The Johnny Gosch Tragedy: A Story of Kidnapping and Mind Control

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Now I want to step back and take you back to what happened in Nebraska. We had the Franklin Credit Union, we had the Credit Union going down. We had people who had money invested in the Credit Union going to Senator Lawrence Smith and Lawrence Smith forming the Franklin Committee to investigate what was going on. He was investigating what happened to the money. Why did that Credit Union fail? He wasn't investigating the prostitution of children. He wasn't investigating satanic activity and so on. To what did he find? As his investigator got into it, he began to bring videotapes, tapes of children who told of the things that went on in the Franklin Credit Union itself. They have a bedroom and he said it's probably one of the few savings and loans in the country with its own bedroom. And then more and more information began to come out about Larry King, Larry Lawrence King, a black man who sang the National Anthem at the 1984 and 1988 presidential conventions. And I have a picture of him here with Maureen Reagan right next to him. Now that man brought children to the 84 convention and to the 88 convention for the purposes of prostitution. He had a big inaugural ball party in Washington DC and rented a huge house and spent millions of dollars to bring children from Nebraska there as prostitutes. And what happened when all of this came to light? The FBI stepped in and cross examined every one of the children and told them if they did not recant their testimony, they would be liable to as much as 530 years in prison for perjury. They were grilled for hour on hour. The ones who didn't recant ended up either dead or in jail. So, definitely, in my opinion, the conspiracy here. I acted sad to say that it was a conspiracy. If not a direct conspiracy, certainly a loose net conspiracy. By the mere fact that these kids, if it's true and I have a tendency to believe it is, through these kids were transported to Los Angeles where they obtained drugs, where they were involved in Richard Ceremony. They were transported to Washington DC where they claimed they were molested. And there's obviously some top political figures involved in this sort of thing. Here is a piece of information that came to me in the mail. It came from the investigation by the Franklin Committee of the Nebraska Legislature. It was verified in its authenticity by Republican Senator Lawrence Schmidt of the Unicameral of the Nebraska Legislature who verified the truth and authenticity of it. I want to give you a picture of true horror. But children were not merely abused. One victim described an incident at a farm near Elkhorn, Nebraska in 1981 or 82. Where a 10-year-old boy was repeatedly satomized and beaten by older men. He finally lay crying with blood streaming from his rectum. One of the men took up a pitchfork, playfully playing with him at first, but finally sticking one tie into him. While the boy screamed and the other men stood around and laughed, finally the whole pitchfork was stuck through him killing him. Snuff films were involved as well. Another young boy was taken by someone in the King's Circle from Nebraska to another city and forced to perform oral sex on a man. As the abuser reached orgasm, he shot the boy in the head with a pistol, all of which was filmed. Our private investigation has led us on all of these trails years ago to the Snuff films, to a lot of things. And many of our friends and associates bailed out on us because they didn't want to hear it. It was too horrible to want to be close to you to one of us. All those security blanket was rippled. And people's, I mean, even when you talk about the police, they don't want to talk about it because that upsets their security in the system. It's just like if somebody found out that a fire department wouldn't come to your house if you had a fire, same kind of deal for them. One more thing. This report states it reaches high into Republican party circles in Washington, D.C. Pedophilia owns this nation. Pedophilia is part of what we're talking about. And the hiding of the pedophiles is being done by none other than the FBI. It was sometime in August of the year of the Johnny was kidnapped when a neighbor lady saw this car, studying the neighborhood of California, plates on, taking pictures of many different things. But Johnny was on his paper out at the same time. And apparently she was shooting pictures. Or, you know, she was pointing the camera at him, whether she took the picture, now we presumed she was. And the lady called the police department about it. They never ever checked it out. Then they lost the license plate number. The lady wrote it down. For this ordeal, she didn't have a license plate number anymore either. And then roughly a month later on September 5, 1982, that's when Johnny was kidnapped on his paper out. And the people that were there that morning at the corner said that the only thing they saw in this guy's car was a brown, male, and male lane on the front seat. So there was a picture, whether it was a work order to kidnapping or whatever it was. We presented it with probably both. And at the time of the abduction, Johnny left the house, about 555 in the morning, and headed towards the paper drop area. And when he got part way there, a man in a car had pulled over and asked him for directions. And then Johnny continued on the sidewalk up to the corner where the other boys were waiting to pick up their papers. The man then took off in his car and evidently circled way around our housing block and another one to come back to the same area and pull in on 42nd Street where Johnny and another boy and a 44-year-old attorney was standing. He was picking up his son's papers. The man pulled over to the curb, opened up the door, shut off the engine, and put his feet out on the ground and began to engage all of them in conversation. Mostly it was about asking for directions. And the two witnesses had a very, very good look at the man because it was under a streetlight. And that became very valuable later because they did work with a composite artist that we hired to construct the composite drawing which the authorities now use. They don't use the one that they did. And the man was Mediterranean or Spanish, probably in his 40s, just impeccably dressed very neat. The car was very neat. The witnesses had an exact description of the car. The man spoke with a very slurred speech pattern. At that point, the lawyer left the area, taking the papers with him for his sons. And our son made the statement to the other boy. You know, this guy's weird. There's something wrong here. I'm going home. He was scared. So Johnny took off down the street to head for home which at that point he was headed north. And he had to go one block north and then turn and go another block west to get back up to our block. He got halfway down the street and the boy that was sitting at the corner who was 16 heard our dog begin to growl, who was walking along with Johnny. And at that point he looked up and he saw a very, very tall thin man. He estimated them to be probably about 8 or 10 inches taller than Johnny. Came out from between two houses and fell in behind Johnny and followed him down the street and around the corner out of sight. Then just seconds later, two other boys approached for a different area. To get their papers and they witnessed Johnny sitting on his wagon slumped over like he was sick. They didn't wave at him and continued on. Nobody suspected him pending danger. They got to the corner and at that moment they all heard the slamming of a car door and the screech of tires. And that same blue car came right through the stop sign, turned left which was north and he headed out of town. The noise awakened a boy who was living at the corner in a house in the upstairs and his bedroom window faced that street. And when he looked out, all he saw was Johnny's wagon and the car taken off. They already thrown him in the car. And with all of that evidence, we still did have difficulty getting an initial fast reaction and investigation started with the police. They wanted to tend to believe that any kid that age would run away in the face of five witnesses that each saw a part of this whole kidnapping take place. It was an incredible situation. The time frame basically was somewhere between 603 and 606 or 7 is when, apparently Johnny was abducted. We didn't find out about it until 630 or someone that area went from our neighbors called and among them where their sonny paper was. Because Johnny always delivered the papers on time. And so I got my car on the corner, found the wagon with the papers in it and paper bag and all these type of things. And came back home and I told him, I mean it says, cold place or something wrong. I can't find Johnny, but it's wagon stuff there. And why didn't you even do that instead of going around and looking all around, but I just felt something was real. Because the dog was back and that was probably surprised me. I'll miss you to answer and shit from back home. And as you Johnny was the type of kid that was very responsible, he had a perfect service award for every month that he had the newspaper. So it wouldn't be like him to abandon a whole wagon full of newspapers and go lolligag in some place. We knew our son and we knew something was wrong immediately. It took about 45 minutes for the police to come over and our house is 10 blocks from the police station. From the time I called the police until they got here, I had already called for our older son to be sent home from his place of employment because we knew that the family was going to have to pull together. I had called our daughter at college and made arrangements for her fiance to bring her right here. I had called the district manager at the newspaper and I had found out the names of all the kids that picked up papers at the corner and I had already had a phone conversation with her. And in that phone conversation they described the man the way he spoke, the car, the color of the car, what the man was wearing. Everything was very detailed because it was very fresh. And I had all that information before the police ever walked into the house. We weren't prepared for what was going to happen next and that was basically nothing. I mean it was up to John and I at that point in time to go to the press and beg for help in having the young show John is pictures so that people knew he was missing. There was not the adequate measures taken initially. The one register was very concerned about who was going to be delivering the papers like the next day. And... They told us we had to find a replacement. We had to find a replacement. Under those situations I told them where to put the papers. And the presses. In August of 1984 it was about four days before the Martin Horn was kidnapped from the plane. I was asked to fly to Washington DC and testify as Senate hearing and it was organized crime hearings and there was possible connection to kidnapped cases. I wasn't asked to come in for all of the missing children hearings which had been held earlier in the year. But they had me come for this other one which I thought was kind of strange at the time. But our private detective had been digging up a lot of information showing an overall network in the country and that Johnny was a possible victim of that network as opposed to just a random pedophile running around Des Moines. So when I presented what we had in our case the person that followed me in presenting was a member of the FBI and what they had laid on the table about this size was nothing but one publication after another after another that had all been taken from a pedophile in a raid that the FBI conducted. One of the things was a book on how to molest small children without leaving marks on them or talking toddlers. How to course or abduct a child into a car. The how to books that teach pedophiles to do this. paraphernalia that would be used in some type of sexual torture for children. And then the other interesting thing that was there on the table was a book of pictures of kids who had not yet been kidnapped. The statement was that you could order a kid out of that book. And the interesting thing is that in time to time when we do hear reports of children being photographed either on a playground or walking to and from school or just whatever. In many cases there is an abduction attempt on the same child up to three weeks a month or two months later. Anybody give any indication of how much it costs to buy one. Because what I'm saying is that this is not going to be done cheaply and it's not going to be done. You've heard estimates of about $50 to $75,000 per child depending on the features and the looks of that child, the innocence, prepubescent children. There are also instances that are documented by a number of private investigators who have researched it. But periodically, auctions take place in the United States. Different places they move around. They don't just set up shop in one spot and publish and notice that there's going to be an auction. It's done very secretively. And they might run 10 to 20 kids at a time through an auction block. And the buyers can be from foreign countries or whatever. And the child would never have a hope of ever getting back to his own country. There are internment camps run in the country where they keep these people after they get in that. And I've heard of one in Des Moines. I was a matter of fact. I know one in West Virginia. I know one in Nevada and near the Arizona border. I know of some in California and also in the state of Washington. And these are well organized. They're camps where they keep the people being cages. And I've been told that they're involved in brainwashing these particular camps. And many of the victims that are kidnapped end up in these camps. Nambla stands for North American Boy Love Association. And this was brought to our attention. It was acquired through an underground connection. And it was the date on here as June of 1983, just a few months after Johnny was taken. And on the front page of Nambla's bulletin down at the bottom, they are warning all of their members of which Iowa has many. All of their members not to, in any way, comply with the FBI and submit to any kind of questioning on the Johnny Gash case. And they were very careful to spell it out. Johnny Gash case. Then this is continued over here on page three. There's another section about Johnny Gash. Now why would a rag like this need to warn their members not to talk about our case and unless there's some connection? This is referred to Dr. Judy Ann Bansinger, who, by the way, is on the endless to the Nambla people. I am writing you at present at the request of an organization that is not interested in advancing the cause of Kitty porn for the sake of the exploitation of children. But rather for the social recognition of children's sexuality, for the acceptance of the sexual expression of adults that desire sexual relations of a loving and tender nature with children and ultimately for raising human beings without the typical sexual impediments that are so prevalent in our Judeo-Christian society. In other words, if it's good for us, it's good for the nation. Now I have actual records of a meeting of the Manboy Association of 1979. They have $620 in their bank account as of that time. By 1989 they were depositing $5 billion in the Franklin Credit Union in Nebraska. What for? To pay for children kidnapped across the country to pay for taking children out of boys town and out of girls town to be used for prostitution purposes and porn films. Now John and Nareen Gosh are well-to-new people, well-together people, and Johnny was their son-laden life. So they were able to put a great deal of resources and a great effort into putting information across the country about the kidnapping of Johnny. They said we had to sell candy and have fundraisers and so on to put out all those posters and everything that we put out across the United States. But in 1987 the word came down from on high from people who were following the Goshes and following the Gosh family. And that was you shut up right now and say no more about the North American Manboy Love Association. The threats came throughout the year of 1987 and 88. We had a lot of activity on the case. We were moving in a direction where we thought we really were going to close in on who did it part. So that became a threat to who was responsible to want to stop us. And there was harassment that went on towards us that you wouldn't believe. People would come here in the middle of the night and they would throw things at the house to wake us up and then we would see them out in the backyard. And by the time we could get outside of the police could get here, they'd be people who'd be gone. The phone call in question came shortly after John and I had made a trip out of state and it was business on Johnny's case. And we had gotten to this one state and John said, I don't feel comfortable at this hotel. I don't know why. I just don't want to stay here. So we went up to another hotel and checked in and did our business and came home. We want to go in three days. But two days later I got a call. That one came to my office where there were no taping facilities. That call came to my office and a voice said it was a male, very rough voice. And he said, you made it very difficult for us to watch you. You switched hotels on us. He then proceeded to tell us what rental car agency we used, where we went, where we ate. In other words, details enough to prove to us that somebody was looking over our shoulder. And for what reason we didn't know other than we might be hitting pay dirt, we might be getting close to something. Because that would be an indication. We've got a staff meeting. We've got to throw a beer out into them. And then over the period of months, other family members will receive threats on them. If we did not back out of certain aspects of this investigation that someone else would be hurt, where we already knew that they had access to our coming and goings, that this could be very easily done. We would come home different nights and our porch light would be out. We would always do that porch light burning. That was kind of a symbol of hope that we started in the beginning of the case. It wouldn't be burned out, it would be screwed out. Somebody would actually come up here and remove the bulb and see when we would get home, we'd think, oh, the bulb burned out. We need to replace it in the morning. John would go out there and the whole bulb was gone. I mean, insidious things were going on. We would get a phone call in the middle of the night and somebody would just do this. Just tap, they'd say nothing. Within 20 minutes, somebody would be in our backyard throwing stuff at the house, making sure that we knew they were there. The police traced the calls and they told us that every phone call came from a phone booth within a radius of our home, of a driving time for about 15, 20 minutes. And he said, Lieutenant, that was in charge of our case, said, we knew which phone booth to stake out next. We wait there for them, but they use a different one each time. This one on four months. Absolutely months. And finally, the culmination of it took place one week. John was in Denver and it happened to be in August. And it started off the beginning of the week. I came home one day in the phone ring and it was a well-known man in Des Moines who has walked both lines of the law and he's well-known. And he identified himself on the phone, taking the risk that if the phone was tapped, you know that people would recognize his name. And he said, I don't want to scare you, but someone has put out the word to make a hit on you, meaning me. And he said, whatever it is that you need, from us there's no strings attached for your protection. And I said, well, what is this about? And he said, just do not leave town. Do not go out of town for any reason. That was his warning. Well, I hung up the phone and I'm sitting here and thinking, okay, all this other stuff had been going on for months. And I'm thinking to myself, who's playing a joke on us? You know, because it was just so ridiculous. A couple minutes later, the police phone ring again, it was the police. And they said, please stay there at the house, we're coming over. They came over and they had received the same phone call from the same man, telling them that they'd better circle the wagons because something was going to happen. Something was impending. And then it was when it was at that time, I had also been filling in the police lieutenant and all of the things that have been going on for months and for rats. And they slowly had a log of it already in a progression. It was at that point, that week, that there was a much more concern shown for us and a level of cooperation that came between the police, the FBI and us for the first time on the case. I was told to just go to my office and home, not to go anywhere else at night, anywhere, nothing. So I didn't. That Thursday of that week, it was in the middle of the night, the phone rang. It was a man who said that he wanted me to get out of flight, leaving Des Moines, and he gave the flight number, fly into Kansas City on a small plane, and then take an Eastern airliner from there to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Rent a car and he told me which agency to use. Take that car and go to the holiday and he specified which one and wait to check in and wait. They named him wait to be contacted, the information about Johnny. Well, there was the invitation to go out of town that they were waiting for. And I called the police right away. I taped the court, the court of the call and I called the police right away and they said, get dressed, get ready. We're on our way. We'll get the FBI and we'll all be there. So they came and I told them to get in with the man sent and they said, we have to decide what to do. And the man had said that he had made a reservation for me on the front in my name. So we're sitting here and deliberating about what to do with the FBI. They wanted me to get on the plane and go to take the trip. And it was the police lieutenant who just sat here and just pounded the table and said, you can not send her. You have to send a policewoman dressed like her because they wanted her to take the small plane into Kansas City. He said there's a lot of ways to get to Tulsa other than using that route. But they wanted me on that small plane because it unloaded out on the tarmac. They didn't use a jet, jetway. And the police here were afraid that there might be a sniper in Kansas City waiting. And if I made it somehow miraculous, they threw Kansas City that there would be somebody waiting in Tulsa and I never come back to Des Moines again. Well, the FBI said that they couldn't make a decision locally. They would have to go back to their office and call Washington for instructions. So at that point, I said, well, did anybody bother to call the airline and find out if this turkey really did make a reservation for me? So they called the airline from here. And the reservationist said that someone had called in on the 800 number after midnight and made a reservation in my name on that flight. So then they knew this was serious. And by the time the day progressed, the flight left at 459. So they had to make some fast decisions. They finally did agree to send a police woman. But it was only after the FBI offered me money to go. They offered to pay for all of my flight, food, rental car, everything, and send a plane clothesman to stay with me at all times. And I refused. I said, no, this is what the warning was. I was here this week. I'm not going to. I was advised not to. And I'm not going to. So they sent a police woman in my place and they caught the guy who approached her and he's now serving time in the Oklahoma Penitentiary. It was a panel discussion on Satanism and pedophilia, a tough topic on Michelson in the morning. From a panelist, divulged key facts regarding the 1982 kidnapping of Paperboy Johnny Gush. Information Noreen Gush says her investigators have been secretly working on. Author John Zelinski says it involves an informant close to the case. He has identified him as Johnny Gush and said, I saw him over the years as I traveled the country. He might have accompanied the man who kidnapped Johnny Gush when he was only about 13 or 14 years old. Paul Bonacci has a photographic memory. He can remember every day, every place, every person, every scar. And he has identified Johnny Gush. He helped a kidnap him. Johnny Gush, he was only 12 or 13 at the time and he was taken along. He also identified the fact that in 1987, when this is going to be a trial, he was as Gush was threatened when they were told their children would be killed if they revealed that they thought that North American man boy love association was the kidnap ring. At that very time, Paul Bonacci was making a pornographic film with Johnny Gush who was a slave in a house of prostitution in Colorado. I'm Judy Ann Denson Gerber. I am a psychiatrist and lawyer and have been practicing since 1967. At that time, my major interest was in drug abuse and I founded the Odyssey House programs. Of course, United States, Australia, New Zealand and in Hong Kong. By 1985, however, I began to see a new phenomenon. And that phenomenon was that the patients that I was seeing, many of whom had disassociated disorders, post-traumatic stress, which I've talked about, had also multiple personality and therefore could only remember fragments of what had happened to them. But these fragments becoming out in their 30s began to remember ritualistic cultivus and to my sadness. Having been a religious major in college, I realized that there were many people who used their children in the worship of the Prince of Darkness, Satan, Lucifer, ISIS, which is an Egyptian princess of the darkness, actually married to the King of the underworld, and that we had many, many victims of this type of activity. Someone who knew that this was my field and knew that there were implications of ritual and satanic cultivus in the Nebraska-Franklin Credit Union scandal and embezzlement of funds. And that the major witness in that poor binassi happened to be a victim himself at a very early age of child molestation, had been a boy prostitute, had been in porn pictures, had also been going to his statements, participated in five cult murders, and was a multiple personality, very much like Sybil, is the one that I'm sure most people will know, we face the Veeve, that because he was a multiple personality and since I was an expert in disassociation and multiplicity, would I see him for the purposes of whether or not he was credible? When interviewing poor binassi, he definitely said that he had seen Gash, and he had seen Gash on two separate occasions in a child white slave house. He also described that Gash had an unusual birthmark. This birthmark was not part of the general information, and when he shared that with Mr. Gash and eventually with Mrs. Gash, they said they had to be their son. Now this would have been about at least four years after the initial kidnapping occurred. To me, the fact that he had seen this young man alive in a child white slave house could describe a physical aspect that was not a usual one that the parents themselves said that they believed that he had seen their son definitely deserve to be looked into. That isn't something you can just turn aside. Interestingly enough, I had a very, what I say, goose-comply kind of experience with binassi in that when we were talking about another very famous child, Eten Pyae, who is a pate to some people pronounce it, whose parents have, as the Gashers have spent endless hours searching for their lost son, and much pain. Actually I did ask, have you seen him? He said he didn't know, and he wasn't sure. Then I received a letter from him about a month later for many of his for different personalities. They write me separately. One of them said to me, Dr. Deskivari wasn't totally honest with you. I didn't tell you everything because I had seen you on December 28, 1982 at a rally at the Holiday Inn in New York. You were pointed out to me by David Thorschtatt, the head of the North American man boy, Love Association, which is called Namula, which I have the distinction and honor in my mind to be public enemy number one of. I do not agree that young boys should be aroused through erection at six months of age, or they're being diverted by their mothers, so that they learn what the quote's equipment is for and quotes. I just think that this is a travesty. We'll increase the edible conflict if this is not something mothers should do. This is not something that should happen to children when they're being diverted. Children should be loved without being sexually approached. But he said to me in 1990 that he had seen me in actually in 1982 at such and such a place at such and such a time, and had been told that I was marked to die. And therefore he was afraid of what he could have could and tell me what would happen to me. I would back and check my diary, and I was exactly where he said I was. Those are the kinds of things that convinced me that there was a great deal in what Bernasse was saying in the bréska that had to be further investigated. And that to bring him up on charges, relying for the grand jury when they haven't investigated, I'll give you a perfect example. One of the alleged perpetrators was also told by everyone that he had a large abdominal scar. It would seem to me, I don't think it could be a position, that if you're told by someone that X has a large abdominal scar and that he is a perpetrator or a pedophilia, all you have to do is look at the man's abdomen. If he does he or does he not have the scar. No one to this day has ever looked at this person's abdomen, nor has he been willing to show his abdomen. I mean if I were an innocent person accused of a heinous crime of constantly buying boy prostitutes, I'd sure as shoot be willing to show whether or not I had an appendectomy scar and abdominal scar if I didn't have one. It would only be if I had one that I would stay buttoned up. You all know what a snuff film is. Snuff film is what it implicates you. Snuff out a candle. Well you snuff out a life in this film. And Paul Warnachi has taken part in a film in which he had sex with a boy both before and after he was killed. As I got to learn, no more about Benassi and he wrote me letters and I listened to his descriptions of the rights of the different sex that he had been in of the killings, of who performed the fetal leucarist which is the actual drinking of the blood and eating or cannibalizing the child or the newborn or the abortus, my or her adult in some instances. I discovered that everything he said fit into one would say the traditional rights of the antichrist sex. He had conducted human sacrifice. He said I gave him all kinds of quizzes which if he wasn't part of the satanic circle and he hadn't achieved the various steps of Satanism he wouldn't know. I said to him did you ever eat the eyes? And he said no because my other personality Christian wouldn't let me go to the ceremony that night. Now eating the eyes means that you're high up in the hierarchy of Satanism and you pluck the eyes out of the human and eat them. We were going to discuss say communion in the Roman Catholic Church. It would be the same in Rome and in England and in France and in Australia and in China and wherever Roman Catholicism were practiced. Well the Satanists do the same thing so that when they are performing certain rights they have the dagger and it's a similar dagger throughout the world with which they do the killings. They have a community communion plate which has certain markings on it. They have the chalice, they have the stilo or stiletto with which a newborns child is punctured, hot is punctured by the mother actually of this child. That mother can be as young as 12 or 13. She's very brightening and then she draws out that blood. There is other rituals which he discussed and only certain priests, so certain levels in the hierarchy are permitted to do those rituals and he knew every single ritual correctly and who was to do them. So there was no doubt in my mind that he had intimate personal knowledge. I've talked to many many Paul Banachis who told the same basic story. People from Pennsylvania, Florida, Texas, Northern California, Southern California, Washington. And people are telling the same story throughout the United States. It used to be that the bodies were cremated. There were arrangements with general powers and the children and the rascal who were involved in this described situations in which they had a human sacrifice in the house. They hacked the body up. They stuck it in a couple of gunny sacks, plastic bags, good husky ones, and took it onto the car and took it away to the funeral parlour and cremated the whole remains. There are children who describe being trained on cats to insert a knife up the rectum of a cat and rip it open as a training to doing the same with live babies. And the woman who got on cable access television and said, the foster children, I've had in my home and she was a very brave lady and she took the worst foster children, the foster children that no one else would take. And one by one they began to tell her about being involved in these satanic things. And she said, one girl at Christmas time lay on the floor and scream for two and a half hours. She said, I can't get the sound of the babies crying out of my head. Christmas is the worst time because that's when we kill the most babies. The children I have talked to have all had to murder before the age of two. I mentioned that last week and we kind of went right on past it. That is something that is beyond anything I could comprehend. But in some way, whether with the help of an adult's hand over theirs or by having them practice, by getting them excited to be part of the adult scene, these children have never seen a normal life for goodness' sakes, they do murder. And the evil thing that happens is they really believe they want to. They want to do what the older people are doing and they're praised for that. And that becomes their goal to be like the adults. And to do these horrible things, there is a little part in them that I believe we all have. That natural good, God-given part that knows it's wrong. But in a group and in the excitement of everything, they want to do that. They enjoy the sakes. Children are capable of enjoying the sakes. That was something I didn't know. Well, you know, why would they fight against it? A child will eat a bag of candy if he give it to them. They will take part in these things willingly. When they get out and begin to talk, that's very difficult for them to realize. We didn't realize it at first. That they actually wanted to do that. And that is part of the various sophisticated brainwashing job that they do on all of these children. The part that made me believe this child's story was that when he finally said this baby, he talked about several about this particular baby had been killed, stabbed again in a different way, but stabbed. He curled up in a fetal position. He was nine years old when he was telling the story. He curled up in a fetal position and his eyes got real glazed. And he said they cooked that baby on the grill. Oh, my God. And I thought he has really flipped around. I mean, I didn't know. And he said, oh, gross. It smelled like rotten chicken or rotten deer. He then went on and told us how they would cut out the heart or they would cut off the sakes organs. They would save them in the refrigerator in the freezer. And this is a very typical thing that these kids talk about. They worship the sakes organs. I suppose they are so into themselves and it is life and nature and all of that. I don't, I don't, and it's very decadent deviant. It is nothing a Christian person would care to even hear about. So that is part of the reason I'm sure that they do that. But they, he witnessed that and they kept it for another ceremony. They were always used. These bodies one way or another. I didn't get any answers from that child about what happened to the bodies. Where did they go? Eventually, the little ones that I was talking about first talked about throwing the babies in the fire. And I asked about that. And you mean they were dead and then they threw them in the fire. And the littlest ones said no, no. Them was alive and them threw them in all like this. The most horrible story about fire that I have to tell. And this is extremely, extremely disturbing. It was a little girl. She is a teenager as she was telling me this story. And she was describing the barn where they used to go to have their meetings. And she told how they would gather outside of the barn and do their chanting. And then as they went on into the barn, they would be split into different groups. And she was never with any of her family. They all went to different places. And I asked her where she had to go. And she said, oh, I was always in a burning room. And as she went on and described the burning room, I thought, how she came out of this with any sanity at all. I don't know. She was very small, very small child. They would take young children. And I were probably talking preschoolers. I don't think that they dealt much with the older ones. And they would hang them from a laughter in this barn. And there would be as many as five to ten in a row. And they would be fully clothed, which is unusual because frequently they are all naked. The children, like this girl, were all given candles. And you can picture the ceremony as she described it. And the candles were lit one by one. Then the adults would go forward and they would pour from a cup some liquid on each of the children's clothing, which is obviously gasoline or kerosene. And then after whatever it was they had to do, they would give the signal and these others would have to go forward and set the children on fire. When they were done, they would just cut them down. The first child that this girl had to kill was a cousin. A little cousin. You know, what does that do to you? What does it do to your insides? But you couldn't object because the children that objected will kill you. Frequently she said people would come. They'd come as families like we would go to some big, festive gathering. Not knowing that their child would be sacrificed. And she would describe the screams of the parents when they realized that their child had been killed. And she talked about them being cut down and how they would draw a circle around the body. And when she first told me those things, I knew she was telling the truth. It wasn't that, but I didn't understand it. And I still can't tell you every answer, but I know that circles are important. And during these rituals, they will draw the circles or in some way they will have a circle because they believe that these demons that come can't break through the circle to harm them. She had also told about how the parents would kneel outside that circle where the child had fallen to pray to the child as what she said. I've been told by people that know a lot more than I do that the reason for all of this death and murder is because of the belief in the demons and the power that they can get from that. And these people believe that the more innocent the victim, the more horrible the death, the closer you are at the moment of death, the more magic is released and the more spiritual power they get. Are working with the North American man boy love association to market children and they're also running the drugs. There are certain life-fence and Jerry semandu which is a Garbo police department. He's certainly doing something about this. The sheriff's office in Los Angeles and the LAPD have an officer who's in charge of the mechanic crimes. Unfortunately, many of these officers do not have a real good grasp on the situation. Many times they have a tendency to believe that it's more like street gang where they write the satanic graffiti on the wall, but it's much deeper than that as you know. There are police officers. Let me stop you here. Isn't the street gang essentially just the bottom wrong delivery boys in this? Well, there's very small levels of this ritualistic activity as you are sure you're aware. Right. And we're talking oftentimes about important people, doctors, lawyers. Absolutely. It goes much further beyond the street gangs and people realize it goes up into the professional people. But the street gangs are operating with the drugs and with the child kidnapping, I believe. That's right. I just in DeMoei, I have found an area where the gangs meet underneath the bridge. And it's said on there and missing children are dead. I hope I'm going to sicken you in a minute. You may want not to watch all of this. But this is a video that comes out of the video store in Washington, Iowa and your 15 year old or your 14 year old could go and check it out because it is not a rated video. It is a documentary of a life situation or a death situation. A woman. And this is a human sacrifice. And this is part of the video called, faces of death. And I'm cutting her open. This was shown to a group of us in Nebraska, a Nebraska leadership conference. I went out there to attend this to find out what was going on. And Ely or a Kansas City homicide detective showed this. And he said, this is available in any town in America. And my first thought on seeing this was it must be a porn story. It must be a town big enough to have a pornographic video store. And that's not true. But in Ohio, you know how small is Ohio is. You know Millersburg, you know, gochien. All of these towns have it. You know, Washington. They don't have a video store in Columbus. There's no place I could look. Iowa City all over the place. It is everywhere in this country. And what's more when I step up to a store and ask if they've got it. I stopped in Millersburg at a grocery store. And they said, we don't have it. We don't stock that kind of thing. And I said, how many people are asking for it? And who is seeing this? Young people. And what is happening after they see something like this? There's every indication that the cult groups have established preschools across the country. And even overseas, I know of a preschool in Australia. And I know of some in Europe that were actually organized by Americans. And they used these preschools, number one, to recruit the children. Ages two to four to five. And also they used these children in their ritual ceremonies. Going on 22 years old, she's been in solitary confinement longer than any other woman in Nebraska history. What she did was talk to the Nebraska legislature, talk to the Franklin Committee, and tell them what had happened to her from the age of 12. The FBI warned her she'd spend a long time in prison if she didn't recant. She's a born again Christian. She's been in solitary confinement with nothing to read but her Bible. And they thought, we're going to break this lady. We're going to break this girl. And she said, not till I die, will I give up? Will I recant my story? And there are a group of people in Nebraska called the Nebraska Leadership Console. And they're working now with a petition, and I'm supposed to have a copy of that petition soon sent to me. And in that petition, they're going to ask for her unconditional release. Now, what I'm saying to you is Alicia Horns is America's youngest political prisoner. Who put her there? The FBI and others. Why? Because one of the things she said was I saw a vice president and then a president at these parties in Washington, DC. Now Judy Ann Denson Gerber confirms this. She's a friend of a president. She grew up with him and she says, I am rethinking my relationship to him because of what I now know is going on. And I was told, don't mention names. So I'm going to say to you in this state, I feel that everyone from the governor on down should be voted out of office. In the state of Nebraska, I feel the same thing. In the US Congress, I feel the same thing. On one newspaper man, not one journalist in the state, not the Cedar Rapids Gazette, not the Des Moines Register, not the Quad City Times, not the Dubuque Telegraph Arrow, all of which have run stories on me, not one of them willing to pick up the telephone and make one single telephone call to begin verifying the truth of what I'm saying. I have been dismissed out of hand. Bill Casey, publisher of the Daily I, one is so incensed by my very appearance that he goes absolutely start breathing mad. You're gone. Out of here. No, no. What brings him? You have no right in your video tape. What brings him? Do you have to kick me out when I am only seeking to give you? Most people do not fill in their newspapers. They're supporting the junction because you're going to see for giving this information. That's what the court told me. Now get out of this building. The cops are going to be here in 30 seconds. It is not the information that I am trying to give you now. It has nothing to do. I don't want to talk to you. You've been in my ass for four five years. I don't want you in here. I'm saying you have no interest in that offer. I'm going to punch you. I want to ask you this. Do you in effect? This is what I found out. I went into the Daily I went to give them the tape. You've aroused her. Turn it off by step. You're going to get it because of public building. Yes, but this is not public space. I'm not in it, Bill. I mean, the word not in. That's your space. The cops will be here in a minute. Okay. Now we can... Bill, you know this guy? We'll go up and talk to him. Do you know he's crazy? Look what you're wearing. He's crazy. Okay, you people. I'm threatening him because this guy's threatened us for five years. What have I... You have no right in our newsroom. What have I threatened? I have... Hey, you have... You have no right to be paid to somebody. If I have libeled you, then I suggest... You have no money. You're a lawyer told me you have not a set in the world. Don't bother suing him. Okay, let's go. Go. Now, why is it? You're dead a man of your supposed status. I do the same thing that Jim Lee just office does. Everybody in the state. Yeah, you open it and talk to me. You have no right in our office. You're crazy. You say that newspapers have no business listening to anything I have to say. Hey, when you come here, you talk to us for three hours. As soon as we disagree with you, you start calling us mother fucker and every other word in the world. You're the craziest guy. Yeah, I have never heard the word mother fucker or anything like that from me. Oh, I do not use the kind of language you use. That's not your land. No, I don't have to argue with you. Okay. Now, I want to say one thing. Would you dare listen to that? No. No, you want to listen to that? Yeah, give it to me. I'll listen to it. But I don't want to have to see your listen to you. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. I may owe respect to you. You have your address. You have a card to give me. This goes along with it. All right. Now, this does not come from me. Did you turn it off? And I have confirmed with Senator Lauren Schmidt of the Nebraska legislature, the truth of this matter that I give you. I now have been talking to John and Nohreen Gosh, and I will be taping John and Nohreen Gosh about the kidnapping of children, and about its association with Iowa. All right. We will listen to this and we'll send it back to you. All right. And he will send the letter saying that you have listened to it, and yes, send it back. And yet, what have I said of Bill Casey? The Bill Casey has acted inappropriately. That he has acted irresponsibly. I have not called him names. I have not made threats. And yet, you would think I was threatening to do something horrible to him. Yet, all I said is, Bill, will you give me a few minutes of your time? Will you look at this material? Will you make a phone call? Not Bill Casey? Hi, this is Sarah Langeberg and Eddie from the Daily Island. And there is a man here who is videotaping in the newsroom with that light condition. And that light condition is really important for him. I want to get a video tape right now. I have to call 911. We're just down straight. Get out of the fucking newsroom. All right. Go ahead. Do I have to cover up your fucking camera? Get out of the newsroom. You do not have my permission to be here. Just get the hell out. Get out of the newsroom. Get out of the newsroom. Get out of the newsroom. I have nothing but to say to you at all about anything on any topic ever. So get the fuck out of the newsroom right now. I'm waiting for the person who is in the newsroom. There's too way to outside, buddy. Go on out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Not John Robertson of the Cedar Rapids Gazette, not the publisher of the Des Moines Register. No, no, no. I'm not going to touch. 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