Russianvids Interviews Movie Director Producer Joe Frantz Regarding Flat Earth & Moon Landing Hoax

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In the video I made a few days ago regarding the flat earth discovery in the movie Tau de Ming Hacks that was released back in 2009. I was contacted by the producer Joe Fronc himself and we had an exchange basically it was an improv to interview over Skype and it wasn't just regarding the flat earth topic it's also talked about the fake moon landings the hoax moon landings as well. I'm sure many will have their own preconceived notions about Joe Froncensee basically done work through the mainstream outlets mainstream media such as MTV National Geographic History Channel Animal Plan Discovery Sony 3Net True TV Spike Destination America and so forth so again a lot of people are going to have their preconceived notion on what he's all about but definitely do not judge a book by its cover he has a lot of interesting things to say and for a lot of true thinkers it's going to be a very interesting listen. I first heard about Russian vids from his videos on YouTube I'm always very interested in what is commonly referred to as conspiracy theory. I'm a type of person I'm into all kinds of stuff and I'm not a big mainstream media guy so I get I get a lot of it if my information from the internet from alternative news sources so that's that's one of the that's the first thing that turned me on to Russian vids and lo and behold I saw that he had made a video about me one day about this movie that I had produced called Minghags which was directed by Bam Marjara and starred a lot of the guys from the CKY slash Jackass crew and the video snippet that he had drawn attention to depicting was a scene that we had done for the film called Minghags and it took place in a classroom and the scene featured me playing the part of a teacher as a you know as a little cameo role which are fun to do and with uh marked the bagger from the Howard Stern show and from the Bloodhound gang and Jimmy Pop-All-E fame and all that stuff and so this was an independent film and it was financed out of Bam Marjara's own pocket and it was all shot on super 16 millimeter film and it was very expensive and we're always looking for ways to offset costs so we went around to all the local colleges and we asked them if we could film the scene in one of their classrooms so that we didn't have to make some fake looking classroom film said in one of our friends houses or something like that as I said it was an independent film low budget but still very expensive when it's coming out of your friends pocket so we went to one of the schools who were willing to let us film there and they were excited because it was an independent film and all this stuff and we scouted a location and it looked perfect and out of the parking lot there were two gentlemen very well spoken you know moderately dressed you know suit jackets that kind of a thing and they were asking us what we were filming because they saw some of the camera equipment and all that stuff and we described to them what we were filming and they said well how much does it cost the film is seen like this and I said I you know it costs about $1,200 to you know covering the cost of the film and the actors and the extras and all that stuff is a relatively very small scene and I first thought they were the faculty of the college so I was on my best behavior trying not to downplay I was trying to downplay the fact that you know this is a silly film as you put it in your video it's kind of for knuckleheads and I didn't take that as an insult because look at what Jack asked and the various phenomena are we're all a bunch of knuckleheads that's what it's it's fun you know and so one of the guys said well what would you say if we paid for your data to film here and I said so you're going to give us $1,200 you know which I really appreciated but I didn't know what they wanted in return maybe they wanted I had thought maybe they wanted their kid to have a little cameo in the scene or something like that and they said and I said well what do you want in return for the money because nothing in the world is free and they said well we want to help you art direct the room so automatically I think okay the guy has a wife who maybe wants to be an art director or designer and she wants to come make some little touches on the room so I said okay you had a deal you know and being in show business I've had larger offers for a lot stranger things than $1,200 for someone who'd be able to art direct the room so we came in to film I couldn't I'm looking around the room I'm like well there's nothing different about this room I said what did you what did you do and they pointed to the blackboard they said we just made some diagrams on the black board just make sure that shows up in one of your shots and that's really all there was to and and to for your listeners the diagram was a picture of the earth as it appears on the United Nations flag next to a square now at the time on YouTube and stuff there was no flat earth theory to to speak of no one was really talking about it and I had never heard of course I've in history class and science class we always heard that people used to believe that earth was flat but looking at that the rounds earth on that I didn't think that I didn't know that there was the flat earth theory right that wasn't a thing back then so I didn't think anything of it until I saw your video and I recalled the strange story of how that image came to be um and I don't you know a lot of people might look at that scene and say oh van margera's and you know and touch with the aluminum and all that stuff and it's it was nothing anything like that but it was very strange as to how these guys were willing to give us $1,200 which was our cost of film the scene to have that image on the film. Mm-hmm fun and very interesting you know like I mentioned the video where it says science 101 and what is depicted you know looks exactly like the flat earth model so it's just and then I connected all with the other movies like Back to the Future, I robot, you know catwoman it's you know you see a pattern there so you know if you're what you're I believe what you're saying is you're saying this is basically coincidence when your situation what is depicted on the chalkboard that's nothing to do with the film. Well I've never seen these guys before that time and I never saw them since okay and I don't know how they knew we were there but I will say this why why would someone pay you $1,200 to have that image in a film right and they knew the nature of the film because I told him what the scene was so maybe there's maybe there's something to this yeah I don't I never thought about it till I saw your video and then I thought of that very strange story who would pay someone that kind of money to have this image in a movie that they knew would uh go out to you know a demographic of people who don't really think about that type of imagery maybe they intended to be some kind of subliminal message I don't know it's it is very strange so bottom line is when it would all comes down to is you had no no part of that whatsoever it's just you know these people they you know it was out of your hands and it was presented by people and you just filmed it as is without background because the thing that really gets me it's not just a flat earth model it's you have the the square there as well and you know side by side it's very elaborate how the chalkboard is you know you have the square and you know it's really well done it's not like it was you know some work was put into it you know it wasn't just you know on a whim or something you know so it was definitely planned in for this presentation for sure and what what is the significance of the square in relation to the flat earth theory well the whole thing is it's biblical where there's you know in the bible it states basically there's you know four corners of the earth you know like like in pro wrestling this like man or gorilla monsoon would say the squared circle so the concept of the flat earth where you know how the sun revolves around the flat earth and you're going to make a an ice ring basically with a circular motion of the sun and you know the sun that that circular you know the circle of the flat earth is within the within the square of the four corners that's that's a biblical reference I see what it what it comes down to now I will say this this is very interesting now let's let's let's really get into this um I don't necessarily I don't believe the earth is flat I don't believe it's round I haven't I've seen not enough evidence for either one however what makes the flat earth theory extremely interesting is um I've been up in I don't hundreds of airplane and I have never seen the curvature of the earth now um and I've been over mountains I've been over deserts I've been over rainforests I've been over oceans I've never seen it I've always expected one day to go high enough to see it curvature I never have so some people say well I've seen it in pictures but you have to understand the way a lens works yeah as if you use a wide angle lens it will distort reality and there will be a curvature for example if you've used a GoPro and you've seen what you shoot through a GoPro lens everything looks curved yeah fish are lens yeah fish are lives there's a lot of people don't understand so but I'm gonna lay something on you and if you're listening to this and again I'm gonna I can't stress this enough I don't believe there are this flat I don't believe it's round I I'm ambivalent either way but here's what's interesting okay so if you're listening to this we you have seen you have been to the ocean and you have seen a sailboat and here's how you know the earth is round you've seen a sailboat go out to the horizon and slowly the sailboat sinks and the bottom disappears from view and slowly the sail sinks down over the horizon so you can no longer see it and that's your proof the earth is round now I'm going to tell you if you've seen this if you've seen that with your own eyes you are brainwash because you haven't seen it now I want you to think about this look you have to understand the horizon is 26 miles away okay you cannot see for 26 miles you might be able to see a mile away you might be able to see two miles away there's no way you're going to see an object especially a sailboat 26 miles away now why do you think you've seen that I want you to go to Google and I want you to bring up Google images and and Russian vids you can add these images to this audio as you like it might be very helpful for reviewers okay but the images you'll see are diagrams of the sailboat going over the edge of the earth and then and it's slowly disappears now you've seen this image in so many science books and in so many science documentaries you think you've seen it but you haven't so there's proof that anyone can be brainwash in the most liminal ways so I think that is very interesting now the question is why would people lie about the earth being around when it is flat I made a video where these people are out in the ocean and they had a an econ P900 digital camera and you saw you could see the sun looking like it's beyond the horizon you only see basically what is it half of the of the sun because it looks like it's around the so-called baller but they zoom in with this with this P900 digital camera and all the sudden what do you see as they zoom in you see the full sun but completely above the horizon it's all about perspective just like when you're looking at telephone poles when you're looking down the street where they're all the same height but the one furthest away looks like the legs are missing but it's not it's just about perspective okay so yeah and that that is a very interesting point I mean optically when you zoom in with a lens or a digital zoom you know you get a whole new perspective and you're right it is all about perspective but there is another theory about why people would lie about the earth being around okay so let's let's take the current map of the earth of the continents that we know about and there are already maps that have been explored now you take those and which is a flat map and you wrap it around a globe so now anyone would feel confined to the globe and now the the idea that there's any other land now goes away because it's a way to hide other land now the theory goes and again I don't necessarily believe this is true but it is extremely interesting the theory goes that if you no longer confine yourself to a globe where there is a limited amount of land and you keep traveling in all directions there's more land now there the theory goes that there is out of the range of the sun there is a lot of ice which collectively becomes Antarctica right and but if you get beyond the ice there are other suns and there are other moons and there are other land masses and the land is infinite it keeps going there are more trees there are more resources there is more coal there is more gold there are more animals why would this be hidden from us well if people realize there's other land to be settled they would go there and they would no longer be under the tight fists of a global government now that is very interesting again I don't believe it's true or not true but it is very interesting to entertain I forget the fellow's name who did the the Antarctic expeditions he said that he found trees I'm over sorry Joe that's I'm over a bird yes I'm over yeah and his interviews are extremely interesting he says the amount of resources that he found just in Antarctica were incredible and if you could find a way to sustain life and get through the cold you could live there of course he never made it too far too far into the Antarctic but the theory goes that if you get beyond all that ice there's other suns and there's other life sustaining systems and and other other land masses which could sustain life and I think that's very interesting to think about even if from just a science fiction perspective so that said let's talk about one other thing which I find very interesting okay so we've all heard people expound on the theories as to why it's impossible to get men on the moon and even more impossible to get them off the moon and return them to safety to the earth we've had people pick apart the videos for of the lunar landings for example the slow motion technique that's used if you speed the video up 50% they are now in the physical realm of of earth it looks exactly the same as someone jumping around on earth now again I know there's gravitational differences but but here's what's interesting if you look at the gravity if the gravity is less on the moon why do they move slower wouldn't they wouldn't you be able to move faster because your muscles are 50% more more effective towards the low gravity yes that that that's okay but that's not needed here nor there because I don't know there are physical properties on other planets and stuff which are immeasurable I get that but here's something that I'm going to tell you is a video guy here's why I believe that the lunar landing was faked because there is no way you can have a power source that's strong at that time in history and there's no way you can use no we could transmit that video signal all the way to earth absolutely 100% not let me tell you something I have just on if I have a handheld video camera and I want and let's say I'm shooting a scene and the producer wants to see what I'm shooting so they have a transmitter in their hand and they have a battery on my camera the battery that I have is about the size of a brick it's more square but it's about the same mass as a brick and it only lasts for maybe an hour and a half and that signal only goes a couple hundred feet now you're going to tell me that on that teeny little spaceship with that teeny little camera they're going to have enough power to transmit a full color video signal all the way down to earth and I can also tell you this that the when they promised a full color video signal the the station the broadcasted the lunar landing they were pissed because they were getting raw video feed what they were getting was called a kinneoscope and for those of you don't know what that is that was an editing process used up until the late 1990s and I've actually I've actually seen the kinneoscope technology and utilized it when I worked in a film lab and it's very interesting basically it's an editing tool so you have a screen basically it's a television screen and you shoot that with a film camera so now it's on 16 millimeter film so what they did with those videos in theory why you see a black and white image of the lunar landing although they claimed the full color videos exist was they what NASA says they did was transmitted the full color video signal filmed it on a kinneoscope black and white on 16 millimeter film and then released that to the networks so therefore it was not a live event because to get film processed it takes hours and it takes it's it's a whole process that it generally takes about six hours to complete even with the most efficient film laboratories so why would they get this crappy grainy black and white film image when they could have broadcasted color at which at the time the networks were pissed that they didn't have the ability to do that NASA denied them but anyway that's needed to hear no there the goals kinneoscope thing that's a side note my thing is there's no way there is no way with that technology and with batteries being as big and as weak and as heavy as they were you could have broadcast that signal from the moon impossible good info good info one thing I want to mention Joe is before discussing the moon when I believe what the whole moon hoax was about getting back to what you're saying about Amaral bird and exploring beyond the ice ring having been up in hundreds of airplanes trips and never seen the curvature of the Earth and knowing that with the diagrams that we've been told with the the sailboat going over the horizon these images that we think we've seen this proof you know everyone is seen a distorted image taken with a bubble lens where we can see the curvature of the Earth knowing that I have never seen this and the sailboat going over the horizon where the bottom of the boat disappears followed by the sail knowing that that's 26 miles away and physically impossible to see it makes me fascinated by the fact that there is no evidence that I can tell that the Earth is indeed round and I don't just count it it's round but I don't discount it's flat um that's there's no evidence I'm sorry Joe there's no evidence besides what would they tell us in the indoctrination centers throughout this you know not only this country the world there's no evidence just like there's no evidence we're supposedly spinning well you're sitting in your chair right now we're supposedly spinning a lot the equator actually at 1100 miles an hour while traveling supposedly through space orbiting around the sun at nearly 70,000 miles an hour we don't feel it we don't sense it give us a reason to believe what they tell us well the theory is that since centrifugal force we're all moving at the same speed that's why when we jump you know the Earth uh in the round Earth theory the Earth is moving essentially a mile a second so when we jump we should land a mile away but since the theory is that we are all glued to the same centrifugal force so we when we jump we are spinning at the same rotation which those laws of physics also apply when you're high in the air in an airplane which doesn't make sense I'll tell you I'll tell you other things that don't really make sense that people blindly believe is black hole theory no one's ever seen a black hole yeah no there's no proof that any of them exist um and of course the black hole is how you get the big bang so uh the theory is that uh the lack of matter becomes so nothingness becomes so dense that it explodes and matter is created through the denseness of nothingness that's essentially what a black hole is yeah which makes notes how do you take how is there nothing that becomes something out of denseness of nothingness you know you don't want to interrupt you there Joe you know I don't know if you see my video with the quotes from William Shatner he's said it several times he was asked was the derpter between science and science fiction he says they're both the same how do you balance science with science fiction they're both the same the the mystery of science fiction is what I'm talking about science and science fiction are essentially the same thank you very much you know he talked about having this conversation with michu uh michu kaku and telling them they had debate about they had a debate about this because how do you know all this stuff he goes oh it's in my hand that's what he said that michu uh kaku told them but but taking one step back I'm sorry to denierle this but real quick when you talk about the how the atmosphere supposedly moves with the earth as it spins but what about satellites they're supposedly in the vacuum of space how are they moving along with the so-called ball earth as it's traveling at nearly 70 000 miles an hour and we'll get back to your point about the black holes I just want to ask you what your thoughts on that no no no I I agreed that 100% and I'll give you something else um one time I was on Mt. Fuji and I was filming something there for some sports commercial I won't get into but we end up in Japan on Mt. Fuji and it's not like it is in any other place in the world because you see you know shooting stars meteors coming into the earth and bursting into flames once they enter the atmosphere you see one of those about every seven seconds okay so with the the number of meteors that big that we can actually see popping or all these small little pebbles floating around in space why are the satellites never hit why are that why are the space shuttles and anyone ordering their earth and any kind of spacecraft why are they never hit by a tiny little pebble back there's there's millions of these things entering our atmosphere and even more millions around us why are they never hit that's very interesting well you know I find it interesting you mentioned the space shuttles I've made many videos on space shuttles being nothing more than airplanes it's nothing more than a production where basically you have a rocket launch I keep chronicle and basically these rockets just go into the ocean and we never see you know these so called you know these these space shuttles actually physically going into space always say they tell us oh it's going around the so-called ball earth but no one ever sees it no one ever records the so-called space shuttles going into space all we see is from the vantage point from Florida by getting back to the whole point of how it's all basically like a Hollywood production then you out of nowhere say weeks later or months later you see the space shuttle coming back to earth and all you see is basically the space shuttle coming in for landing just like an airplane and they have the chaser planes coming in alongside and that's to cover the fact that they have jet engines because supposedly these space shuttles disperse all their fuel on takeoff they have no jet fuel whatsoever so they're coming in supposedly after dropping like a rock out of space they come in for a landing it's on a spinning ball so it's completely ridiculous well if you think that's crazy I want anyone to after you're done listening to this go and look at NASA's videos that they put out in the 1980s of people cruising around on those space shuttles and everything with their their hair sprays with this hair spray trying to make it look like it's no gravity and their hair is flying around it is so bad I have that I have that's like they took the worst stylist in the world sprays you know put hair spray all in their hair and tried to stick it up it just it looks so bad the production quality is and they tried so hard to make it look legitimate but it's entirely unbelievable that today's standards with how sophisticated the viewing audiences are let me tell you something Joe real quick it's funny you mentioned that sorry to catch you off but I actually uploaded a video recently where they're doing this you know supposed you know interview with someone someone on earth a newscaster and he says you guys really in space you know it looks too clear it's a hoax and then this there's a female talking exactly what you just mentioned about the hair up and it's completely you can tell she's using aquanet or whatever hairspray they have and she's pointing at her hair and it's completely ridiculous and then the guy doesn't spend proving he's supposed to out her space and the guy next to him tugs on it looks like a wire and they're basically just what I believe they're upside down and they got harnesses but I'm sorry to cut you off of that. I just want to mention that that I actually just mentioned that I actually covered just a couple days ago in a previous video. Yeah I mean it's laughable what is you know try to pass off as and you know what's so great now about YouTube and about these video platforms is you know back in the day you got one shot to see this stuff on television and that was it. I mean you believed it was true you saw it once maybe you saw it on a rerun maybe on that on the other news channel they would rerun some of this footage but now it's all been released and people have the ability to look at it and to pick it apart and to really think about it you know like we talked earlier about the the lunar landing well you know now the people have the technology at their fingertips on their laptops to be able to speed up the lunar landing footage of you know you have the land rover going around and you have the guys hopping around in slow motion speed that up 200% and it looks like they went out in the desert and film you know and even the little things where the shadows okay so in in filmmaking we have what's known as three point lighting you have three light sources illuminating the object there are three shadows on those objects on the moon you have three shadows going in three different directions the only way you get that is if you have three light sources it's not I've heard I've heard other filmmakers trying to both this say well it's it's really an optical illusion and reflections off of objects on the moon I said you know what have you ever filmed something with one light source and got three shadows and they shut the hell off because they know I'm right you can get three shadows from one light source it's impossible yeah man that gonna well those probably just say oh there's mirrors on the moon there's that's the only of course obviously they don't but yeah that's a great point one thing I mentioned real quick question is what's your theory on you you mentioned earlier something about you you had a theory on them about why you would fake a lunar landing what now now you know I can think of a point where you know the Russians in 1957 October 4th had Sputnik and they had a satellite we had to outdo them by putting a man on the moon I get that as as a motivation as to why we would accelerate our space program and even go to the lengths of faking a lunar landing to outdo the Russians but what is your theory my theory is it's all about the ball earth it wasn't about going to the moon it was about getting a full supposed image of the ball earth it's a subconscious type of program it's just like when you watch any type of documentary on TV history channel when they show for example when you had a one of these construction workers going up the the the the trade tower and you see the so-called horizon all curved from the fish islands camera so while you're watching a documentary you're subconsciously being programmed by this false curve creating the false reality so again getting back to these so-called ball earth in all these years we only have two supposed photos in all these years going back to Paul 17 back it was in 1973 and then back in 2015 with another supposed image or photo supposed photo of the ball earth and it just so happened to have sex on it when you flip over the so-called ball earth there's these the sex symbolism like I say they're called the Illumina tea for a reason they're illuminated and they're naughty and by the way just for reference I talk about my on my channel about the occult of 33 the highest degree in the scotter trade of free masonry it just so happens the the record for a by astronauts to be on the moon supposedly walking on the moon is 33 hours so you have always have the occultic numbers associated associated with all these all these hoaxes and saps such as you know hoax shootings and what not just like a twin towers the construction of twin towers started 1968 they came down in 2001 exactly 33 years the same year 1968 was the same year that the 9-11 calling system universal calling system wouldn't play in the Hayley'sville Alabama so it's all about the occult with everything just like okay no wait wait here's here's here's what I need to know okay so I can appreciate the the symbolism through numbers yeah well one thing I hate is I forget the guy's name but he puts out these videos where all he does is the numbers it gets so poor yeah but here's what I want to know yeah if um if these quote conspiracies are encoded with these numbers what is the point why would people purposely throw in these uh the numbers you know the 33 yeah like what is why would they do this well let me say this now I'm glad you asked you're talking about Zachary K. Hubbard and he goes overboard like he he thinks that every single freaking playing on a football field is scripting every every single player isn't the no and he goes overboard see he's making the numbers look ridiculous and I believe he's an agent and he's there's truth in the numbers but he bridged the point where it's completely ridiculous there are numbers you got your you're 33's you're 44 in your 777 just like for example a CNN they're located on the 30th or peril the supposed and you'll full crash of Roswell was you know it's on the 30th or peril so you have all these numbers associated with so many events just like Bill Clinton changes from Bill Blythe to get Clinton to get 33 just like I made a video just today about Sirhan Sirhan who's supposed to assassinate Robert Kennedy Sirhan is 33 so you get your dual 33's in Robert 33 so it's Kennedy so you know it's it's there are the 33's but which when people like Zach make videos and I'll tell you right now Zach is really good with the numbers but he goes way too far and he just basically discredits himself when he he's called you know he he goes way too far with it and just it makes it seem ridiculous with all these numbers he's putting together it's like he's pulling him out of thin air but there or you're you are you are gonna have your numbers in there but it's when you go overboard with it when I make videos I'll cover the numbers but I'll show video footage to go along to prove my point when it comes to say a shooting hoax or a siam but I'm not gonna just sit there for half an hour just throw numbers at you and oh this guy's birthday was on this day and it connects with with you know with this day it's just it's just it's just a bunch of a bunch of rubbish let's say but let's say these illuminati this global apparatus of illuminati is I don't know thinking events or whatever why would they purposefully put in numbers like 33 into like a parallel where an event took place or 33 minutes on the moon what what is their purpose for that it's their it's basically their signature this is this is our like after a painter is done painting his is portrait or picture I should say he's going to put his little signature on it and that's like it's like a it's like a director like Alfred Hitchcock having a cameo in his film is what yes it's exactly okay so so I just want to get something clear um did we talked about a little bit earlier we got off track was when you uh talk about people's motivation for baking a moon landing um again one of the theories is that we want to do out do the Russians um another reason is that uh that I've heard is that we wanted uh the United States wanted to be able to tax our citizens a little bit more for NASA in order to kind of loan their money for our government etc etc I don't know what their the motivation would have been if the lunar landings were a hoax but you say that it is it was an underhanded way just to um facilitate this image of the ball earth so in other words a magician will do the trick in one hand while waving the other hand in front of your face so in other words we what what you're saying is our motivation for fake moon landing was under the guise of beating the Russians to the moon but really what we wanted to do was say that's what the earth looks like from the moon you see it's around in a subliminal way is that what you were saying absolutely and also it needs to be understood as well as Russia in the US the whole cold war was a fake beef these are all mace of the world's a stage and all these governments are one working together and you know okay so you know what else is really interesting too is that you know for a hundred years we have learned that there are nine planets right and we have uh they left it to us to believe this wholeheartedly because scientists have told us there are nine planets now a couple years back I think three years ago or so they tell us by the way there's no planet Pluto what do you mean there's no planet Pluto I thought you said there was a planet Pluto they say well we were never really sure what it was well what are you saying is it a block of ice what about it doesn't qualify as a planet is it a mass of gases no they no it's not a mass of gas well is it a block of ice well no it's not necessarily a block of ice well what was it that you must stick for a planet we're not really sure it could be nothing but what what wait a minute so there is nothing that you must look for a planet that that really shook me up to the fact that the scientists that we are supposed to put all of our trust in faith and don't have any idea what the hell they're talking about how what about nothingness qualified as a planet we're not sure what it is you're not sure what what is what was it that you must look for a planet we're not sure it could be nothing what it doesn't make any sense that's why I don't put a lot of stock in what is presented to us as scientific truth again with the black hole theory you know that there's a black hole because you can do a math problem that's it that's your evidence some guy sat and did a math problem and because of the numbers we know there's black holes yeah even though no one's ever seen one even though there's not evidence that one ever existed that doesn't make sense you know that's why I don't again hold a lot of stock in the blind acceptance of what is presented to us as truth science is religion when it comes down to you know not questioning science just you know that's what they say so it must be true just like like I said earlier with William Shatter saying science and science fiction they're the same you know and this is the mockery where someone you know like Gene Roddenberry was amazed and you know William Shatter being in Hollywood for the longest time talking about you know it's it's mockery saying someone that you know it's part of this show where you go into different planets different worlds is saying science and science fiction are all the same you know it's it's they're going to give you truth when it comes to these entertainers but the scientists are going to lie to you so no one's going to take an actor you know like for all like all these entertainers come out saying that earth is flat it's true but no one's going to take them seriously George Carlin tell them absolute truth about the the rigged system but who's gonna believe because you know he's just a comedian so it's the world of opposites me of you I said it in a million times he gave you truth in movies and lies in the news and that's what all comes down to okay so you have an atheist right your atheist will laugh at let's say a Christian or a Jewish guy or Muslim and your atheist will challenge the the religions by saying you believe that there's an old man in the sky with a magic wand and a beard and he controls the universe and uh he controls life and controls destiny you're so primitive well yet the same guy will blindly will blindly believe a scientist just because uh he uh has submitted his intelligence to being inferior to that of a scientist and what is a scientist well okay so someone who's religious whether you're Jewish or your Christian or your Muslim you essentially believe that God created the world in the universe right but what do you believe if you're an atheist and you've submitted to science what you believe is that in the beginning there was nothing which is what religions believe in the beginning there was nothing and then God if you're religious you believe that God created something out of nothing well if you're an atheist you believe that a black hole created something out of nothing like if you're if you're a scientist but an atheist you literally believe that in the beginning there was nothing because matter doesn't come from nothing right matter must have a um some kind of measurable beginning so your theory is that the nothingness became so dense in the form of a black hole that it blew up and became matter that's what you believe you believe that nothingness becomes so dense that it becomes matter and atoms what what that doesn't make any sense that makes less sense than that there was a god that turned uh that created matter from nothing but that actually makes less sense so it's what I take away from all this from our conversation is that I think people should be less submissive and and you know approach science with more questions than beliefs you know let's scrap this idea that these guys are smart they have the college degrees they know what they're talking about I must agree with whatever they say or I will look like a fool well yeah maybe you look like less of a fool if you begin questioning of what we are led to believe is truth and in the end maybe you might learn nothing but maybe you might come out of it with a little bit more inquisitive mind which might help you in everyday life critical thinking yeah you critical thinking and and that's a very valuable skill in dealing with things like your occupation and your job or or how you approach your work day and your relationships um in all aspects of life critical thinking is so important and I think it's it's an exercise of the mind that people um don't take advantage of on a daily basis well said very well said and you know one thing I want to mention too when it comes to the school textbooks these teachers must teach directly from the school textbooks if they grew up or not you know and have any of these teachers that teach that we live on a baller they've never been in space supposedly been in space and seeing the baller they're just going along with the program they know what they they know their job their job is to you know to teach out of the textbook when it comes to the churches which gets a little more complex where they don't teach directly out of the Bible they're gonna skip through pages give stories and they don't tell the biblical truth like where it states in Jeremiah 10 about the Christmas tree is being forbidden you know do not cut the tree from the from the force and line it with silver and gold where the churches do they teach their you know the congregation to do that so you have the world of opposites in this mockery where people go to church and they're deceived and you people have people that go to school and they're deceived as well and I talk about this in my videos as well when you when you were the graduation cap you're wearing basically a mason's mortar you know and it's basically all symbolizes how they're shaping informant your mind and you see a lot of celebrities such as say Bill Cosby and Ben Affleck and the list goes on and on you see the photos and they don't wear the flat mortar hat that's for the indoctrinated masses they wear the round and hats you'll see that with Oprah Winfrey and Bono and the list goes on and on it's for it's for the masses you know you're it's basically you graduate it's basically stating you have been indoctrinated into our system of lies and you're now now your job is to get a job after you get in debt with school to get a job and then buy that house with the white picket fence you know get married and you know you just live your slave life working nine of five like Al Bundy or one of these people you see on TV that you go related that's why people love watching Al Bundy marry the children because they can relate to him you know so that's so that's the the role we live in this this is basically a slave world run by those that are pulling the string from behind the scenes that's what all comes down to well that was that was very poignant and yeah I agree and I think that you know whether whether you're an atheist whether you're religious whether you believe in a flat earth or a ball earth whether you believe man has been in a spacer or or not um you know again critical thinking that's what I take away from all this is you know you have to be your own person and you're never going to reach your foolish your your fullest intellectual potential by pointing at a religious figure and saying this person knows everything by pointing at a scientist and say this person knows everything no one knows everything we all have a lot to learn and please keep an open mind absolutely I agree 100% and one thing I want to mention too is again when it comes to the churches specifically the televanja list is you'll see all the Masonic hand signs just like all the politicians that's why the churches are tax exempt they're basically you know this is this is what I would I really want to mention with all these events happening around the world these televangers don't speak upon them so again that's how they control you know the people that watch the mainstream media people that attend churches this is how they control the entire matrix well said and uh Russian vids it was a pleasure to talk to you and um you know I appreciate um the the the the heart that you put into your work I can tell that you're driven by passion and that I can very much appreciate thanks so I appreciate and you know some people might say you know some these are a stretch but when you the further you go down the path of truth the more you're gonna see you know some crazy to people when it comes down to it's like this and I'm gonna summon up very briefly it's like 9-11 what you figure out 9-11 was not worth told in other events I'm not gonna get those events but other events are not worth told then people watch say for example other events on TV but they believe them because they can't the human mind can't say well everything can't be fake that's their that's their initial reaction so you know they they can't go they can't go there because it's too insane too crazy but we live in a crazy world and I played that the lyrics from that song from Madonna when she from that one song called American Life when she says you know I'm living out the American dream I just realized that nothing is as it seems and it's very true again I talk about truth and entertainment lies in the news and that's that's this world that's free-matery the world of offices the world of duality