Gemma O’Doherty: Lawfare on Journalism (Richard D Hall)

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Welcome to Rich Planet TV, I'm Richard D. Hall. Now as you might know I am currently involved in a civil action against me concerning my published work about the 2017 Manchester Arena incident. I will give a quick update on that before introducing this week's guest. If you want full details of my case, please follow this link. Now on the 8th February 2024, the judge ruled in favour of a summary judgement which means if this is upheld most of the evidence I wish to be heard at the trial will be excluded which I contend is completely unfair. I said in the last video that I would be appealing against this judgement and appeal was submitted and the details of my appeal can be found from this link and I urge everyone to read the appeal document. Now on the 15th of April another judge, Mrs Justice Stein, DBE, refused me permission to appeal giving her reasons which can also be found from the link but she states that I may within seven days of receipt of the order apply for a hearing at which I may renew my application for permission to appeal which I am currently in the process of doing. The trial is to take place between the 15th and 31st of July 2024 in London before a judge of the media and communications list with a time estimate of four days. That's assuming I don't get my evidence that I wish into the court. Now I am not the only journalist to be put through the courts for what I consider to be nothing more than diligent journalism. Gemma Audotti, a multiple award-winning journalist from Ireland is also suffering similar treatment to myself. She was chief features writer at the Daily newspaper, the Daily Irish newspaper, the Irish Independent where she worked for almost 20 years. She has exposed many cases of murder and child sexual abuse that have been covered up by the Irish police and the security service of Ireland and by the Irish state. But when Dennis Orbrion who was the Clinton's biggest Irish donor became the owner of the Irish independent she was ordered to give up her anti-corruption work or leave her job. She then successfully sued the holding company I&M. She has since made a number of films including a film about Ireland's longest and youngest missing person Mary Boyle which revealed how a politician had ordered the police to shield the political suspect whom they believed had raped and murdered the child. Her work led to a new inquiry and marches around the country demanding justice for the six-year-old child whose killer is protected to this day by the Irish police. She is passionate about restoring sovereignty in Ireland, protecting Irish culture, heritage and family businesses while ending the globalist policies that have left the country unrecognizable and its citizens burdened with death and bureaucracy. With her colleague John Waters she was one of the first citizens in the world to take a legal case against the unconstitutional COVID-19 lockdown to defend the fundamental freedoms and livelihoods of the Irish people. Welcome Gemma O'Doharty. Thank you so much Richard. It's an honour to be here. All right and it's on on at the heavy here Gemma. Now obviously you are a trained journalist and worked for a mainstream journalist. What the most red newspaper in Ireland was it not? Yes, yes the Irish independent had the biggest circulation. I mean it's circulation now is on the floor because it's it's just a propaganda mouthpiece for the government but yes I began my career in the mid-90s and I suppose very early on I started covering subjects like water fluoridation and vaccination. I was led down that track and back then there was no issue really reporting on those matters but I could see that there was something serious going on that there was some sinister agenda I suppose behind these various environmental and health toxins that were being put into people's bodies but I suppose it was only more recently that I came to understand what it was all about. So what year would you have started as a journalist? I suppose around 96 I really got into my stride. At that time then you didn't feel any restrictions on what you could report would you say? No. Do you think your eyes have been fully opened yet the artist to certain things that you're covering now for example? At that time. Yes. Well I suppose I look back now. I do remember the first time I wrote about Dr Andrew Wakefield and the MMR and I probably was the first journalist in Ireland who supported or at least wrote about his research which you know was very controversial at the time making a link between the MMR vaccine and issues with children's gush and then possible autistic leanings and tendencies. So I always remember being attacked that day the day that we published that story by the health editor she still actually is the health editor of the paper. So there were little things along the way that made me feel but now I mean there's just no way it's incredible how you know we're supposedly in these progressive modern times but now I mean anyone who would have written a story like I would have written 20 years ago by the MMR and autism you know they'd be fired instantly if they even suggest to that now. Now the issue of tackling police corruption is something which I think you've got to be quite brave to take on the police as a journalist because they're connected to the state and tell me how you first sort of came across police corruption what were the first stories that you covered what what type of corruption were you uncovering initially? I suppose as a journalist like I had no idea of the depths of corruption within the Irish police I was naive. In fact before I started to write about the problems with corruption I would have you know done stories with the police I would go out with them on speed checkpoints and worked with them when they were allegedly doing you know drug scanning in airports and you know so I had no problem with them but I was approached one day in August in 2010 when I was covering another story at the Dublin Horseshoe in fact and this man had asked me if I would investigate the pre the murder of a priest in 1985 in the Midlands at a big political wedding in a big country mansion and that led me down the road I suppose that I'm on today that was really the beginning for me of looking at how the state covers up murders that for them I suppose there would be embarrassment and how it can bring all of the institutions of the state into line such as the judiciary the health service politicians you name it and in this particular murder of an innocent priest he was severely beaten because there were many politicians present at this particular violent death it was covered up for many many years and so that led me on a journey I started many families started to come to me then and say that they too had been victims of police corruption and that their loved ones murders had been covered up by the state and invariably there was a political connection somewhere so my desk in the independent was piled high with all of these cases of very well-known murders which the police had always said well we can't get to the bottom of us there was no reason and I basically was able to expose in many of them that the reason was that there was a political link and either the killer was related to somebody involved in politics or the law and you see Ireland is such a tiny country such a small population so the elite they all know each other it's very different to to here in the UK you know so they've all been to the same schools and they all mix in the same social circles so if there is a scandal within the elite in Ireland it's very easy to get it covered up so you think it's a smaller network a play in Ireland very the same name as Koppel yes and I just want to ask you about Father Nail and the Law who you just mentioned so that was well not an intentional murder it was a fight that went wrong was it all well he had been assaulted in the days before his murder and it was an ongoing issue he was a wealthy man he grew up in a big country estate and he he was a very good priest a very good pastor to his people there was no scandal associated with him as much as the media liked to portray that but that was not true but he was a great horseman and he had a lot of he had horses and he had a great eye for a horse so that was something he grew up with and so it basically came down to money and his money and his wealth and his land and his horses were being taken from him by people who were exploiting him and when he started to reclaim what was rightly his he found himself in a very dangerous situation so he had been involved with the family who were in my opinion exploiting him and it was it really took place at a wedding involving the party that is often in government in an out of government fena fall and you know many high level politicians connected to that party were present at the wedding at which he was murdered it was an after party so there was a lot of drink and it was the day after the wedding and an awful lot of hangovers and people you know as I say drink a violent row broke out and was mulloy aligned to a particular political party then well his father actually was a senator in the first Irish parliament yes yeah so but it wasn't it wasn't to do with politics it was just that the the killer himself was very very well connected and it is believed that the were senior cabinet members present at the time of the murder and that night they were leaving that mansion at high speed they were seeing going through this country village in their fast cars and getting out of there so I mean it was such a controversial case that in fact about a year after his murder his file was stolen by a well-known criminal called the general Martin Cahill and he stole that and a number of other controversial files in order to blackmail the state because in the case of father nigh mulloy there were letters written by the trial judge in the case to the then dpp the director of public prosecutions saying that he would look after the trial and they didn't need to worry that everything could be handled right so it's corruption at the highest level then yes I'd like to ask you now about Veronica Gehrin who was murdered in 1996 and she was a colleague of yours can you tell us about that yes well Veronica actually really she was the first person to really expose what happened in the father mulloy case and in particular this inter this judicial interference with the dpp and that it was a state cover up and in fact the night that she was due to publish the next day in the sunday independent which was the paper that she wrote for our sister paper and she was going to reveal the paper was planning to reveal these high level connections and corruption within the father mulloy case her home was attacked and there were shots fired into her living room nearly killing her little boy she was murdered in 1996 it was headline news all over the world and it was put out that it was because she had been upsetting gangland gang lords drug lords in Ireland and the criminal underworld with the stories that she with the stories that she was publishing but a little bit of probing into that case showed that there was a lot more to it and in fact she was preparing to publish details of judicial corruption she was very very involved in guard exposing guard the police corruption guard that we call them the garthy in Ireland and it's my belief that she was murdered with the involvement of the state because she was really getting you know becoming a problem for the state she was bringing embarrassment upon the state so how did you feel about that then because you're doing the same job as she is in your expose and very similar practices and she gets murdered I mean did that affect you well I was only starting in journalism when she was murdered I didn't I didn't even know her she rarely came into the office and so a very different type of journalist to me because I tend to focus more on white color corruption she was certainly reporting on gangland but she was I suppose she trusted senior garthy to an extent that I wouldn't dream of I really I suppose a lot of the time certainly since I started exposing corruption at the highest levels of the police I would not trust any of them at this stage so you know I have had obviously I've had like yourself I've had death threats I've had major issues with my own security but it doesn't stop me but I do know and I've often said publicly that if anything happens to me I will be in no doubt that it will be the state that is responsible and not any member of the criminal underworld okay so by 2012 then you'd been working in mainstream journalism for 15 years and had numerous successes with political murders and police corruption and that kind of thing and the the ownership of the newspaper changed hands and you noticed there was a very sudden change in their in you know in their ideology as to regard your work because you've been uncovering political murders so tell us tell us what the new owners how the new owners dealt with you yes so at the time the ownership of the company changed and as you said the paper was taken over by Bill Clinton's biggest Irish donor who was Ireland's wealthiest man although how he accrued his wealth is another matter of Dennis O'Brien and at the time I was completely immersed in stories about garthy corruption in particular I was working with two garthy whistleblowers who had come forward to say that there was rampant abuse within the the motoring penalty point system that you know senior garthy crime reporters judges state solicitors were getting their speeding points wiped as a matter of course and he wanted to do something about a two of them came forward they were one of them was a sergeant in the traffic core very very brave men today they are considered heroes but I was the only journalist at the time willing to work with them and tell their story and I got a story about the police commissioner at the time man called Martin Callanan that he too had had his speeding points wiped now he wasn't speeding on a mission to you know robbery or anything he was just going to a meeting and so under the new management at the time I had no idea that this was going to be a problem like previous to this a story like that would have been on the front page management would have been congratulating you and you know so when I saw the story I obviously checked it out I had to confirm that I had the correct address etc the correct person so I went to check that I did and I confirmed that and they refused to publish my story and I couldn't believe it and so I kept at them and you know the days were passing and I was worried somebody else was going to get this story and then I realized that I was being I was being punished I was being abused for the first time in my career within a paper where I'd only been I mean I didn't I served my paper loyally I was winning awards I was getting murders reopened I was the subject of television programs where you know my work was being applauded and the company was getting great praise for this and next thing I was being told basically my job was gone and I refused to back down on these stories about senior police management being corrupt and I told them that I would see them in court so I took three legal actions defamation unlawful dismissal and personal injury and they were settled in the high court in January 2015 so you won all three of those well they settled they settled and the apology was read out to me in front of the president of the high court in Dublin on a separate and general journalist have an obligation to hold power to account be it in on guard the shea corner doll Aaron the health service and other institutions of the state we must be allowed to do our work without fear or favor defending the public interest and the rights of citizens especially victims of injustice and the marginalized so that was in 2015 and that was your exit your swift exit all not so swift from mainstream media and into being completely independent then yes completing although you work this freelance from that point yeah I know I made a decision like from the day that I got my settlement and apology from them I made a decision that nobody would ever tell me what I couldn't couldn't write again it was a defining moment for me yeah yeah I can identify with that yes all right now so tell us about Mary Boyle then because there are some parallels with muddle and mccown with that case so this is you left mainstream journalism you wanted to start new things and there's this case of this missing child who has possibly been abused nobody knew where she was I don't know a lot of details about the case but you made a documentary which was watched by a million people and it caused marches on the streets in Ireland so just to give us a brief outline of that case and why you decided to cover it and what resulted from that well it was one of these cases again that was an untouchable case you know it was one that the media they just sort of stayed away from it and she was our youngest and longest missing child she was six years old 1977 she was actually born in Birmingham so technically she was English but a Irish parents and they lived in a very remote part of Donnie Gaul which is over in the northwest corner and they had been visiting she was an identical twin and she had been visiting her grandparents who lived on a very very isolated farm with her uncle was present and he is the person who I believe to be responsible for her disappearance he has died recently unfortunately and it was at the nob of this case was an allegation that a local politician very very notorious politician a man called Sean McEnif had contacted the local police station in Bally Shannon the town where the child was from and order where she was visiting the town where the child was visiting and he had effectively ordered that the suspect was not to be arrested questioned and that the family were to be protected now the family and suspect in particular were belonging to the same political party Fina Folle as the counselor Sean McEnif so it was political interference once again and so I made a documentary I attempted to interview the uncle we got hold of police statements that showed that the mother in particular there were problems with her statement she appeared to be protecting her brother who was the last person seen with this little girl on a very quiet laneway close to his farm that has always been an allegation in fact in relation to this case that Lord Louis M. Baton may have been involved because he had a castle known as classy born very close by and of course there were so many claims that you know young boys in that area were being sexually abused in that castle and that you know one of the reasons well I firmly believe that he was killed not by the IRA but because his sexual degeneracy pedophilia was out of control and some of these young boys were starting to talk so there is a theory that this young child who was an identical twin was taken over to classy born and I can't approve that but certainly her uncle was responsible for her disappearance and yes I made a documentary 2016 it got one million views on YouTube before it was taken down the case was reopened by the police on foot of my investigation and documentary but that was just you know for the optics and they had no intention of arresting the man who I believe was responsible and that was her uncle Jerry Gallagher okay now another case if we can just touch on it that you covered as a freelance journalist was to do with a particular rugby coach who was if you use children tell us quickly about that one then we move on to your more recent legal actions yes yes he was very very well now rugby coach he actually spotted the talent in rugby in he spotted the talent in Ireland's probably most famous rugby player Brian O'Driskel now he did not abuse Brian O'Driskel he tended not to abuse his rugby elite it was more he was also an English teacher in a drama teacher and it was more vulnerable boys that he went for but for decades in the school that he taught tear in your college which would be the Irish equivalent say of eaten a very very prestigious boy school that produces a lot of doctors and lawyers and the elite of the elite he had been abusing boys there for many decades and the local police had protected him some young men when their adults had gone to the police to report it even when they were teenagers in fact and they had been told basically to go away and he was moved out to Dublin's biggest university when the allegations against him started to become you know a little bit problematic so he was moved out to UCD University College Dublin where he set up it was allowed to set up a rugby academy and there he would have had access to teenage boys so I took up the case and I knew that it was going to be problematic but I managed to track down some of his victims they for the first time had the opportunity to talk about what had happened to them and we published our first piece and on foot of that many many more came forward the police at the time the guardian were extremely angry about my articles I was abused severely by them by the lead detective who instead of congratulating me or thanking me at least he was extremely insulting to me on the days that we went in to cover the trial and because I had said you know clearly that these men could have got justice 20 years earlier if the police hadn't sat on their complaints and you know I'm just going to ask you that so he's a rugby coach right so he doesn't have political affiliations like the people that we spoke of previously so where does how does he get the support of the guard out you know why would the guard want to support just some rugby coach and protect someone like that rather than just go by the evidence and arrest him when he's got people coming forward so as you connected well he is he is connected to the same elite but I think really you know in Ireland there's a narrative that goes around that is is the Catholic Church are the main abusers of children in Ireland my experience has been that in fact it is our police force who are the greatest protectors of VIP pedophiles and in fact I know many priests who went to the guardian to the police to report child abuse child abuse in the home for example and they have told me nothing was done but of course you know this narrative is always there it's priests who are pedophiles police could not be pedophiles under any circumstances my experience is the contrary so I'm not saying I haven't reported on on pedophilia within Catholic borders I have you know I won't shy away from that of course not but it is the police whose job it is to investigate VIP pedophilia or pedophilia among the lower ranks of society and invariably I have found that they will protect first and foremost they will protect all right now so that particular rugby coach what sentence did he get and well there have been more charges on him recently so I've nearly lost count he was quite elderly now he's heading I think into his 80s so he's certainly in for several years how long he'll get I don't know in the long run he could get early release because he is elderly but if you hadn't pursued that continuously he probably is free now oh yeah no the victim stated on the public record on the national broadcaster that this was as a result of my investigation and there's no question that it was you know but again dealing with the police the levels of corruption and senior management and the police the problem with the police and it's the same here that they cannot tolerate any criticism or scrutiny and that is the problem they have no oversight so that's why they get away we're covering up the VIP pedophilia now we'll come on to the two cases that you're currently dealing with civil actions against yourself later but I just want to ask go to a little video clip that I've got of Ian R. Crane I think did you meet did you meet Ian R. Crane when he was alive I did yes I spoke at his AV event yeah and I interviewed him in 2011 and he's talking about Ireland in this particular clip and with regards to 2008 financial crash and how Ireland was basically taken over by globalists at that time to do with the banking system and the economy etc so just have a look at this clip you believe that they're not really interested in nation states they're not no absolutely these guys are effectively trans nationals or globalists I mean they have a passport by accident of birth but they're not interested in the nation state they have no loyalty whatsoever either to a nation state or certainly to the the people of that their nation and this is epitomized by the likes of Peter Sutherland former attorney general of Ireland in the Irish government in his younger days but he quickly moved into the EU where his EU commissioner he was the founding director general of the World Trade Organization in 1994 I believe it was he's today he's the chairman of Goldman Sachs he's a former chairman of BP and he was actually on the board of Royal Bank of Scotland when it collapsed and was taken into public ownership at which point he was asked to leave and I believe that Peter Sutherland proved his loyalty to the right for all those who think they're the right he proved his loyalty in September of 2008 when he effectively presided over a meeting between Brian Cow and Brian Lennahan the T-Shock and effectively Chancellor of Ireland Dermot Gallagher who was chairman of Anglo Irish Bank and Paul Gallagher who was at the time the attorney general Gleason and Paul Gallagher are both builder burgers and and effectively Peter Sutherland who is tagged the father of globalization effectively sacrificed the Irish nation and the Irish people to his globalist masters in September of 2008 when he instructed Cow and Lennahan to effectively under to get the taxpayer to underwrite all the debts to the Irish bank I mean he's absolutely spot on he you know I mean I I wasn't aware that Ian had such a knowledge of Irish politics and Peter Sutherland if there was if we were to say who was responsible for the fact that we are becoming a minority in our own country for the fact that we now are the European headquarters of all of the dreadful big tech companies Twitter Google Facebook the pharma companies Pfizer you know they're all headquartered out of Ireland and because they can do whatever the heck they want so yeah the fact that we are the most indebted nation probably in Europe Peter Sutherland is at the top of the pile there he was the arch globalist he's responsible largely for the fact that Europe is in a state of absolute you know loss of national identity and you know that we're seeing this mass immigration I mean he was really there at the beginning of all of this so yeah now I really admire Ian Crane for you know his insights into what happened to our country now islands got a long history and it's had many struggles in order to maintain its independence and and bring about its own constitution which is a whole other story in itself which you would say is extremely important for Irish people to realize to maintain their independence to prevent globalism but you argue that there are the political power structure which is in police ostensibly is not really the power structure that there's a corporate structure pulling the strings do you want to expand on that Gemma? Absolutely well you know we gave way our sovereignty to the multinationals it really started around the 1970s 1980s when it was clear the politicians were being bought off and the corruption I suppose really took hold then and it has been rampant ever since and you know it's very very clear who is calling the shots in Ireland it is the multinationals it's that the politicians that the I mean the people we have in government currently they're like autistic children I mean they you know they're not only very young and inexperienced in age it's quite clear they don't have an original thought in their heads they despise the Irish people they're given a script every day and they're told to read it and then shut up and you know it's beyond embarrassing what has happened to Ireland but you we think of Ireland back in the 60s for example it was very close to economy very very agricultural extremely you know producing excellent meat dairy we were capable of feeding all of Europe really and very very good quality of life you know most of us are just one generation removed from the farm but you know we were very I suppose isolated in a good way and I we were told that this was a bad thing for us you know that we were oppressed because we were Catholic but in fact we had very high moral standards and I think as somebody growing up in the 70s and 80s and you know we would come over here to the UK or go to the US and we would see very different culture in both countries compared to our own we could see the family was breaking up in in in the UK and we would go home and like when I was growing up none of my friends parents were divorced divorced hadn't been introduced into Ireland we only introduced abortion in 2018 and so we grew up in a culture that was incredibly safe family was very strong government was very small because when you have I suppose yes the church was present it was telling us how we should live our lives that it's not a good idea for parents to be splitting up it's not good for the children it's not a good idea for you know girls to be sleeping random being promiscuous so that they were the standards I suppose that we were reared in and and there were standards that protected all of us and so but we were closed as an economy as a society we were quite close even though many of our our family members and people we knew were forced to emigrate because I suppose they wanted to become wealthy they wanted to become rich we didn't realize how rich we were in fact by having this agrarian lifestyle and of course being starved in a famine as well well that that was earlier though well that was nothing to do with a famine that was a genocide orchestrated you know by the forces of the cram and there was no shortage of food in Ireland ever but the food was being exported to England and you know it was a genocide because we refused to accept the book of common prayer we refused to accept Protestantism we refused to give up our holy math and our Catholic beliefs and you know that that has always been the struggle between the English and the Irish and it remains so in fact you know a lot of these these invasions were funded by the Jews who despise Catholicism and everything it stands for now Ellen has a constitution and how important is that well now it's you know it's worthless it's worthless now I don't just explain why well because it has introduced the killing of unborn life and Ireland was the most pro-life country in the world you know we grew up with extremely strong pro-life values it was instilled into us and it was our our identity you know you cannot kill the unborn child you cannot kill the elderly if they become inconvenient you cannot you know euthanate from from birth or from pre-birth to death life is sacred and that's how we see it and so once that was introduced in 2018 the constitution that the constitution is modified then it's been modified well it's been ripped to shreds you know we actually had a clause in our constitution that said that the baby's life is equal to that of the mother that is how pro-life we were as a nation we were ahead I mean to me this is progress this is this is a sign of a very progressive country a country that protects its most vulnerable citizens because the child in the womb has no voice so we have to be its voice so once we introduced the killing of the unborn for me that was the end of of our country it was the death of the Irish soul really and the Irish nation and I think many people are coming to see that now but of course they also introduced these were all Soros George Soros funded referenda and they introduced gay marriage again you know in a Catholic constitution the idea that two men could get married undermining the sacrament of marriage between a man and a woman and they also introduced the concept of children's rights which was again very dangerous undermining the family undermining the rights of parents suggesting that children could have rights separate to their parents would you disagree with two males or two females doing what they want in a private situation in terms of are you against gay relationships or I believe that homosexuality is a disorder it goes against the natural order it goes against what God intended for us and so this idea that things done in private you see often these relations because in my opinion they are disordered they can these people can get involved in online pedophilia and you know so what is being done in the privacy of their own home can in fact result in a vulnerable victim being abused online so you know I am a Christian I believe that one day we will face judgment and you know if you're a Christian you believe that God sees everything and there is no such thing as you know doing things that are disordered or go against God in the privacy of your own home unfortunately what we've seen with the gay lobby is that they have insisted on bringing their practices into the classroom for example and many of our schools in Ireland now fly the flag of homosexuality saw to me to a Christian so as a Christian I could not possibly endorse anything to do with homosexuality under any circumstances all right well I said but I think you'll um what can I say you may get some some messages in your inbox about about that particular issue I guess well in Ireland that's quite it's quite a strong view isn't it no I don't well to you it's not no to to an English person though but to an Irish sorry to an English person it is but to an Irish person I don't think it is well can I ask you have you got any gay friends male or female anymore you don't you don't I mean no I like seem a bit because I don't know what what the figure is 10% to 5% I don't know what it is but I have a I have well a number of gay friends and they're nice people and they they've never harmed me they've never harmed anyone else that I know of they're happy in their relationship I'm just playing I'm well I'm playing levels have a good obviously I've got to because you said that um yeah so you so you've you've lost yeah it's yeah no I understand like I do understand that to an English person that that is a very difficult thing but people seem to forget that Ireland and England are very different we grew up in a very different culture to you very different I mean homosexuality was criminalized and often tell fairly recently I mean it was here too yeah but as a as a Christian I cannot endorse this uh disorder it's a disorder in my opinion and we didn't plan to talk about this we're going off in a little bit of a tangent but I just want to ask you if if if someone is a homosexual living in Ireland what what would your advice to them be would it be to abstain would it be to go to another country would it be how would you how would you advise their live their life according to the Bible and not and try and resist those urges or or what I would say to them one day they will come face to face with Jesus and you know to to come to know Jesus to love Jesus and when they love Jesus then they will give up their practices I mean the only difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals is that homosexuals believe that the body's waste disposal unit is a sex organ yes yeah and you know we believe man and man I shouldn't love no but this is true I mean this is true and like if you look at even just the biology of of of these practices they're extremely dangerous and unhealthy yeah yeah I mean I agree with you that that's not the function of that part of the body but so but at the end of the day it's you know these physical materialistic that the pleasures of the body is how they identify themselves right and you know I think when we come to facing our final judgment in this world you know like really that we gave all of our energy to satisfying ourselves in this capacity I really think it's so sad because I've nothing personal against any gaze I think many of them are very talented people yeah but because they identify themselves according to their sexuality I think that's really sad so you think there's a degree of hedonism in relation to being obsessed with sex whether you're gay or or or straight you think there's it there's it's exactly that what is it cellar's besie is to be taken if you know at the right time or if you want to be in any other words well I don't I don't believe in I as a Catholic I believe that sex outside of marriage is a sin yeah yeah and I believe that sex outside of marriage has led to the destruction of society and you know it's so damaging to children and when when you know children are growing up in a broken society and so yes I mean I have strong views strong views they're not strong views they're Christian views and once you start breaking up the family then you break up society and you know it begins with promiscuity when promiscuity becomes acceptable in society then you you see how the state then can get involved in the family and you know this idea that sexual liberation is the best thing that's ever happened to women I would say it's the worst thing that's ever happened to women because when women were forced out of the home the state then got their hands its hands on their children and started to educate them and turn them into little Marxists so the the woman in the home plays a very very valuable role and women should we've recently had a referendum in fact in Ireland which was utterly rejected by the people which was fantastic because in our constitution we say that women have a special place in the home and children need their mothers to be with them it is the mother that passes down the culture it passes down they she passes down the morals she passes down the faith to the child and so children who are being reared without the mother in the home are at a disadvantage so we were asked in a referendum in the last few few months in Ireland to have that clause removed and to try and have within the constitution recognition for other types of family and the Irish people said no we want man and woman husband and wife to be recognised as the family and that we see mothers as having a very special role people refer to it as the LGBT plus movement etc and you mentioned before the interview about schools so do you want to hear well yeah you see the LGBT plus plus plus is leading to transhumanism because as soon as the child is out of the womb now they hand them a unicorn that is the toy of choice for babies now and unicorns of course have no gender and so they're programming them from a very very young age so this idea you know LGBT etc we know that they cannot contain themselves as you say within the privacy of their bedroom they're bringing their drag queens into you know story time in crashes which is sick beyond belief and I think the average person would have a big problem with that and they're being used by the globalists by the transhumanists because they want children to be very very confused obviously about gender and you know to not believe that there are two sexes so it starts very very early and this idea of bringing these trans you know dirtial men in dresses into destroying the innocence of little children I mean it's a sick idea so they are not capable of keeping things within the privacy of their own home they're encroaching on our children they want are they're stealing the innocence of our children and that's my biggest objection to them well let me give you my opinion on drag queens and children okay now a drag queen is a man dressed up as a woman so it's inherently it's about deception it's about deceiving the audience of what their gender is right now we all know what the fundamental difference between a male and a female is a male has the capacity to rape someone whereas a female okay you know they can sexually abuse someone but they can't rape someone right so it and generally you know that that's how rape happens right now so if if I'm going to leave my child with a person if it's a woman I'm going to have a slightly different mindset to if I'm leaving my child completely on their own with a man because I know that that man's got quote-unquote a weapon of a rape yeah the woman hasn't okay women can still abuse abuse children but I think it's different so if that man is going to then pretend he doesn't have a weapon yeah i.e. that he's a woman a drag queen and present himself to that child if he doops me and I think he's a woman maybe I don't want to leave my child with a man maybe I only want to only trust a woman with my child so if that person is disguised as a woman then it's it's trickery isn't it it's deception and you see a young child isn't sophisticated enough to understand that deception they know they don't understand it they see what they see they don't see behind the mask yeah they don't and they're not old enough to identify the difference between a male and a female and that that generally it's men that rape children right so and that child is it's just confusion drag queens for children it's ridiculous yeah well you see but this is where the whole LGBT gay political agenda leads and it's it's very very very dangerous you know they're they're destroying children I mean you know there's no need for children to be spoken to about about sex you know they have one childhood and they should be allowed to live it in innocence and you know save them protect them for as long as you can keep them innocent yeah because the world that they're coming into is so evil and dark right okay well thanks for that Gemma now we just want to come on to the legal cases that you were involved with which have parallels to my own case which one do you want to start with because there's two ongoing at the moment yeah yes there's two cases being taken against me the first one began about five years ago and it relates to a tweet that I put out about a notorious pedophile who had walked free from court after being convicted of being in possession of more than one thousand images of child sexual abuse now this man Martin Girren happens to be the brother of the merger journalist Veronica Girren that we spoke about earlier and so that day when I wrote that tweet there was an uproar all around the country and many people were really furious with the courts that they they had allowed this to happen his other brother who had previously challenged and defamed me when I had spoken about the state's involvement in his sister's murder took a legal action against me claiming that I was talking about him in the tweet when it was quite clear that I was talking about the pedophile brother and this case about one tweet has been ongoing against me for five years it finally went trial in November the jury kicked it out but it was a hung jury and the trial is to be heard again in the coming months right they have used his name as Jimmy Girren he is a counselor he's an independent politician and he's quite a bit of baggage there which you know I exposed in the first trial and I look forward to exposing even more in the next trial and it's quite clear to me that this case is being used as a means of attacking me defaming me in the media and trying to really I suppose interfere with my work right so just to recap two brothers one is a convicted pedophile one is not a convicted pedophile their sister Veronica Girren was murdered in 96 and you said that the pedophile brother of Veronica Girren who was murdered in 96 has been charged with X, Y and Z which is a completely true statement his argument is ah well did you mean me the other brother I clearly stated I think six or seven or maybe eight identifying features from that court case that day which was headline news all over the media nobody thought I was talking about the counselor politician because he's not a pedophile I clearly stated the pedophile brother and further down in the replies it stated his name Martin Girren um but I really just believe that the I mean in any other jurisdiction in the world this case would have been thrown out on day one so what's he seeking from it is is there an injunction or money or what's what's he's oh money it's money it's in a amount well I mean look you know the lawyers there's no man's status but there will be fees well I've made it clear they will never get a penny out of me over my dead body because I know what what they have suggested is that I wanted people to believe it was him and this is the most extraordinary thing about and that's because they know that if they were just going on the tweet alone that there's no way they could get it past a jury but they needed and that they were so shocking in the jury trial when the barrister for Jimmy Girren started to tell the jury that I had written this tweet with malice intent that I wanted to mislead my large audience at the time I was the most retweeted journalist in Ireland with about 60,000 followers and they were claiming that I wanted people to believe that I was talking about the wrong person right this this is you know the craziest legal action that's ever been taken and this is obviously causing a lot of stress and wasting your time and everything else yeah I've learned to live with it now I see it as my battle and it's you know the last year we were in there with with lots of people in supporting me and the courts hate that yeah so we're exposing the corruption within the court system within the judiciary and Jimmy Girren is giving me the opportunity to do that now then Gemma you oppose the lockdowns and you oppose the vaccines as I did and in November 22 you were writing for the Irish light newspaper and in that newspaper you wrote an article which was looking at young people who died suddenly and you weren't stating how they had died you were asking how they had died and that this needs to be investigated and so that brought you further legal action so can you just explain what happened there well Ireland's excess mortality since the rollout of the vaccine has been among the highest in Europe some months it's been so far beyond any other country in Europe really really frightening because we've very very high uptake of the vaccine up in the 90 percent it was really disturbing and shocking to see how the Irish fell for it so in our newspaper the Irish light in November 2022 we published a front page of just a tiny sample of the young Irish people who had died suddenly according to their death notices they had died suddenly and we published it was a postage stamp size picture of each of them we didn't name them and in the story inside we said we don't know why so many young people are dying suddenly we don't we have no idea how these people died but we need to know why they died and why are the media not asking this question because whenever a young person dies suddenly in Ireland now it's just all they were the wonderful they were great sports people all these tributes gushing tributes but the nobody is asking why are they dead so obviously that's the story that we have to cover and a few weeks later one of the mothers of one of the young men who had died suddenly went on national radio and started defaming me accusing me of hating her how could I have done this by publishing her son's picture which was already all over the internet because this was a young 18 year old who had died suddenly and I just could not believe that this that this was allowed that she had been given free reign over the national airwaves and her solicitor then stated that it was their intention in a lawsuit against me of harassment harassment that they were seeking a change in the law so that in investigative journalists effectively would not be able to investigate suspicious deaths anymore so they threatened legal action against me etc I blackened out his picture even though I didn't need to do that I had done nothing wrong legally ethically morally journalistically perfectly normal journalistic practice in fact that story was one of the most important stories I've ever written because when we have young people dropping dead all over the place and no journalist wants to ask why I would say it's one of the most important stories I have written well just to interrupt Gemma it's almost identical to what has been stated by one of the claimants in my case that he wishes to change the law or have the law changed which is would be this is my interpretation of it to prevent journalists from investigating victims of terror attacks and the victims terror attacks can involve suspicious death I believe certain terrorist attacks are suspicious so therefore they're suspicious death so it's it's sort of most identical isn't it? It's amazing they're trying to bring a law and you law based on you being sued for printing a small picture of somebody's face and question and how they died yeah it's it's extraordinary it's almost as if someone has put words in their mouths I would say because in this case the mother is from what I would say is a family that are known to the police and you know it's a vulnerable sort of family it's not the sort of person that would come out and say we're going to change the law and she has enough on her plate I would have said is she says that her son committed suicide I never said that he died as a result of the vaccine she implied that I had but if I had so what you know it's it's not a crime but I never said that but what happened was I then because I knew there was something wrong with with her story and I then got hold of the Inquest report and I established that the Inquest was an absolute shambles and there were many serious questions about his death that needed to be asked including the fact that there was a possible drug debt connection to drugs and in fact the at the funeral the priest had spoken about the scourge of drug dealing in the little town that they were from so I published the Inquest report I published the many problems with the Inquest and they went back to court and they got an injunction against me now an Inquest is a public document an Inquest report is a public document and the law is very clear the coroner is act states clearly that Inquest shall be made available to the public and they were trying to get me to remove an Inquest report so I stood my ground and less than two weeks ago I was arrested at my home over this case because I had refused to remove an Inquest report I was dragged into court bundled into the back of a car with three detectives who didn't even have a warrant on them and I was locked into a court room with the National Broadcaster present several other media about seven police her lawyers she wasn't present and a corrupt judge and nobody knew where I was because I wasn't even allowed to bring my handbag with my mobile phone and I was locked in this legal court whereby I refused back down and he adjourned it to the following Friday two days later and I said will I bring my suitcase if I because I'm willing to go to jail over this they hate our history our history the proudest history of any people in the world the people the proudest history of freedom but all they fight for now is corruption money greed vice vice criminality that's all they stand for now in these courts not one lawyer not one lawyer was willing to stand with me today this is the headquarters of the new world order in Ireland because these courts are now run by outsiders external forces they are not run by the Irish judiciary the Irish judiciary are controlled the constitution is not the guardian of these courts and there is no guardian of the constitution left except all of you here today people in here every single day are losing their homes their farms their children in the secret children's courts very vulnerable families who have done nothing wrong good parents but because they may take a stand against vaccines our state education their children are being stolen from them by the child trafficking agency to slough and they are the most fierce weapon that's why we say law fair they don't use warfare against us they used law fair they're trying to take my home they're trying to take everything that I have worked since I began in journalism just up the road nearly 30 years ago everything that I have worked for they're trying to take my reputation my home everything my freedom today I was threatened with jail a Wednesday I was threatened with jail they've been threatening me with jail for more than a year you all these courts these courts with plots without your taxes it's got to stop we are putting the brakes on this corruption we really are putting the brakes on this corruption because they did not have the courage to jail me today they did not have the courage and the three detectives that came to arrest me at my home on Wednesday I know that all of them that were involved in that including RTE that sat and tried to portray me as some sort of criminal involved in harassment they're all getting very very frightened and very ashamed of what they're involved in the Irish people have had enough we saw the other night on prime time even in RTE where they handpicked their the hand picked the audience when they were asked does that do any of you here support the EU migrant pact not one hand went up not one and they are representative of the most woke part of the population so that is reflective of the mood on the ground every one of you who came here today let me tell you that you are battling you are saving this country because I could not do that on my own I couldn't if I was on my own and there today they would have sent me away they would have taken me to my joy and I might not have been seen again for a while like Ena Burke and I support Ena Burke because I've had some issues with that case because I hate the idea that a young man is you know unfortunately losing you precious years of his life it's different I'm much older than him and I've had my career and this is a very serious crime in relation to silencing journalism but unfortunately Ena Burke is left in there and he's rotting away as a young man and it is absolutely disgraceful and he should be released he should be released but he's no violent intent and he should be allowed to go back and do his job so people are getting sick and tired the wider public and today we put manners on those powerful gowns in there they think that they put on their fancy dress the same with these people in these fluorescent jackets they put on their fancy dress every single morning and that gives them the power to abuse us who pay their wages we who are their masters they serve us that's why we call them public servants but they have stopped serving us and when they stop serving us the social contract ends they no longer have any power over us now we gladly say that if I'm guarded the sheikana return to being our servants to using resources to go and investigate real criminals not to use your taxes to come to the home of a journalist and take her away in an unmarked car shock this is a unbelievably dark day and this also stands back to the fact that another journalist who was attending court several decades ago when she was returning home from court we know what happened to her we know what happened to Veronica Giro and because I said that the state had questions to answer in relation to her murder her brother has been harassing me in these courts for almost six years and that case begins again on Tuesday that pantomime so they're trying to wear me out with these farcical court action law fair not warfare law fair but let me tell you they're not going to wear me out because I will continue to fight them until we get this corruption under control so I'm asking you to please do not lose hope this is a massive achievement today they're too afraid to jail me because they know if they jail me the repercussions are going to be massive for Connor Dignum for all of these people and for the people up in Lentsterhouse who are no doubt getting orders from their external masters to carry on this charade today because no doubt he was on the phone getting his orders that judge from Lentsterhouse so please I want you to leave here feeling this is a great day we've achieved an awful lot for them they wanted me to admit that I had engaged in harassment and I would cease so if I had said yes I will cease then I would have been admitting to engaging in a crime that I have never committed I could not dream of harassing anyone you never met these people I never had any contact with her and I mean it's very similar to your case Richard I want to say you have an awful lot of support in Ireland and anytime I cover anything to do with you I get a great response a lot of people know your work and they're disgusted at what is being done to you and they believe your research Manchester I believe your your research in Manchester but you going to the home of somebody that is perfectly normal journalistic practice that's what the mainstream media do every day of the week this is not harassment and your name has been dragged through the mud by one person in particular who also came to Dublin to try to interrogate me Mariana spring of the BBC but she didn't succeed but you know I mean it's quite clear that this is contrived in both of our cases and you know that there's nothing organic or nothing natural about these cases there is a dark agenda here to try to silence investigate of journalism well said I agree now just you made an order you mentioned inquests on a few occasions I've tried to get inquests transcripts and although the public are allowed in to see inquests they very rarely give you a transcript unless you're a family member I tried in the Derek Bird massacre he shot 12 people allegedly and I wanted the I wanted the transcript and the judge said well you are not a proper person to have a copy of it even though it's a public supposed to be a public hearing of the inquest so they don't like to release certain transcripts of hearings I don't know why if it's a public document well I would say check the coroner it's actually I mean our most of our law comes from English law so I imagine it's the same over here I think that what they say is that it might be upsetting the certain people in that family for other people to see it even know when the inquest occurs it's a public event that you could go and see if you could write fast enough you could get your own transcript listen the public you can't get a copy of it inquests are held for and on behalf of the public yeah to a swage public concern in the event of suspicious death they are funded by the public so if they're not willing to present the findings the transcripts the photographs if necessary then they should shut them down and hold them in private and they can fund them themselves but once it is funded by the public then the documents must be released and that is every document to ensure that justice is being done okay no I wish you all the best with the two cases that you're fighting and because you know I do I do understand what you're going through and sympathize with you just let's just mention the newspaper that you currently produce Gemma now what you've been sued because of a story you printed in here yeah now why aren't they suing the newspaper why are they suing you is it because well they are actually not limited companies no they have named the newspaper to but the newspaper is me and I am the newspaper so right I see and it's the Irish light if anyone wants to how can people get copies of it Gemma Irish light paper dot com but we only post in Ireland on the island of Ireland so northern Ireland as well but we don't because it's too complicated and expensive but but we publish it online right so Irish light paper dot com they can see all of our our issues we started out it was the UK light obviously that we started out with but now we're completely independent you've gone slightly separate ways from the the UK light newspaper and yeah they did an interview with me and they didn't publish it they said they took legal advice because I was talking about the Manchester event and they didn't publish it now as far as I'm concerned they could have just said you know we don't agree or disagree with anything that Richard Hall says in this interview then published it I don't see how it would have been a legal problem but they they didn't publish my interview it's not a criticism I'm just that was the decision they made because they took legal advice so that would have been good for me to get my word out to all of the light readers in the UK but they did fail to do that well I think it's very important that you've said that and that's very very disappointing you know I have been critical of the UK light because I feel it's a very new age sort of product but more importantly they're alignment with the UK column who I have serious reservations about and I believe you know most of them seem to have backgrounds in MI5 military intelligence etc you cannot be taken seriously as a journalist if you've spent most of your career working for the secret service and that's the beginning and end of us and they promote ideas and solutions that I don't think are going to get us out of this mess such as you know vote for independence keep voting keep voting because voting has really made a difference hasn't it like voting politics is always the answer politics has destroyed our lives and right to your MP right to your MP and go to protests in the past I have advocated right into my MP I run a campaign called tell your MP about 7.7 and that was trying to get responses from MPs about the evidence of 7.7 and but since then I've not really pushed people to do that there's a handful of MPs that are of any use in the UK parliament you know Andrew Bridgian there are a few others who are highlighting the the excess deaths for example and opposing the World Health Organization pandemic treaty but there are tiny money and there's no power yes they are but you're talking a handful of people in parliament there are of any use so going to your own MP in my opinion it is a waste of time the system needs replacing which is what you and I would advocate rather than begging to the current brutal system it needs to be replaced but I think you get a column I've heard them described as they are monarchists they believe in a monarchy they don't want any republic they don't want like the monarchy torn down or anything like that they don't want a new system they just want to repair the old system they want to keep all of the institutions but just replaced with honest people that's I mean I'm paraphrasing their ideology but they believe that by putting pressure and highlighting all of the shortcomings of the political power structure that it will it will then force to be changed for the good so they're not trying to tear it down and start again they're trying to influence it through their their media program and but they would say that because they come from you know the secret servers they're state operatives so they want to keep the status quo in place yeah but the status quo is not and has not served the ordinary man in the street and they're being dishonest by suggesting that it is somehow going to be rescued it's beyond salvation I will say that they have covered my case to a degree and have said positive things well particularly about the fact that they think that my free speech has been targeted and inhibited through this case but on the other hand one thing that they haven't done is delved into any of my evidence of the Manchester case and the evidence is voluminous there's video footage there's testimony there's four films that I've produced on the case and UK column have not put out any of it right now I know that they're their strategy if you like is it's not wanting to go too far with what some people might consider the far fetch conspiracy theory but actually isn't a far fetch conspiracy theory it's the truth so to get from where they are to the absolute truth needs to go slowly in order to maintain that audience and build it because if you go there too quickly you're going to lose your audience I think that's well you see I mean I'm not on their team I don't know their philosophy but that's how what I understand it to be get to the truth slowly otherwise you're going to lose your audience because they feel that keeping a large audience is just as important as getting to the truth well it's not otherwise no one's going to be told the truth no do you see where it's not I'm not defending it I'm just I mean I I just go for the truth and I put it out whatever that is that's well philosophy and people respect you for that and that their approach is incredibly insulting to their audience many of whom are supporters of you and are wide awake to the