all, if you look at the picture of Frank Remington, in fact, let's bring it up, I remember distinctly that his photo and all the photos of the other judges, they had the flag in the background with the golden fringe, you know? So, basically, in the, yeah, here it is, here it is. Maybe I can get a color image of this here. Frank Remington, let me just type in judge because I've got a black and white image of this guy. But what it means is that the court in which you are basically addressed this guy, here, let me share my screen. I can give you the evidence and then people can look up the color version of this. So this is Frank Remington and this is his official photo. That's a photo of you at your court hearing. If you look at this image, you will see the US flag and this thing is actually the golden fringe, this fluffy bit here. Okay. Now I remember that on the court side, there were color images. What was the name of the court again? They had a survey court. Dane County. Yeah. Circuit court. Okay. Because there, on the main court side, there should be county of the day. Yes. I think it's this one here. If you looked at all the photographs of the judges, they all had this typical flag in the background and I promise you every single judge that has, you know, his or her profile image taken anywhere in the United States will show this other version of the US flag in the background. Okay. Yeah. Look, this guy can't be reached. Okay. We're I think about the target. I'll show you when it loads in the background. But basically, this is what I uncovered. Okay. So, you know, it's all a big fraud. And one of my viewers pointed out to me that in Florida, there is a building, a court building. I think it's a Miami, one of the main court houses in Miami that you don't see it from below, but from above on Google Maps, it looks like a ship. And in fact, the lawn outside is landscaped to represent waves. So when you're going into the courthouse, you're literally climbing on board of a ship where the ships captain, the judge of the clock, right, will basically decide over your fate, but you're long fall overboard. You're somewhere in the high seas. You're dead, you know? Well, you're certainly bringing home the importance of this distinction between Admiral T. Law and what we think is the US Constitution. And it's profoundly troubling, Catherine. I have great trouble getting, wrapping my mind around it. And I think you're in the position to explain it, for which I'm enormously grateful. I'm getting an inkling of what is taking place here, but believe me, it appears to be an enormous magnitude. I mean, this is an ultimate distinction that the public has to come to grips with to understand major deception and fraud in relation to the administration of law and justice within the Constitution and indeed the whole commonwealth of nations that appears. Yes, absolutely. And what is important for me is that people can go out into any court building and check that what I'm saying is the truth because in any court building you will see, hang on, it's not the US flag. There's some little frilly stuff on the outside. What does that mean? And apparently that's the Admiralty Law flag, the Admiralty flag, whatever it is. It's some nautical stuff that I don't know anything about, but it's not the US flag. Why? And why is that in every single courtroom up and down the country? Why is that? Don't we need to find an expert who could distinguish between Admiralty Law and the Constitution? I mean, it seems to me this is a rather pressing matter, all things consider. I mean, the enormity of the scope of what we're addressing here is that it is vast. So while you're talking, I'm just going to search for, oh yes, here it is. I've got the image. It's called the Wilkie D Ferguson Jr. court house in Miami. And I've just taken a screenshot of Google Maps and I can just show you what it looks like from above. So for those people who want to look it up, it's Wilkie D Ferguson Jr. court house in Miami. And hang on, the image is still loading. My computer's being slowed down. They don't like it when I talk about this stuff. There's always something that happens in the background. Hang on. It's almost there. Cranky. Yes, here it is. Okay, let me share my screen. And let me show you so that people can really can actually see for themselves what I was talking about. So this ladies and gentlemen is the Wilkie D Ferguson Jr. US court house in the shape of a ship. Okay, this is a ship. And here's the, you know, the, what's the mast or maybe a, you know, in a, in a steamboat. It would be the chimney, but it's a ship. All right. And not just that here, the grass has been landscape to represent ways. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. And here when you, when you drop down on street view, these, this is not a flat lawn. These are little hills that have been landscaped into the, into the, the ground. So even when you're on the ground, you can see underlating waves. When you're, when you're going along here, it's almost like you're walking on a plank, you know, from pretty much this looks like the shoreline, you know, with rocks. It's almost like you're walking from the shoreline across the water on, on board of the ship. But it's actually a ship hidden inside this building, you know, so their ladies and gentlemen is the fraud in all our faces. Now, I didn't find this. It was one of my viewers who actually sent this to me. I would have never found it. But now that you know it's in Miami and you can look it up yourself. It's right there, you know. Why would it be a ship? Obviously, it's an icon representing Admiralty Law, I mean, the real rule or the regulation and statutes under which we live on our govern or not those that we have presumed them to be here in a four. So what could be of greater importance, difficult to imagine, Catherine, given the role of law in society. Which I have found has been weaponized to be an instrument of political abuse by the powerful to inflict upon those who are speaking out about issues they would prefer to suppress. I mean, you have your, you are the most stunning illustration thereof, imagineable. My case is relatively insignificant in comparison to yours in my opinion. Because of the enormity of the issues yours are ever since. Mine is a classic slap suit where it's illegal in some 27 states, by the way, where they've actually brought a fraudulent case against me to silence me to punish me. For having exposed it soon to hook was a fabricated stage event where no children died using a school that had been closed by 2008. Running a female drill, a two day exercise. And then presenting it as mass murder to promote gun control. And I'm fascinated that you recently did an update a short video, put it up on YouTube and you were immediately banned and suppressed. Tell us, share the image related there to Catherine. That's a fascinating aspect. We won't have a lot to say about my case today covering yours has been preeminent and by far of greater importance. But I'm fascinated that even a discussion about the case, your opinions about the case. This is analogous to Leonard Posnern as attorneys writing to Google Dassen to suppress discussion by Kevin Barrett and Kurt Neem will up my case. Discussion of the case, they don't even want to allow discussion opinions about whether the case was properly handled or not. They want even to suppress that and here you're giving another striking example of that very point. Well, you know, the thing is that as you were speaking, I'm trying to bring up the YouTube guidelines. Okay, I'm trying to find the community guidelines I've shown them before, but they had in the old version. I hope I can find it somewhere. What they did is they gave a couple of examples of what sort of content is forbidden on YouTube. And you know, in a long list of obviously egregious examples saying, oh, I think all black people are stupid. Or I think all Chinese people should die in this sort of stuff. The last entry was saying, I think this horrible terrorist event didn't happen and nobody got injured or died. Just say you think that's just offering your opinion. That's not even declaring it to be a fact. Yeah, exactly. It's not even an assertion about the event and it's assertion about your beliefs about the event about your thoughts. Your state of mind. How absurd can we get? Yeah, and I would like to look that up again because that was the clincher because it became clear that what they are desperately trying to suppress. It's the revelation and people uttering their knowledge of the fact that these are staged events. So they're basically. I actually showed the London School of Economics where it's called popper taught my first book on the nature of scientific knowledge is dedicated to popper. He of course has spoused a fallible. Falsification is methodology that the way you can obtain really the only way you can obtain evidence to determine whether or not a theory is true by attempting to falsify it. And if you're unsuccessful in your efforts at falsification, then you have reason to think that it may be true. Or perhaps you've not yet discovered the right way to prove that it's false. All of my efforts in relation to JFK 9-11, the wellstone Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing and so forth have been attempts to apply popperian falsification methodology to determine whether or not the official narratives are true. And again and again and again, they have succumbed to falsification. We've been able to demonstrate their false. So what YouTube is doing is precluding you from even thinking about it. They're precluding you from attempted falsification. Popper emphasized that the most powerful instrument we have in discovering the truth is rational, debated criticism. They're saying even criticism, even offering the suggestion the official narrative could be false is forbidden. Yeah, that is exactly right. And basically what happened yesterday. So I should say that on my channel viewers haven't seen me for a month because after this court hearing I put out one more video and then I just went to visit my family and I talked two weeks off because I just couldn't take it. I couldn't take the topic. I couldn't take the harassment in the terror and I was actually just spent two weeks trying to be with family and recover before launching into 2020. Now, you know, I can I can later on update my viewers when I'm back. You know, what what else happened in my life in this time? But you know, what is still telling is that last night, after another two weeks, I was doing other stuff. I wanted to go online and I remember you would ask me if I was up for an interview and I said to you yesterday, oh, no, James, maybe do it on Thursday because today on Wednesday, I would like to report back to my viewers. So I want to go online tonight and what happened is that 10 minutes before I actually wanted to go online. They are shut down my access to my YouTube channel. So I got a YouTube community, community strike and I was locked out and I'm still locked out of my YouTube channel. I can't upload any videos and I will be locked out for a week. So the email that I would like to share, I would like to show people what these emails look like and what the, you know, what the bone of contention was here. The email I received yesterday, 21st of January 2020 and look at this at 11 minutes past 11. Okay. It says, hi, Dr. Catherine Horton, stop 007. Our team has reviewed your content and unfortunately we think it violates our hate speech policy. We removed the following content from YouTube breaking, Professor Jim Fetzer's court case. And for this, I got a community strike. Now, where does it say so blah, blah, blah, blah, and at some point, how it affects your channel, your channel has now one strike. You won't, won't be able to do things like upload, post or live stream for one week. The second strike will prevent you from publishing content for two weeks, three strikes in the same 90 day period will result in your channel being permanently removed from YouTube. Now, last year, I actually got a threat from a Mason who had shut down my Twitter account. Basically sending maliciously sending strikes. He I've never insulted him. I never know. I don't know anything about him yet. He made up claims and he flagged some tweets and Twitter shut down my stop 007 Twitter channel, which had 8,000 followers. And the same individual are the same accounts at least. Then sent me a letter threatening that he will shut down my YouTube channel probably in early 2020. That's what he said. And now this strike came literally I think two hours after I sent the email to you and 10 minutes before going online, wanting to do an update to my to my followers. And again, you know, it is about your court case. That is the one the strike I got. And I even got a strike before that for an interview with you. That was apparently I think also violating hate speech. There was the interview with you about the all these false flags. And there the whole violation of hate speech was that it fell under their definition of hate speech, which is apparently saying that these events are not real and nobody was that. That's already hate speech. Even though we had. We did a four-parter it turned out when it was broken down from publication when we did it on not. Out of spot of false flag and you have wonderful comments. I mean, it's just a sensational introduction to this very subject, Catherine. If somebody wants to understand how to figure these things out. But then you see that's what they're suppressing. Evidently, they hate independent or unconventional thoughts. Thinking things through is now a violation of YouTube policy. And the tape wants nothing of that kind. I mean, after all, was there anything remotely qualifying as hate speech in your comments or discussion about court case? No, it wasn't. Right? It was beyond words, ridiculous beyond words. Yeah, but you know, we also have to be aware that it's more than just censoring our free thought. What they are actually censoring is the revelation of vast criminals are fraught being perpetrated by the secret services and the governments. And by the way, the entire press who are all in it, right? The press can see the discrepancy as much as everybody else. They have first access to the footage. And yet they play along. They are co-conspirators to finance, if I so, to fraud, but it's building up to be mass financial fraud and also genocide. Right? It's much more serious than just censoring people's free speech. What they are trying to do is they are using these force flags to put into place key legislation that will remove everybody's rights in the United States and trying to, you know, also come over to Europe and do the same. And they try, they are trying to remove all our rights and basically they are looking for way to kill us all legally. That's the goal. I mean, the whole gun confiscation and gun control agenda is just to remove the last defense that the private individual might have when a gang of thugs, you know, from the government come to your house and try to drag your way to be killed in a FEMA camp along with all your loved ones. Right? That's the real agenda here. Kevin? No, no one could say it better. That's absolutely sensational. My heart goes out to you for what you're having to endure. For all your witnesses to travel and taking the time and the expanse and the effort to be there, enter the judge that also blatantly sabotage your cases and disgrace reflects very badly on the UK, the city of Wanda and the powers allied against you. I can only express my absolute dedication to your cause and my admiration for your efforts, which are breathtaking, absolutely beyond words. You know, James, I think it's it's it's more than that because every single one of our court cases, your court case, also one of our general Flynn, right? There's also some news in that court case. There are all key court cases because that is the only way we have to fight back. You know, I mean, your court case and also general Flynn's was launched against you too, right? By the deep state and there are other court cases like that, but through that, we are slowly trying to fight back and against all these law, sorry, these lies that are being put across and trying to take down key individuals. And typically behind the scenes behind these court cases, you realize that these individuals have been exposing horrific crimes that go completely un prosecuted. I mean, nobody started the prosecution about the information you have provided, which is that these were all frauds. And huge financial fraud went along with your case as well, right? Where they gathered donations for the supposed death of a child who couldn't have died. Well, you make an excellent point because just as they banned our joint discussion about how to spot a false flag where we have a dozen or 15 or more individual cases, it's the tip of the iceberg. They must be fearful that if the public begins to catch on, how massive are the frauds being perpetrated in order to manipulate public opinion in order to subordinate the role of the people to the dictates of the rich and powerful, the worry-all hell may break out. And if it were to happen, of course, if we have the means to defend ourselves, if we have our guns, the effect could be analogous to that of the French Revolution and manifestly, they don't want their own heads to roll. Yeah, absolutely. And you know now that we're both on on the show and you also mentioned the the meet-up in New Orleans. I would like to comment on what you just said. If people understand these false flags, right, the big ones in detail, they will start caughting on about smaller false flags, which happen in all our cities and all our communities all the time. And you know, there I really loved how your friend Gary King, right, he was amazing because he opened my eyes and that's our meet-up in New Orleans to the fact how the local radio was putting out fake stories about fake shootings and fake terrorist attacks. And he educated me that in these fake news messages, which he said happened every day on the radio when people drive to work, you have to look for three tell-tell signs. The news report will always include one of three words, the word man, the word ram and the ending or the word son. And he said, these three are always in these fake news reports. Ram, that's a clear satanic symbol, all these horner, you know, goatny things are satanic, man and son, well, S-O-N son or son, S-U-N, I-G-N son worship, again back to Vatican, you know, the Vatican crime cart on the Jesuits, okay, so it's these three. And what was funny is he told me the night before and then the day he drove us back to the airport, he at some point said, oh wait a second, let's just turn on the news and listen to it, I promise you, there will be a fake shooting and watch for these three words and sure enough there was, there was, right? I don't know, I was, I was fairly blown away. Yeah, and he said, listen to it, here it is, it's, you know, the news, everybody was actually the commuting traffic into New Orleans and there was the news attack, a news story, again, somebody, you know, shooting, randomly shooting people for no reason. And I can't even remember what the keyword was if it was ram or man, I think it was man at that point. And it was an odd construction, it was an odd word, where it really stuck out that the word man wasn't meant to be there. And I can't remember the word, but maybe you do, but it was, what was also very important is that as, maybe you remember that, as Gary was explaining this to us and we were all laughing about the news report, do you remember how a massive stone just hit the windshield in front of you? Do you remember that? So I even asked Gary for photograph and evidence photograph of the stone hitting the windshield because I noticed when I'm traveling somewhere, my car windshield started being hit. And it got a few dense, not a spectacular one like, you know, Gary's windshield, but smaller ones, but the impact sound is terrifying, right? And I thought, oh, how a lucky am I that, you know, these stones keeping, you know, whipped up and I'm just driving into them. But at some point I realized, no, these stones are being fired at my windshield because it was always time. And I remember that, you know, I was at the airport waiting for my flight. And I realized, hang on a second, it was the moment when Gary had revealed all this and we were laughing about these idiotic mason's putting in these on these fake news. That is windshield got a massive dent. And this huge stone just hit the windshield. It was massive. It was right in front of you, you know, you went the passenger seat in the front. And I remember thinking, what was so odd is that this stone came at a slanted angle. And I didn't hear the stone bounce typically when a stone is hit, it has a, you know, transverse momentum, but the car hits it, it flips it typically on the roof. So you hear it typically on the roof, you know, you kind of go under it and it bounces and it bounces off. I didn't hear the stone. So I was thinking either it was shot at us from one of the cars that was overtaking, which was a G, the big fat ass G, or it was actually a directed energy weapon. And it went through the two glass panes, but it had the impact actually on the on the front, the past energy projectile, you know, I mean, behind me is the is the whiteboard. Maybe if you're patient, I can turn this around. It's probably just on the other side. But this whiteboard behind me, was shot three times with a past energy projectile that had been shot through the walls and it dented. It puts three dents into the whiteboard. I'm using this whiteboard as a shield everybody at night, okay, just to try to protect my body against the machine gunning. And that was the night after I had published the first witness affidavits. So the, sorry, the victim affidavits, the tick box affidavits, which are all under oath and signed. And I published the first I think 30 or something for the first 15. And I made a video about that. I went to bed and at night, bam, bam, bam, you know, massive shots. And then the next morning I look at my whiteboard and there is massive dents in it, you know. So these weapons can then steal, they can travel through wall and then steal at the same time. And I'm pretty sure that they can smash up glass because on one of my lampshades, they lampshades, they did smash up a little glass pane. And similar, you know, action. So that's what we're dealing with, okay, it's an end of the false flags that you expose are the key to this because you can see how it's not just your local radio station and your local masons and secret service goons who put on fake news. It's the government. They put on fake terrorist events and they will be no better anybody into the ground legally or physically or whatever means they have if they expose this criminal fraud. That's what it's about. And that's why your court case is massively important. It's about our right to expose criminals. Yeah, I think you take my breath away on so and all of your accomplishments, what you're doing, your perseverance, your dedication, your courage, your integrity, your willingness to sustain physical bodily, hard mental, anguish. Beyond the normal can, I gotta say, it's just a great pleasure and honor to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with you. I wish you well and I look forward to our next conversation. Let it be soon and give us more information about your case and persevering for truth, justice and all humanity, Katherine. This is of enormous importance. Thank you, James. You're too kind and thank you to your viewers who are, you know, sticking, sticking it with us and sticking it out with us and us supporting us. I mean, you know, that without them, we would be lost, I think. You know, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on the real deal with my very special guest today, Katherine Hart and I look forward to our next conversation. Thank you all for watching.