Part 4 Red Ice Radio The Assassination of Olof Palme

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When the dying part is acting like a simple child, I have feelings for you with you. I want to know why I am here. Can anyone know that? We come yourself, let God and the devil know best. Don't you know? Don't you understand? We come. Can you find the force that will enable you to quite opposite lives when we live together? We must have. At any moment, the wolf can be mild and loud. And you must learn what it means to be comfortable. We have to live like this. And that's why I'm here. And welcome back everybody. This is Henrik. I'm happy to have you with us once again. If you've been listening since the beginning of this year, you know that we've been doing a series with Ule Damagor. The first three programs, please stop this one right now. And then go to redisecrations.com, click into our radio archive, scroll down to January 2013 and listen to the series from the beginning. It will be worth it. Trust me. We've done one program every month so far. And in those six hours, you'll get the entire background story, both on Ule his work and the various theories that we've been going through so far. We'll do a brief summary right here in the beginning and then we'll dive right into the deep end of the pool. Alright, Ty, well come back. This has been such an exciting and of course, knowledgeable series so far. And I'm really looking forward to this part four or last part in this series. And I know that there are many others as well who are eager to hear. You know, your final thoughts, if you will, an ideas and what you've pulled together for this last one. So I'm certainly looking forward to it. Welcome back. Hello. Good to talk to you again. Thank you so much, Henrik. It's been a pleasure. Excellent. Oh, you're back to your back. Definitely everything okay with you today. Yeah, very blessed. Thank you. Excellent. Now, where would you like to begin for this last part? We have we have some shockers and some lot of stuff to get to, of course, in this in this part that's going to tie a lot of this together. Where do you think we should begin, Ule this time? I just wanted to say that during these, I don't know if it's six, seven hours I've been here on Red Ice Radio. I hope that I build a foundation for my credibility since what I will present today is quite mind blowing to say the least. And once again, there's no harm meant to anyone. This is just my utmost intention is to connect all the dots in the best possible way to, to be able to solve this mystery once and for. And I know that what I'm going to say today is going to be difficult for many people to believe, but please hear me out first and then you can make up your own mind. What I would like to is to start with to just look back and see what we're going through just a quick overview of what we've been going through these first three parts. And listeners who have been following, they might remember that when all of Palmer was assassinated this late evening in February 1986. Right away, there were so many strange things happening. There were delayed alerts to the radio, to the police cars. The whole chase of the assassin was delayed with hours and hours. There were thousands and thousands of very strange circumstances pointing to right wing elements within the police and as well as the police investigation. There's also very strange relationships between the people who have been accused of being part of the assassination and people in the investigation itself, where they turn up as friends and partners of the same shooting clubs and so on. It's also there's several totally innocent patsys that have been accused of this and some has died and there are strange circumstances. At least one of them have been murdered, the so-called 33-year-old who was shot dead in the States and also the favorite patsy of the mole for most people, Klee's the patson, who died on the very strange circumstances. He was found outside the hospital with his skull cracked in a way that looks very much like he somebody had hit him with something very hard in the head. But this was like so many other things, just dismissed as an accident. We have strange policemen popping up in different roles, often in different parts of the whole conspiracy, taking different parts in different well-enined odd places as well. Then we have the Palmer family, there's so many questions around this family, around the least of the Palmer, the wife of the all of Palmer that is said to have been shot at as well, where the coat that is claimed that she had on when she was shot and has also been presented as evidence with bullet holes and so on, is not the same coat that she had on when she was there was a photo taken. When she was rushing into the hospital, meaning that it was not the same coat, also the bullets that were found on the side of the assassination were found in very strange locations and totally pristine, no damage to the mollus. There's also strange things around Morten Palmer, the son that they went to the cinema because the time doesn't fit in when he was when it said that the least but Palmer called him from the hospital home at that time he was somewhere else, he was in, he was already in their apartment in Gamma Storn where he had officially nothing to do there. But he claims that he went there because when he was called he thought that and he was told that he's that had been shot, he thought that they had driven him home to the apartment instead of taking him to the hospital, that is his explanation. But the times don't fit in like many other times in the whole thing that the times doesn't just doesn't fit fit together. We have the autopsy where there's absolutely no photos. It was released after heavy pressure from private investigators for over I think eight years and when it was finally released it was heavily censored as more or less half of it is just covered with black ink. There's a death certificate where the address of the prime minister is an address that doesn't even exist. There's lots of documents and evidence that has been manipulated and tampered with the tape recordings from during the night the radio communication between the ambulances and the police cars and so on. Lots of it have been cut to pieces and put together again and then discovered and burnt again and tampered with the use they put in some calls that were very clearly fake that put in mixed in with the other ones just making it all massive, big mess all of it. We have strange suicides, we have murders, quite a few murders of people involved also some witnesses, there are some people who have known things and so on that have been involved in very strange accidents and like I said suicide and so on. There are also connections to everything from pedophile gangs to the buffot's harvester, the big scandal with arms factory in Sweden where there's been lots of illegal weapons being transported from Sweden in and out of different countries going to war countries involved in war. Also with strong connections to the Iran contrast scandal we have even connections way back to the JFK assassination where people that were involved there in like I told in the last chapter about the operation 40 people that were part of the assassination team in Dallas were actually more or less indirectly part one of them part in the assassination in the US. We have had a lot of experience in the assassination in Stockholm so many years later and this small group of professional assassins had turned up in so many of the big conspiracies around the world over the years everything from the assassination of John Lennon, Chigavada, the overthrow of Aliander and the murder of him as well. Well there's so many of them then we have the strange location of the assassination as well there was right outside the scandia building scandia is an insurance company but at the same time it was the cover for the stay behind headquarters for many years where all of parliament was involved in building it up over several years. And stay behind for those people who don't know it is a ghost army built up by NATO consisting of for instance Sweden it's all the all the countries that are part of NATO part of joining NATO is to build up their own ghost army of consisting of a small cells of eight to ten people with radio communication arms, arms, fuel, all of these things, they're both buried everywhere so that these countries would be prepared should an invasion come from the east that was when it was built up to start with before or just after the second world war. And by the way I mean just to mention that as well Sweden has has not been a member officially of NATO but that's obviously laughable and of course there's been NATO activity in this country for many years so. Very very good point you made there and that is why they had to do it differently in Sweden and the former chief of CIA Bill Colby, William Colby he was the one before he became so high up in CIA but he was sent to Sweden to build it up together with all of parliament other people. Yeah but exactly like you say it's a scandal I must say a scandal that Sweden is part of this since they have never been officially part of NATO. Then we have also since I'm going to come into this area we have had some strange sex scandals surrounding the Swedish top layer of politicians and so on we got the I don't know what you would call that Budell Harrand the Brussels scandal. Yeah the the Jair affair like the Lena Jair was one of the big guys involved in that yeah that's what we have we have a couple of articles actually about that on the website and I'm going to link up the people can read more about but it's definitely a you know it's it's in regards to sex with underaged children that they had at the at this Bordello and a lot of these high profiles with the politicians and people within police etc were visiting this in the recent why it got investigated. It's because it was a potential you know security breach basically because these people you know they they talk and everything and there was a you know a potential or is this a KGB kind of run operation is it CIA what is it you know so that's why that what it was investigated and looked into I believe. Yeah and this is it's coming forward now more and more in different countries now with a big scandal in England and so on it seems like most western countries where western European countries have had similar network. Where people on a on a high political level and other entertainments as well have been taking part of these that's been part of the sort of part of the good thing with being on that level in their point of view is to take part of these sex parties and being having free access to kids and underage. And prostitutes and whatever whatever. Then after the assassination to start with it seemed like everything was working out the way it should that the Swedish police involved were totally honest and that it was a long crazy guy that had committed it. But then the longer it went the more more question mark started popping up and over the years they these have mounted up to thousands and thousands of very very strange circumstances that these pieces of this massive jigsaw possible they do not fit together because you always end up with a big question mark. But what I'm going to present today is in my opinion a way that can will connect all these thoughts and suddenly they will make sense. Also after all of parliament was assassinated there's been quite a few people in a high position that have been saying very odd things like for instance Hans on me who was the chief investigator. He said very early in August just six months after the assassination he said that if the real truth of the assassination would be would ever be revealed it would shake Sweden in its foundation. Yeah. What does a statement like that say for one thing it says that he knows the truth. And he's come sealing it. The second is that he's concealing it and the third is that the truth is so way it's so shocking that how can it shake a country in its foundation it must be something massive not like an alcoholic that just went up and shot him not like a small group of right wing police men that did sort of like a small coup d'état and shot the prime minister it must be something way way bigger and therefore also something that should be covered up by any any means and at any price which is also what we have seen the cover up from the official point of view have been absolutely massive over the years they spent I think it's over one billion Swedish crown and now for the so-called investigation and all of these things people that the Swedish taxpayers have had to pay so it's it is a massive scandal then there's another there's a policeman in an interview and he just sort of coincidentally said well all of Parmes shouldn't have died that day. Okay it's a bit odd then you have the ambassador called the boom which is one of the key people in this whole cover up an assassination if you ask me which I will come to more later his name was called the boom he said the best thing for everyone involved is that the truth has never known once again to say thing like that you need to know the truth and you need to know what the truth is. So that you can come up with a thing like this and was this is in interviews or papers he was quoted saying this yeah and he was also as far as I remember he was quoted to a paper but also at a dinner party. Oh okay. Yeah because if it's in a paper it's just amazing that there's no follow up question to that by the journalists. What do you mean explain that please. Yeah but this is this happens again and again that something is revealed and then there's no follow up question it because the obvious question is like what the hell do you mean. Yeah what do you know but there's nothing. Yeah amazing. Okay then one of Parmes near associates he said in a TV interview when he was talking about something else he said that while we were preparing for the funeral we weren't even certain that he was dead. Once again like what did he say you know and this was the funeral were arranged for people statements from all over the world there were hundreds of them I mean we're talking about a massive funeral with all of these guests everywhere and then they're not even sure if he's dead. Then you got on this firm who was a close associate to all of parliament during many years he said also the Swedish people are not ready to hear the truth this was in 2004 I think I have no doubt about the killer's identity but maybe I shouldn't mention his name. If he had thought it would be Christopher Petsson he would have used the trumpet to blow it out you know it's like. Sure. So what are we looking at here you know and also it's very strange because officially all of parliament is one of the most famous Swedes ever you know you got get a garb and rock set and so on but all of parliament somebody everybody knows right. Why are then you know museums why are there no statues why are there no nothing you know just a couple of streets as far as I know are named after him. There are yeah it's one tiny little one but if you go abroad there's lots more you know the big big classes there's buildings museums all of these things but in Sweden no. And every time you start digging into what seems to be the truth or you go around the official version and you start looking for what actually happened you are met by this massive machine that is just saying no no no it's like you're up against the wall. And if you keep pushing you will end up either with your reputation totally devastated or like some people have even ended up dead yeah the careers have been destroyed. So so there is something that is very very important to hide and it's the secret is very very big and so this is the stage is set now. So what do we what do we go from here let's let's get to the big theory and let's let's get it out there and if you need to preface this a little bit of course you can you can do that if you want to. You know talk about the circumstances or you know we've talked about the doctor before and some of that stuff as well and maybe if there's a you know sickness is tied to this and whatnot but yeah let's try to let's get to it. Okay. The thing is that to understand this is that you also have to understand that in my opinion and many other investigators as well it's like when you look into the life of a world of Palmer you soon start to see that he was playing at least a double role. One was that he was out was the protector of the weak and poor you know taking taking countries like weak countries like Cuba and and Nicaragua and all of these countries under his wings standing up against the big evil the USA but at the same time he was a member of the banking elite the global elite he was a builder bug member and he was also a member of the committee of 300 which was which is a very very strong. More or less secret order that works on bringing together all the banking system into one now when you said as well as you found any other external evidence beyond john Coleman's work to confirm the committee of 300 have you done that in your work. No there's there's very many investigators who have looked into it I have not I have just been when you start looking at the members in this group it's really mind boggling and I think when you see like you you got David Rockefeller you got so many royalties you you had all of Palmer as well and one of the latest members is the final day like he I was actually part of the assassination. If you go back a few chapters and when we listen to it he was the he was called the what you call in English. 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That is what it shows when you look from the outside. He was doing something on stage to take care of, to be a social democrat and to work for justice and at the same time behind the scene he was working for this elite group. He's a manufactured hero. He's a creation for the masses basically to project everything on as the savior in a way. I think if you look at Obama, you got a similar thing there. And quite a few, I must say, of politicians, if many, many in high positions today are connected to these groups, not officially. They're standing there on stage saying all of these beautiful things that people want to hear. But when you look into it, they are members of the Bilderberg Group or the Council of Foreign Relations or the Committee of 300 or the Tri-Lasero Commission and so on. And if they are part of that, these are people you I would not advise to trust because when you look at the agenda, something totally different than the official story is going on. Well, this is, I mean, this is, I want to break from the flow here, Oula, but this is commonplace. I don't understand how people can't see this when it comes to politicians. They're there to satisfy the need to get people to just hear what they want to hear. And all these across the spectrum, you know, from conservatives to socialists and what have you. They're all very, very naive. That doesn't understand how this game is being played and how mankind is being used for this purpose. So I don't get it, but there you have it. No, but Henley gets, it's thanks to programs like like this and people investigating journalists who have not given up and and people like myself who have just spent so many, so many, many years of digging into these things that this is coming up to the surface because it's not long ago that this was absolutely on her. Nobody had heard of it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like David, I just feel, I think he filled the stadium, what do you call it, the big stadium in London. Wembley? The Wembley stadium, at least part of it. But when I met him the first time in the late 80s, there was like 82 people. Yeah. Yeah. So people have really starting waiting, getting up to it. And also through the internet, people are, they are waking and go so fast. And also that I think that's why they're speeding it up with all these false flag operations. Now, the latest one with the Boston thing, I mean, it's just, yeah, one again. Yeah. It's so poorly done. And they even now they even use actors, you know, and they use the same, they haven't got even got the imagination to use different actors, but they use the same actors in, and it's a happy hook and the bad man and it's sort of like very not professional. And it's a slide of hand as well. It's a diversion where a lot of other things are going on at the same time, both below the beneath the surface, but also even now in the open really with, you know, cis-byes being pushed in. And it's an opportunity to basically, you know, have a big event wherever where his attention is focused on. And that's why it's important to also look around and see what's going on in the rest of the world as these, you know, fake events are all over the mainstream. Yeah. I think what you're saying now is so, so important and so true. It's like with a magician, you know, he does something with his left hand, but the hand you should check out is the right. You know, everybody's looking at the hand where you think it's happening, but it's, it's actually somewhere else. And it's especially like when a bomb goes off, everybody looks that way, what happened the other way, you know, or just looking in the newspapers, look at something like this happens. Boom. Everybody starts writing about this or, or Bill Clinton getting a blowjob, or whatever, but it distracts attention away from what, and it's so purposely made to divert the attention so that people will not see what was actually happening. Yeah. So, well, there you go. You're right. You're right. All right. So back to parliament. The thing is he was killed in late February 1986, but already in about six, seven months before that, he started acting very, very strangely. His colleagues and friends and so on said that he started become very distracted. It was like he lost his, his interest in politics. He wasn't really there when they had meetings. He was quite rude and sometimes his, his temper went up and down and, and so on. And what I believe happened that in late 1985, or around there, you also have to see the other players around this. One of them were at the call zone, which was a, he was a book publisher, officially, but there's a lot that points to him being one of the highest one up in the Swedish state behind movement directly under the control of the headquarters in Brussels. Because this guy, because on he could, he could get prime ministers out of their bed at night and get them to do stuff. And when everybody, when he came in, everybody went into attention, he was a close friend, a friend of all of parliament, and he was seen in his office, you know, lying in his sofa, they were having a good time. And also, quite a few times, at the call zone and all of parliament were traveling together. And most of the time they shared hotel room, which is a bit odd when you think of it. Because at the call zone was an open homeoseccio. And later died of AIDS. Another one of these people that are very much involved in this is Hans Olmir, which was a very close friend to the call zone. And these two worked together for many years. They were doing Hans Olmir used to be the chief of the Swedish security police Seppor. And he used a epicolson in many different, when there were scandals around, or when, for instance, there was a big scandal about that people working at a hospital in Gothenburg had been under surveillance and their political views had been registered and so on. The people going down there and clearing everything, clearing out the mess was epicolson and Hans Olmir. Also, when many of these parties were arranged, it was epicolson who arranged them. And in my opinion, what they did was just like with J. A. Gahubur, they were collecting evidence against people who went to these parties so that they could blackmail them afterwards. I think that is one of the reasons also why this blackout and cover-up and total silence that are still there to this very day is because people who are in a position where they could make a difference if they spoke out know that these people, that their evidence against them, they got them by the polls. And because of that, they just, they don't know the details of the conspiracy itself, but they do know that if they say anything, boom, they will go down. Yeah. And Hans Olmir, according to people in the Swedish soap as well, I've learned afterwards he later died of a disease that was closely related to AIDS. The word AIDS was not mentioned, but it was something that had to do with the immune system, what do you call it, deficiency of the immune system, which is in a, I think, a nicely way put something could that could have to do with HIV AIDS. So these people, and Hans Olmir was also said to be bisexual. So we're talking about two people arranging or being part of these sex parties, both of them dying of AIDS or something related to a similar type of thing. I'm speculating now, but hear me out, okay? Yeah. We also have another key person who was this ambassador called Leedbom. He was the advisor of all of parliament for quite a few years and also the follower, his follower, Ingmar Carlson. And this man was a very manipulative person, very, very highly intelligent, but also involved around this conspiracy in many different roles. He popped up in so many different aspects around this. And I don't know if you've seen, have you seen this comedy it called Yes, Mr. Prime Minister? Actually, I've never seen that. No, but I've heard about it. Okay, I think that is quite spot on when it comes to this one. You got this very clever advisor to a Prime Minister that was doing the talking and doing the being the front figure, but a lot of the thinking was done by the other guy. And this is I think what was the part of Carl Leedbom. The Gremau Wormtong as they call him, the character in Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, if we go back to 1986 when this happened, it was a disease that was, it was had just come forward and there was a massive fear around it. There was this scandal that it was only homosexuals that lived a very so-called dirty life, you know, with lots of sexual partners. There was so much shame around this disease. And Rock Hudson had just become the first celebrity that had come forward saying officially that he had this disease. And it was a big scandal all over the world. So it was something that you wanted to avoid as much as you could. What I think happened was that in one of these discrete sex parties where Palmer was invited to, somehow he as well got infected with this dreaded disease. I built this on quite a few, he was, he had a disease, a virus disease that he was going to get treated. He was going to a regular treatment for that. Also, the doctor that treated him, when asked about this, he avoided answering. The question wasn't directly about AIDS, but it was towards going that way. And he avoided, but in a very strange way, he avoided answering it. And then he died just a few weeks later, this doctor. But he confirmed that Palmer went there to get all of these treatments for this thing. Also, I just wanted to go back to that one time in all of Palmer went on a tour in Norway. And when he was at the hotel, he was robbed by two prostitutes. This was never published, I think, in Swedish newspaper, but it was a big deal in Norway. He was robbed by two prostitutes. I think they took his clothes, as far as I know, they took his pants and his wallet. So he had a bit of a problem getting back to Sweden. But the thing was that these two prostitutes, according to Dawgens Newhittis journalist Ullal Singh, were male prostitutes. So here we are again pointing towards that Olof Parliament was bisexual as well. Yeah. Okay, so to make all of these things make sense, here is what I would like to suggest. I think that in somewhere in the fall of 1985, things were, it has started to go down a bit for the social democrats in Sweden anyway. And his career was going a little downhill. At the same time, he was also being attacked with different scandals, attack scandals and so on and was losing followers. And he was not in a good space. When he was suddenly hit by the worst news of his life, that he had gotten infected by HIV as well. Yeah. So suddenly, the social democrat party and Olof Parliament is in a situation where within a few months, this disease will start showing itself. I mean, you've seen people with this dreaded disease. You see it in their face. It's a, people get really skinny and you can spot it right away. So suddenly, they are in this very, very difficult situation. There are two options. There's one option is to go out openly with it that Olof Parliament, yes, bisexual, yes, he's got AIDS, yes, he's dying and so on. This would totally destroy his whole, all the life work, whatever you call it, the everything he had worked for. It would also destroy the social democrat party. That would just go downhill because this would, there was just too much shame connected with this disease that it would just, this could destroy the social democrat party and so on. So in this difficult situation, Colleibum, his advisor, came up with a plan. Forget about option one. Let's not talk about this openly at all. Instead, what we could do if we set up an assassination, he looked at the Kennedy assassination, seeing that as soon as the shots were fired and Kennedy died, he got injured wings. From just being an ordinary president, he became a legend. He became the hero. He became, well, somebody untouchable. You could never say anything bad about Kennedy and so on. So he said, listen, if we do it like this, if we arrange a hit on you, not a real one, but a fake assassination where you will be murdered by a lone assassin. At that very second, you die there. You will turn into a legend. Everything you have worked for, everything you have lived for, your name will forever be surrounded with glory and illuminated and everything. So the two options are total shame and destruction or a fake assassination. And as far as I understood, it took a while for all of the farmers to accept this, but when he talked it through with his family and so on, the option was quite clear that the fake one would be the way to go. So what they did, sorry? Yeah, we just want to say as well, and what people need to keep in mind, I think is that there is a whole massive propaganda machine behind the social democratic party at this stage as well. I mean, this is a country, or this is a, you know, all the country as well, but this is a a party that has held the country in its iron grips. It's basically the dawn of the political system came to Sweden for Christ's sake. They've been like, it's one of the longest, you know, ruling parties. I think in the world, actually, it's been with brief interludes. They've been out of power, but it's a massive propaganda machine. I know, obviously, Ula, they won't, they're not going to let their control go this easy. They're going to try to use this to their advantage, just as you're saying here. Is it your arguing for once again, Henry spot on. I told you, we're doing it. And so what they came up with, they came up with a plan where it was extremely important that this truth would never come out. So what they needed to was to hire real assassins that thought that they were actually killing him, because if they had their own faked assassination team, it would come out, you know, they would be able, people would be able to track them down, and then it would point right at all of Parma and the center of power here. So what they needed was to hire a team that would do it, but with fake ammo, not the team would not know it. So all of Parma put together a he and Colled Boom called in Hans Holmeer, which they had this mentioning before. He was the former chief of the security police in Sweden, together with Abekolz. So these four were put together and they worked out a plan on how to do this. So the plan was that the task to do this assassination was sent to the South African Colonel Craig Williamson, who was not aware of that it came from all of Parma himself. He thought that it was a hit and a real one. A real one for sure, for sure. But in this pyramid of power, the order comes down from the top of the pyramid many times, and the people who receive the orders have often no idea who is the real person behind it. They just receive the order, they receive the funds and the instructions and that is. And since their military and military intelligence and so on, they just follow orders. So I think that I dare almost say that through the banker Peter Valenberg, who was earlier sitting located in South Africa for many years, the order went through him to Craig Williamson. This I'm not sure about, but this is what I think. Anyway, so Craig Williamson, he had a head, his headquarters was just outside Johannesburg at a little farm called Daisy farm, where they for during two or three months, they prepared this whole assassination and he put together a team of assassin from different countries. Like I mentioned before, he had his own people like Anthony White, the radiation elite soldier. He had Ligant Standard, which was a colleague of his from Daisy farm, involved in with boss, the South African secret police and so on. Very violent people. There was another one he used as a Norwegian mercenary called Uliklister in Ulstod. He also used a West German man who you worked for boss as well. His name was Francis, he was one of the drivers. There was another West German guy called Haiener Hiemann, who was based in Sweden as a silent or sleeping agent. He was located in Embjörklinger, not far from Uppsala, where he was officially a car mechanic. But it was his house, Embjörklinger that was later used as a hideout for the shooter after the days after the shooting and then before he was taken out with diplomatic papers on an airplane flown to London first and then Turkey afterwards. You had Michael Townli, the Michael Dahn on a townally, who was, he was directly connected with Operation 40 that I mentioned before, which was directly involved in the JFK assassination. And under his control in that group was also Roberto Tiemme and Julio Esquierdo, the last one was a Baskin Spanish guy and Julio Roberto Tiemme was Argentinian. These people are still around. Then you have Stefano della Chiai, who was one of Michael Townli's best friends and who was this king of reign, this man who also used to work with Klaus Barbier, you know the Nazi? Yeah, the monster from Leon. And yeah, they're involved with extreme Nazis and these people have been used by Franco and other dictators, been sent right-left and center, killing people in South Africa, Argentina, all the South American countries and Dan Hitz and Washington and Europe and so on. Then also you have the guy who did the shooting himself, who was a Kurdish Turk, a Turk from Kurdistan, who used to work for the Iranian and the secret police and he was educated there or did his military career there to start with. And then after that he's been used as a professional assassin. I'm not sure if I forgot anyone, but then it's a good gang there anyway. Anyway, so Craig Williamson put this hit team together. And the whole thing was that it was made up with one spider in the whole web and his name was Karl Gustav Ostling. He was a right-wing Nazi, right-wing policeman who used to be part of the baseball gang in Stockholm, a very, very violent gang that was initiated by Hans Vermeer, surprise, surprise, some years before the assassination and their task was to clear the streets of what they call scum, beat the shit out of people, drug addicts and whoever didn't fit in, just beat them and they even managed to kill at least one person in a subway station. Let me ask you this before we continue here. If this also is a, if this is partially something that's created, well, I know we talk about the double agent thing as well, but on top of this there is the whole political game going as well. So do you think that they wanted also to make this look if for those, let's say, few journalists or, you know, obviously this is many at the time and they know that there will be investigations surrounding this case. No matter what we do, there'll be tons of people asking questions and they want to know what's going on and all this. So my question, too, is do you think that they also wanted to make this look then, like there is a really powerful right-wing network working behind the scenes, partially responsible or solely responsible for the assassination since this is also at the same time we're talking about the you know, the image, if you will, of a really powerful social democratic hero that they're trying to create here. What do you think, Ula? I'm not really sure I understood the question. All right, let me see if I can simplify it. Do you think that they want this to look also in the, for those few journalists that look into this case and realize soon enough that, yep, completely right, there's a right-wing network behind the assassination. But what I'm getting at, do you also think that they're, they consciously chose these people to be part of the operation because they wanted to look like it's a right-wing network behind the assassination. Do you see what I'm saying? Because there is a... I see what you're saying, but I don't think that at all. Because I think the reason they use these people are, because these are the people violent enough and disciplined enough and good enough and experience to do these type of things. They, they tried to do everything to avoid that this should come out in the open. Yep, yep, sure. I got you. Okay, so what we got now is like what a sling, called Gustav Usling, this right-wing policeman. He was also very, very high up and, and involved as far as I know, in state behind as well. Because he was also the weapons expert for the Swedish, the whole Swedish police force. He was helping to pick out what gun the Swedish police force should use and so on. And his, his task in all of this was to play a double agent. He was the one that should welcome and put together the welcome, the assassination, and help them get in position and everything and with all the logistics, with weapons, housing, all of these things. That he was his, his task with his right-wing police colleagues and so on to take part of that. But also he was the only one that knew that the ammunition supplied would not be real. So he, he supplied the weapons, he supplied all of these things and when they practice, they practice with real guns or real ammo. But for the actual hit, the ammo was super, was exchanged by blanks. Or like paintball type of things. That was the plan. Okay, so now we have a, a hit team put together. And if I can call them, if I can call that plan A, that this group is killing all of parliament on his own orders, that is plan A. Because soon we will have to look at plan B as well, because there's, there's even one more layer to this, this whole conspiracy. Anyway, so plan A, joined in Sweden, they meet up in Sweden. Craig Williamson meets the Norwegian Mosinery in a restaurant in Stockholm and they exchange money and stuff like that. There are three people together with Craig Williamson, up flown out from South Africa, with Luxair to Luxembourg. In Luxembourg they're met by France Esther in a, in a Winnebago type of car, driven up through Germany and then they go in to Sweden through Denmark and Helsingborg, Helsingor, that way over across. They, they come into Sweden and they stay to start with, they more or less camp even though it is in the middle of the winter. But in, in small little houses and, and so on, not to attract any attention. Later they were moved into Stockholm and then moved around in small hotels and apartments and so on. So the other ones are flown in afterwards from different, like Stefano della Chiai, he was flown in under the name of Handlein Berlir in a private plane. And like I say, Hannah Heumann was already there and so on. And they were met up and helped by most of the people involved in this baseball gang, who was a, was a small group, there were only about eight or ten of them, but very, very, very disciplined, very hard, violent people who helped to assist them with everything needed. These people are also the ones that pops up like Grewokey Talkumann and so on later in the assassination itself. They are in all the key positions there, in the communication center where the alarm goes, they're the ones that laying everything, they want people driving the ambulance delaying that. They're, they're the first police cars coming to the assassination site. They're the ones running after the murder, they're, they are part of the cars stopping and stopping normal people from getting involved and so on. And later also people from the same baseball gang are Han Somers bodyguards. So here we have, once again, very strange that people who are being pointed out as being part of the assassination also pops up as part of the investigation. Because they weren't the polymer room where, where these things were discussed and so on. A sling that was pointed out as being a key person or all this. He was sitting in the polymer room next to Han Somer many times also. Anyway, so we have plan B, plan A, sorry, the people are now in place in Stockholm around there and they start for like six weeks, they keep all of polymer on the surveillance. Having no idea that he's aware of them, you have all these observations of people with walking talkies and so on that starts popping up around, polymers where he lives around the social democrats headquarters around the parliament and so on. So during these weeks, they are trying to make a clear picture of where to hit him the best place. And I wanted to ask you as well, we might get there of course if you're trying to walk us through how the event took place or the assassination took place, the fake one obviously. But I remember we way back in our series probably in the first couple of shows we did there, Ula, we talked about some of the strange bullets that were found at the crime scenes and we wanted to get to some of the potential planted evidence and stuff like that. Or are we getting there in the chronology if you will? We are getting the bullets. No worries, take your time. No, also, in the meantime, while this is happening, Ula of Palmy himself, he knows that he's only got like a few months left to live officially. The plan is that when this fake assassination he would be taken out with an ambulance driven out to an airport and then flown out out of Sweden while a double has been shot and taken to the hospital. He is flown secretly, flown out and then the plan is for him to spend the last time of his life in one of the big castles owned by the elite. I think most probably in Switzerland or France at least to start with, that was the plan. A small, what do you call it, the operation, facial operation and so on. And then the best treatment possible for his deceased and so on. That was the whole thing that he could live the rest of his life in luxury and quiet and peace and that his family could come from Sweden and visit him and so on. And during the last few months, what he is totally focused on is to clear his name so that once he's dead, no one will be able to dig up any dirt that could be traced back to him and that also could unravel this whole scandal. So this is when he starts getting really not interested in all of these meetings that his colleagues say he was just sitting staring out of the window when Shelula felt the Minister of Finance was talking to him. He was totally not there. He was playing the flute and just saying, you get on with it, I don't care. Yeah, remember I told you about that scene when this is a testimony by the financial minister, what if you want to call him at the time, he talks just about this in terms of one of the biggest overhalls of the banking system, the economy in Sweden at the time. And this is of course how the government with the aid of the central bank managed to crash the whole Swedish economy to use it in consequent ways of getting wealth out from the people and all that. But nonetheless, this champion of the people, the social democratic highest hand in the handhouse here is doing nothing about this. Why is this? It's so strange. His behavior is very odd. Exactly. He's not there. He's not interested at all because he knows he's already moving on. But what he does is I think he's, there's a lot of evidence shredded, you know, lots of the papers being destroyed and so on. And also he starts cancelling illegal arms deals, illegal arms transport, which is really pissing a lot of people off because suddenly this whole system of illegal arms that are being transported left right and centre, he stops it, he stops several of these transports, deliveries of gunpowder and missiles and so on. And the elite that he used to be loyal to are sitting like what is going on with this guy, what is happening? They don't know the truth about his behavior. They just start seeing this guy is not reliable anymore, you know, what is going on? And he keeps doing that in many different areas also as far as he gives away sweetness right to the North Sea oil, he deals with Rajiv Gandhi which is and make one of the biggest arms deals in Swedish history. But there's many different big questions marks around this whole thing. As you remember, Rajiv Gandhi also got murdered later on. Like most people who are involved in around these big conspiracies, they have a bad habit of dying young. Yeah. Anyway, so the banking elite and NATO are getting very worried, especially since also he's planning to do a trip to Moscow to meet Gorbachev and lots of people, especially militarians and right-wing people are very worried that since he behaves so strangely, he will become a traitor, he will give away Sweden to the Russians. Sure, we'll merge into the Soviet Union, no problem. Do whatever you want. And one of the things he signs in order saying that this should Sweden be invaded, the Swedish police and no, the Swedish military have to stand down and sort of become loyal to the invaders. Does he have this much power? That's ridiculous. Is this true? And really, you know, people got so, so upset. So what happened was that there was a meeting, a secret meeting in Wilshire in England where the top of NATO and many people from stay behind bankers, politicians and so on, met up there. And the thing was, what they were discussing was like, we have to stop this guy. He's maddened. We can't trust him anymore. So what they come up with is a plan to make an assassination on him, you know, to assassinate him. So now we have two plans, plan A, which is parliament's own assassination and plan B, which is ordered by NATO. There have been documents leaking out from this meeting and so on, showing exactly what was decided and so on. That they wanted to get rid of him. And plan B, the NATO part, at this point, have decided to eliminate him as well. But while they do this, while they start planning it, they discover, I'm not sure how they got hold of information, but they find out that there's plan A is actually already there, staging this killing. So what they do, plan B decides to, let's be on standby, let's hide in the shadow, so to speak, let plan A do the assassination, and they can take the blame, should they fail, we go in and finish the job and then blame it on plan A anyway, which is a perfect plan for them. They get rid of him and they're not involved. So now suddenly there are two teams that are after the same victim. Okay, so I hope it's not too confusing. No, I know, definitely not. I think I think, Ula, what we're going to do here is it's a good opportunity and good to take a little pause there between the segments at this point. And basically all I want to do is I want to push your pause button pretty much here. We'll give out your website some more details about the book, of course, which is the main focus around what everything we've been talking about here. You've done tremendous research, 800 plus pages, of course, full of all the stuff that we've been talking about, about these networks, about the people involved and everything else. So let's do that. And of course, and we'll just pick up right after the break. But is there anything else you'd like to leave us with Ula in terms of something on your website or what's up next for you? Or if you want to actually talk a little bit about potential talks and stuff like that, I do believe you're interested in potential being available for those. I'm very available for anything that will help reveal the truth here. My website is www.merderofpalmet.com. That's www.merderofpalmet.com. And also it goes to the same website as www.uladamagart.com. It goes to the same. And there on this website, I've got several books. One of them is the one we're talking about here, the Coup de Tain Slow Motion, or Stats Coup in Slow Motion, because that is what I really think happened. It was a Coup de Tain but made in Slow Motion so that people would not react and understand what was going on. Anyway, that book you can download for free or make a donation, which is extremely appreciated. There's a donation button there. You can also download or on music I made. And also I have several different books. One book is called Shadow of Tears. It's about a bicycle trip I did in 1984. I took an old bicycle from Sweden and went alone from Sweden and all the way down and ended up in Iran during the war, which is how I need a psychiatrist. And anyway, I went into this country where I thought it was just a lot of mad people running around screaming a line, shooting each other. And instead, I met so, so beautiful people. I got some amazing friends. All of them in a very, very difficult situation. Under the Ayatollan, it was some extremely dangerous and trying time for them. One of them got murdered and so I decided to do my utmost and I helped one of them to smuggle them out through former Russia, former Soviet Union, East Germany and then up to Sweden, where he's now today working as a hard specialist. And after that, we managed to get the rest of our friends out as well. And so the book is called Shadow of Tears. It's a true story with lots of photos and so on. You can download that for free as well. Also lots of my music. And there's a kid's book called Yolanda Yogapanda based on the beautiful Yogap principles that Mohat Mahgandy and Ram Matilu to King based there, teaching sound. And also I'm working on a new book called Guilty Victim, which is exactly about this scenario we're talking about in today's program. A follow-up, basically, or is it more of a novel kind of thing? It isn't a novel, but the spot on what we're talking about now, it's just that the names are changed just a little bit. But it's written in a Dan Brown style, so it would be more easy, accessible for normal people because Kuditansk's emotion is like a brick of facts. You really need to be very interested to read it. It just changes. It's just me, I guess, Ula. But I always thought that document-documented material, so-called real-life stuff, is the most exciting things that there are. But people are drawn to novels and made up stories. And again, I'm not saying it's not valuable or anything like that, or that you can learn from it, or as you're doing here, in some cases, it's a veiled story about something that is real, of course. But nonetheless, it's one of the biggest stories. Some of the most exciting stuff in the world is like, it's reality. It's what's going on out there in the world. It's crazy, isn't it? I totally agree. No, but I haven't published it yet. So for me, it's fine to put the real names there. I've written in the beginning of any sort of movie, any similarities. It's a straight-click. No, but I do it the other way around. I say they're totally intended. That's good. That's good. I like that. All right. Well, you're very versatile. I have a lot of stuff, of course, going on, Ula, and there's other subjects, of course, that you cover and stuff like that as well. So I hope we can also, as we wrap up this series, we can always have you back, and there's much more of this kind of stuff to discuss. But in the meantime, of course, before we carry on with the second hour here, then we'll relay further to the website, murderofpullima.com. Check out the book, Cuditain Slow Motion, and do make it to nation two, Ula, if you appreciate the work that you've heard about here during this series, of course. So do that. Yeah, sure. Go ahead, Ula. No, I also want to say that I'm very open to, if anyone wants to get for talks or seminars, whatever, or radio interviews, I've done quite a few of those now. Anything, just please contact me and I'm very open to do whatever it takes. Very good. Thanks, Ula. Stay with us and we'll be right back with more. Don't miss the second hour as we wrap up the series and get the exciting ending with also the closing thoughts and the bigger picture analysis from Ula Damagot. Redisecrations.com is our website. Tons of shows available for free. No commercial interruptions and when you're ready to hear more, you can subscribe at redisembers.com to hear the rest of the story. Thank you so much for listening for your interest and for all the kind emails on the support of our productions and the other projects that we currently have in the works. Harry Hubbard is next on Redis Ready on the Mystery of the Illinois Caves and the story of how a powerful patrol make dynasty and their strange artifacts from the Mediterranean ended up in Marion County in Illinois. After that, we'll discuss the Boston bombings and get a geopolitical analysis from Peter Henningson from 21st century wire.com. Thank you, my friends. We'll be right back with Ula. Don't miss it.